Finance Committee
Regular MeetingGahanna, OH · November 16, 2020
Minutes
200 South Hamilton Road
City of Gahanna Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Minutes
Finance Committee
Michael Schnetzer, Chair
Karen Angelou
Merisa Bowers
Brian Larick
Jamie Leeseberg
Nancy McGregor
Stephen Renner
April Beggerow, MPA, CMC, Clerk of Council
Monday, November 16, 2020 Virtual Meeting
*Immediately Following Regular Council Meeting*
Meeting Call-in Details:
513-306-4583
Conference ID: 409 866 616#
A. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Schnetzer called the Finance Committee Meeting to order at 8:01
p.m. All members were in attendance.
B. DISCUSSIONS
1. 2021 Budget Appropriations
ORD-098-2020 AN ORDINANCE TO MAKE APPROPRIATIONS FOR CURRENT
EXPENSES AND OTHER EXPENDITURES OF THE CITY OF
GAHANNA, OHIO DURING THE FISCAL YEAR 2021.
Mr. Schnetzer stated that we will try to stay to 1 hour. Resuming with the
questions that were started the previous week.
BWT #8 (p. 135) -
• As a priority 3 project, please describe the strategic importance to the
Gahanna community of
constructing BWT #8 in 2022, particularly vis-à-vis the city-wide trails
master plan and be prepared to
discuss the cost of the master plan.
Mrs. Ferrell: in regards to trail section eight, it has introduced some
unique challenges to overcome specifically an available alignment that
crosses over I-270 in a cost effective way. Service and Engineering has
identified an opportunity to pair this project, along with ODOTs Plan to
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rebuild the Hamilton Bridge over I-270. This opportunity is time-sensitive
and will no longer be a viable option if ODOT commences without the
design plan incorporating the Big Walnut trail. So it's either we go now, or
it's no longer an option for us to to move forward with that alignment.
Mr. Larick: So there's a an opportunity to coordinate with the other
project, and historically, and I forget percentages, but the my recollection
is the vast majority of our trail sections have been completed, along with
grant funding that has covered a significant portion of those sections.
This being, on a cost per foot basis, quite possibly the most expensive
section, where do we sit with grant funding pursuits, likelihood, can you
draw some of that picture as well?
Mrs. Ferrell So this project is clearly a great project for grant funding. And
we will go after Clean Ohio Trail Find- is one specifically and there's a
maximum of seventy 75% of the total project cost. The recreational trail
program is also an award that we'll go after, which is 80% of the total
project cost. We do need the alignment before we move forward with
those those grant requests. And the projects have to be completed within
15 months of application. So therefore we need to make sure that we
have the funding in place prior to submitting for those.
Mr. Larick: The the longer term costs, not the engineering for next year,
but the actual build. Is that a complete section or is that the bridge
component.
Mrs. Ferrell: That's the complete section.
Mr. Larick: And do we have any opportunity to split that if we run into
challenges from a great perspective?
Mrs. Ferrell referred this question to Mr. Moorehead.
Mr. Moorehead: to the question of the funding splits between the ODOT
portion and the portion that may be outside of ODOT's project. We are
aligning this with a reconstruction of the Hamilton Road bridge deck over
270. So from ODOT's side, there's a larger structural element to this
project that they're attempting to put forward. So some of those design
costs, some of those construction costs will be part of that project.
Mr. Larick: to be clear, that's in the context of the three million dollar
estimate. In other words, three million would be the grand total. That's
everything. And these are means of reducing that cost to the city.
Mr. Moorehead: The means to reduce the cost to city correct would be for
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the portion of the trail that runs outside of the ODOT bridge project. That
brings it back to its current termination now over by the Nazarene Church
and then down towards Tech Center Drive. And those are the
opportunities that we're going to try to seek grant funding for
independently from the city through ODOT once we have a concept study
prepared for how this might fit onto their bridge deck. We're going to
begin working with them to see if they have an opportunity as the lead
agency on that project to leverage the inclusion of a pedestrian element
to seek some funding on their side.
Mr. Larick: Ok, I have another question, if I may. The termination of this
section actually in both the north and south, termination of the of the big
walnut trail, is there any information, I tried to dig through the various
Metro Park Trail plans and really couldn't identify the information. I was
looking around any kind of timing perspective from the parties involved
outside of the city of Gahanna for the further connectivity of both the north
terminus and the south terminus of our sections of the trail.
Mrs. Ferrell: Ok, I have another question, if I may. The termination of this
section actually in both the north and south, termination of the of the big
walnut trail, is there any information, I tried to dig through the various
Metro Park Trail plans and really couldn't identify the information. I was
looking around any kind of timing perspective from the parties involved
outside of the city of Gahanna for the further connectivity of both the north
terminus and the south terminus of our sections of the trail.
Mr. Larick: Ok, and what about the north going into Columbus.
Mrs. Ferrell: The north, I do not have details with we do have Red
Westall, he is the I don't know his formal title, but he ultimately works in
trails specifically, he is working with us as well on this project. But I don't
have a timeline for that northern section either.
Mr. Larick asked for more information.
Mr. Leeseberg: In my understanding we wouldn't be constructing a
separate bridge, we would be piggyback onto the ODOT reconstruction.
So we'd have a bike lane bike lane on Hamilton Road.
Mr. Moorehead: It would be a separate bike trail on the bridge deck. So
the lane itself, the design that is being explored, would put it on the bridge
deck behind the barrier. So it'd be off to the most western side of the
bridge deck and elevated a bit above the travel lanes.
Mr. Larick asked crossing Hamilton where?
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Mr. Moorehead: At this point we're exploring, bringing the trail through the
wooded area that abuts the Big Walnut Creek and 270 on the north end
and coming under possibly the slip ramp that goes to 270 from Hamilton
Road going northbound, coming up to the bridge there, then crossing
over at a signalized crossing of the other slip ramp and off ramp if you're
coming to Hamilton from 270, at which point you would go back down
into the the Wonderland area and ride along an existing roadway that's
through there before ultimately coming to Tech Center Drive. So currently
we are we're evaluating the geometry of that as it relates to the bridge to
come up with the most, safest solution that also coincides with the bridge
reconstruction project ODOT's working on.
Mr. Leeseberg: In a previous life I had looked at ODOT revising those
ramps and everything else to actually provide access to the Crescent
property as another way out rather than everything coming out of Tech
Center. I would, I guess, that asked to explore that the simplest and
easiest way, or the example is, Cleveland Avenue, when they reworked
Cleveland Avenue, those on ramps and things like that. Anyway, to kind
of clean that up and actually give Crescent another way, the Crescent
property, another way out onto Hamilton Road so it doesn't have to come
out at Tech Center. But anyway, I looked at that and at the time there was
no desire or ability to to rework that the, I believe it was, north northbound
Hamilton on to 270 ramp there. And so that right of away would be where
you'd have to rework that. While we're working that bridge, see if the folks
at Crescent might be interested and if ODOT would entertain it. That
would help them out immensely.
• Does the $75,000 expenditure in 2021 commit the City to the $3.25
million expenditure in 2022?
• No offsetting revenue is shown. Are there any grants associated with
this project?
Splash Pad (p. 136) -
Mr. Crawford: Yes it would. The seventy five thousand is to fund the
design of the improvements. Once we start moving forward with the
design, it will be included in the project and ODOT's bid. So it's likely not
possible that that could change once we are down the road of design.
Mrs. Angelou: I would ask did anybody check with MORPC in terms of
grants from attributable funding, etc., I know it's attributable funding kind
of goes off a little.... We need more more time to be able to have that. But
there's also the potential, if you go in there grants thing that there may be
other ones that might be there for that would help with the cost.
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• How does this project fit into a master plan for SW floodplain area /
Vet’s Memorial Park?
Price Road House (p. 137) -
Mrs. Ferrell: Only concept plans exist for the Southwest flood plain or the
Vets Memorial Park. But we do know that the pools do exist within that
future plan. And the pools have needed updates and improvements for
for quite some time. And residents have expressed interest and a splash
pad and including one at GSP, which would be the location where the
splash pad would go, including a splash right into the GSP footprint and
we'll add an updated amenity that will sustain overall improvements to the
pool as well as the property surrounding it. So it definitely fits within the
overall project of the Vets Memorial Park, as well as added those
amenities within the pool that we exist now. So it fit together very nicely.
Mrs. Mcgregor: I have a question using the splash pad would require a
membership to the Gahanna swimming pool. Is that correct?
Mrs. Ferrell: Not necessarily. So what the plan would be is that we would
actually have a fencing around the splash pad. We would ultimately have
the splash pad open longer than the pool season. So therefore, you
would not have to have a membership. I will say once the pool is open for
the season, then you would have to have a membership in order to enjoy
the splash pad. So to ultimately be able to, it's a little bit of both. You
would be able to enjoy it as a as Gahanna resident outside of the pool
season, within a pool season, it's added to your membership.
Mrs. Ferrell (on the topic of the Price Road house): The lack of indoor
space for the Parks Recreation Department has has been indicated as
an ongoing obstacle. The Price Road house, of course, would not be the
sole solution to that barrier, but it does provide a sustainable resource to
increasing programmable space to the community. So the Price Road
house would be home to actually some existing programs which we
currently pay facility fees on and also be for new multigenerational
programming. The space could also be used as added rental space for
community gatherings and meetings as well.
Ms. Bowers: Thank you, would you share with us a little bit about the
square footage. It's exciting to hear about the Price Road house. Could
you just briefly explain about the square footage on that?
Mrs. Ferrell: So I don't have the square footage at the top of my head. I'd
be happy to get that information to you. Ultimately, the actual bones of the
facility are very well. It's the internal is what will need to be updated and
improved, of course, and it would be transformed into the space that we
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could be used appropriate to programs and again, rental spaces. I'm
happy to follow up on what the on the truth, I don't want to give you wrong
information. I'll give you the actual true total value.
Mr. Larick: You mentioned the facility fees that we pay for some of the
activities that we provide. Can you elaborate on that a little bit?
Mrs. Ferrell: For example, we do use school facilities for some programs.
We do use we pay to use that space.
Mr. Larick: Anything else besides schools?
Mrs. Ferrell: Schools are the biggest location that meet the space
requirements for the programs that we exist. We do a lot of outdoor
programming, which, of course, we use our park spaces for.
• What is the planned use of the property after renovations?
Water Tower Rehabilitation (p. 148) -
• Please confirm rate shown of $0.33/gallon is correct.
Mr. Crawford clarified that it is $0.33 per 1000 gallons. It is incorrect in
the CNA.
Taylor and Claycraft Intersection Design, Hamilton Road Bridge Design
(p. 37) -
Mr. Crawford: The intersection currently functions at a level of service E. If
you've traveled this intersection, you've likely experienced some very long
delays. Nearby businesses have repeatedly expressed frustration with
the current functionality of the intersection. The improvement would
increase the level of service to an A, thereby reducing delays and
congestion while also promoting economic development. A number of
business businesses have also shared with us that they're planning to
expand, and this would ensure that they can keep their operations within
the city and not have to continue with the frustration of that intersection.
• Please be prepared to discuss the strategic importance of these two
projects.
West Gahanna Sanitary Sewer Analysis - Phase 2 (p.150 )
Mr. Crawford: The result will identify what exactly caused the infiltration
and inflow earlier this year, as well as identify any necessary
improvements, it could include improvements to our sanitary sewer
mains, as well as pinpoint necessary private improvements, such as
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removing interconnections with sump pumps, downspout lines and
potentially leaky private lateral lines. It is an estimate for the entire study
area, SSES Phase 1, but we may not need to do the entire study area
based on the results of phase one. Phase one, sanitary sewer evaluation
is still active. Flow monitors and rain gauges are installed and connected
online. With that instrumentation in place, we are prepared to document
the sewers response to the wet weather events of this fall and soon
coming winter. We've also received over seven hundred eighty nine
mailed responses to the survey and numerous other online responses.
I'm not sure if you listed the last bullet point, but the total estimated cost
for phase one was roughly three hundred thousand.
Mr. Leeseberg: So am I hearing you right that there's another one point
two five million in analysis?
Mr. Crawford: Correct. This will pinpoint the exact properties, the exact
lines that are causing this. This will basically result in actionable steps,
whether that's going after certain property owners that have connected
their sump pumps or maybe a sewer improvement project, if we see our
sewer main could use improvement.
Mr. Leeseberg: So we're going to we're going to have spent one point
five million dollars to identify the project or the problems, but not solve a
single one of them.
Mr. Crawford: In a sense, yes, it would be a first step in solving it, though,
with the results of SSES phase two. Let's say we identify 1500 properties
that have connected their sump pumps that are contributing to the
surcharged sewer. That is an actionable item on this immediately as by
code you are not permitted to connect stormwater or rainwater to the
sanitary sewer system.
Mr. Schnetzer: Mr. Crawford, did I hear that the one point two five that's
being requested is that there's a there's potential to not spend all of that.
Mr. Crawford: Correct. The assumption is the entire area that has been
studied in SSES, phase one, there is the potential that it does not include
the entire area. Once phase one has concluded, we will know the entire
study area for phase two. I feel that I should mention as well, it has been
broken up over two years. The original CNA has the 1.25, all in 2021. It is
split between 2021 and 2022. That should be covered somewhere else
in the budget book.
Mr. Larick: Just a quick just a question of scope. What physical area is all
to be evaluated?
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Mr. Crawford: We're calling it western Gahanna. It's not completely the
west side. It's including Gramercy Park as well as College Park, those
areas. So basically, I would say west of Hamilton Road, south of the
Creekside area. And then encompassing the majority of West Side, not
necessarily like the Widmark Run area, they were not impacted by those
two weather events or it's the same level of those two weather events.
Mr. Larick: So west of Hamilton, south of Creek Side.
Mr. Crawford: And then from Royal Manor, Brentwood, College Park,
those large neighborhoods there. And there is a map of this that we'd be
happy to share with you.
Mr. Renner: Thank you. Grant, is is there like a list of all the items that this
one point twenty five? I mean, I'm personally a little surprised by the
estimate, to be honest with you, only because for a frame of reference,
just so you know where I'm coming from, all the areas, the unincorporated
areas that I had to do for an SSES and it was a quite detailed SSES,
was 2.5 million. So I'm trying to understand relative a little bit about the
one point two, five million.
Mr. Crawford: And I guess I would like to know more about the SSES that
you performed. We did perform in SSES back in 2009 nine as a result of
the director's findings and orders from the US EPA. And that was a very
high level, two thousand foot view. The SSES phase two that's proposed
for western Gahanna is the nitty gritty, the, you know, one foot view to
where it's going to include dye testing, smoke testing, blood testing, all
those different aspects of it, home audits to where they are going to go
house by house, street by street, line by line to determine what exactly the
cause is.
Mr. Renner: I understand and please, you know, my feelings on this
analysis needs to be done. I'm just trying to understand, is there who put
together this estimate and is there a list of the activities for that?
Mr. Crawford: So the estimate was generated by Burgess & Niple at our
request. This will be bid out through an RFP or RFQ process so all
parties can bid on this or submit the proposals. So we'll certainly get the
best company to accomplish this. So it could end up being something
different based on how those proposals come in.
Mr. Renner: Yeah, so I heard you say that a little bit ago is so is it really
imperative that you have this now or once you actually get through and
you have something a little bit more refined that you can actually come
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back?
Mr. Crawford: That's a that's a great question. There is always the
opportunity to wait, if that's what we truly want to do. But with what the
residents felt, you know, what happened to them? You know, we felt that
we needed to push this forward. We need to continue moving forward
with this and budget for it so that we can get the quickest response and
ensure that this hopefully never happens to them again. We can't prevent
every storm, but we want to prevent, you know, storms like that from
happening.
Mr. Renner: Yeah. And thank you. So please don't misunderstand. I was
not saying delay the project and delay the analysis. I'm just trying to wrap
my head around the one point two five million dollars. What are we
actually getting? And I am I understand that it's very detailed because
you're looking for probably more than what we did. We didn't look for
rooftops and connected downspouts to the sanitary sewer system. So I
understand that element of this. Maybe looking at a map. And again, if
you have a list of the items that went into the proposal and into actually
the calculus of the estimate, I think that would be helpful if you could just
send out an email.
Mr. Crawford: Yeah, we can. We can definitely tell you high level, you
know, what we would be expecting from that next step. Again, some of
this will be fleshed out once phase one comes back and we expect that
to come back spring of next year. So funding this would allow us to jump
immediately into it in the late spring, early summer and fall months of next
year. I believe, as I mentioned earlier, we are proposing to split this up
over two years. It would be a lot to hammer out that much in one year for
one point twenty five, you know. Yeah, huge SSES. So allowing us to split
up over two years will allow us to be able to do that a little bit more
efficiently and effectively.
Mr. Renner: Right. And I really do get the point that having the funding in
hand allows you to plan to work better. I do understand that, Grant.
Mr. Larick: Grant, just kind of a I guess, a heads up more than anything. I
want to follow up and have some discussion about the physical footprint
of what the assessment area is in context of conversations I've had with
then Ward 3 and certainly east of Hamilton Road, both storm and sewer
issues inside homes and understand whether any of that is currently in
scope or there's not in scope why and what not. But we'll deal with that
outside of this conversation.
Ms. Bowers: since we're doing the assessment over a two year period,
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would there be any potential that remedial work would be able to be
performed after part of the assessment or one area is completed so that
residents are not waiting potentially three years for this fix? If you could
address that.
Mr. Crawford: Certainly even with the results of phase one, it may provide
us some actionable items after this phase one comes out. But having to
split up over two years means there are going to be steps taken in 2021
that again may result and would likely result in some sort of actionable
item. It won't be the full gambit of things until everything is completed. But
I fully suspect that we'll we'll know more and hopefully have some, some
steps that we can take.
Mayor Jadwin: Just to reiterate and actually Grant just touched on, one of
the things I was going to comment on is that it is possible once we as we
start to get this analysis in over the next several months, that there will be
what I call low hanging fruit type of remediation that we are able to do.
And we will certainly look to be able to begin the one point two, five
million that we're discussing. Just I know we've already touched on it, but
just as a reminder, I think that that is the upper cap of what we could be
looking to spend. And it is it is very possible that we will not get anywhere
near that, depending on what the results of this analysis are. But we have
to put that. I would rather put the upper limit in and say set the expectation
for that and not need it versus the reverse. And then also, I believe the
map is going to be sent to very shortly. Carrin Wester has that map. Is it
something that we were using to send out to residents? As Grant
mentioned, we received almost eight hundred survey responses from the
residents that were sent. I think it was like three thousand households
within the actual footprint. So all of them received the map. So we have
that map available and that's being sent. You should have that shortly.
Mrs. Angelou: the 1.250 Is analysis more analysis or will it actually have
some of the actual things happening to resolve what's in the analysis.
Mr. Crawford: I don't believe that there is going to be actual construction,
a part of that, but it will result in the actual actionable items, which is likely
going to be interconnections with sump pumps and downspouts. So
immediately after that, we can or immediately even during it we can go
property probably saying, hey, you know, your sump pump is connected
to the sewer line. You need to run it to your yard and out of the street.
Mrs. Angelou: So there could be 50 percent of what needs to be done
would be at the at the expense of the citizens, because we don't we don't
do with they have their sump pumps on to it's their it's their problem. Or
are we going to be attempting to fix them and charge them.
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Mr. Crawford: I think that's that's a road that we need to, I guess, go
down later on to figure out how we want to address that. If that is the result
of these analysis, if it is a very costly venture for a resident, then maybe
that's something that we do look at. As far as an assessment. Ultimately,
we need to get this information back to better understand where we go
from there. We can make assumptions and guess all day long. But
honestly, I don't know until we get it back.
Mrs. Angelou: And and this 1.250 Is only in the area that had the flooding
in. And April and June was it. That is it, it's only them or is it over the
entire city?
Mr. Crawford: Is not the entire city, it's those that were heavily impacted
by the flooding in March and April. So it's your Gramercy, your
Brentwood, your Royal Mannor, or your College Park neighborhoods
where the sewer mains were confirmed to be surcharged, completely full
at the top, yet flowing as fast as they possibly could.
Mrs. Angelou: And so Burgess & Niple is going to be continuing phase
two, was that what was going to be was that you got him a phase one did
they expect phase two or?
Mr. Crawford: We will be we'll be sending in RFQ or an RFP to all
companies to submit their proposals for doing phase two. So it's not
guaranteed that Burgess & Niple will get phase two, but they would
certainly be in the running if they were interested.
Mrs. Angelou: If phase two is gets finished. And you know, in terms of the
analysis. Who will decide that does the work, the person, the whichever
engineering firm has done the analysis will make sure that the work gets
done or how will that work?
Mr. Crawford: I'm sorry. I'm not exactly sure what you're asking.
Mrs. Angelou: Ok, we're going to have let's say we have purchased in
Burgess & Niple come in and they're the lowest and best whatever. And
they they they take over this analysis and they they they do the planning
for the future of how they're going to do this. So will they be in charge of
that, making sure that the contractor comes in and does that, or is that the
city that will do that?
Mr. Crawford: They will provide us a report of their findings for us to take
and do with what we want to do. So we could get this report and their
findings and we could throw in the shelf and do nothing, or we can take it
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and do something with it and make some change. So if it involves hiring
a contractor to complete the work, we would again seek proposals from
outside firms to potentially help us with that, whether it's the creation, the
design, the inspection or just the administration of it.
Mr. Renner: has this work, and you probably said this before, but has this
work ever been done before in the project area?
Mr. Crawford: Yes, we, we do have some very high level records of this
being completed on the West Side in Royal Manor and Brentwood back
in the 90s. I believe council member McGregor has spoken to this in the
past when her husband was mayor at the time, and the work that they did
over there to remediate some of these issues.
Mr. Renner: so twentyish, twenty five years ago, this similar work was
actually done right? Is that fair to say?
Mr. Crawford: I would say it's similar. We do not have the detailed reports
anymore. What we have is some high level. You know, we worked on,
let's say, 15 houses to connect 15 sump pumps and had this response in
the sewer system. Right. And that's, again, about 30 years ago, I believe.
Mrs. McGregor: I was just going to say the work was done twenty five
years ago. They did have studies, but it was largely where a storm drops
manholes that had sunk below the surface. And so some of those they
raised so that the surface water didn't infiltrate those manholes. And then
I think I've said before, some of them were basements where the
driveway went down and into a garage underneath the house and they
closed up quite a few of those at the city's expense. They closed those up
and redid those. But that was just a part of it. You know, it's kind of like an
onion. You peel back that and then you see what happens. And then
nothing was done for a long time. And so now we have more things to do.
So I'm glad we're addressing those problems.
Mr. Schnetzer: So pretty robust discussion on this particular topic. I don't
know if it makes anybody feel better about the spend. I'll just highlight for
the sake of discussion here that, you know, this is coming out of the
proprietary fund, the sewer capital improvement fund. It's not to minimize
the spend by any means, but it is restricted and intended for these types
of purposes and doesn't necessarily have competing purposes the way
sort of general revenues would. Moving on, page 131 there is there's a
project listed, sanitary sewer system maintenance. And just if you could
comment, what is the expected outcome of the three hundred thousand
dollars spent or ask?
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Mr. Crawford: this capital item is our yearly sanitary sewer cleaning and
inspection and ensures the integrity of our sanitary sewer systems and is
the first step in creating yearly maintenance projects. As well as our
sewer improvement project. We inspect and clean roughly 10 percent of
the city each year utilizing these funds. The project is a part of our
capacity management operations and maintenance manual, otherwise
known as CMOM, that was submitted and approved by the EPA in
response to the director's findings in the orders. Director's findings and
orders for those that may not be aware was a federal EPA initiative to
ensure that sanitary sewer systems are being adequately maintained is
and is an ongoing requirement by the EPA. The result of this item from
the 2019 CCTV program was the generation of the 2020 Sewer
Improvement Project, which will line over one mile worth of pipe and
Royal Mannor in Brentwood.
Mr. Schnetzer: I believe this is the last item under capital maintenance
and improvements on page 97, the public service department list as
priorities, a handful of items such as reducing congestion near US 62 in
West Johnstown Road, a widening of West Johnstown Road. Also, any
estimated cost for these in the 2021 proposed budget for these? And
then what are the goals and objectives of those particular strategic
items?
Mr. Crawford: we did not ask for any funds for these projects. In 2021.
We are currently working to address our biggest fires, which is our
decade's worth of deferred maintenance with what funds we have left
thanks to the pandemic, unfortunately. So we do not have anything in the
budget for 2021 to start on these projects. However, our goal is to
continue to evaluate these three projects and define the next steps for
constructing them and budgeting them in years to come.
Mayor Jadwin: I would just say what we have not specifically asked for in
the 2021 budget, that doesn't mean that we will not be working on this.
So part of the analysis that we have to do is to try to determine can we
separate the West Johnstown Road widening project from the
Agler/Stigler intersection? Do those have to be intertwined? That's going
to involve some conversations with ODOT and some other exploring
some other partnerships that we potentially have to do. So those are
some of the goals and objectives we have for 2021. Those aren't
necessarily going to cost us money to do outside of staff time and
research. So it is on the agenda as a project item. It's just not a financial
spend request for 2021.
General Government
1. Page 33: seems to be some variance with total operation $, is it
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51.7M or 51.5M. From Fund Summary
pages, it appears its $49.44M for operations, $15.3M for capital outlay,
and $2.7M for debt services for
a total of $67.49M. Can you help where we may disagree?
Ms. Bury: that was just a clerical error in the three years. So the
information on page 33 is correct. I was just a classification in the three
year financials that I have provided replacement pages for those.
2. Page 38: what are the $818,845 transfer out for? If that is encumbered
purchase orders, please provide
a list of top 5 expenses.
Ms. Bury: So encumbrances outstanding are reported as a reservation of
fund balance. Transfers in and out are a movement of resources for
specific purposes. In the case of the general fund there's Five hundred
and eighty seven thousand and two hundred dollars that's going to the
debt service fund. So this is to pay the portion of the debt that's not
covered by the property tax revenue that's coming in and can't otherwise
be paid for from other restricted funds. And then the two thirty one six
forty five is a transfer to the leave payout fund for anticipated retirements
or separations.
3. Page 38: How many more years are left to repay GF from Water Fund
for the $266,490 advance for
water bills to Columbus from a faulty meter?
Ms. Bury: It will be fully repaid in 2023.
4. Salaries & Benefits: what is the typical multiplier to salary to
understand value of benefits?
Ms. Bury: when we look at the benefit piece, there's a portion that is a
direct correlation of the salary. So that's the OPERS, Medicare and
worker's comp. For that, we use a 16.95 percent, which is our usually our
go to insurance benefits are a little difficult. First of all, some employees
can decline and it's based on the plan that they choose and the tier of
coverage. So it's not really a basis of how much they're making or their
salary. So they can't really derive an accurate percentage for the
insurance benefits. But we do use the 16.95 Percent
Budget Discussion Continued
to cap the large part, which is the retirement Medicare worker's comp.
5. Economic Development requests $228k in contract services: what
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types of services would this be?
Mayor Jadwin: I'm going to start off with this one, because this budget
actually was formed before Donna was hired, so she can she can pitch in
a little bit on the end. However, the request for this was actually done with
Sharon Patterson, Michael Blackford and myself, based on what the prior
development budgets have been, it is actually less, much less than what
was appropriated and requested back in 2020. In fact, it's even less than
what was appropriated after we did cuts earlier this year for 2020, which
actually scares me a little bit. However, what's included in this right now
are what I would call standard carryovers things that are budgeted every
year in the development department. We we budget for appraisal fees,
both for the sale and purchase of real estate. If we're ever going to do
that, we have to have appraisals done. So there is kind of a set amount
that's budgeted every year for that, legal fees for expertise in fiber as
well as small cell tower that we require very, very centralized, specialized
expertise that we need to have. So some consultation there is included in
that. It also includes Jennifer Syx, who has been working as our
development consultant, continuing her services at a reduced capacity
now that we have Donna on board. However, she has proven to be
invaluable this year in helping us to put some deals together that have
allowed us to really expand jobs and allow for expansion of existing
businesses. So she will continue in that role, which allows us to add to
our staff without adding to salaries and benefits. There's a miscellaneous
vendors provision in there that really is for our office and industrial
rebates that we have a policy and provide for that. And then we also pay
COCIC every year. I believe it's remediation and redevelopment of the
landfill area over off the Claycraft road. And then finally, let Donna speak
to the last thing that's involved in contract services, because I know she
did have input and a hand in that we figured into it.
Dr. Goss: I did want to talk a little bit about the economic development
strategy and refreshing that the current strategy was developed in 2015
and certainly the market conditions that were present at that time have
changed, certainly with COVID and some of the things that we're dealing
with now, some of our small businesses are particularly challenged in
new and interesting ways. So really being able to understand and do a
little bit of maybe more of an in in-depth analysis on those local market
conditions, identify those market gaps and opportunities, and really
refresh the economic development strategy in that way. Another piece of
this is that some of the economic development strategies and the tools
that we have available in our toolbox have changed and we have more
available to us now. For example, council just approved the PACE
financing. So that's something that we can offer now as an economic
development incentive. And we have in our toolbox as a new strategy that
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we can help to entice businesses to come and redevelop and develop in
our community. So that's just one of those. And then I would say to that,
certainly we want to look at new development opportunities to really
understand the sites that we have available, which targeted sites we
would really like to focus on and which of those have a high priority so
that we can really help to promote and sustain economic prosperity in the
community. So those are the reasons why I would like to refresh the
strategy.
6. The CARES expenditures...Please provide an overview of those that
are one year/dedicated
expenditures and those that while qualifying for CARES funds would/will
be ongoing expenditures.
Ms. Bury: all the CARES Act dollars received in 2020 must be used for
2020 items and moving into 2021, we know we're going to have
additional CARES related expenditures, so what I did was I provided the
guidelines that I'm using to determine what we may use those available
funds for, either for reimbursement or for programs. So much for the grant
programs that we ran. I believe each of you should have received those
guidelines to look at. So under the eligibility, are the eligible expenditures
or what we could actually use the grant dollars for that. Some of those
items will continue, like your PPE, your sanitation, putting up barriers,
items like that, depending on what may or may not be available, again,
there's been no promise for any additional funding moving into 2021. My
assumption is that the guidelines will pretty much be the same. If
anything, they may add a little bit more flexibility rather than take away.
And also wanted to kind of put out there that depending on what type of
Care's act funding you've received, the requirements are different. So all
of us that receive the state funding through HB 41 and 614 all have the
same guidelines. Those that have received dollars directly have a
different set of guidelines. And those that have received money from
those who have received the money directly have different guidelines. So
it's it's not a it's not your typical straightforward. If you receive this money,
this is what you could use it for. Everybody has their specific set of
requirements that they're looking at. So hopefully between the guidelines I
sent and knowing that this is just a 2020 for what we have right now and
there's been no promise for 2021, that's kind of where we're at.
Mayor Jadwin followed up that the square footage of the Price Road
house is 2,360. Not including the garage and screened in area above
the garage.
Meeting adjourned at 9:00 p.m.
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Agenda
200 South Hamilton Road
City of Gahanna Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Agenda
Finance Committee
Michael Schnetzer, Chair
Karen Angelou
Merisa Bowers
Brian Larick
Jamie Leeseberg
Nancy McGregor
Stephen Renner
April Beggerow, MPA, CMC, Clerk of Council
Monday, November 16, 2020 Virtual Meeting
*Immediately Following Regular Council Meeting*
Meeting Call-in Details:
513-306-4583
Conference ID: 409 866 616#
A. CALL TO ORDER
B. DISCUSSIONS
1. 2021 Budget Appropriations
ORD-098-2020 AN ORDINANCE TO MAKE APPROPRIATIONS FOR CURRENT
EXPENSES AND OTHER EXPENDITURES OF THE CITY OF
GAHANNA, OHIO DURING THE FISCAL YEAR 2021.
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