Council Subcommittee
Regular MeetingGilbert, AZ · September 24, 2019
Minutes
MINUTES OF THE GILBERT COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEE ON LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE,
SEPTEMBER 24, 2019, AT 7:00 A.M., ROOM 100, 90 EAST CIVIC CENTER DRIVE,
GILBERT, 24ARIZONA
COUNCIL PRESENT: Chair Brigette Peterson, Vice Mayor Eddie Cook and
Councilmember Jordan Ray
COUNCIL ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Town Clerk Lisa Maxwell, Planning Manager Eva Cutro,
Senior Planner Amy Temes, Inspections Supervisor Lorrie
DeOrio and Development Services Engineer Tom Condit
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Peterson called the meeting to order at 7:03 a.m.
AGENDA ITEMS
1. Approval of the minutes of the September 9, 2019 meeting.
Town Clerk Maxwell noted a change in the minutes where agenda item 3 was
mislabeled as agenda item 4.
A MOTION was made by Vice Mayor Cook, seconded by Councilmember Ray, to approve
the minutes of the September 9, 2019 meeting with the change to the agenda item
number. Motion carried 3-0.
2. Review of previous discussions.
Senior Planner Temes described the method she uses to track the items requiring
additional research. She keeps a spreadsheet which includes information on the people
contacted and information collected.
Section 2.1 Single Family Residential Districts – Three foot Stagger:
Chandler: Staggers the front yard setback lines to achieve a range of six feet or
more.
Mesa: No more than 50 percent of homes will be set back the same distance
from the front lot line and at least 50 percent of the homes will be set back at
least two feet farther than the minimum. This is difficult to track and developers
often end up asking for relief.
Casa Grande: Stagger the front setbacks by at least three feet and every third or
fourth setback must be staggered.
No requirements: Queen Creek; Peoria; Scottsdale; Colorado Springs, Colorado;
Henderson, Nevada; and Mobile, Alabama. With the introduction of side garages
there has more variation in setbacks. When all the garages are forward-facing it
is helpful to have stagger.
The Land Development Code (LDC) can be left as it is with three foot incremental
stagger. Senior Planner Temes said the problems arise when builders do not round to
whole numbers and they are at the point of building out the final 20 percent of the
houses.
The other issue that needs to be addressed is there is no definition of stagger and that
needs to be added. Stagger is to vary front yard setbacks in increments so that no more
than two homes in a row have the same setback.
There was a question about Morrison Ranch. Senior Planner Temes said she believed
their ordinance was amended to address setbacks. She said at The Bridges their
ordinance was amended and they were provided administrative relief. Inspections
Supervisor DeOrio said she sees very few setback issues, especially in front yards.
There was discussion about how all this information is recorded. Senior Planner Temes
said the Techs take the development plan and mark on the plat the setbacks and
elevations for each house. Using whole numbers would simplify the process for the
Techs. Chair Peterson asked if this was still much of an issue. Senior Planner Temes said
it mainly comes up when there are bigger homes that do have side garages.
It was decided to use whole numbers for the varying setbacks and add the definition of
a setback.
Section 2.1 Single Family Residential Districts – Additional Lot Coverage to Encourage
Reinvestment/Redevelopment:
Senior Planner Temes said this is mainly a concern in older parts of Town where there
are no Homeowners’ Associations (HOAs). The goal is for people to improve their
homes. She said she was unable to find this addressed in the LDC of any other cities.
Senior Planner Temes did find several ways other cities do encourage improvements:
Special Improvement or Redevelopment Districts are created to revitalize or
improve older areas.
Most cities apply for grants for neighborhood improvements or home owner
incentives.
Facade Improvement Programs.
Fees Waived in Designated Districts.
Could not find any communities that had special provisions in zoning for existing
homeowner reinvestment.
Face updates funded through a community tax fund. This is for front facades and
not for inside the house or back yard improvements.
Vice Mayor Cook said he liked the idea of waiving of the permit fees. Chair Peterson
suggested having the program rotate by addressing one neighborhood for twelve
months and then another neighborhood twelve months later. This could also be applied
to the businesses in the Fiesta Tech district. Do it for businesses in Fiesta Tech. Senior
Planner Temes said a sliding improvement district could be implemented with a Planned
Area Development (PAD) overlay. This could allow for some flexibility to setbacks and
lot coverage.
Inspections Supervisor DeOrio mentioned homeowners do have some access to help
from the Community Development Program. There are other grants and a facelift fund
could be set up for the Northwest Corridor. Vice Mayor Cook said he will have this
added to a future Council meeting agenda. Doralise Liddell, Gilbert resident, said the
program needs to go further to incentivize people to make improvements. She noted
many of the residents in the Heritage Districts rent their houses and are not the
homeowners.
Administrative Relief:
Senior Planner Temes said she gets about 5 requests a year. Something went wrong in
the building process or fence was erected in the wrong place. An inspector might not
see the problem until after the footers have been poured and it would be an expensive
mistake to correct. There are few cities that list their procedures:
Queen Creek – 10% if existing requirement
Peoria – 5% of existing requirement
Jackson WY – 20% of existing requirement
Senior Planner Temes said she would like the following to be considered:
25% of a dimensional requirement (i.e. a setback);
10% of a quantity (i.e. parking); and
relief provided would be at the Planning Manager’s discretion.
There was consensus to allow relief be at the Planning Manager’s discretion.
Development Services Engineer Condit said it is important to look for a pattern in
request from particular builders. Senior Planner Temes said request in the past had
come from different builders and different projects.
Section 2.1 Single Family Residential Districts – Casitas and Secondary Dwellings:
Senior Planner Temes said these are not the same as accessory structures. She said
these can be moved to that section and be denoted as being occupied and non-
occupied. She is going to work to see LDC is using the same language as the Building
Code and Code Compliance.
Councilmember Ray left the meeting.
Currently, the Town allows one guest house and one accessory structure. There are also
some limitations on the size of those structures. The following are the requirements
from neighboring cities:
Phoenix: allows for one guest house which must be attached to primary
structure with a maximum of 900 square feet.
Peoria: there is no maximum on the number of guest houses on a property. It is
considered an accessory structure and it has no maximum amount of square
feet.
Scottsdale: allows for one guest houses which is not an accessory structure and it
can be up to half the square footage of the main house.
Chandler: allows one guest house which is considered an accessory use and it is
an accessory structure. There is no maximum amount of square footage.
Queen Creek: there is no maximum on the number of guest houses on a
property. It is considered an accessory structure and it has no maximum amount
of square feet.
Mesa: allows for one guest house which can be up to 30 percent of the square
footage of the main house.
A casita has no kitchen and it cannot be rented. People are adding kitchens after the
building has been inspected. Senior Planner Temes would like to combine these
together. If a casita is being rented as a vacation home why can it not be rented to a
person.
Senior Planner Temes mentioned she has a 1,200 square foot apartment over her
garage with an attached workshop and a basement. Not all of the area is livable.
Inspections Supervisor DeOrio said a secondary unit should not take up more than half
of a lot. There could be exceptions in the Downtown area.
Senior Planner Temes said it is important to look at the calculation for storm water
runoff that needs to be considered when looking at lot coverage. Vice Mayor Cook
asked if that the runoff calculations could be added to the LDC. Development Services
Engineer Condit will do some more research on this. Senior Planner Temes will add
some language about storm water and having only one structure per lot. There was a
question about how the City of Chandler gets around the storm water issue when they
do not limit the size of secondary structures. Planning Manager Cuatro said in Paradise
Valley the total square footage of all accessory structures cannot be more than half the
total square footage of the main house. The main house determines the main use of the
lot.
Senior Planner Temes will bring back some different scenarios. She will also check with
the City of Chandler for some examples and look at the number of requests received for
these structures. This generally only affects larger lots. There was consensus to allow
kitchens and to call a guest house an accessory dwelling.
Section 4.1 Site Regulations:
Senior Planner Temes said things have been moved into this section and cross
references and tables have been added. This has cut down on inconsistencies in the
LDC. She is meeting with the Building Inspection Department and Code Compliance and
she will cross-reference the LDC with the Municipal Code. These are the additions:
Encroachments into Building Setback and Interior Building Separation Areas
Projections Above Height Limits
Accessory Structures
Non-occupied Accessory Structures
Occupied Accessory Structures
Animals
Recreation Courts and Fields
Model Home Complexes
Swimming Pools
Lighting
Walls and Fences
Refuse and Recycling
Service Areas
Mechanical Equipment
Underground Utilities
Outdoor Business Storage
Outdoor Retail Sales and Merchandise Display (vending machines, outdoor
displays)
Personal Property Storage (mini storage)
Fueling Facilities
Section 2.2 Multi-Family Residential:
Senior Planner Temes said only Scottsdale lists a minimum lot size. This can be removed
and it will not change anything.
Section 2.3 Commercial:
Stacked Cars – There are accessory structures since they are permanently
anchored into the ground. Chair Peterson noted that the property Vice Mayor
Cook had referred to was previous County property and it was grand-fathered in.
Drive Through Canopies – Mesa and Scottsdale refer these and in other cities
they are highly encouraged and considered “necessary for climate control.”
Senior Planner Temes said it has been an unwritten rule in Gilbert and she would
like to add it to the LDC. It is more expensive if the is added after the building is
completed. Chair Peterson said these canopies are necessary for Arizona.
Outdoor Business Property – Senior Planner Temes could not find an instance
where any jurisdiction addressed this in Zoning.
Dimensions and Stories – Phoenix does list bother dimensions and stories while
other cities just list one or the other. Chair Peterson said she finds both are
useful and dimensions are more helpful when talking with residents about
projects.
The next meeting will be on October 15, 2019 at 7:00 a.m. in Municipal Center II, Room
236.
ADJOURN
Chair Peterson adjourned the meeting at 8:06 a.m.
ATTEST:
___________________________ ___________________________________
Chair Brigette Peterson Lisa Maxwell, MMC, Town Clerk
Agenda
Subcommittee on Land Development Code
9/24/2019 7:00:00 AM
Municipal Center II, Room 100
Gilbert, Arizona
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CALL TO ORDER
AGENDA ITEMS
1. Approval of the minutes of the September 9, 2019 meeting.
2. Review of previous discussions.
ADJOURN
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