Planning Commission
Regular MeetingGahanna, OH · October 23, 2013
Minutes
City of Gahanna
200 South Hamilton Road
Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Minutes
Wednesday, October 23, 2013
7:00 PM
City Hall
Planning Commission
GAHANNA’S VISION is…
… to be an innovative model community that values its rich heritage, pursues high standards and promotes
respect among its citizens.
GAHANNA’S MISSION is…
… to ensure an exceptional quality of life by providing comprehensive services, financial stability, and
well-planned development which preserves the natural environment, in order that city government will continue
Donald R. Shepherd, Chair
David K. Andrews, Vice Chair
Jennifer Tisone Price
Kristin E. Rosan
Thomas J. Wester
Joe Keehner
Bobbie Burba
Donna L. Jernigan, MMC, Sr. Deputy Clerk of Council
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A. CALL MEETING TO ORDER/PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
SWEARING IN OF NEWLY APPOINTED PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER
ELIZABETH A. (BOBBIE) BURBA.
Assistant City Attorney, Thomas L. Weber, gave the oath of office to
Burba. Everyone welcomed Burba to the Planning Commission.
Gahanna Planning Commission met in Regular Session in the Council
Chambers of City Hall, 200 South Hamilton Road, Gahanna, Ohio on
Wednesday October 23, 2013. Vice Chair David Andrews called the
meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. with the Pledge of allegiance led by
Commission Member Price. Agenda for this meeting was published on
October 18, 2013.
ROLL CALL:
Present 7 - Donald R. Shepherd, David K. Andrews, Kristin E. Rosan, Joe Keehner,
Thomas J. Wester, Jennifer Tisone Price, and Bobbie Burba
B. ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA.
C. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - Regular Meeting October 9, 2013.
A motion was made by Shepherd, seconded by Rosan, that the
minutes of the October 9, 2013 meeting be approved. ROLL CALL:
Voting yes: Shepherd, Rosan, Wester, Keehner, Burba, Price,
Andrews.
D. HEARING OF VISITORS - ITEMS NOT ON AGENDA - None.
E. APPLICATIONS/PUBLIC HEARINGS:
Andrews read the rules that will govern tonight's public hearings. Tom Weber,
Assistant City Attorney, gave an oath to all persons wishing to address the
Commission tonight. Two people came in after the oath was given and Weber
administered the oath to them before they spoke.
CU-0005-2013 To consider a Conditional Use application to allow outdoor sale of
seasonal floral merchandise; for property located at 1365 Stoneridge
Lane; The Kroger Co., Lindsey Taylor, applicant.
Gard said this is for outdoor sales and storage of seasonal
merchandise; has been on the books for quite some time; after the
Kroger remodel there was an issue with the fire suppression sprinkler
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system, and that went on for a long time; has now been inspected and
approved so we can proceed with this application; their previous
conditional use for outdoor sales expired in December of 2012.
Chair called the public hearing to order at 7:07 p.m.
Jordan Horan, representing Kroger, said we are asking that you
approve the conditional use for our outdoor seasonal merchandise; it
did take a while to get the suppression system approved but it is fine
now; had some issues with the contractor; asking for a conditional use
to extend through December 2015 for our outdoor sales and storage;
we are asking for your approval.
Chair asked for opponents; there were none. Chair asked for
questions from the Commission and there were none.
Chair closed the public hearing at 7:10 p.m.
A motion was made by Price, seconded by Rosan, to approve CU-0005-2013 for
the Kroger store at 1365 Stoneridge Lane to run through December 31, 2015.
The motion carried by the following vote:
Yes: 7- Shepherd, Andrews, Rosan, Keehner, Wester, Price and Burba
FDP-0008-201 To consider a Final Development Plan for Creekside District
3 Apartments; for property located at 152 Mill Street; Strathmore
Development Company, Andy Johnson, applicant.
Chair said we will consider FDP-0008-2013, V-0016-2013,
FPU-0002-2013 and DR-0027-2013 together.
Gard said the location of the building is where the car wash is at 152
Mill Street in Olde Gahanna; showed relation to North Street, Mill
Street and the alley that would be behind the project; not a lot of
vegetation can be saved; will have new landscaping; here are pictures
of the site from different side perspectives; showed existing structure;
showed footprint for the garage structure which is below grade, not
underground; showed site plan for the apartments; there will be a
plaza in the front with trees and planters which is mirrored on the east
side with a smaller plaza; will be 32 units; showed floor plan and
elevations; 1st floor plan is on the right and the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th floor
plans on the left; they are proposing 4 entrances; 2 on the north side
and two on the south side; showed relationship with Creekside
building A across the street; showed some projects not in Gahanna,
but similar in nature to the proposed project; proposed apartments
would have a very modern look; small portion of the site is actually in
the 100 year flood plain so that is why there is a flood plain use permit;
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variances are numerous and necessary to the project to go forward;
FDP states that there will be 32 units on the site and one of the
variances is for parking; they will not have the 2 spaces per unit as is
required by code; the certificate of appropriateness indicates the
exterior finish will be brick and corrugated metal siding; there will be 21
trees installed and shrubs.
Chair opened the public hearing at 7:17 p.m., and called for
proponents.
Ron Calhoun, Strathmore Development, 81 Mill Street, said what we
have before you this evening is basically taking the existing car wash
site and creating some density; have had great success with the
Creekside project and we are finishing that up with 95 residential units;
these units would be larger in terms of average; think this fits for an
urban infill project; will be happy to answer any questions.
Chair asked for proponents.
Douglas Dachenbach, 159 N. High Street, said I own property at 159
N. High and 73 North Street immediately east of the car wash; I
bought the properties in 1976; parking has always been a major
problem through the entire area; we are all still suffering from that; had
to put up 2 hour parking limit signs for businesses on High Street; that
is a great concern to me; realistically an upscale multiple family
development will have multiple cars per unit; if you drive down the
alley by the car wash it is very narrow; will have to relocate electrical;
there is a sewer line that runs down the center of the down alley; that
will become an access problem if you are allowed to go that close up
to the property line; the south side and the east side are really close to
existing structures, and that could be a problem for the fire
department; concerned on the south side if there is a fire and getting
to the 3rd and 4th floors with a ladder truck could have a building
collapse; why put our firemen at risk for this facility; concerned about
the historic church building on High Street, and you can't touch that; I
was looking at the 2002 Olde Gahanna study, and this doesn't really
match into that study; feel we would be asking for problems, and we
don't need this; this is not appropriate at this time.
Commission member Shepherd left at 7:24 p.m.
Calhoun said I think the two major points that were made was one
about the fire department access, and I believe you received a letter in
your packet from the fire department that we reviewed the project with
them and they have no objections; in terms of the historic church close
by in case of fire, this will be a fully sprinklered building, and the fire
department prides themselves on very few people dyeing in a fully
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sprinklered building; in regard to parking I think our ratio is about 1.7
versus a 2 and that certainly fits in the urban land institute parking
criteria that we are seeing nationwide as more people work from home
and use public transportation; is market driven and more appropriate
for the use.
Rosan said I have serious concerns about the density; the 4 stories
and the number of units per acre; the fact that nearly the entire parcel
with limited exception will be covered by a 4 story building with the
exception of the building across the street; it is not similar to anything
else surrounding it; my question is did you give any kind of
consideration to something that is slightly smaller; 3 story; a little more
green space; not requiring all the variances; I am wondering if not so
massive a project would reduce the variances and perhaps make it fit
in a little better; could still be urban, but fit in a little better with all the
buildings.
Calhoun said we did look at that in terms of lesser units, but it takes a
certain amount of density to support a project; I also believe that as
we worked with staff on the various variances that the variances are
really set up in terms of the way the zoning is for a greenfield multi
family project and not an urban infill project; so when you see an
urban project the variances to lot lines and so forth, lot coverage, you
typically don't have those in an urban fill project which this is; I don't
think it is fair to count the number of variances with this. Gard said
there is actually a glitch in the code that requires X standards for multi
family, but then you turn the page and for site planning it gives you a
whole different set of standards, so that is something we are going to
have to reconcile, but since there were both in the code both sections
were addressed by the necessary variances. Calhoun said I believe
under the site planning standards we needed very few if any
variances. Gard said the multi family standards became the hang up.
Rosan said so what I am understanding is that the developer would
not consider a less dense project, and Calhoun said that is correct.
After question from Wester, Calhoun said the proposed building is not
as tall or as close to the right of way as the Creekside Plaza project; is
about 20% less in height. Wester said the first floor at 100' that is still
about 10' above pavement line. Calhoun said that is probably about
right since we are doing the parking underneath where we are out in
front basically creating a brownfield type look entrance; we are hiding
that the first floor is up; there is a difference of grade on the eastside;
did not want people driving down the alley and looking straight in at
someone's dinner table. Wester said you have a right of way line
shown; you show a 5' parking setback but somewhere I thought I read
that there is less than 5' from the right of way line; is that from City
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right of way. Calhoun said that is correct and I believe that is because
the parking structure foundation is out to that so it is really the parking
slid out underneath there thus being the need for the variance.
Wester said what keeps the right of way from sliding underneath there
during construction. Calhoun said the foundation. Wester asked the
foundation of what. Calhoun said there is a good slope there; the
below grade foundation is going to be 5' below the alley and that wall
will be a structural component. Wester said but during construction
what keeps that alley where it is now; are you going to sheet pile it; are
you going to tear the alley up and then replace it? Calhoun said it
would not be our intent to tear the alley out; my suspicion is that we
will end up with some type of shoring in order to keep it stable and
safe.
Keehner asked where the images for the building came from; does not
look like anything in the Olde Gahanna Vision Plan; said renderings
are problematic; question using 4 stories especially since the 4 stories
are going to be flat; most of the images in the OGVP show pitched
roofs; maybe if you came with 2 story apartments on the 3rd and 4th
floors where it was pitched and the scale was different that might
work; style is a little bit generic so I wonder where you came up with
that; looks more like Grandview than Olde Gahanna; detailing is more
like art deco; building it in Olde Gahanna would be questionable; don't
know if it would contribute to the sense of place of Olde Gahanna
visually; would be fine across from Clark Commons, but not here; also
how is having an 8' wall along the sidewalk creating a pedestrian
friendly neighborhood.
Calhoun said I will try and answer all of your questions; the purpose of
having the step planters there is so we do not have to have an 8' wall;
we are trying to step it back; this project is not as tall as the Creekside
Plaza; as an infill project we wanted to create a contemporary project;
we, along with OHM, did not want every building to look the same
down Mill Street; that was our objective. Andy Johnson, OHM, said
we did go for a different look; wanted some variety; wanted to appeal
to young urban professionals.
There was question about retail on the 1st floor. Calhoun said we
have been involved in the Creekside Plaza project for about 1 1/2
years and it is gaining a lot of traction and momentum, but the piece
that is lagging behind is the street front retail in building A , so until that
is filled there is not the demand; the residential is going faster than we
can supply units.
Wester asked if a traffic study had been performed; what will these 32
units do to the traffic in the morning; has that been studied.
Wetherholt said we do not know at this point, and Wester said we
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need this information.
Andrews said we do want to take this to workshop; I agree also that
this in no way is like anything in the OGVP; I realize that the OGVP is
not set in stone; I am intrigued by the design but wonder if it would not
look outdated in 15 to 20 years.
Rosan said it appears on one of the drawings, at least from the north
elevation, that on the east side of the building the end of the balconies
are 1 or 2' from the right of way, and that is the alley Dr. Dachenbach
talked about being really concerned about apparatus being able to get
to and through that alley; I would be interested to go back to the fire
department and see if they have additional comments or they stand by
their original comments; whether they fully appreciated how close that
alley is; are closing in on that alley and with the density have a great
concern; also concerned about stormwater discharge and the
applicant addressing the comments of the Urban Conservationist; also
the police comments about video surveillance in the surrounding
parking areas; like to see all of this addressed a workshop.
Chair closed the public hearing at 7:52 p.m.
It was agreed that the applications would be heard in workshop at 6:30
p.m. on November 13th.
A motion was made by Rosan, seconded by Price, that this Final Development
Plan be Postponed to Date Certain to the Planning Commission, due back on
11/20/2013. The motion carried by the following vote:
Yes: 7- Shepherd, Andrews, Rosan, Keehner, Wester, Price and Burba
V-0016-2013 To consider a Variance Application to vary the following sections :
1163.02(a) to allow fewer than 2 parking spaces per unit; 1150.10(a)(1)
to allow a building setback of less than 15’ for the eastern façade;
1150.10(b)(1)(2) to allow below grade parking and allow it to be
located less than 5’ from right-of-way; and 1150.08(e)(1)(2)(3)(5)(6)(7);
to vary the development standards for a multi-family use project; for
Creekside District Apartments; for property located at 152 Mill Street;
Strathmore Development Company, Andy Johnson, applicant.
A motion was made by Rosan, seconded by Price, that this Variance be
Postponed to Date Certain to the Planning Commission, due back on
11/13/2013. The motion carried by the following vote:
Yes: 7- Shepherd, Andrews, Rosan, Keehner, Wester, Price and Burba
DR-0027-2013 To consider a Certificate of Appropriateness for Site Plan and Building
Design for Creekside District Apartments; for property located at 152
Mill Street; Strathmore Development, Andy Johnson, applicant.
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This Design Review was Postponed to Date Certain to the Planning
Commission due back on 11/20/2013.
Yes: 7- Shepherd, Andrews, Rosan, Keehner, Wester, Price and Burba
FPU-0002-201 To consider a Final Development Plan for Creekside District
3 Apartments; for property located at 152 Mill Street; Strathmore
Development Company, Andy Johnson, applicant.
This Flood Plain Use Permit was Postponed to Date Certain to the Planning
Commission due back on 11/20/2013.
Yes: 7- Shepherd, Andrews, Rosan, Keehner, Wester, Price and Burba
F. UNFINISHED BUSINESS - None.
G. NEW BUSINESS - None.
H. OFFICIAL REPORTS:
City Attorney - None.
City Engineer - None.
Department of Development - None.
Chair - None.
Andrews welcomed Burba to the Commission.
I. CORRESPONDENCE AND ACTIONS.
J. POLL MEMBERS FOR COMMENT.
Keehner said I went to the opening of the one room school house; has
been a community effort; a Gahanna teacher started the whole
process; had community support in financing; is a strong indication of
the spirit of Gahanna and sense of community.
K.. ADJOURNMENT - 7:58 p.m.; Motion by Wester.
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Isobel L. Sherwood, MMC
Clerk of Council
APPROVED by the Planning Commission, this
day of 2013.
Donald R. Shepherd
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Agenda
City of Gahanna
200 South Hamilton Road
Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Agenda
Wednesday, October 23, 2013
7:00 PM
City Hall
Planning Commission
GAHANNA’S VISION is…
… to be an innovative model community that values its rich heritage, pursues high standards and promotes
respect among its citizens.
GAHANNA’S MISSION is…
… to ensure an exceptional quality of life by providing comprehensive services, financial stability, and
well-planned development which preserves the natural environment, in order that city government will continue
to be responsive, accessible and accountable to our diverse and growing community of citizens.
Donald R. Shepherd, Chair
David K. Andrews, Vice Chair
Jennifer Tisone Price
Kristin E. Rosan
Thomas J. Wester
Joe Keehner
Donna L. Jernigan, MMC, Sr. Deputy Clerk of Council
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A. CALL MEETING TO ORDER/PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE/ROLL CALL.
B. ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA.
C. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - Regular Meeting October 9, 2013.
D. HEARING OF VISITORS - ITEMS NOT ON AGENDA.
E. APPLICATIONS/PUBLIC HEARINGS:
CU-0005-2013 To consider a Conditional Use application to allow outdoor sale of
seasonal floral merchandise; for property located at 1365 Stoneridge
Lane; The Kroger Co., Lindsey Taylor, applicant.
FDP-0008-2013 To consider a Final Development Plan for Creekside District Apartments;
for property located at 152 Mill Street; Strathmore Development
Company, Andy Johnson, applicant.
V-0016-2013 To consider a Variance Application to vary the following sections :
1163.02(a) to allow fewer than 2 parking spaces per unit; 1150.10(a)(1)
to allow a building setback of less than 15’ for the eastern façade;
1150.10(b)(1)(2) to allow below grade parking and allow it to be located
less than 5’ from right-of-way; and 1150.08(e)(1)(2)(3)(5)(6)(7); to vary
the development standards for a multi-family use project; for Creekside
District Apartments; for property located at 152 Mill Street; Strathmore
Development Company, Andy Johnson, applicant.
DR-0027-2013 To consider a Certificate of Appropriateness for Site Plan and Building
Design for Creekside District Apartments; for property located at 152 Mill
Street; Strathmore Development, Andy Johnson, applicant.
FPU-0002-2013 To consider a Flood Plain Use permit for Creekside District Apartments;
for property located at 152 Mill Street; Strathmore Development
Company, Andy Johnson, applicant.
F. UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
G. NEW BUSINESS:
H. OFFICIAL REPORTS:
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City Attorney.
City Engineer.
Department of Development.
Chair.
I. CORRESPONDENCE AND ACTIONS.
J. POLL MEMBERS FOR COMMENT.
K.. ADJOURNMENT.
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