Lodgers Tax Committee
Regular MeetingGallup, NM · March 19, 2019
Minutes
LODGERS TAX COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES
3/19/2019
10:00am
City Council Chambers, 110 W Aztec, Gallup NM
1. Roll Call: Cindy Tanner, Anna Connell, Jeremy Boucher
Approval of Minutes Motion by Cindy Second by Anna
2. Presentation of Annual Funding Chart and Expenditures Guide
Jennifer explained to the LT Committee how to read the funding chart and attendance columns
on the Annual Funding Chart. Jennifer explained the expenses and reimbursement documents
and announced they’ll be mailed with letters after the funding requests see City council.
Following questions Jennifer explained that each interview would take approximately 7 minutes
due to the volume of interviews. She asked Cindy Tanner to speak about what exactly the
committee wants to address with the applications.
Lastly Jennifer reminded everyone that funding as always is a first come first serve process and
thanked everyone for being there.
End of FY19 Applications
Funding Remaining: $80,965
Amount Requested: $82,500.00
Amount Recommended: $78,500
1. Memorial Day 5K Last year’s dip in numbers was weather releated and they are
requesting the same amount. Motion to recommend $5000.00 by Jeremy second by
Cindy, all in favor RECOMMENDATION $5,000
2. Adventure Gallup Guide Request $25000 Discussion about not doubling up with
Visitors Guide Jeremy moves to recommend 25K Cindy seconds, all in favor
RECOMMENDATION $25,000
3. Lions Club Rodeo requested $25000. Cindy comments that the advertising budget is
very impression Anna motioned to recommend 25K Jeremy second, all in favor
RECOMMENDATION $25,000
4. Lions Club BBQ Request $5000 the people are already here. Jeremy- what is the goal
with your BBQ? To give people something to do during the daytime because the rodeo is
in the evening. Cindy added- wasn’t the BBQ at the park at some point? It has moved
often. They said that it is mailed out to applicants and contestants. Discussed their radio
ads in Texas and Oklahoma. They are going to Grow with Google to learn how to do
social media. Anna motions to recommend funding at 4K, Jeremy seconds, all in favor
RECOMMENDATION $4,000
5. Spanish Market Request $12,500.00 Jennifer asked Barb to explain how they track
attendance- this year they’ll be doing surveys and more consumer interaction. Barb
stated she’s reducing her ask by 1,000 because the street banner isn’t reasonable and
only attracts locals. Cindy makes a motion to recommend $11,500 and anna seconds.
All in favor. Barb states to adjust the AZ Knights of Columbus ad. RECOMMENDATION
$11,500
6. New Mexico High School Rodeo Semi-Finals Request $10,000. Committee desires to
recommend last year’s amount of $8K and doesn’t to fund the buckle awards. Motion by
Cindy second Anna. All in favor. RECOMMENDATION $8,000.00
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FY20 Part 1 Grant Applications
Funding Available: $250,000
Amount Requested: $218,161.43
Amount Recommended: $196,736.98
Balance potentially remaining for all unfunded FY20 projects: 53,263.02
1. Freedom Ride Flight and Cruise $17,891.09- Francis explains he’s mostly just
changing the media mix. In previous years they used ad agencies to place social media
and placed ads on Pandora radio and Pandora tv in AZ and NM. Last year and this year
they don’t plan for that but will be doing more Facebook social media advertising.
Francis explains that they would like to have more people for the event and that in order
to host more people they need to utilize more space. They are discussion increasing the
power available to the vendors’ area. Cindy motion to recommend 17891.09 Jeremy
second, all in favor RECOMMENDATION $17891.09
2. Red Rock Motorsports Desert 100 $12,500. Greg says that they track through wrist
bands and entries. Cindy moves that they recommend 12,500, second by Anna. All in
favor. Greg thanks the committee. RECOMMENDATION $12,500
3. Gallup Inter-Tribal Indian Ceremonial Request $50K Jennifer explained the coop grant.
Jeremy motions recommend 50K, Cindy seconds 50K. All in favor.
RECOMMENDATION $50,000
4. Touch Down Football League Request $20,000 Sammy said it’s their 10th anniversary
this year and they want to do something special for the teams this year. They had 40
teams last year and they can expand to up to 52 teams this year. One of the things they
want to do is a Championship banner- part of an award package for the teams that they
can display at other tournaments. They have 18 teams that come from ABQ and Rio
Rancho. Pueblo, CO, brought three teams last year. Jennifer asked if he planned to ask
for 20 again next year for year 11 and he said probably no, it would be less. They got the
idea for the banner from a team from northern AZ. He also brought up wanting to use a
social media contractor. Jeremy motions to approve the request in the amount of 20K,
Cindy seconds. All in favor. RECOMMENDATION $20,000
5. Wildthing Championship Bull Riding Request $35,000.00. He has historically not
asked for more because he couldn’t but last year we changed the rules about what we
could award. Larry requests additional funding to help grow his Friday night crowd. The
committee passed around photos and flyers from him. The lodgers tax funding offsets
the costs of putting on the event- the sponsorships can go toward the quality of the event
instead of going toward the marketing. He always spends more than 25K on marketing.
He also explained how he’s a fundraiser for Manuelito Children’s Home. Cindy: What
does the firework display cost (just out of curiosity)- Larry says they get a special price
because they’ve been doing it for over 20 years. It’s about a 10K shoot for about 8K
because the condensed down the amount of fireworks within one song. Cindy said it
seems to get bigger every year. Larry agreed, this year they’ll be keeping it the same size
as last year. Jennifer mentioned that Southwest Planning will be doing an event
evaluation of this next year and also mentioned we’re using a Wildthing photo on a
billboard soon. Jeremy motions to recommend the amount of $35K and Cindy seconds.
All in favor. RECOMMENDATION OF $35,000
6. Friends of Hubbell Fall Native Art Auction Request $4450.00 They discussed that
since this event hasn’t append yet they are funding it at the same level as their May event
last fiscal year. Jeremy recommends funding at 4100, anna seconds. All in Favor.
RECOMMENDATION OF $4,100
7. Tri-State Firefighters Convention Request $8,596.49. McKinley County is hosting the
event for the firefighters this year. The City hosted it last time. Cindy asked them to
describe the event. They state that they anticipate 250 people coming from outside the
area. It moves every year. The event is three nights. The committee asked if this is
something that could be recurring. Jennifer mentioned that the difficulty with this kind of
event is that there isn’t an opportunity to recoup cost from entry fees so they can’t
guarantee their own income to continue to host the event. Jennifer asked how they are
getting people to their event because their entire ask is promotional items. They
explained that they do a mailing to the individual fire units and firemen. Jeremy: normally
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we don’t fund more than 5K for a first-time request, but can we put on a show to attract
people? Cindy then asked what goes on for family members that grows the event. They
described the dinner events. Jennifer reminded them that need to be remembering that
we have the level of funding that we have and stated that she would remind them
between all the applications about the funding levels (this continued throughout the
meeting) Jennifer explained that the City will not be sponsoring the event- they are
tapped out with how many events that they can sponsor, and that it was discussed with
the Gallup Fire Department and City Manager. Jeremy motions to recommend $5K,
Anna Connell seconds. RECOMMENDATION $5,000
8. Kicker Arenacross $18,500 Jennifer explained that they historically see about 5K in
attendance at their events. Tod is showing the awards and posters to the committee.
He’s been holding events in this community since 1995. For a long time he was the
second largest arena cross event promoter in the country, and his competitor quit this
year. One third of his budget is local but that’s because its important to have a full house
for the racers. The rest is Google, social media, and more. They received 12,000 in
funding last year. This year they have seen a complete shift in their advertising since he
brought on a social media person. The online and door tickets are $10, they can go for $5
in advance from O’Reillys. The committee is discussing the difficulty of their current
event. Cindy motions to recommend 14K and Anna seconds. All in favor.
RECOMMENDATION $14,000
9. Squashblossom Classic $9,866.00 They are increasing their ask back to what it was in
the past. ($10K). They have historically spent more than the 10 they have been
receiving. They are trying to grow the event by targeting younger bike racers, teams, and
working with Scott Nydam’s group to grow the youth component of the event. Right now,
there isn’t an official NM Nica league but they’re trying to tap in to that. They doubled
their Facebook and digital a17ds budgets. The middle age and millennial demographic is
saturated but they want to lead in the youth event component. Jeremy discussed Scott’s
plans to build out the NM team. Jeremy motions to recommend the $9,866. Second by
Anna. All in favor. RECOMMENDATION $9,866
10. Mario Estrada Softball Tournament Request $8650. The application says she’s going
to double her attendance but there isn’t a plan spelled out for that. Anna takes issue with
the fact that it’s all local with no plan for growing outside the community. Yolanda Azua
mentioned that Sandra would text Jennifer about not being there. Jennifer checked her
email and saw that Sandra sent one sentence saying she had to work, but did not outline
a plan to represent herself in any other way. Jennifer attempted to call the applicant and
she was unavailable. Jeremy motions to recommend at $5K and anna seconds. All in
favor. RECOMMENDATION $5,000
11. Gallup Film Festival $22,422.26 Knifewing stated “When something goes lower we
need to spend more money to fix the advertising issue. They didn’t spend a lot of time
looking at why attendance was low, but they spend a lot of time looking at what their
strengths were.” They had more film submissions and they spread out their films and
that could be a reason. He believes that they had less people from in town show up.
He’s discussing the possibility of a project but it hasn’t confirmed or contracted anything
in our community. Continued effort to get some of the Sundance submissions to come
their way, not the winners, but they submitted. Jeremy brings up that when they’ve
awarded 20K to people they’re looking at numbers over 4-6K people in attendance.
When you’re looking at the amount of funding per head, it doesn’t make economic sense
on a per head spend to recommend his ask. Cindy asked why he would want the
increase and where that would go- he discussed the film freeway stuff and stated that he
was very interested in getting more film submissions and while that might not get more
people it would help the event. Jennifer reviewed his spending for the last two years and
that an estimate of over 10K per year hasn’t left the community with regards to
advertising (two years ago he spent $13,000 on building a website, last year was about
$10K on making a film and editing video). Knifewing says they’re advertising for
increased submissions- it doesn’t mean people will come but those who do will come
from further away. Cindy asks if it could be the dates- Jennifer confirmed there are three
applicants in the same weekend (Squashblossom, Red Rock 100 and this event) and
Jennifer also noted that she emailed all three event organizers to let them know their
events overlapped back in December. Knifewing made the point- once they’re here
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they’re here so the events taking place at the same time shouldn’t be an issue. Jeremy-
walk me through the moviemaker social media- four posts over a few months is
massively expensive. Facebook is much cheaper. Jeremy explained that you can dial in
those targets for significantly less money. Knifewing says that it doesn’t reach the same
targets. Knifewing showed his program ad booklet. Cindy appreciates what he does for
the event. Jeremy moves to recommend the 16K to see what he can do since it doesn’t
make sense to him to increase when there are events pulling in many more people with a
smaller budget. Second Anna. All in favor. RECOMMENDATION $16,000
12. Gallup Senior 50/60 Plus Softball Tournament $7905.70
Jennifer asked how they break up the park since there are two tournaments going on at
the same time in the same park. Yolanda explained she’s the secretary for the men’s
league but runs the womens and that they are on separate fields. Jennifer broke it down
with Yolanda- the banners would be for the traveling teams to have banners. The 7300 is
specific to the Labor Day tournament. Jennifer asked why is there an increase of 2K.
Yolanda said that its promotional items for branding outside the community. Jeremy
brought up that the entire budget isn’t doing anything to bring people into the event
because it is entirely promotional items- it’s all a bonus after they are here. He says the
committee is looking for more straight marketing to bring people into the community. He
said they opened the flood gates with their traveling team last time, but that this isn’t
helping the event get attendance. Jennifer: how are you planning on growing attendance
on the events- Yolanda says she’s going to the big ABQ tournament to give out materials
for two weeks, she’s taking info from the Chamber with her. Jennifer explained that
legally we can’t fund the June event advertising in ABQ, nor can they fund banners for
the traveling team because they are independent of the labor day event. The only thing
that can be funded is materials pertinent to the labor day event because that is what is
spelled out in the application. Cindy asked- how many teams come for the labor day
event. There are 16 teams and 10 of that come from out of town. Jeremy motions to
recommend 5K because there are only promotional items but no marketing outside of
the community within the application. He encourages her to consider apply for
marketing/advertising expenses in the future in how she breaks things down. Anna
seconds. All in favor. RECOMMENDATION $5,000
13. Gloria Saucedo 40 Women’s Tournament $2379.89
The application doesn’t say what they are buying from Sportsworld. Yolanda clarifies its
hoodies, t-shirts, and other promotional clothing items. Yolanda clarified these are the
prizes given out at the event. Jeremy motions we approve the 2379.89, especially since
it is a decrease from their funding two years ago. Anna seconds. All in favor.
RECOMMENDATION $2379.89
Applications not received yet for F20 that were received in 2019: 24 Hours in Enchanted Forest,
Race at the Rock, Red Rock Trailer Roping, Red Rock Balloon Rally, Spitfire/Classic Invitational
Rodeo, USTRC Team Roping, Adventure Guide, Lions Club Rodeo, Lions Club BBQ, Spanish
Market, Memorial Day 5k, NMHSRA Semi-finals, Native Film Series
Motion to Adjourn: Jeremy, Seconded: Cindy
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