Council Subcommittee
Regular MeetingGilbert, AZ · March 29, 2023
Minutes
MINUTES OF THE GILBERT TOWN COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEE ON CODE OF ETHICS, IN SPECIAL
MEETING OF WEDNESDAY, MARCH 29, 2023 AT 2:00 P.M., GILBERT MUNICIPAL CENTER I,
COMMUNITY ROOM 202, 50 E CIVIC CENTER DRIVE, GILBERT, ARIZONA
COUNCIL PRESENT: Subcommittee Chair Scott Anderson, Vice Mayor Kathy Tilque
and Councilmember Jim Torgeson
COUNCIL ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Town Attorney Chris Payne, Town Manager Patrick Banger,
Town Clerk Chaveli Herrera, and Council Aide Monica
D'Ortenzio
CALL TO ORDER
Town Clerk Herrera called the meeting to order at 2:04 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Town Clerk Herrera called roll and declared a quorum present.
AGENDA ITEMS
1. Consider approval of the minutes of the Subcommittee on Code of Ethics Meeting of March 8,
2023.
A MOTION was made by Vice Mayor Tilque, seconded by Councilmember Torgeson to approve
the minutes of the Subcommittee on Code of Ethics Meeting of March 8, 2023. Motion carried 3-
0.
2. Discussion on Code of Ethics Policy and process.
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Vice Mayor Tilque thanked Town Attorney Payne for capturing the information from the last meeting
and expressed her appreciation in seeing how other municipalities handled Ethics complaint polices
and processes. She stated that she liked the idea of a handbook and enjoyed the format used by
the City of Phoenix. She spoke in support of a handbook outlining the entire process and stated the
current ethics policy was not very clear and covered other areas. She said the City of Phoenix’s
handbook laid out the different complaints and issues and then outlined the process for each. She
talked about the importance of separating Council directives and State Law. She said she would
also like to see decorum added so that there was only one place that people had to go if they felt
something was violated. She talked about being consistent as a Council in reviewing Financial
Policies and shared that she felt the same should apply in looking at other policies. She discussed
the possibility of an annual review process.
Chair Anderson asked for clarification on whether the possible Ethics Commission would have any
hand in the reviewing process to which Vice Mayor Tilque confirmed she felt they would and outlined
the intent that the Commission could review based on activity seen throughout the year.
Councilmember Torgeson spoke of possible concern in outlining all complaint processes in one
place when they are very different items and provided an example of an Open Meeting Law
complaint versus an Ethics Complaint and confusion to the residents. Vice Mayor Tilque re-
emphasized the intent being more than just Open Meeting Law and elaborated. She talked about
the new process eliminating the need for staff to continuously review processes each time an event
occurred. Chair Anderson spoke in agreement with having everything in one place and asked Town
Attorney Payne if the direction discussed aligned with his thoughts on the process. Town Attorney
Payne expressed the need to define what was relevant to include when speaking about the Ethics
process and provided examples. There was discussion from the subcommittee on the need to clarify
other areas, particularly Open Meeting Law and what Council can and cannot do; an example was
given related to adding an item to an agenda.
Vice Mayor Tilque emphasized the handbook being a resource for the public but also for the Council
and discussed the importance of clarifying areas of confusion to avoid overstepping. Chair Anderson
spoke in agreement and stated he would not want anyone to be fearful in the ability to conduct
themselves as a Councilmember and spoke in agreement to additional clarity. Vice Mayor Tilque
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stated she felt the document should be an electronic document. Town Clerk Herrera asked for
clarification if the intent was to include the ethics process in the existing Council Handbook and
explained that two separate handbooks existed, one specifically for Council and one for Boards and
Commissions. There was discussion on whether it should be a stand-alone handbook and Town
Clerk Herrera stated she would bring back information on the content of both handbooks for review.
Vice Mayor Tilque discussed areas covered by the current Ethics Policy and stated that in her review
she added information on items that had come up but were missed. She spoke of the importance
of the public understanding what was outlined and shared that she felt the current ethics policy was
very grey and anything could fall under those provisions if a good case was made. She spoke in
support of looking at it as three different areas: State Law, Council directive and ethics, and the way
meetings are conducted, which was being worked on by the Communications Subcommittee. She
discussed combining efforts.
Vice Mayor Tilque began reviewing the different sections of the new drafted policy, sections 1
through 3 based off direction from the previous meeting and provided recommendations on changes
to include further clarification on different areas. She asked if section 3.5 regarding Gifts was policy
or State Law and explained that other municipalities handled it differently. Town Attorney Payne
confirmed that it was not State Law but was adopted by Council and could be modified. Voce Mayor
Tilque recommended separating all areas that were State Law from those which were directed by
Council. She talked about the need to clarify when a Councilmember may be representing
themselves as individuals versus as a Councilmember and representative of the Town.
Councilmember Torgeson spoke in agreement and provided a recent example.
Councilmember Torgeson began discussing an Ethics Commission and the Subcommittee
members began reviewing the proposed process involving such Commission, including information
on precinct members, residency requirements and criteria of members. Vice Mayor Tilque discussed
the importance in having members who had experience and expertise in mediation and ethics. She
stated that the expertise portion was a priority over residency and Chair Anderson stated that he
felt there would not be an issue with finding that level of expertise and level of experience within
the community. Chair Anderson stated that the Subcommittee members had to remember that this
Commission would have to follow the same process as others, and they would be Advisory with the
final decision being that of Council.
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Vice Mayor Tilque discussed the Chair being a mediator and there was further discussion on
member criteria and minimum qualifications. Town Attorney Payne provided information on City of
Scottsdale’s process and stated that more restrictions limit the scope of potential members and
asked what the Subcommittee would be looking for specifically. Vice Mayor Tilque talked about
potentially looking at Attorneys, Judges, Human Resources (HR) Professionals, and being a mediator
or being able to seek training as one, and two citizens. Chair Anderson expressed his preference to
keep a residency requirement since it was a smaller board and Councilmember Torgeson talked
about qualifications involving secondary education and certifications. There was additional
discussion on possible member requirements, annual reporting of the Commission and the
importance of mediation being a mandatory step in the process.
Vice Mayor Tilque suggested the title of the Handbook to be “Reporting Violations and Procedures”
or similar and talked about the forms being linked within the document for accessibility. She re-
emphasized the importance of mediation and asked what potential penalties looked like for the new
process. There was discussion on potential penalties for anyone refusing mediation and stated that
mediation should be scheduled within 10 business days with penalties beginning on day 11 if not
scheduled at the rate of $50 per day and the allowance of one reschedule. There was discussion
on the process on the allowable timeline to report a complaint from the date of occurrence. There
was additional discussion on possible edits to the policy and complaint process. Chair Anderson
asked if the appropriate changes were made, if the current policy should remain to which Vice
Mayor Tilque spoke in disagreement and talked about the importance of a new process that was
understandable to residents and Council.
3. Discussion on next steps.
Town Attorney Payne will work on drafting a Handbook based on the direction and discussion of
the Subcommittee. Town Clerk Herrera will bring forward the current Council Handbook and Board
and Commission Handbook for review.
4. Action Items
a) Set dates for future subcommittee meetings
b) other action items as assigned
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The next Subcommittee meeting was scheduled for April 19, 2023 at 1:00 pm
ADJOURN
Subcommittee Chair Anderson adjourned the meeting at 4:04 p.m.
ATTEST:
___________________________ ___________________________________
Scott Anderson, Chair Chaveli Herrera, Town Clerk
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and correct copy of the minutes of the special
meeting of the Subcommittee on Code of Ethics of the Town of Gilbert held on the 29th day of
March, 2023. I further certify that the meeting was duly called and held and that a quorum was
present.
Dated this ____ day of ____________________2023.
___________________________________
Chaveli Herrera, Town Clerk
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Agenda
Council Subcommittee on Code of Ethics
3/29/2023 2:00 PM
Municipal Center I, Community Room 202
Gilbert, Arizona
MEMBERS MAY ATTEND IN PERSON OR BY TELEPHONE
CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
AGENDA ITEMS
1. Consider approval of the minutes of the Subcommittee on Code of Ethics Meeting of
March 8, 2023.
2. Discussion on Code of Ethics Policy and process.
3. Discussion on next steps.
4. Action Items
a) Set dates for future subcommittee meetings
b) other action items as assigned
ADJOURN
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