City Council
Regular MeetingGroveport, OH · July 2, 2021
Minutes
City of Groveport
655 Blacklick St.
Groveport, OH 43125
614.830.2052
www.groveport.org
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Meeting Minutes
Friday, July 2, 2021
4:30 PM
"Special Meeting"
Council Chambers
City Council
Mayor Lance Westcamp
Council Members - Jean Ann Hilbert, Ed Dildine, Shawn Cleary, Becky Hutson, Scott
Lockett & John Hougland
City Council Meeting Minutes July 2, 2021
I. Call to Order
by Mayor Lance Westcamp at 4:30 p.m.
Staff Present: BJ King - Administrator, Kevin Shannon - Law Director,
Jason Carr - Director of Finance, Casey Adams - Chief of Police
Lieutenant Josh Short, Detective Josh Gilbert, Officer Ernie Bell and
Officer Sam Yockey
Guests Present: The Guest Book is on file with the Clerk of Council.
II. Roll Call
Absent: 1 - Edward Dildine
Present: 5 - Shawn M. Cleary, Jean Ann Hilbert, John Hougland, Becky Hutson, and
Scott Lockett
III. Topic to be Discussed.
A. Incident at Outdoor Aquatic Center and Potential Action.
Law Director Kevin Shannon commented that as Council is aware the
City has had some very unfortunate incidents at the City's beloved
Recreational Center, specifically at the Outdoor Aquatic Park, in the
last month. There was an incident again last Wednesday evening
(June 30, 2021) and as such, after consultation with the Administrator
and the Mayor, they felt the need to have this meeting this evening. Mr.
Shannon reported that present at this meeting is Detective Josh
Gilbert. The four suspects have been identified with respect to the
incident on Wednesday afternoon. The City does expect juvenile
charges to be filed out of the incident. There are a few more things that
need wrapped up in the investigation, and as such, further details can’t
be given at this point. Once the investigation is concluded and charges
are in fact filed, further information can be released. He gave
accolades to Detective Gilbert, who for the last 16 hours, has been
non-stop since this incident occurred. The City Administration
appreciates his and the Groveport Police Department’s efforts in
bringing this to a resolution. However, the City has an issue at the
Aquatic Center. About three and a half weeks ago, the Aquatic Center
had an incident with a gentleman who was intoxicated, who was
subsequently charged with criminal trespassing and menacing and
may be facing an assault charge as well. For these reasons the
Administrator and the Chief of Police requested that Council consider
making a motion as to the current operations at the Outdoor Aquatic
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Jodi Hoel - 297 Walnut Street
Jodi Hoel addressed the recent attack on the female lifeguard at the
Groveport Outdoor Aquatic Center. The incident was a tragedy for not
only the young lady who was so viciously attacked, but for all of the
good citizens and members of our established community. The
incident was shocking to say the least, but given the recent influx of out
of town patrons to the Groveport Outdoor Aquatic Center, it shouldn’t be
all that surprising. With the current social climate of early prison and jail
releases on the rise, no bonds being set or placed on violent criminals,
a general lack of respect toward police and authority figures, incidents
like this are bound to happen with increased frequency. Mrs. Hoel and
her husband moved to Groveport about a year and a half ago falling in
love with the quaintness and the hometown feel. They immediately
joined the Groveport Recreation Center and after the COVID
restrictions lifted, the Aquatic Center as well. After waiting for over a
year to be able to enjoy the beautiful facility they were excited to finally
relax and enjoy new friends and neighbors at the outdoor pool. Their
first visit there, they spent their time observing the overwhelmed
lifeguards, most all of whom you know are young teenagers. The
lifeguards were blowing their whistles nonstop and were being
completely ignored by parents who obviously had no intention of
following the posted and repeated rules announced over the PA
system. Mrs. Hoel had spoken to many other residents who feel that
City Council needs to not only take immediate action, but needs to
return the Groveport pool to its former status of Groveport residents
only pool. She is quite certain that for revenue purposes the Council
would veto such a request. She asked Council to consider to at least
make day passes a thing of the past and to require all patrons to
purchase annual passes being a member or a non-member but to
increase the non-member’s rate. She and her husband would be willing
to pay a higher rate if it would keep the community safe. She has
observed that many of the vehicles in the parking lot have out of
county, such as Cleveland, Pickaway and Medina counties, and some
out-of-state license plates. She stated that something is bringing them
to the Groveport Outdoor Aquatic Center and it’s driving Groveport
residents to leave the pool. She humbly asked that City Council
consider her request for she asks not only for herself but on behalf of
many of her neighbors and other guests. She thanked the Mayor and
City Council for their time.
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Wayne White - 475 Elm Street
Wayne White addressed Council on the recent incidents noting that
Jodi Hoel pretty much hit all the highlights of his concerns. He had
hoped to speak after Council had made a decision. He hopes Council
really listens to the residents, this is their community. Maybe the day
passes need to go away as Mrs. Hoel suggested. His wife has gone to
the pool only to wait for an hour to get in the Aquatic Center. He has
spoken to other people about coolers being brought into the pool, and
some have witnessed alcohol like wine and beer being drank. He
doesn’t know if Council listens to Facebook but many are tired of the
situation and say they are done. Mr. White hopes Council listens and
decides to make the pool a little safer. He doesn’t know if residents only
is possible but just remember, he was told a long time ago by his
Director when he worked in recreation, that recreation isn’t profit,
recreation is for the residents after they worked all week and all day to
enjoy themselves. They paid for it. We are not trying to make money off
of recreation or we shouldn’t be.
Guy Mace - Groveport Outdoor Aquatic Center Lifeguard
Guy Mace came to speak to the citizens and those Council Members
who were unable to attend the meeting with Administrator BJ King,
Mayor Westcamp, Chief Adams and Law Director Kevin Shannon.
They talked with the lifeguards and the lifeguards gave them some
suggestions. He reiterated those suggestions for those who were not at
that meeting and addressed a few points mentioned by others tonight.
· More cameras in the breezeway of the Outdoor Aquatic Center
· Possibly assign a special duty officer to be there at all times or
at the most problematic times at the pool. Most problems at the
pool are between 4 pm to 7 pm
· The last two incidents occurred within the last thirty minutes of
the pool being open.
· Alcohol is down this year, staff as not seen nearly as much as in
prior years.
· Cameras in the parking lots
As a lifeguard he feels fairly safe but having two incidents in the last
couple of weeks is pretty crazy. It is not an every person thing, it is out of
the norm. The lifeguards love seeing the people at the pool. He would
advise against restricting admission to just residents or members.
They love seeing all the people at the pool and they can handle that.
There have even been members and residents thrown out of the
outdoor pool, so it is not just an outside person thing. Guy thanked
everyone and the Mayor thanked him for coming to the meeting and for
the record stated that Guy Mace does not live in the City of Groveport.
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Mr. Shannon commented that the input from the lifeguards was very
helpful.
Mr. Shannon stated that Administration has had multiple discussions
and they did go out to the Outdoor Aquatic Center today and met with
the lifeguards, the Aquatic Center’s managers and Kyle Lund the
Recreation Director, to try to take some pretty proactive measures to
implement immediately.
Mr. Shannon read the motion text for Council’s consideration:
After careful consideration, and a review of the events that occurred at
the Outdoor Aquatic Center in the last month, the Mayor, City Council,
City Administrator, and Chief of Police have deemed it necessary to take
the following actions to better assure the safety of the City’s lifeguards
and other aquatic staff at the facility:
1. Effective immediately, admission to the Outdoor Aquatic Center shall
be limited to those individuals and/or families that possess a resident or
non-resident seasonal pass.
2. The minimum age of individuals that are permitted to be at the facility
without a parent or legal guardian also present shall be 14.
3. As soon as practicable, security cameras shall be installed in the
breezeway of the facility.
4. An officer shall be assigned immediately to the Outdoor Aquatic Park
during specific timeframes as mandated by the Chief of Police after
consultation with the Mayor.
This action is subject to review and possible change after the City has
implemented the aforementioned safety measures and policies with
respect to the pool’s operation and reviewed the successfulness of such
measurers in reducing the abhorrent behavior that has taken place at the
City’s beloved recreational facility.
So with that, there would be a motion to put those four items into place.
Mayor Westcamp opened the floor for discussion.
Mr. King wanted to emphasize how much he got out of the meeting with
the lifeguards. It was very beneficial and he appreciated Guy Mace for
speaking on behalf of the lifeguards. He went into the meeting pretty
upset but on hearing the lifeguards’ professionalism and the group of
employees the City has at the Recreation Center, he was really
impressed. Speaking for the other Administrative staff present, he
thinks they all feel the same way. That being said, hearing their
perspective was important because Administration needed to identify
areas where steps need to be taken to increase safety at the Outdoor
Aquatic Center. Some have already been addressed. Jason Carr is
working next week to get the cameras installed in the breezeway so staff
knows who is coming into the Aquatic Center. Right now with the daily
passes the City doesn’t know. It is also a safety issue from the point of
transaction with people coming in and out. Lifeguards shared that
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patrons show up without parents or guardians and recommended to
avoid the whole babysitting aspect, the City could take the age limit for
entry without a parent/adult to 14 years of age. It was talked about
having a police presence at the pool during the 4 pm to 7 pm time
when much of the problems take place. The manager on duty will be at
the Aquatic Center at all times between the hours of 4 and 7 pm.
Another topic that came up was the need for training staff on how to
handle such situations. There were concerns about what an employee
can do and what they couldn’t do. Mr. King feels the City has a good
plan in place to improve the safety of the Aquatic Center. But
implementing these safety protocols will take some time. This is a good
time to take a time out. As read in the motion let’s keep it to season
pass holders, whether they are a resident or non-resident. That allows
the City to know who is coming into the pool. It will create other
problems with the day pass patrons and the10-pack day passes
already purchased. Administration will continuously evaluate the
effectiveness of these safety protocols. The City may eventually go
back to the daily passes. The City can’t put a price tag on giving its
employees and patrons a safe environment to work in. Mr. Shannon
commented the key aspect in limiting admission to season pass
holders, is that the City already has all the pertinent identification
information and a photograph which would eliminate a 16 hour
investigation trying to find out who was there and who did what.
Council Member Locket stated that number one, the City is responsible
for the mental and physical health and safety of its employees and
residents. That should be the number one priority. Secondly, the City
takes a zero tolerance for any kind of nonsense or violation of the
rules. Mr. Lockett agrees with the City having a police officer at the
outdoor pool immediately and he agrees with the cameras. One
concern he has is with the season pass holders. He has a neighbor that
he is sure is not a pass holder at the Recreation Center or the Aquatic
Center. This neighbor has his grandkids coming in tomorrow, he is a
resident, he has paid taxes, he has supported that pool with those taxes
and now he will be excluded from attending the Aquatic Center. Mr.
Lockett would like to see the residents be able to attend the pool even
though they are not season pass holders. Mr. Lockett feels the
residents are entitled to have access to the pool; they pay taxes, live
here, buy here. Mr. Lockett suggested an ID system that shows they are
a resident. Pass holders only are Mr. Lockett’s only objection to the
motion. Like Guy Mace had said, just because they are a resident
doesn’t mean they will be best behaved. If a season pass holder brings
in a guest and that guest misbehaves and action is taken against that
guest, then the pass holder is equally responsible. Mayor Westcamp
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noted that his wife, Julie, is a season pass holder and they have three
grandsons who live in Hocking County. Mrs. Westcamp has 9 or 10
daily passes. The Mayor agrees with what Council needs to do tonight
but the City needs to come up with a solution so his wife can take their
grandchildren to the pool. Mr. Lockett asked about adding
grandchildren to a family season pass. Mr. King advised that the City
can craft the policy in many different ways. It can specify the resident
pass holder as a grandparent or grandparents, can specify that the
season pass holder must accompany everyone to the pool or even if
they are not a pass holder and they have three people who want to
come with them, they would be able to buy day passes. Council
Member Cleary proposed daily passes to be given to residents only.
He agrees with Mr. Lockett, the City can’t just lock the residents without
seasonal passes out of the Aquatic Center. Council Member Hougland
wanted to know if it was generally considered that having a full-time
police officer present would solve the problem. He suggested off duty
officers could be hired; Groveport officers, Madison Township officers,
Sheriff Deputies and Columbus PD. Chief Casey Adams couldn’t
guarantee it would totally solve the problem. He noted that at the last
two incidents, officers were basically on the scene, the lifeguards
mentioned officers were there when it happened. The incidents
happened before an officer could intervene. Chief Adams cannot
mandate special duty, if an officer doesn’t want to work it, he can’t order
them to work it. That can be a problem. The news has reported that the
Columbus Recreational Department is having trouble finding officers to
work special duty; they have had to call in private security. Mr. Cleary is
all in favor of the lifeguards’ suggestion of the minimum age of
individuals without a parent or guardian being 14 years of age.
Mr. Shannon advised Council that there is a motion on the table and
they could take a roll call vote on that motion and see what happens. If
it does not pass, Mr. Shannon can make an amendment to the motion
and read through that text. Or someone could withdraw the original
motion. This a temporary measure that can be reviewed once the
measures are implemented. He understands that doesn’t do any good
for the person wanting to go to the pool tomorrow or on the 4th of July,
but it is necessary given what has been going on at the outdoor pool.
Mr. Shannon reiterated the four safety measures in the motion.
1. Effective immediately, admission to the Outdoor Aquatic Center shall
be limited to those individuals and/or families that possess a resident or
non-resident seasonal pass.
2. The minimum age of individuals that are permitted to be at the facility
without a parent or legal guardian also present shall be 14.
3. As soon as practicable, security cameras shall be installed in the
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breezeway of the facility.
4. An officer shall be assigned immediately to the Outdoor Aquatic Park
during specific timeframes as mandated by the Chief of Police after
consultation with the Mayor.
This oral motion suspends the Ordinance that is in effect now as it
relates to the Aquatic Center rates. This is an action that City Council
can take as the City Charter states by motion, ordinance or resolution.
Other points discussed were residents are still eligible to purchase
seasonal passes at a prorated cost. Jodi Hoel suggested changing the
minimum age in measure 2 from 14 to 16 years of age. That way
someone old enough to drive would have identification that could be
shown. She and her neighbors don’t want to see a lot of day passes.
She thinks if a resident really wants to go to the pool, they should have
to buy a seasonal pass. That way they can bring their grandchildren.
Mayor Westcamp commented that in his situation, for his wife to
change her seasonal pass from individual to family would not be worth
the cost because their grandchildren would only be visiting the pool 3
or 4 times a year. Mrs. Hoel noted that Groveport has folks that live
within the area moving into tons of apartments and she is not sure she
wants everyone just piling in at the pool. She knows the City is looking
at revenue, but as someone else pointed out, is revenue worth the
safety and security of the people who work at the pool and of the people
that go to the pool that live in the City. Guy White agreed with Mr.
Lockett’s suggestion of implementing an ID system for residents. He
thinks you could change the minimum age to 16 or even 15 years of
age because an individual can get a temporary learning permit at 15.
He did like the day passes being available to residents only because
out of town or state grandkids are not going to be full-time visitors to the
pool. Mr. Shannon advised that this matter will be looked over for the
next several days and will probably be on the agenda of every City
Council meeting as far as what the City will do. Again, this is a
temporary measure, it’s up to Council and any member of Council, at
any given time. At this point this is what Council has on the floor. Mrs.
Hilbert thinks this drastic measure will show people and the residents
that the City means business and will not tolerate these types of actions
any more. She thinks Council should take this motion and run with it
tonight and show the residents that Council hears them. Mayor
Westcamp thanked the speakers for coming, their input is much
appreciated and he hopes to see them back when this topic is
addressed again.
A motion was made by Council Member Hilbert, seconded by Council Member
Hutson, to put into place the following four measures:
1. Effective immediately, admission to the Outdoor Aquatic Center shall be
limited to those individuals and/or families that possess a resident or
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non-resident seasonal pass.
2. The minimum age of individuals that are permitted to be at the facility
without a parent or legal guardian also present shall be 14.
3. As soon as practicable, security cameras shall be installed in the breezeway
of the facility.
4. An officer shall be assigned immediately to the Outdoor Aquatic Park during
specific timeframes as mandated by the Chief of Police after consultation with
the Mayor.
The motion carried by the following vote:
Yes: 5- Cleary, Hilbert, Hougland, Hutson and Lockett
IV. Adjournment
A motion was made by Council Member Hougland, seconded by Council
Member Lockett, to adjourn at 5:09 p.m. The motion carried by the following
vote:
Yes: 5- Cleary, Hilbert, Hougland, Hutson and Lockett
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Lance Westcamp, Mayor
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Ruthanne Sargus Ross, CMC
Clerk of Council
PLEASE NOTE: THESE MINUTES ARE NOT VERBATIM. A RECORDING
OF THE MEETING IS AVAILABLE IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE DURING
REGULAR BUSINESS HOURS.
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655 Blacklick St.
City of Groveport Groveport, OH 43125
614.830.2052
www.groveport.org
Meeting Agenda
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City Council
Mayor Lance Westcamp
Council Members - Jean Ann Hilbert, Ed Dildine, Shawn Cleary,
Becky Hutson, Scott Lockett & John Hougland
Friday, July 2, 2021 4:30 PM Council Chambers
"Special Meeting"
I. Call to Order
II. Roll Call
III. Topic to be Discussed.
A. Incident at Outdoor Aquatic Center and Potential Action.
IV. Adjournment
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