Records Commission
Regular MeetingGahanna, OH · September 15, 2010
Minutes
City of Gahanna
200 South Hamilton Road
Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Minutes - Final
Wednesday, September 15, 2010
8:50 AM
City Hall
Records Commission
GAHANNA’S VISION is…
… to be an innovative model community that values its rich heritage, pursues high standards and promotes
respect among its citizens.
GAHANNA’S MISSION is…
… to ensure an exceptional quality of life by providing comprehensive services, financial stability, and
well-planned development which preserves the natural environment, in order that city government will continue
to be responsive, accessible and accountable to our diverse and growing community of citizens.
All meetings and meeting agendas are subject to last minute changes. Please contact the Clerk’s Office at
614-342-4090 to confirm the date and time of this meeting or to request any special accommodations.
Records Commission Meeting Minutes - Final September 15, 2010
A. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
The meeting was called to order at 8:50a.m. by Weber.
Additional Attendees: Thomas L. Weber; Rebecca W. Stinchcomb; Sharon
Montgomery; Lt.
Present: 2 - Isobel L. Sherwood MMC and Laura Dachenbach
B. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Sherwood moved to approve the minutes of the July 28, 2010, meeting. Weber
seconded and the motion carried. Montgomery noted that in the discussion of the
records copy fee for police reports provided on CDs and DVDs, Mumma had recalled
a previous discussion about police report costs and charges. Montgomery clarified
that the previous discussion had been about increasing the flat rate for paper copies
in accordance with the provision in the state budget bill.
C. ITEMS FOR APPROVAL
D. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION
1. Data Security
Montgomery said she had nothing to add to the written update in the meeting packets
on encrypting data on storage media that leave the building and on the intent to
discuss hard drive storage on photocopiers and fax machines with the new
Information Technology Director and the copier vendor . There were no questions or
discussion about the written update.
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2. Records Request Fee Schedule
Montgomery explained that the schedule members received was for review and
included columns with currently-approved charges, newly-calculated actual costs,
and her recommendation for revisions based on the new calculations.
She reminded everyone that the decision had been made in the past to charge for
each copy rather than starting at a set number of copies or a set price. She said she
is still concerned that our policy and practice are out of sync. Because of the
bookkeeping paperwork involved and the need to make change, not all city offices
charge according to the schedule. She said she is again recommending we start our
charges at $1.00.
Montgomery pointed out that one major change was the cost of our zoning code,
which we extract from our full code book. She said we'd been charging $25. She
counted the pages, checked the cost of the binder we use, and added in the map
charge and found $8 to be closer to actual costs. Sherwood suggested charging $10
because the number of pages and the cost of the binder will vary as code changes
are incorporated.
Montgomery said the other major change was for police reports provided on CDs or
DVDs. She said the police department has been charging $5 based on the costs we
are allowed to include in the provisions for bulk data requests. She said the public
records law is not clear on charges. The only definition of “actual costs” is in ORC
149.43(F) about state Bureau of Motor Vehicles requests and charges . However,
cities are advised, even in the records training by state officials, to use that definition,
in (F)(2)(a).
She said she had asked Weber if we could apply 149.43(F)(2)(b) & (F)(2)(d) about
“bulk commercial special extractions” for police reports since we apply (F)(2)(a)
beyond the BMV. She said Weber said we probably could but when she asked him ,
she had forgotten about OAG 99-012 saying that the actual cost part could be
broadly applied but the bulk extractions part could not be.
Weber said we are not bound by Attorney General Opinions but they are a source of
guidance.
Lt. Spence said their most common records request is for offense reports, particularly
crash reports. When the request pertains to the report on one specific incident, or to
one specific 9-1-1 call, that data can be e-mailed to the requester and there is no
charge. But, the most common requester is a “data miner” such as a lawyer,
insurance company, chiropractor, etc. who is looking for multiple reports that might
yield clients.
Lt Spence said finding and providing these reports is very time-consuming and the
department pays for the licensing and software needed to transfer the data from the
recording system to a CD or DVD. For these reasons, the police have been charging
$5 and recommend this charge be approved on this revision of the fee schedule.
Stinchcomb asked if other cities are applying 149.43(F) to police reports. Spence
said Hilliard has a monthly access fee for the online service they provide. Braun
asked how the online reports provider, Reports USA, differs from the module that is
part of what will be the city's new Web site. Spence said there is no difference in the
way they work. Braun clarified that the city has already bought this module so it will
be functional when our Web site is redesigned.
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Spence added that the in-cruiser recordings have video and metadata that requires
proprietary information to understand.
Sherwood concluded that we can't break out a per-copy cost so $5 was a reasonable
flat rate. Spence added that $10 would be a reasonable rate for a monthly access
fee for Internet access when it is available. Sherwood reminded everyone that
having to recalculate our fees every three years doesn't limit us to three-year review
and recommended we review this again when the new Web site is in place and the
Internet access will become available. Dachenbach said the Municipal Court has a
computer terminal in the court lobby for access to online court records.
Montgomery said since 149.43(F)(2) applies to bulk requests, should we differentiate
between bulk requests and individual requests? Stinchcomb said we shouldn't
discriminate among requesters and Montgomery clarified that she meant
differentiating among requests for bulk and single records. Spence clarified that the
bulk requesters aren't asking for all reports, only the ones that might yield clients.
Sherwood moved to approve the revised schedule as recommended by Montgomery
with zoning code and police report recommendations as discussed. Stinchcomb
seconded and the motion carried.
Lt. Spence said he also wanted to discuss the retention for audio recordings. Their
system will record three years plus five days' data from the 9-1-1 calls, the
administrative phone line in the radio room, and some of the other phone extensions
in the police building. He said the retention had been 31 days for those recordings.
The video surveillance system is about to be upgraded. He recommended one year
retention for both of these kinds of recordings.
Montgomery reminded everyone that citizens generally have two years to sue us.
Minors have two years after they turn 18 and she has read in one place that the limit
is seven years for fatal crashes. For this reason, she generally recommends three
years for any records we might need to defend ourselves in a lawsuit.
Spence said three years of this data would require a large amount of electronic
storage space even in the condensed form they store it in, and this would be
expensive. Stinchcomb was concerned about storing, for instance, video
surveillance of the lobby during times no one was in the lobby. Spence said the new
system will let them analyze what to keep.
Spence added that specific portions of the recording can be held longer by offloading
it from the recording system's storage to separate storage. Montgomery compared
this to the Parks & Recreation Dept.'s process to file liability waivers in youth
registrations with incident reports so all the other waivers can be disposed of sooner,
with the rest of the registration records.
Weber pointed out that the burden for requesting a hold on records no longer falls
solely on the city; attorneys need to know the retention periods and request holds.
Consensus was that this should be presented at the next Records Commission
meeting in the form of a retention schedule.
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3. Red Flag Rules
Montgomery pointed out that the background for these rules was provided in packets
and explained that she wanted clarification on applying the city's procedures. She
said when she got a June records request for a water bill account, she reviewed the
approved procedures and the updates that were based on Weber 's opinions on
specific applications. Based on her interpretation of the updated procedures, she
redacted account number, account holder name, billing address, and service
address. She said in this case, the billed amount was so large that the requester
would have little or no reason to doubt we have provided bills for the account in
question but that for a private residence, for instance, the requester wouldn't have
that assurance.
She said that despite the fact that in general we are to disclose liberally, she decided
in this case to err on the side of caution, reasoning that she could disclose more if
she erred, but couldn't take back anything disclosed that shouldn't have been.
Franey said the policy says account numbers are to be redacted and the opinions
said names and addresses should not be provided. She said she feels the spirit of
the Red Flag Rules is to protect the combination of information that could be
misused. She said an account number, or a name, or an address in isolation is not
an ID theft risk but when any two of those pieces of information are together, there is
a risk.
Dachenbach and Weber pointed out that with some information , a citizen can get
related information from other public sources; we can't prevent that.
There was agreement with Stinchcomb's assertion that the address is the only
information the requester needs to be sure we have provided the account in question.
And, there was agreement with Franey's recommendation to specify in the annual
review of the policy that the account number and account holder's name but not the
service address be redacted on bills we provide for public records requests. If the
billing address is different from the service address, the billing address would be
redacted.
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4. E-Communication Management
ARCHIVING UPDATE
McCorkle participated by speaker phone and gave an update on the e-mail archiving
process. He said three products have been demonstrated and three more will be.
They are looking first at the technical details then will look more at the records
searching features.
He said archiving will automatically offload messages that arrive in users' inboxes
and will record those messages in separate storage, within 10 minutes of the time
they are received in an inbox. Stinchcomb asked if non-record messages such as
unsolicited sales pitches would be excluded. McCorkle said a tight spam filter will be
used but there is no way to avoid offloading everything that gets through the filter.
Stinchcomb asked if the archived storage will compress the data. McCorkle said it
would and also would conserve space by copying only once any messages that
arrived in more than one inbox as the same message.
FORMER EMPLOYEES' STORED E-MAIL
Discussion was based on a written explanation of the situation that was provided in
packets. That explanation included the fact that we have more than seven years'
messages from employees who have left city employment and while our current
software can read them, they are too voluminous to read and sort by content. That
explanation also offered possible options for disposal.
McCorkle tried to participate in the discussion but phone reception from the meeting
room was too poor so answered specific questions then hung up with the agreement
we would call him back if needed. Braun asked which employee's messages went
back the farthest and he said former Service Director Terry Jordan was the longest .
McCorkle suggested one option could be to import the old messages into the
archiving system so they would be retained and disposed of with current employees'
messages.
Discussion centered on the likelihood of any messages being needed after a few
years.
Montgomery explained that it was unusual to get a request for any records back more
than a few years except for internal research requests, to understand previous
actions and the decision-making process that led to those actions. Consensus was
that adding them to the archival storage was more time- and labor-intensive than
warranted.
Weber said a rational retention schedule has to consider likelihood ; we can't
anticipate and cover every possibility. Stinchcomb pointed out that any important
business conducted or referenced in old messages is very likely to be reflected in
other records which are kept longer. Consensus was that these messages did not
need to be stored more than three years after that employee separated from city
employment.
SPARK INSTANT MESSAGING
Braun reminded everyone that when IM was first provided by a previous IT Director,
we were told it could not be saved so was not a public-record by the definition of
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“fixed medium.” Then our most recent IT Director, Grant Reveal, instructed McCorkle
to enable the function that saved the messages. That made it a public records issue.
Braun said this is used only internally. Sherwood said she stopped using it when the
conversations evolved into what she wanted a record of. Stinchcomb suggested
establishing a policy that this be used only for non-record messages, for messages
that do not conduct public business.
Sherwood asked if all employees have access to it. Braun said only full-time
employees plus the part-time HR employee so he can act as intermediary for the HR
Director. Consensus was that the Mayor and Braun would write a policy about
appropriate use, that non-compliance by any individual employee would be a
disciplinary issue, and that we would consider all instant messages already archived
to be non-records.
5. Background Checks
Montgomery explained that the Civil Service Secretary has made these files available
to the candidates who are the subject of the checks and sometimes other cities
where one of our candidates has applied will ask for the check we already did. She
said the Secretary has asked questions about the propriety of disclosing these files
so Montgomery has researched this.
The Ohio Revised Code includes a number of job positions for which a check is
required and for each of those, specifies that the records are confidential. However,
there are a couple court decisions saying these records for police candidates are
public except for any information in them that is protected by law. Montgomery gave
the example of the legal exemption for personal residential information about police
officers. She said if a candidate is already an officer somewhere else when he
applies in Gahanna, then that information about him within the background check file
is confidential. She said ORC also exempts information provided to the Bureau of
Criminal Investigation & Information and wondered if information in our background
check files might be from that source.
Montgomery said she is also not clear on exactly what records we include when we
use the common term, "background check." Is this only criminal records, or does it
include a psychologist's report, or other information? She said she has asked HR
Director Kristen Treadway for her opinion on what the term means but Treadway has
been very busy and hasn't yet been able to answer.
Sherwood reminded everyone that when the realignment of Civil Service and HR
functions is complete and we have seen how it's going to play out, we will need to do
a major overhaul of those retention schedules so she recommended we wait until a
2011 Records Commission meeting to discuss this, with input from Treadway.
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6. Case Law Update
There were no questions or comments about the written updates provided in packets
with agendas. The written update was a summary of Striker v. Smith decided in June
in the 5th District Court of Appeals about the public records policy poster , Municipal
Construction Equipment Operators' Labor Council v. City of Cleveland decided in
May in the 8th District appeals court about request response time, and Davila v.
Bucyrus decided in July in the Crawford Co. Common Pleas Court about rewriting
police call tapes, with brief explanations of how those decisions related to Gahanna
procedures. Our current procedures are in line with the two appeals court decisions.
Montgomery said in the written update that the Davila case illustrates some need for
review and discussion of our current procedures.
7. Legislative Update
There were no questions or comments about the written updates provided in packets
with agendas. All pending legislation reported at previous 2010 Records Commission
meetings is still in committee due to the General Assembly 's summer recess. The
update also reported the June 21, 2010, introduction of HB 556 which would prohibit
asking about felony conviction on an employment application, but would still allow a
criminal records check to be done.
E. OFFICIAL REPORTS:
1. From Records Administrator
None.
F. COMMENTS, ITEMS NTO ON AGENDA
None.
G. NEXT MEETING
Wednesday, November 3, 2010, at 8:45a.m. in the Council caucus room.
H. ADJOURNMENT
10:05a.m., by consensus.
Reported by Sharon Montgomery, Records Administrator
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APPROVED by the Records Commission, this
day of 2013.
Isobel L. Sherwood, MMC
Clerk of Council
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Agenda
City of Gahanna
200 South Hamilton Road
Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Agenda - Final
Wednesday, September 15, 2010
8:50 AM
City Hall
Records Commission
GAHANNA’S VISION is…
… to be an innovative model community that values its rich heritage, pursues high standards and promotes
respect among its citizens.
GAHANNA’S MISSION is…
… to ensure an exceptional quality of life by providing comprehensive services, financial stability, and
well-planned development which preserves the natural environment, in order that city government will continue
to be responsive, accessible and accountable to our diverse and growing community of citizens.
All meetings and meeting agendas are subject to last minute changes. Please contact the Clerk’s Office at
614-342-4090 to confirm the date and time of this meeting or to request any special accommodations.
Records Commission Meeting Agenda - Final September 15, 2010
A. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
B. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
C. ITEMS FOR APPROVAL
D. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION
E. OFFICIAL REPORTS:
1. From Records Administrator
F. COMMENTS, ITEMS NTO ON AGENDA
G. NEXT MEETING
H. ADJOURNMENT
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