Council Regular/Special Meeting
Special MeetingGilbert, AZ · November 7, 2023
Minutes
MINUTES OF THE GILBERT TOWN COUNCIL, IN SPECIAL MEETING, FALL COUNCIL
RETREAT – DAY 2, OF TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 7, 2023 AT 8:30 AM, SOUTHEAST
REGIONAL LIBRARY, 775 N. GREENFIELD ROAD, GILBERT, ARIZONA
COUNCIL PRESENT: Mayor Brigette Peterson, Vice Mayor Kathy Tilque,
Councilmembers Scott Anderson, Chuck Bongiovanni, Bobbi
Buchli, Yung Koprowski, and Jim Torgeson
COUNCIL ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Town Manager Patrick Banger, Town Clerk Chaveli Herrera,
Deputy Town Clerk Judy Martinez, Town Attorney Christopher
Payne, Assistant Town Manager Mary Goodman, Assistant
Town Manager Dawn Prince, Assistant Town Manager Leah
Rhineheimer, Intergovernmental Relations Director Rob Bohr,
Finance Management Services Director Håkon Johanson,
Parks and Recreation Director Robert Carmona, Fire Chief
Rob Duggan, and Police Chief Michael Soelberg
OTHERS PRESENT: Facilitator Jim Lehrman
AGENDA ITEM
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting to order at 8:37 a.m.
AGENDA ITEMS
1. Council Financial Policies
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Intergovernmental Relations Director Bohr discussed Council Financial Policies and said the
first piece would be the Council Office Budget and Expenses, then the Financial Policies for
Council Support Costs, Travel Stipend, and Council Pay and Compensation. He noted it was
a pretty thin budget and broken into two areas of Discretionary, which had a budget of $2,600
for the Mayor and $800 for the Council, then a total of $8,000 for Employee Development,
adding the $8,000 budget was for Councilmembers to use for training and conferences. He
shared sample scenarios based on comparisons with other cities to demonstrate creating an
individual budget for each Councilmember to allow them to prioritize their initiatives and
choose where to spend money. The proposed individual discretionary budget for the Mayor
was $3,000 and then $2,000 for each of the other six Councilmembers for a total of $15,000
under Discretionary. Additionally, he said there was a proposed individual professional
development budget of $12,000 for the Mayor and $6,000 for each of the six other
Councilmembers for a total of $48,000 under Professional Development. He noted the
Mayor’s budget was larger because the Mayor attended up to four different conferences. He
discussed how increased Discretionary Funding would also increase the need for more
accountability to justify how their expenditures would benefit the community.
Facilitator Lehrman asked if there was a majority green light of the Council to consider
changes to the Mayor and Council budget. Mayor Peterson recommended changing the
policy to allow flexibility by removing specifics such as stating that one conference was in-
state, one was regional, etc.
Councilmember Koprowski suggested having an application for how to use Discretionary
Funding to add accountability. She proposed instead of having an individual amount for each
Councilmember, it could be one pot of money; she used the example of $10,000 for buying
school supplies for children. She said an application could be submitted explaining how
much it would cost to buy those supplies and how it would benefit the community. She said
then if there were other Councilmembers with other initiatives, they could submit an
application or form and it would be scheduled and accounted for.
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Director Bohr clarified that the proposal was not for Professional Development or Travel, but
for the Discretionary Funds which would almost make the use competitive. Councilmember
Bongiovanni supported the idea.
Assistant Town Manager Rhineheimer asked for clarification on the intent of Discretionary
Funding. Councilmember Koprowski asked if there were examples of what that money was
used for, such as for office supplies. Director Bohr stated that it was not for office supplies
and most of that money had not been used previously. Director Bohr continued that it was
intended to be open for a variety of uses, such as a project or even booking a table at an
event that was important to the community and things not already established in our budget.
He agreed a form could result in being more intentional and help with tracing those requests
back and sticking to the budget.
Facilitator Lehrman asked for confirmation that it could be used for anything that the
Councilmembers chose, but asked if Councilmember Koprowski’s suggestion would bring
definition and purpose to it.
Councilmember Koprowski restated her idea was not to have a set amount per
Councilmember, but one amount that could be requested to be used for something specific
using a form or process, adding it would add accountability.
Councilmember Torgeson asked if there was a form or process, who would determine the
worthiness. He used examples for giving money to a nonprofit such as For Our Town,
reserving a table for a CeCe’s Hope event, or paying for a professional development class for
a staff member.
Mayor Peterson spoke of not getting into the details, rather establishing an amount first and
going from there. Facilitator Lehrman discussed how “form followed function”, then asked
if the agreement of the Council was to consider the intention of the funds at a later time.
Mayor Peterson said there needed to be the distinction made for staff on if the funds should
go into one pot or individual pots, because that would impact how the policy would be done.
Director Bohr agreed that it should be established if the two categories of Discretionary and
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Professional Development were agreeable, then if there should be one bucket or individual
amounts. Facilitator Lehrman asked why that was important right now; Vice Mayor Tilque
stated it was tied to the ordinance.
Councilmember Torgeson said if they did keep the individual amounts but then wanted to
use the funds for something as a group, it would force the Councilmembers to work together
and have conversations, which he supported. Mayor Peterson stated she liked the idea of
an individual budget as well. Councilmember Bongiovanni stated he supported the idea of
having one bucket. Councilmember Buchli stated either way the Council would have to be
responsible for what they spent, adding it was all about accountability. Councilmember
Anderson agreed with keeping the funds in individual buckets and agreed they could work
together if they wished to spend the funds for the same purpose. Mayor Peterson offered
the reminder that if they had a bucket and wanted to spend money together, it would have
to be decided on in a public meeting; she then restated her preference for it to stay in
individual amounts.
Councilmember Koprowski proposed if the Discretionary Funds were by individual that they
be set at $3,000 each, regardless if for the Mayor or a Councilmember. She discussed the
individual Professional Development Funds, stating a caveat could be that the travel be
based on if a Councilmember was selected to serve in a specific capacity with a group, then
that person would attend that conference.
Facilitator Lehrman asked if there was a green light for moving on with future discussion
regarding keeping the funds in separate buckets or not. Town Manager Banger stated staff
could work on the parameters proposed during the meeting. There was a request to have a
comparison with other cities included.
Intergovernmental Relations Director Bohr summarized Financial Policies with Council
Support Costs that included benefits; office space; communication support; expenditure
reimbursement and purchasing cards; travel, training, memberships, and social events; and
transportation support. He asked if the Council was supportive of keeping the following
statements as-is or changing them - The Mayor and Council: shall have the option of
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enrolling in the Town health and dental benefit programs, are covered by Workers’
Compensation for work-related injuries, and are not eligible for vacation, sick leave, holiday
pay, or other similar compensation. Facilitator Lehrman confirmed that a green light for the
current language was agreeable.
Director Bohr summarized the policy on Office Space. Mayor Peterson noted that the policy
listed a telephone, adding that offices did not have telephones any longer. Assistant Town
Manager Goodman suggested the first sentence of the policy simply state, “The Town will
provide an individual office at the Civic Center for the Mayor, including any necessary
resources.”
Councilmember Koprowski discussed lack of structure with office supplies and asked if
printing services should be added. Assistant Town Manager Goodman voiced support of
having broad language and not specifying details to allow flexibility for when positions
changed or were added. The majority of the Council was in the green, or yellow green,
category of the language proposed.
Director Bohr provided the language of the Communication Support policy noting that the
Council would receive a Town-issued phone rather than an option for a phone stipend. There
were no comments made.
Director Bohr provided the policy on Expenditure Reimbursement and Purchasing Card,
asking if there was need for them to have a purchasing card at all. Facilitator Lehrman asked
that language still worked for everyone. Vice Mayor Tilque said that information needed to
be part of a checklist to discuss with the Council and new Councilmembers, noting most of
them did not know that a purchasing card was an option. Mayor Peterson stated she did
not know if a purchasing card was necessary, but agreed if the Council chose to keep that
option, it should be included in the orientation. Facilitator Lehrman confirmed there was no
objection.
Director Bohr shared the proposed Travel, Training, Memberships and Social Events policy.
Some of this topic was discussed earlier in the meeting under a different category.
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Councilmember Koprowski noted that the Mayor’s budget was important because it also
included an international trip, but she suggested that it should be explained that if other
Councilmembers went on the trip that they paid for it themselves. Councilmember Koprowski
and Vice Mayor Tilque discussed the need to align the budget amounts. Mayor Peterson
stated she did not think the trips needed to be defined since it was about accountability, but
said in order to be appointed into some of the committees one had to show interest.
Councilmember Koprowski stated she understood that point but was worried about
excessive travel unless a Councilmember was assigned to a committee that related to a
travel expense; she was in support of updating policy to allow flexibility but limit excessive
use. Facilitator Lehrman asked if everyone was in agreement to remove the specification of
the number of trips because budget would manage that; the Council was in agreement.
Vice Mayor Tilque discussed how the policy dictated distance for paying for a hotel room,
noting how long it took to drive back and forth from places in Maricopa County after long,
multi-day conferences. Director Bohr stated the revised policy was silent on the distance
requirement and it was up to their discretion for distance and timing. Mayor Peterson agreed
it was no longer determined by mileage. Finance Management Services Director Johanson
stated what was in the policy now included prudent judgement.
Director Bohr discussed the Transportation Support Policy including the stipend that the
Council could receive on a monthly basis. Mayor Peterson stated the 600 miles per month
allowance for the Mayor was too much. Vice Mayor Tilque noted that more meetings were
being scheduled in-person again. Mayor Peterson stated that she was uncomfortable with
using the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) business travel rate, preferring instead for a flat rate
to be established by the Town; she noted Finance had not been tracking and adjusting the
IRS rate in the past. Councilmember Torgeson agreed that the IRS rate changed often but
said staff members were competent enough to manage that. Councilmember Koprowski
agreed with using the IRS rate, as it was an industry standard but suggested a monthly
allowance versus requiring tracking; she agreed that the number of allowable miles could be
reduced. Vice Mayor Tilque supported the IRS standard rate. Councilmember Buchli was
in favor of a flat rate but for increasing the amount. Councilmembers Anderson, Bongiovanni,
and Torgeson had no comments.
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Facilitator Lehrman asked for an indication of agreement to stick with using the IRS rate.
Mayor Peterson stated it was almost a red light for her because she had seen a procedural
breakdown and she did not get paid the current rate. Director Johanson acknowledged the
error and said staff would manage it going forward. Facilitator Lehrman confirmed the
Council was in the green or yellow category for acknowledging that the structure worked and
for staying with IRS rate. Director Johanson and Town Attorney Payne clarified that the
Council had the option to track and submit their actual miles for a mileage reimbursement,
then discussed tax differences. Mayor Peterson noted that someone could not do both;
Director Johanson agreed that it was either/or and you could not switch back and forth in
the same year. Mayor Peterson said explaining the differences for taxes should be added to
the Councilmember Handbook.
Director Bohr discussed a lack of consistency with the policies and asked if the Council
wished to discuss additional retroactive payments for the Council prior to FY2023. Facilitator
Lehrman asked if there was an actual dollar amount determined. Director Johanson stated
it was an elected benefit and involved prior fiscal years so it would take some time and
research, but he wished to know if the Council would like staff to review the matter. Mayor
Peterson and Councilmembers Anderson, Bongiovanni, and Torgeson agreed the
Councilmembers (including prior ones) should be made aware and that the matter deserved
to be corrected. Councilmember Buchli questioned if it would open “a huge barrel of worms”
and expressed other issues that may come up. Vice Mayor Tilque discussed how she was
surprised at how these things were missed, then asked whose responsibility it was and what
should be the process moving forward. They also discussed setting a precedent and statutes
of limitation.
Staff asked for clarification that the direction from the Council was to correct the incorrect
IRS rates that were paid out going back to January 2017 and to ask former Councilmembers
about the stipend. The majority of the Council gave the green light to proceed;
Councilmember Koprowski was yellow-green; Councilmember Buchli was in the red for going
back to 2017.
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Director Bohr discussed Council pay and compensation and provided a benchmarking
comparison showing Gilbert was in the lower half. Mayor Peterson stated Council
compensation was brought up by residents and media, but she was happy with the pay.
Councilmember Torgeson stated the discussion should be brought forward, that some
potential candidates mentioned not running for office because the pay was low. Facilitator
Lehrman asked if the Council gave a green light to have the discussion. Vice Mayor Tilque
stated she was not in favor of considering an increase in pay at that time. Councilmember
Anderson stated he was not sure he was in agreement with it, but thought it was worth a
discussion. Mayor Peterson stated she did not want to bring the topic forward for
consideration. Five of the Councilmembers gave the green light to discuss the topic at a
later time.
2. Communications Subcommittee Report Out and Meeting Decorum Protocols
Town Manager Banger reported out on the work of the Council Communications
Subcommittee and the following five focus categories: participation in public meetings; public
meetings, consistency, and protocols; customizing communications with the public; Capital
Improvement Plan (CIP) and Town project communications with stakeholders and the
community; and outward communication. He said the group agreed with recommendations
to move forward with education on the public speaking process and protocols via a video
shown at Council meetings and via online information, as well as an announcement of “for”
and “against” digital comments at meetings. The group considered but decided against
exploration of a formalized process allowing questions during a Study Session and a follow-
up process for outreach to those who spoke during public meetings. The Subcommittee
agreed on recommendations for having consistent agenda formatting for all public bodies,
exploration of a formalized way to announce the intent of a yes/no vote when confusion may
exist on a motion, and easy to locate postings of the decisions/actions voted on by the
Council or a voting recap sheet. He discussed the Subcommittee’s recommendations to
have the Town work on building relationships with home owner associations (HOA’s) by
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publishing Town updates in their newsletters and holding annual meetings, exploring options
to distribute text notifications to residents, and revamping and enhancing the “What’s
Developing Near Me” page on the Town website. The Subcommittee decided against the
ideas of an opt-in option for resident, conducting marketing to educate residents about
assisting investigations via the Neighbors app or Ring devices, and formalizing the process
for the Council to attend neighborhood meetings scheduled by Town or developers. He noted
the Subcommittee agreed to explore a pre-design program for standards for right-of-way
(ROW) and easement acquisition projects to determine appropriate scope of public
notification process, developing a consistent process for CIP/Town project-related meetings,
and hiring an in-house CIP communications professional to work with teams and the public
during CIP projects. Regarding outward communications, the Subcommittee agreed to staff
working to enhancing the Town website, expanding the General Plan webpage with
information about zoning and change requests, and hosting clients of commercial
development services to review timelines and processes. The group decided against
conducting quarterly Town Halls and expanding the General Plan webpage with information
about zoning requests.
Mayor Peterson requested the video that would be created explaining the meeting protocols
and public speaking processes be played in the Town Hall Lobby, in addition to inside the
Council Chambers.
Town Clerk Herrera provided background on the Subcommittee’s work regarding meeting
decorum protocols and shared the Subcommittee’s recommendations for direction on a
possible Study Session. Under the subject of Public Meetings and Decorum, the
Subcommittee recommended additional signage to inform the public of the policy on signs
and to clarify where signs could be placed; a protocol for larger groups of citizens wishing to
speak on the same topic; and updated language on the various sections of the agenda for
consistency and transparency. The Subcommittee did not recommend a third type of request
to speak card.
Facilitator Lehrman asked the Council if they wished to speak on any of those four items.
Councilmember Torgeson discussed concerns about sign restrictions violating the First
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Amendment, also asking if t-shirts were considered signs. Town Attorney Payne stated the
Town mirrored what was allowed at the Legislature and noted restrictions must be content-
neutral and enforced evenly; he provided a sheet with the language that was included in the
Council meeting decorum signs.
Mayor Peterson discussed how the Town Code stated public comment was to be 15 minutes
total. She advocated for updating the Code to match the process being followed; Town
Attorney Payne agreed to either follow that portion or remove it from Code. Mayor Peterson
stated she was in favor of bringing those recommendations forward to the Council in a Study
Session; the Council agreed, but did not see a reason to bring the decorum and policy signs
back to a Study Session again.
Town Clerk Herrera reviewed the Subcommittee’s recommendations under the topic of
Agenda Language Changes, including removing the language restricting the public from
speaking on agenda items that were not in the Public Hearing section of the agenda. Town
Attorney Payne agreed it should be allowable for the public to speak on any topic they
wished; adding though there was no right to speak on non-Public Hearing items, if there was
a Communications from Citizens section on the agenda, a person could still speak on any
matters within the jurisdiction of the Town. They also discussed simplifying language under
the Administrative Items section, removing the Policy section from the agenda since those
were actually Administrative Items, and then clarifying the language under the Future Items
section and removing the date component, since that was not always known.
Councilmember Anderson asked for clarification on if people could speak on Administrative
items or not. Mayor Peterson stated a person could still comment on an Administrative item
under the Communications from Citizens section of the agenda. Facilitator Lehrman
confirmed that everyone was in favor.
Town Clerk Herrera and Town Attorney Payne discussed the Council’s rights and limitations
for responding to public comment and the request to add those rules for the Council on the
Meeting Notes/Changes for the Dais Form. They noted that although the law did allow the
right to respond to criticism, it was not recommended by staff. Town Attorney Payne stated
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if the Council did respond to criticism it had to be at the completion of the Communications
from Citizens portion of the meeting and should be addressed to the Council, not the citizens.
They also noted the recommendation was for the standing section on the agenda that listed
all of the boards and commissions for liaison reporting could be removed from the agenda,
but the Council could still make those reports under the Councilmember Communications
Report section. Mayor Peterson suggested removing the “current events” wording from the
agenda, meaning that the Town Manager, Councilmembers, and Mayor could give any
reports or updates during their Communications section. Vice Mayor Tilque agreed, but said
staff should review the responsibilities of being a board/commission liaison with the Council,
including providing updates on their assignments and clarifying liaison expectations.
Town Attorney Payne discussed possible Municipal Code changes, including removal of the
Policy section from the agenda, noting again that policy changes could be voted on with the
Administrative items. He discussed the possible adoption of new open meeting procedural
rules to replace Robert’s Rules of Order. He noted one possibility was Rosenberg’s Rules or
Order or for the Town to approve their own procedural rules, using something simple and
clear. He said that change would also require an amendment to the Town Code, as well as
amending other documents including many board and commission bylaws. Lastly, he
discussed future agenda item requests and how the Code currently stated they can be added
by the Town Manager, at the request of the Mayor, or at the request of three
Councilmembers. He asked if there should be a required touchpoint with the Town Manager
to allow time for staff to prepare and make sure the timeline was appropriate and resources
were in place. He said the intent would be to add the Town Manager into the process but
not to take away the Council’s ability to add items.
Mayor Peterson stated she was a “yes” on removal of the Policy section and that those
changes could be voted on as Administrative items. Regarding rules of procedure, she asked
that the Rosenberg’s Rules be sent to Council with a highlighted section based on Gilbert’s
current Code and with a comparison to other cities. She stated she was a “yes” for a Study
Session item regarding this, as well for the future agenda items process. The Council agreed
to a green light for the removal of the Policy section, as well as a Study Session for the
possible Code changes including adoption of new procedural rules and the future item
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process. Vice Mayor Tilque thanked the Subcommittee for their work and said the process
was an attempt to simplify processes. Mayor Peterson discussed the importance of
reviewing processes and advocated for some sort of a virtual voting process.
3. Parks and Recreation Master Plan Update
Parks and Recreation Director Carmona discussed the 2014 Parks and Recreation Master
Plan including the priority areas of new growth with amenities and programs, maintaining
aging infrastructure, and building a network of partnerships. He said it included inventory
for parks based on the population of 208,000 in 2014 which totaled 605 developed acres of
parks and open space and 978 undeveloped areas, 750,000 square feet of facilities, 60
developed miles of multi-use paths, and 75,091 in attendance for programming. He noted
the 2019 new growth included Gilbert Regional Park, Desert Sky Park, and Cactus Yards.
He highlighted maintaining infrastructure with the Long Range Infrastructure Plan; Smart
Park initiatives using items like smart controllers, drones with hoses, etc.; and playground
replacement. He discussed working with other offices like Gilbert Digital and public/private
partnerships. He said Gilbert Parks and Recreation Department was known nationally for
facilities like Cactus Yards and Gilbert Regional Park. He announced that the 2024 Master
Plan would include a comprehensive engagement strategy, a parks and program inventory
and assessment, operations and cost-recovery analysis, a demands and needs assessment,
and market analysis and trends. He reported that based on the current population of 288,000
there were 726 developed acres and 459 undeveloped acres, 1.25 million square feet in
facilities (a 66% increase), 72 multi-use paths, 521,323 in attendance for programming (a
594% increase), plus certifications for Certified Autism Center and Commission for
Accreditation of Parks and Recreation Agencies (CAPRA).
Jason Genck from BerryDunn discussed the work of Gilbert’s Parks and Recreation
Department bringing in visitors from other areas. He expressed appreciation for the Council’s
discovery sessions and thanked Gilbert staff. He provided a project background and the
schedule, adding they were about three-quarters done and implementation of the Master
Plan would be in early 2024. He said they had not seen as much community engagement
with other cities, noting Gilbert had 60,938 points of contact with public engagement. He
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discussed methods of engagement and key findings including the top requests for
educational programs, creative playgrounds, public art, immersive experiences, community
gardens, a water park, and more open spaces and multi-use paths. He discussed the
popularity of sporting events and athletics, as well as requests for year-round access to
pools and quality of life amenities. He highlighted the focus groups and their identified
challenges including traffic, population growth, water conservation, affordable housing, and
maintaining infrastructure. He noted the high priorities identified including pickleball courts,
aquatics, a recreation center in southeast Gilbert, and more indoor fitness; medium priorities
including skate and dog parks, nature center programing, and disc golf; and lower priorities
including other courts and fields, meetings rooms, and picnic shelters. He reviewed
programming, an activities assessment, and enrollment numbers for residents and non-
residents.
Facilitator Lehrman discussed the impressive numbers, then asked about risks, stresses,
and vulnerabilities. Director Carmona discussed how in challenging times people actually
turned more toward community programs, which he said was wonderful but did tax the
system more.
Councilmember Koprowski discussed risk with the numbers showing that 33% of
programming was for children ages 7-12 years old and how they were going to be teens
soon. Councilmember Torgeson agreed and asked what could be done; he also asked about
cost-recovery for programming. Town Manager Banger discussed challenges with
programming for teens and revenue streams.
Councilmember Buchli stated there had been some safety issues at Freestone Park. Director
Carmona discussed the work of park rangers there and said that usage of amenities also
aided in finding and resolving issues. Councilmember Buchli stated she wanted to make
sure the Town was staying on top of those issues.
Vice Mayor Tilque congratulated the Parks and Recreation team, then discussed full
enrollment and suggested that perhaps non-residents went on the waiting list. She noted
how everyone wanted more pool usage, then discussed working with HOA’s.
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4. Known Capital Project Needs, Part I
Police Chief Soelberg highlighted some of the known Capital Improvement Plan (CIP) needs.
He discussed collaborating with the Fire and Parks and Recreation Departments as well with
community events, initiatives, and operations. He highlighted that the three departments
received an autism certification and that the Public Safety Training Facility (PSTF) was one
of the best examples of integrated relationship with Parks, Police, and Fire. He discussed
the aging of facilities, planning for the future, and the facility and space needs assessment.
Parks and Recreation Director Carmona discussed growth and expansion, including the
Gilbert Regional Park, Desert Sky Park, and the Riparian Education Center. He highlighted
what every day users were looking for.
Fire Chief Duggan discussed different projects that needed either renovation, a remodel, or
to be rebuilt. He highlighted the Fire Administration Remodel, stating currently Fire
Administration staff were working out of the PSTF, which was not a long term solution. He
described the project and square footage, noting the task of trying to maximize that square
footage and having the proper scope for design. He discussed the Fire Station 4 rebuild,
stating it was built in 1999 based on the data they had at the time, but there was not enough
room for additional staff. He highlighted the Fire Fleet Building at the South Area Service
Center (SASC) that did not have enough space, large apparatus bays, or parking. He
discussed lack of funding for their needs and the possibilities of alternate funding.
Director Carmona discussed one of their top requests, to have a recreation center in southern
Gilbert and for year-round access and amenities. He noted requests for water amenities
and intergovernmental agreements (IGA’s) with schools for their swimming pools that limited
availability for pool rentals. He also discussed multi-use paths and trails with challenges
and request to connect the paths.
Police Chief Soelberg discussed the crime lab with potential partnerships. He highlighted
the importance of the project to process evidence in an efficient manner, adding current
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partners did a great job but took longer because they serviced the entire state. He discussed
current restrictions with processing Deoxyribonucleic Acid (DNA) for property crimes
because there was too much volume. He said Gilbert started looking at options and potential
cities to partner with, adding that Chandler used bond money to start building their own
recently, so they were now out of the partnership possibilities. He discussed efforts to try to
gauge size and needs, adding staff would provide more information to the Council on size
and cost in an upcoming workshop in December 2023. He voiced plans for the Advocacy
Center and the need to focus on counseling and aftercare as well after touring other facilities
and doing research. He said there was not enough money to complete the project so it was
now being considered in two phases; Phase 1 would be advocacy and aftercare including
victim advocates and counselors. He spoke of designing Phase 1 with growth and long-term
vision in mind. He noted if they had to add another building beyond Phase 1 and Phase 2,
it would require a parking garage. He discussed the Public Safety Building Expansion and
how they had utilized the insufficient space there, including how the departments rotated
space for their staff. He also discussed the San Tan Police Station at SASC and how there
was not enough space there, noting possibilities for repurposing the site. Lastly, he
discussed the possibility of a Police Community Office at the Heritage District with bike
teams and how it could benefit that area as a whole.
5. Known Capital Project Needs, Part II
Parks and Recreation Director Carmona discussed Freestone Park Improvements and the
need for more infrastructure. He highlighted how participants had to travel far for amenities
and programming. He discussed limitations with courts, fields, and other amenities including
the popularity with pickleball. He said the Department hosted a national pickleball
tournament for the deaf recently. He discussed the high demand for ballfields and then
noted the plans for Veterans Park improvements including a future monument installation.
He noted the desire for an all-abilities playground enhancement. He said that Nichols Park
was closed due to the water treatment plant reconstruction but noted it had previously been
reserved often for cricket, then added that park was difficult to get to so they wanted to
address accessibility when the park was reopened. He discussed the need to add lighting
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and connect trails in Gilbert for convenience and safety, stating that many of the trails went
dark when someone arrived in Gilbert.
Fire Chief Duggan discussed needed renovations for Fire Stations 2, 8, 6, and 5 and how
those were prioritized. He said they were all built for eight bedrooms but now 10 were
needed. He also noted the importance of converting the bathrooms to individual rooms
instead of male and female ones. He then spoke of the Fire Station 11 renovation and
remodel with an increased scope including the need for a fuel station, stating it would be
prioritized down the line because it was not as busy. Lastly he stated Fire Stations 1 and 3
would need to be renovated for the conversions of the restrooms. He highlighted fire stations
anticipated deployment needs, concerns, shifting demographics in the workforce, timeline,
and next steps.
Facilitator Lehrman reminded everyone that they were just providing a preview of the
projects. Vice Mayor Tilque stated it would come down to hard decisions with dollars and
priorities, noting that her top priority was the Family Advocacy Center. Town Manger Banger
thanked the CIP and Budget Teams for their work.
6. Priorities and Themes Review
Town Manager Banger summarized the themes from the Spring Financial Retreat and the
identified priorities and provided the following recap:
Budget and CIP Process Overview
Understand prioritization of projects and identified needs; noting the upcoming
workshop on December 11, 2023
Evaluate how best to utilize the Public Works Advisory Board for the CIP program
Not lose sight of smaller projects that would have a big impact in community
General Fund CIP Funding Shortfall
Compare peer agencies regionally and nationally, evaluate revenue streams
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Utility Rates
Bring forward the Cash Funded and Cash/Bond Gradual Funded Options for Water
and the proposed rates for Solid Waste and Recycling
Be clear on the “why” messaging for the increase
Provide comparisons with peer communities
Community Preservation Ordinance
Staff to prepare the Ordinance with the additional direction from the Council
Include information on additional resources for residents
Develop formalized process to prevent abuse of reporting, include this with presented
Ordinance
Provide examples of nuisance or non-conforming use with understanding that there
may be need for some case-by-case basis evaluation
Review ordinance for clarity
Employee Benefits
Staff had evaluated post-employment access to health plan and considered matching
deferred compensation contributions
Dollars not available to fund either
Bring forward employee engagement survey to learn what staff value
Continue efforts to enhance employee benefit package
Performance Programs
Council supportive of individual Professional Development and Discretionary budgets
Staff will follow up with recommendations and best practices
Edit Council Travel and Training Policy to remove the number of trips to align with the
Discretionary Fund discussion; will bring policy language forward
Edit Office Policy regarding necessary office and staff resources
Council supportive of retroactive payments for travel and mileage reimbursements;
staff will research inaccuracies
Council supportive of future topic of Council pay and compensation
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Communications Subcommittee Report and Meeting Decorum Protocols
Council was supportive of bringing the following forward in a Study Session:
Meeting protocol
Proposed agenda language changes
Removal of Policy section on agenda
Exploring adoption of new rules of procedure
Discussing procedure for requesting new agenda items
Discussing rule of 15 minute overall time limit for public speaking in Town Code to
include amending or to begin following that Code
Removing the Board and Commission Report section from agenda; Council to provide
these reports during their individual report outs
Town Manager Banger noted the other items were an overview of the Parks and Recreation
Master Plan Update and a high-level overview of known Capital Improvement Projects. He
said the Town was doing a space needs analysis of the organization as a whole which would
include needs in Fleet, Public Works, and other areas that were not presented during the
Retreat. Councilmember Koprowski noted the Public Works Advisory Board’s
recommendation for utility rates acknowledged how the increase may have significant
financial impact on residents and staff should look for ways to connect residents with relief
or assistance.
7. Day 2 Closing Remarks – Retreat Wrap-Up
Town Manager Banger thanked those who participated in the Retreat and expressed
appreciation to Management Analyst Kiersten Begay, Assistant to the Town Manager
Jennika Horta, and the emerging leaders for their work. He also thanked Facilitator Lehrman
and the Mayor and Council for their participation.
ADJOURN
The meeting adjourned meeting at 3:21 p.m.
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ATTEST:
___________________________ ___________________________________
Brigette Peterson, Mayor Chaveli Herrera, MMC, Town Clerk
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and correct copy of the minutes of the
special meeting of the Town Council of the Town of Gilbert held on the 7th day of November,
2023. I further certify that the meeting was duly called and held and that a quorum was
present.
Dated this ____ day of ____________________.
___________________________________
Chaveli Herrera, MMC, Town Clerk
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Agenda
Council Meeting Agenda
November 7, 2023
Brigette Peterson, Mayor ● Kathy Tilque, Vice Mayor
Scott Anderson ● Chuck Bongiovanni ● Bobbi Buchli ●Yung Koprowski ● Jim Torgeson
Members may attend in person or by telephone.
Fall Council Retreat - Day 2
8:30 AM
Southeast Regional Library
775 N Greenfield Road
Gilbert, Arizona or
STREAM LIVE HERE
AGENDA ITEMS MAY BE DISCUSSED IN A DIFFERENT SEQUENCE.
ITEMS WILL NOT BE DISCUSSED PRIOR TO POSTED MEETING TIME.
PLEASE NOTE: There will not be an opportunity for public comment or communications from citizens
during the Council Retreat.
CALL TO ORDER
WELCOME AND OPENING REMARKS
AGENDA ITEMS
There will be presentations, discussion, and possible direction on the following items:
1 Council Financial Policies
2 Communications Subcommittee Report Out and Meeting Decorum Protocols
3 Parks and Recreation Master Plan Update
4 Known Capital Project Needs, Part I
5 Known Capital Project Needs, Part II
6 Priorities and Themes Review
7 Day 2 Closing Remarks - Retreat Wrap-Up
ADJOURN
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