Council Regular/Special Meeting
Special MeetingGilbert, AZ · November 13, 2018
Minutes
MINUTES OF THE GILBERT TOWN COUNCIL IN SPECIAL MEETING OF TUESDAY NOVEMBER
13, 2018, AT 5:00 PM, MUNICIPAL CENTER 1, ROOM 300, 50 E CIVIC CENTER DRIVE,
GILBERT, ARIZONA
COUNCIL PRESENT: Mayor Jenn Daniels, Vice Mayor Brigette Peterson,
Councilmembers Eddie Cook, Jordan Ray and Jared Taylor
COUNCIL ABSENT: Councilmembers Scott Anderson and Victor Petersen
PLANNING COMMISSION Chair Brian Andersen, Commissioners Seth Banda, Gregory
PRESENT: Froehlich, Brian Johns, Les Smith and Alternate Daniel
Cifuentes
PLANNING COMMISSION Vice Chair Carl Bloomfield and Commissioner David Cavenee
ABSENT:
STAFF PRESENT: Town Manager Patrick Banger, Clerk Lisa Maxwell, Town
Attorney Christopher Payne, Development Services Director
Kyle Mieras, and Interim Planning Manager Catherine Lorbeer
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Jenn Daniels called the meeting to order at 5:06 p.m.
INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Councilmember Eddie Cook gave the invocation. Vice Mayor Brigette Peterson led the
Pledge of Allegiance.
WELCOME AND INTRODUCTIONS
Mayor Jenn Daniels welcomed everyone and had everyone introduce themselves.
COMMUNICATIONS FROM CITIZENS
None.
AGENDA ITEM
1. Presentation and discussion of the 2020 General Plan update.
Matt Klyszeiko and Kevin Kugler, consultants from Michael Baker, gave an overview of
the process for updating the General Plan. Outreach efforts began in July 2018 with the
consultants working to get input from the community. Instead of waiting for the public
to come to workshops, they put out an electronic community survey and social pinpoint
to get information. The consultants from Michael Baker will be looking for the best mix
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of land use when the Town reaches buildout. The updated General Plan will be on the
August 2020 ballot for voter approval.
There was discussion about the Social Pinpoint program, how it worked and what data it
collected. There was interest in knowing how the public learned about the various
options available for providing feedback to the Town. Digital Government has sent out
messages on social media and they have a schedule to continue sending out messages.
Interim Planning Manager Catherine Lorbeer gave further information on various ways
the Town is working to reach the community. Alternate Daniel Cifuentes asked if the
consultants had looked mailers or door hangers. Mayor Jenn Daniels said utility inserts
were good to reach people and much less expensive.
Commissioner Brian Johns took the survey during the presentation. He found the
comments on the Social Pinpoint map to be interesting and informative. Mayor Jenn
Daniels said the Economic Development department has more up-to-date statistics than
what was presented and that information will be sent to the Planning Commissioners.
Vice Mayor Brigette Peterson noted most of the Council was new to the General Plan
update process as they were not in office during the last General Plan update. This time
the Town is using a consultant to collect the data instead of Town staff. Alternate Daniel
Cifuentes asked if the impending use of autonomous cars and the increased use of Uber
and Lyft were being considered. The reply was autonomous cars and data on smart
cities is all being considered. Development Services Director Kyle Mieras said they have
been talking to Waymo and having them review the transportation section of the
General Plan. Mayor Jenn Daniels noted the Town now has a Transportation Manager
who is also involved in reviewing the General Plan.
Commissioner Seth Banda asked if there was any data about the users of Social
Pinpoint. That information is included in the Community Survey but not Social Pinpoint.
Commissioner Seth Banda said he is curious about who is providing feedback.
2. Presentation, discussion and Council direction regarding Multi-Family in Regional
Commercial.
Interim Planning Manager Catherine Lorbeer covered the merits and options for
removing Conditional Use Permits (CUP) for having multi-family construction on a site
zoned for Regional Commercial. If removed, only lofts above which are permitted by
right in most regional commercial zoning districts would be allowed. That was added as
a way to add flexibility and encourage mixed-use developments. Multi-family
development would require a zoning change if the CUP option is removed.
Vice Mayor Brigette Peterson asked when the changes were made. The reply was was
approximately 2005. Mayor Jenn Daniels noted a subcommittee has been formed to
look at making changes to the Land Development Code.
Commissioner Les Smith asked what percentage of multi-family developmental would
be optimal in the future. Mayor Jenn Daniels said the goal is to attract employers and for
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most it is important to have a mix of different housing types. She said what she is
hearing from citizens is they want the Town to stop building multi-family units. Vice
Mayor Brigette Peterson noted the City of Chandler is 19% multi-family and they are still
building. Councilmember Eddie Cook said the vacancy of homes around Deloitte is light
now and a multi-family offering would be a good fit there.
Commissioner Seth Banda asked about the vision of Town Council. Mayor Jenn Daniels
said the citizens do not care about percentages. She said this is a tough conversation to
have in a community that is rather affluent but Gilbert is home to a diverse group of
people. Chair Brian Andersen said multi-family cases are the toughest cases that come
before the Planning Commission. Mayor Jenn Daniels said the average citizen doesn’t
understand CUP’s and requiring a total rezone is more transparent. The problem is this
would be harder on developers.
There was a discussion about multi-family developments. Apartments appear to attract
transient residents. There is a difference between apartments, town homes and condos.
Chair Brian Andersen noted most citizens do not know what apartments look like today.
They are more like resorts. Demand will determine how many apartments will be built in
the Town. There was additional discussion about homes bought for the purpose of being
rented out in Gilbert. That data will be provided to the Planning Commission.
Councilmember Eddie Cook said when he looks at this cases he know that commercial
development is revenue generating. His goal is to generate money for the Town so taxes
can remain low. There was discussion about mixed use development and what that
really means.
The guidelines created for CUP are subjective and that has caused some confusion.
Councilmember Jared Taylor said he believes multi-family development increase
collected sales taxes because he believes there will be more residents in Town in the
future he sees the Town being able to collect taxes from on-line transactions. There was
discussion about the possibility of this happening.
Councilmember Jordan Ray said the old commercial model with the corner gas station
and strip mall on every corner is going away. The Town has to look at non-traditional
development. The Town will have to get stakeholders involved in changing this process.
He does not want to create new rules that would be overly complicated.
Councilmember Jared Taylor said he does not want to approve this change until he
understands what problem it would be solving. Mayor Jenn Daniels said the Council
looks at every request on a case-by-case basis on purpose. They need to start thinking
differently about these requests.
Interim Planning Manager Catherine Lorbeer said the process is for the Planning
Commission to initiate the changes. After that happens the Town can involve
stakeholders to get their input. The code changes will be very simple to remove CUP.
Creating higher density zoning districts will be more involved.
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3. Review of the Planning Commission/Design Review Board 2018 highlights and
trends.
Interim Planning Manager Catherine Lorbeer gave a presentation highlighting statistics
for the Development Services Department and cases heard by the Planning
Commission. Recently approved major developments were shown. The trends are for
placemaking; urban places and authenticity; mixed-use; repurposing anchor stores;
food, beverage and entertainment; and state of place index.
Mayor Jenn Daniels thanked everyone for their hard work.
Councilmember Eddie Cook said he likes to tell people that everything the Town does
they all do things together as a team with a common vision. He apologized for not
always sharing visions and communicating with the Planning Commission. Vice Mayor
Brigette Peterson said the Commissioners have a tough job. They have to protect the
General Plan. She discussed appropriate conduct of the Commissioners at their
meetings. It is important to be transparent and have discussions in public.
Councilmember Eddie Cook suggested inviting the Commissioners to the next Council
retreat. Mayor Jenn Daniels said Council will continue to have a dialogue with the
Planning Commission. Consistency breeds a community of trust.
Commissioner Gregory Froehlich said knowing the big vision for the Town is very helpful.
Commissioner Seth Banda noted he appreciates having this meeting with the Council
and learning of the Council’s vision. He said at the last Planning meeting he heard a
comment his vote was going to be overturned by Council and that bothered him. Mayor
Jenn Daniels said getting the perspective from Commissioners is invaluable when cases
come before Council.
There was a procedural discussion on conducting the Planning Commission. The
Commissioners would like to say the Pledge of Allegiance and Development Services
Director Kyle Mieras said that can be added to the agenda. There was also a question on
why the Council liaison is at the end of the agenda. There was discussion on how the
continuance of an agendized item is continued. Mayor Jenn Daniels said the Chair of the
Commission is responsible for reining in discussion.
ADJOURN
Mayor Jenn Daniels adjourned the meeting at 6:48 p.m.
ATTEST:
___________________________ ___________________________________
Jenn Daniels, Mayor Lisa Maxwell, MMC, Town Clerk
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CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and correct copy of the minutes of the
special meeting of the Town Council of the Town of Gilbert held on the 13th day of
November 2018. I further certify that the meeting was duly called and held and that a
quorum was present.
Dated this ____ day of ____________________.
___________________________________
Lisa Maxwell, CMC, Town Clerk
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Agenda
COUNCIL MEETING AGENDA
November 13, 2018
Members may attend in person or by telephone.
Jenn Daniels, Mayor ● Brigette Peterson, Vice Mayor
Scott Anderson ● Eddie Cook ● Victor Petersen ● Jordan Ray ● Jared Taylor
Joint Planning/Council Meeting
11/13/2018 5:00:00 PM
Municipal Center 1, Room 300
50 E Civic Center Drive
Gilbert, Arizona
AGENDA ITEMS MAY BE DISCUSSED IN A DIFFERENT SEQUENCE.
ITEMS WILL NOT BE DISCUSSED PRIOR TO POSTED MEETING TIME.
CALL TO ORDER
INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
WELCOME AND INTRODUCTIONS
COMMUNICATIONS FROM CITIZENS
AGENDA ITEM
PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION
1 Presentation and discussion of the 2020 General Plan update.
2 Presentation, discussion and Council direction regarding Multi-Family in Regional
Commercial.
3 Review of the Planning Commission/Design Review Board 2018 highlights and
trends.
ADJOURN
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