City Council
Regular MeetingHackensack, NJ · May 19, 2020
Minutes
The Regular Meeting of the City Council of the City of Hackensack was
conducted as an Electronic Public Meeting in lieu of its in-person regular Public
Meeting previously advertised for 8:00 P.M. at the Council Chambers at
Hackensack City Hall. This Electronic Public Meeting is being held in lieu of an in-
person public meeting due to the state of emergency arising from the current
situation involving the COVID-19 Virus and to ensure the health, safety and welfare
of the public. The meeting was held on Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 7:12 P.M.
Members of the public were able to participate in the meeting by using the “Zoom”
online meeting platform. The on-line meeting was accessed using the following
Internet link: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/82528018711?
pwd=T1gwbVpLK3p3MmlMWEdYMEs5T214Zz09
The meeting was also able to be accessed by entering Zoom meeting ID number
825 2801 8711, password 023864 or by telephone by dialing 1-646-558-8656 and
entering the meeting ID.
Mayor Labrosse called the meeting to order and the City Clerk Deborah
Karlsson announced that the meeting was being held in accordance with the
Sunshine Law, notice having been published according to law, with a copy on file in
the City Clerk’s office, and a copy posted on the bulletin board in City Hall.
Attendance
Ms. Karlsson called the roll: Mayor Labrosse, Deputy Mayor Canestrino,
Deputy Mayor Sims, Councilman Battaglia and Councilwoman Von Rudenborg were
present. City Manager Ted Ehrenburg was present. City Attorney Steven Kleinman
was present. Deputy City Clerk Allison Saabye was present. CFO Jim Mangin was
present.
Flag Salute
Proclamations and Presentations
Approval of Minutes
City Manager’s Report
I would like to thank the Bergen County Administrator Tedesco and Bergen County
OEM for their joint effort on the Bergen County testing site which took place this
past week at our M&M Building. Many residents were able to be tested. We look
forward to future testing site dates. The City’s annual Memorial Day service at
Memorial Park will be pre-recorded and shared on our website in honor of our
military personnel who have died while serving in the armed forces. The normal
public event will be suspended under the current circumstance. Our 4 th of July
celebration and fireworks has been cancelled. The summer concerts have been
postponed until 2021. Also, many HACPAC events have been cancelled including
the Friday night concerts, movies in the park, yoga, and Shakespeare. Please refer
to the website for up to date information. The city splash parks will remain closed
for the summer. Our second quarter tax payment grace period has been extended
to June 1. Effective June 2, interest will revert to the statutory due date of May 1.
City Hall is closed to the public. Please utilize the drop box in tunnel area of the
parking lot for tax payments. Online payments are also accepted, check or money
order only. Police Week is a time when the country comes together to honor the
brave men and women in law enforcement who have lost their lives serving their
community. We also recognize the tremendous sacrifice that law enforcement
officers make for us every day. Thank you to the police department for its
continued efforts in keeping the city safe and secure. The City of Hackensack is
asking residents to have a say in the future of our parks and outdoor community
space. Please visit the website and share feedback via the open space recreation
plan survey. Now I would like to introduce Patrice Foresman from the Main Street
Business Alliance to introduce their budget for 2020.
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Main Street Alliance 2020 Budget – Patrice Foresman – On behalf of the
trustees of the MSBA, thank you for the opportunity to present our budget for
2020. Through the efforts of the MSBA and the partnership with the City of
Hackensack, Main Street’s future is brighter. The MSBA has nurtured the
revitalization of Hackensack’s historic retail district since 2004 and we will continue
to work diligently especially in the present to minimize the devastating effects of
COVID-19 through this year and 2021. The MSBA is steadfast in its mission to bring
our downtown to its full potential. Our proposed budget for 2020 demonstrates
clearly and firmly that the MSBA wants each and every property owner and
merchant on Main Street to recover from the pandemic with the strength and fiscal
health they need to succeed. Every line item on this budget reflects that we are
here to stand with our members and assist them in every possible way. Thank you
for your support and stewardship these past years. Together we will ensure Main
Street’s recovery and redevelopment as we welcome new residents and ever-
expanding business community.
Budget Amendment Hearing - CFO Jim Mangin
CFO Jim Mangin – Tonight we will have the hearing on budget amendment which
was passed at the last meeting. The amendment had to do with the amount of
debt service that we had allocated for interest payment in parking utility which
was the only thing of substance in the amendment. Later tonight, in the business
portion, the Mayor and Council will vote to either adopt the budget or amend it.
A motion to open the meeting to the public was offered by Deputy Mayor
Canestrino and seconded by Deputy Mayor Sims.
No one wished to speak. A motion to close the meeting to the public was offered
by Deputy Mayor Canestrino and seconded by Deputy Mayor Sims.
Resolutions
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CITY OF HACKENSACK
RESOLUTION NO. 194-20
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ADOPTION OF
2020 MUNICIPAL BUDGET
BE IT RESOLVED, by the Mayor and Council of the City of Hackensack,
County of Bergen that the budget hereinbefore set forth is hereby adopted and
shall constitute an appropriation for the purposes stated of the sums therein set
forth as appropriations and authorizations of the amount of:
$85,391,072.94 (Item 2 below) for municipal purposes, and
$277,204.62 (Budget Sheet 43) for Open Space Trust Fund Levy, and
$1,983,715.060 (Item 5 below) Minimum Library Tax
SUMMARY OF REVENUES
1. General Revenues
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Surplus Anticipated $ 4,000,000.00
Miscellaneous Revenue Anticipated $17,139,449.24
Receipts from Delinquent Taxes $ 0.00
2. Amount to be Raised by Taxation for Municipal Purposes
(Item 6(a), Sheet 11) $85,391,072.94
5. Amount to be Raised by Taxation – Minimum Library Levy
$ 1,983,715.06
Total Revenues: $108,514,237.24
SUMMARY OF APPROPRIATIONS
GENERAL APPROPRIATIONS
Within “CAPS”
(a&b) Operations including Contingent $76,913,303.00
(e) Deferred Charges and Statutory $ 10,718,056.00
Excluded From “CAPS”
(a) Operations – excluded from “CAPS” $ 9,204,905.24
(c) Capital Improvements $ 400,000.00
(d) Municipal Debt Service $ 9,539,573.00
(e) Deferred Charges – Municipal $ 238,400.00
(m) Reserve for Uncollected Taxes $ 1,500,000.00
Total Appropriations: $108,514,237.24
It is hereby certified that the within budget is a true copy of the budget
finally adopted by resolution of the Governing Body on the 19th day of May
2020. It is further certified that each item of revenue and appropriation is set
forth in the same amount and by the same title as appeared in the 2020
approved budget and all amendments thereto, if any, which have been
previously approved by the Director of Local Government Services.
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CITY OF HACKENSACK
RESOLUTION NO. 195-20
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY OF HACKENSACK TAX
COLLECTOR TO PREPARE AND MAIL ESTIMATED TAX BILLS IN
ACCORDANCE WITH P.L. 1994 C.72
WHEREAS, the City of Hackensack has adopted its calendar year 2020
budget, and the Bergen County Board of Taxation is unable to certify the
City's tax rate at this time, and the City of Hackensack Tax Collector may be
unable to mail the City's 2020 3rd and 4th quarter tax bills on a timely basis;
and
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WHEREAS, the City of Hackensack Tax Collector in consultation with the
Chief Financial Officer has computed an estimated tax levy in accordance
with N.J.S.A. 54:4-66.3, and they have signed a certification showing the tax
levies for the previous year, the tax rates and the range of permitted
estimated tax levies; and
WHEREAS, in accordance with Chapter 72, P.L. 1994, the Mayor and Council
of the City of Hackensack requests the Director of the Division of Local
Government Services to approve the estimated tax levy not exceeding the
105% listed below. Approval will enable the City to meet its financial
obligations, maintain the tax collection rate, provide uniformity for tax
payments and save the unnecessary cost of interest on borrowing,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Mayor and Council of the City
of Hackensack, in the County of Bergen, State of New Jersey on this 19 TH day
of May, 2020, as follows:
1. The City of Hackensack's Tax Collector is hereby authorized and directed
to prepare and issue estimated tax bills for the City for the third installment
of 2020 taxes. The Tax Collector shall proceed upon approval from the
Director and take such actions as are permitted and required by P.L. 1993,
c.72 (N.J.S.A. 54:4-66.2 and 54:4-66.3).
2. The entire estimated tax levy for 2020 is hereby set at $186,986,616.43.
3. In accordance with law, the third installment of 2020 taxes shall not be
subject to interest until the later of August 10 or the twenty-fifth day after
the date the estimated tax bills were mailed. The estimated tax bills shall
contain a notice specifying the date on which interest may begin to accrue.
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CITY OF HACKENSACK
RESOLUTION NO. 196-20
MAIN STREET BUSINESS ALLIANCE, INC. 2020 BUDGET
WHEREAS, pursuant to N.J.S.A. 40:56-84, the District Management Corporation known as the
“Main Street Business Alliance, Inc.” has submitted its proposed budget for 2020 to the Mayor and
Council of the City of Hackensack in the amount of $463,291.00 for the purposes of introduction; and
WHEREAS, municipal approval of said budget may be conferred only upon compliance with the
requested statutory notices and procedures, and not prior to a public hearing on said budget to be held
not less than twenty-eight (28) days from the date of introduction;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Mayor and City Council of the City of
Hackensack as follows:
1. The appropriate City Officials are hereby directed to undertake all necessary
procedures set forth in N.J.S.A. 40:56-84 prior to the Public Hearing on the
proposed budget; and
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2. June 23, 2020 at 7:00 P.M., is hereby established as the date of the public
hearing on the proposed budget.
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CITY OF HACKENSACK
RESOLUTION NO. 197-20
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF RESERVE FOR
PRELIMINARY EXPENSES FOR LSRP SERVICES FOR VARIOUS PARKS
WHEREAS, the City of Hackensack hereby acknowledges the requirement of
preliminary costs for a Licensed Site Remediation Professional (LSRP) to perform
an assessment of parks located in the City of Hackensack which have received
grant funding through the NJ Dept. of Environmental Protection Green Acres
Program as a necessary condition of that grant funding; and
WHEREAS, the purpose of these preliminary costs is for the specific LSRP
services and related studies to establish the scope and cost of needed remediation
if determined at Staib Park and Columbus Park in the City of Hackensack. The
amount to be charged is for a purpose for which bonds may be issued under
Chapter 2 of Title 40A; and
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the amount appropriated for
preliminary costs shall not exceed $75,000 and the Chief Financial Officer is
authorized to set up a “Reserve for Preliminary Expenses – LSRP Services for Parks
Project” from funds appropriated in the Capital Improvement Fund of the General
Capital Fund.
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CITY OF HACKENSACK
RESOLUTION NO. 198-20
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AWARD OF CONTRACT FOR LSRP
ENGINEERING SERVICES TO SUBURBAN CONSULTING ENGINEERING FOR
STAIB PARK AND COLUMBUS PARK
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WHEREAS, the City of Hackensack requires the engineering services of a
Licensed Site Remediation Professional (LSRP) to perform the soil survey
assessment required of the NJ Dept. of Environmental Protection as a condition of
receiving funding through the Green Acres Program; and
WHEREAS, the City solicited Requests for Proposals regarding LSRP
engineering services for the Staib Park and Columbus Park Green Acres Projects;
and
WHEREAS, it was determined that the proposal received from Suburban
Consulting Engineers is the most advantageous to the City based on cost,
expertise in this field and vast experience and specific prior knowledge of this
particular project.
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Mayor and Council of the City
of Hackensack, County of Bergen, as follows:
1. Suburban Consulting Engineers of 96 U.S. Highway 206, Flanders, NJ 07836
is hereby awarded a contract in an amount not to exceed $21,000 for LSRP
services related to the Staib Park and Columbus Park Green Acres Projects,
in accordance with the proposal attached thereof.
2. A Certification of Funds has been prepared and authorized by the Chief
Financial Officer for the said contract assuring that there is a sufficient
appropriation to fund the purchases authorized in this resolution as an
express and mandatory condition of the award of this contract.
3. The budget account to be charged is C-04-20-001-000-100.
4. The Mayor and City Clerk are hereby authorized to sign the contract
documents necessary to effectuate the award of this contract. The City
Attorney shall review any and all contractual documents prepared in
furtherance of this award.
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CITY OF HACKENSACK
RESOLUTION NO. 199-20
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TAX REFUNDS FOR STATE BOARD JUDGMENTS
AND DUPLICATE PAYMENTS
BE IT RESOLVED, by the City Council of the City of Hackensack that the
proper officers be and are hereby authorized to make the following refunds for the
reasons stated:
AMOUNT BLOCK LOT NAME YEAR REASON
PROP LOC
$21,968.21 28.01 23 Howard Goldberg 2019 State Board Judgment
Attorney for Albarelli Hackensack Associates 340 Hudson St
835 Lamington Rd
Bedminster, NJ 07921
$122.94 59 8 Howard Goldberg 2017 State Board Judgement
Attorney for Albarelli Hackensack Associates LLC 140 Hudson St
Bedminster, NJ 07921
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$122.87 59 8 Howard Goldberg 2018 State Board Judgement
Attorney for Albarelli Hackensack Associates LLC 140 Hudson St
Bedminster, NJ 07921
$1,057.46 59 8 Howard Goldberg 2019 State Board Judgement
Attorney for Albarelli Hackensack Associates LLC 140 Hudson St
Bedminster, NJ 07921
$8,551.16 59 9 Howard Goldberg 2017 State Board Judgement
Attorney for Albarelli Hackensack Associates LLC 132 Hudson St
Bedminster, NJ 07921
$8,546.15 59 9 Howard Goldberg 2018 State Board Judgement
Attorney for Albarelli Hackensack Associates LLC 132 Hudson St
Bedminster, NJ 07921
$33,335.01 59 9 Howard Goldberg 2019 State Board Judgement
Attorney for Albarelli Hackensack Associates LLC 132 Hudson St
Bedminster, NJ 07921
$3,436.89 322 1 Jennifer R Jacobus 2018 State Board Judgment
Trustee for Conifer Lake Properties LLC 147 Central Ave
201 Littleton Rd 1st Floor
Morris Plains, NJ 07950
$4,317.45 409 14.01 Bertone Piccini LLP 2018 State Board Judgment
Trust Account For Anderson Holdings LLC 5 Anderson St
777 Terrace Ave Ste 201
Hasbrouck Heights, NJ 07604
$4,246.61 409 14.01 Bertone Piccini LLP 2019 State Board Judgment
Trust Account For Anderson Holdings LLC 5 Anderson St
777 Terrace Ave Ste 201
Hasbrouck Heights, NJ 07604
$1,882.00 422 11 C005C Saad, Safwat 2020 Duplicate Payment
290 Anderson St #5C 290 Anderson St 5C
Hackensack, NJ 07601
$1,064.00 353 63 C0061 Hudson Home Management 2020 Duplicate Payment
For US Bank Trust 346 Esplanade
500 E Broward Blvd Ste 1130
Ft Lauderdale, FL 33394
$1,548.00 540 8 C00F5 Hudson Home Management 2020 Duplicate Payment
For US Bank Trust 20 Jefferson St
500 E Broward Blvd Ste 1130
Ft Lauderdale, FL 33394
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CITY OF HACKENSACK
RESOLUTION NO. 200-20
RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF
HACKENSACK AND HACKENSACK DPW/SANITATION EMPLOYEES UNITED
PUBLIC SERVICE EMPLOYEES UNION (“UPSEU”) FOR THE PERIOD
JANUARY 1, 2018 – DECEMBER 31, 2021
WHEREAS, the Agreement between the City of Hackensack (“Hackensack”)
and Hackensack DPW/Sanitation Employees United Public Service Employees
Union (the “Union”) expired on December 31, 2017; and
WHEREAS, Hackensack and the Union have engaged in ongoing
negotiations to discuss and agree upon the terms and provisions of a successor
Agreement; and
WHEREAS, Hackensack and the Union have agreed upon the terms of a
successor Agreement for the term January 1, 2018 through December 31, 2021;
WHEREAS, Hackensack wishes to memorialize its approval of the terms and
conditions of the successor Agreement.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the City Council of the City of
Hackensack that the Agreement as between the City of Hackensack and
Hackensack DPW/Sanitation Employees United Public Service Employees Union for
the period of January 1, 2018 through December 31, 2021, the terms of which are
incorporated by reference herein, be and hereby is APPROVED; and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the City Manager, the City Attorney, and
the City Labor Counsel are authorized to take all appropriate actions so as to
implement this Resolution.
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HACKENSACK
RESOLUTION NO. 201-20
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING PAYMENT OF BILLS
BE IT RESOLVED by the City Council of the City of Hackensack that the bills in the
following accounts be and are hereby ordered paid:
Current Fund $ 540,704.57
Grants 250.00
Payroll 1,682,056.00
Public Parking System 291.12
Capital 291,449.40
Escrow 70,860.60
Trust Account 33,471.23
Total Expenditures 2,619,082.92
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Interfunds/Transfers $ 7,330,531.34
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CITY OF HACKENSACK
RESOLUTION NO. 202-20
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE JOHNSON PUBLIC LIBRARY TO APPLY FOR
THE NEW JERSEY LIBRARY CONSTRUCTION BOND ACT IN THE AMOUNT OF
$1,733,929
The City of Hackensack and the Johnson Public Library hereby certify
that permission has been granted to apply for the project entitled the
New Jersey Library Construction Bond Act, in the amount of:
$1,733,929
The filing of this application was authorized at the official meeting of
the Governing Body of the Library held on May 12, 2020 and the Governing
Body of the City of Hackensack held on May 19, 2020.
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CITY OF HACKENSACK
RESOLUTION NO. 203-20
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AWARD OF CONTRACT FOR ENGINEERING
SERVICES TO SUBURBAN CONSULTING ENGINEERS FOR
MAIN STREET STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS –
ATLANTIC STREET TO PASSAIC STREET
WHEREAS, the City of Hackensack requires engineering services to perform
the bid preparation and construction management for the Main Street Streetscape
Project from Atlantic St. to Passaic St.; and
WHEREAS, the City solicited Requests for Proposals regarding engineering
services for said project; and
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WHEREAS, it was determined that the proposal received from Suburban
Consulting Engineers is the most advantageous to the City based on cost,
expertise in this field and vast experience and specific prior knowledge of this
particular project, including the necessary sewer separation components.
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Mayor and Council of the City
of Hackensack, County of Bergen, as follows:
1. Suburban Consulting Engineers of 96 U.S. Highway 206, Flanders, NJ 07836
is hereby awarded a contract in an amount not to exceed $334,423 for the
bid preparation and construction management of this project, in accordance
with the proposal attached thereof.
2. A Certification of Funds has been prepared and authorized by the Chief
Financial Officer for the said contract assuring that there is a sufficient
appropriation to fund the purchases authorized in this resolution as an
express and mandatory condition of the award of this contract.
3. The budget account to be charged is C-04-19-028-000-100.
4. The Mayor and City Clerk are hereby authorized to sign the contract
documents necessary to effectuate the award of this contract. The City
Attorney shall review any and all contractual documents prepared in
furtherance of this award.
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CITY OF HACKENSACK
RESOLUTION NO. 204-20
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AWARD OF CONTRACT FOR ENGINEERING
SERVICES TO NEGLIA ENGINEERING ASSOCIATES FOR
WEST LOOKOUT AVENUE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT
WHEREAS, the City of Hackensack requires engineering services for
surveying, design and construction administration related to the West lookout
Avenue Drainage Improvement Project; and
WHEREAS, the City solicited Requests for Proposals regarding engineering
services for said project; and
WHEREAS, it was determined that the proposal received from Neglia
Engineering is the most advantageous to the City based on cost, expertise in this
field and vast experience and specific prior knowledge of this particular project.
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Mayor and Council of the City
of Hackensack, County of Bergen, as follows:
1. Neglia Engineering Associates of 34 Park Ave., Lyndhurst, NJ 07071 is
hereby awarded a contract in an amount not to exceed $33,830 for the
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engineering services related to the West Lookout Ave. Drainage
Improvement Project, in accordance with the proposal attached thereof.
2. A Certification of Funds has been prepared and authorized by the Chief
Financial Officer for the said contract assuring that there is a sufficient
appropriation to fund the purchases authorized in this resolution as an
express and mandatory condition of the award of this contract.
3. The budget account to be charged is 0-01-26-311-311-204.
4. The Mayor and City Clerk are hereby authorized to sign the contract
documents necessary to effectuate the award of this contract. The City
Attorney shall review any and all contractual documents prepared in
furtherance of this award.
Public Comment
A motion to open the meeting to the public was offered by Deputy Mayor
Canestrino and seconded by Deputy Mayor Sims.
Deputy Mayor Canestrino – Mr. Geddis, I was not present at the meeting last time
and you accused me of things when I was not there to defend myself. In my
opinion, this is the definition of a coward. Not only was I not there to defend
myself, I was not there due to the death of my husband which was made obvious
during that meeting.
For you to do that is unconscionable, in my opinion. It is not representative of the
people who live in this city. It is disgraceful. To set the record straight and to
answer the way I would have answered had I been there, I know Mr. Oates because
he is a member of the fire department. The other two people running on that
ticket, to this day, I have never met or spoke with them. These accusations that
you made are unfounded. Your behavior, to me, is unconscionable. Thank you.
Victor – Concerned Citizen of Hackensack – Member of the Work Group – First of all,
I am no coward. Before you make that statement, you should find out more about
me. I was to thank the Council for allowing the three dads to run. I was told by Mr.
Powell when he was vetting me to be on that slate, that he had to check with you
to see if it was okay first. Mr. Sims was running around Hackensack looking for
people to be on that slate as long as they had nothing to do with the Work Group.
Either Mr. Powell is lying or you are lying. I want to know the truth. What was your
involvement with the slate?
Deputy Mayor Canestrino – As I said very clearly, I know Mr. Oates because he a
member of the Fire Department. The other two individuals on that slate, to this
day, I have never met or spoken to them. I had no involvement with the selection
of the candidates for that ticket. I also spoke with Mr. Powell and he explained to
me was that Mr. Glover asked Mr. Powell if you could run on the slate that Mr.
Powell was forming. Mr. Powell’s answer was his slate was already complete and
selected. That is what Mr. Powell told me when I asked him about this. I had no
involvement in this election whatsoever or the selection of candidates whatsoever.
If you have been listening to what I have been saying, my husband has not been
well for a number of months. I have been performing my duties to the best of my
ability to support this city and it has been difficult and challenging. I certainly did
not have time to be involved in the selection of candidates and other than voting
and reading information myself to vote as an educated consumer, that is the only
participation I have had as far as this election goes.
Lance Powell – Hackensack – Good Evening. I met with Mr. Geddis and Randy
Glover requested by Mr. Glover about your interest of running on the board. I met
with you both as a courtesy because I know Mr. Glover. You shared that you
wanted to run but however, we already had three people running. Anyone can run
for the school board. Anyone can make a slate, it doesn’t matter. No one stopped
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you from running. When I spoke to you in the presence of Mr. Glover, I told you
explicitly that you are new, try to get your feet wet. You told me in person that
don’t mind staying on the outside and being active and try to get things done that
way. You were very good about it, there was no disagreement and no one said you
shouldn’t run. I was surprised that you came out publicly at a City Council meeting
and said that Kathy said you should not run. For the record, I never organized a
meeting with you. I kept all the records in my cell phone where Mr. Glover was the
one who asked for the meeting and Randy Glover was the one who set up the
meeting. He forwarded me your number and I never called you, he asked me to
meet with you, which I did. You are not the only person I met with. I met with
many candidates who were interested, however we selected three candidates. The
elections are over. No one stopped you from running, no one did. Anyone can run.
You can form any slate you want. I want to clarify that I met with you because you
asked me to. Mr. Glover was the one who set up the meeting. It is all here in my
cell phone for the record. There were no conversations with you, all the
conversations came from Mr. Glover. I appreciate you wanting to run and I hope
you run in the future but I want to clarify that no one stopped you from running.
Bridgette – Hackensack – This question is for the City Manager. On April 10, the
Governor did Executive Order 122 ordering everything non-essential shut. On April
17, at 9:55 in the morning, construction was still going on in the City. The Order
did not end until May 18 at 6AM. Can you explain to me, why did the City of
Hackensack defy the Governor’s Executive Order for non-essential construction?
City Manager responded – Bridgette, for the record I need your name and address
since you are calling in. You reside in Hackensack; I need a street.
City Attorney responded – We are in this new world of ZOOM, it is appropriate
given the circumstances that anyone who wishes to speak at a Council meeting
give their full name and their municipality of residence. A street address is not
necessary. It is necessary for the record that someone introduce themselves by at
least their full name and to know whether they are a resident of the municipality or
not. I would ask that of all people speaking.
Bridgette responded – Is that in by-laws somewhere? Is that something you are
making up? When I have stood before you, inside the chambers, I have said my
name is Bridgette and I am a resident of Hackensack. I have said that on
numerous occasions. Do I have to go back into the minutes?
City Attorney responded – We have to keep a record. We have to keep minutes.
We can’t see you. That is the difference. We are trying to keep an accurate record
so when the City Clerk has to do minutes, so that you are properly recorded when
you are making your comments that the record is clear as to who it is making
comments. Weather we recognize your voice or not, if that were the standard it
would be very difficult when we have a lot of people speaking, I am not going to
guess at voices. We do have the right to know if a person is a resident or not. I
am not asking you beyond that but there should be no reason why someone
speaking before the governing body, especially given that we cannot see your
face, there is no video, to know you full name. I don’t know you full name. Other
people who are part of the City may, but I respectfully do not.
City Manager responded – We cannot see your face. When you asked me for that
document in reference to minority hiring, I had to go through all these records to
find out where you lived. I am just trying to make this seamless. To answer your
question, under the Executive Order of the Governor, there is a clause in there that
these buildings need to be weather tight so if the windows are missing and roof is
not on, you need to make it enclosed and protected otherwise the people lose the
value of their property. We asked the contractors and developers to put in a
written request to continue construction. It is in the clause to allow for this and
that is the reason why this was still going on.
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Bridgette responded – I read the Executive Order from top to bottom when they did
the cease on April 10. That is not the case here. When you say to secure the
building, we had actual construction going on where they were framing the
building. I have pictures. I can show you the pictures. They were framing, that is
not securing anything in the building.
Randy Glover – Hackensack – I want to make something clear. I did ask Lance to
meet with Victor. Lance is a friend of mine. I know he is the President of the
Board, so he did do me a favor and meet with Victor. Kathy’s name did come up in
the conversation. I will leave it at that. It may be a further conversation to be had
with the parties involved so there can be further clarification. My issue is we have
over a billion dollars’ worth of construction going on. We have over 3,000
apartments being developed. Are there any black developers, contractors,
subcontractors, workers? Are any of these properties of zones, HUB zones or
enterprise zones or any zones getting federal money? How are black developers
supposed to get the information from the City? We have a City Councilperson who
is African American who you would think would give that type of information to the
community, especially when this town is comprised of 60 percent black and brown
people, yet we are not adequately represented on the Council and on the Business
District Alliance. I have nothing against the Business District but it is about having
a fair shot and that information is not being disseminated.
Mayor Labrosse responded – I will start at the bottom first. The downtown is a
rehabilitation zone which is a state-run program. As far as black developers,
Hackensack is one of the busiest up-ticking towns in New Jersey and in the
northeast. There are developers from all over. I think Waypoint is out of
California. You keep asking why they aren’t the developers black; I have to ask the
black developers why they aren’t coming to Hackensack? We don’t call the
developers, they come to us. We are more than happy to meet with anyone of any
race, creed, color, etc. They are more than willing to come here. If you know any
black developers, have them call and speak to Albert. The black workers,
subcontractors, I can’t answer that. I went and asked developers the percentage
of minorities and everyone gave different numbers. They didn’t specify what
minority; I would have to specifically ask them if they are black workers. I can’t
answer why there are no black developers. We have no turned anyone away. I
can’t think of any situation where we have reached out to a developer, they all
come to us and that has always been the case. As far as some of the programs,
they say minorities but not specifically what kind. I will get some numbers for you
though. Every developer is asked to consider hiring from within the city limits
because we certainly want to see people from the city working but we cannot force
them to do that.
Carolyn Davis – Hackensack – As the Work Group, we offer our sympathies to Kathy
and I personally offer my sympathy to Kathy for her husband. My question is
regarding covid testing for seniors and if any progress has been made in that area?
How are we going to get to the seniors?
Mayor Labrosse responded – We have worked very hard on this. We can’t bus the
seniors. In order for the mobile unit to go to the building, they need a certain
amount of square footage in the parking lot. We are trying to get a mobile unit
back here and trying to get us on the top of the list for the second go around.
There are some other local things available if people can get a ride. Rite Aid is
doing testing but they do need an appointment and insurance. Bergen Community
College is still testing as well for both covid and for antibodies. We are trying to
get transportation through the Housing Authority or County for seniors. The County
didn’t think it was a good idea to put the seniors together on a bus with the
possibility of exposing each other.
Ms. Davis responded - If it is free, why do the seniors have to show insurance?
Also, by Beech Street, couldn’t they use the High School parking lot?
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Mayor Labrosse responded – They could use a section of the High School lot; I think
some of the traveling nurses are using the High School for parking. We have lots.
The M&M Building is close to one of the senior buildings. The senior center on First
Street, we can work something out, maybe the High School lot, maybe the hospital
lot on Newman Street. It will all have to be discussed with the second go around.
What I have noticed is that it is free if you have insurance. I know with the County,
if you don’t have insurance, there is still no cost but they still want to bill insurance
if they can to recoup the funding which is understandable.
Richard Salkin – Hackensack – I wasn’t going to speak tonight but I noticed a lot of
changing on the fly here and I do not get it. A gentleman gets up to speak and
Deputy Mayor Canestrino already had prepared remarks. I don’t know how that
came to being without you knowing it was coming. It was a bit of a set up. Deputy
Mayor Canestrino has my sincere condolences but I don’t think name calling puts
anyone in a good light. Secondly, I don’t know Bridgette’s full name but I know
Bridgette always identifies herself that way many times in the past and it has
never been challenged before. There was a woman in Teaneck who used to get up
at their meetings and one day they found her dead in her home and after that they
stopped having people give their addresses. The other change on the fly that I
saw was when I reviewed the last meeting, it became appropriate to cut off a topic
and the City Attorney knows it is not a reason to cut off a topic. Mr. Mayor you
jumped right down that route. It was a valid inquiry as to your support of a
candidate. I don’t care who you support as John Labrosse but when you use the
term Mayor, you have no right to do that and should refrain from doing that
because you are dragging the city, the Municipal Corporation of Hackensack, into
politics. I think it is wrong.
Mayor Labrosse responded – I am trying to think back to exactly what was said. I
have never hidden who I supported.
City Attorney responded – The concern that I have and I think Mr. Salkin would
agree is that Council meetings should not be turned into a political debate over an
election, not a municipal election. I don’t think it is appropriate is for this to turn
into a political debate over who to vote for in another election. It is not city
business in any way. We don’t want councilmembers giving political endorsement
speeches. We don’t want people showing up to meetings and turning it into
political endorsement speeches. It has to relate to city business and partisan
politics should not be going on in a Council meeting in that manner. To the extent
that the issue was raised, that was the concern that I perceived which is why I
gave the advice I gave and why I believe it was the correct advice.
Mr. Salkin responded – That is incorrect advice. You know there are no limitations.
The definition of what is of concern is in the possession of the public, not you and
not the Mayor.
City Attorney responded – The objective reality is that the City Council Chambers is
not to be used for political campaigning.
Randy Glover – Hackensack – If you need a location for virus testing, the church
where my 501c3 is at, is one block away from the MLK Center and I am pretty sure
I would be able to avail the building for testing.
Blanche Stuart – Hackensack Housing Authority Commissioner – Member of the
Work Group – 40 Kansas Street, 175 West Railroad, 164 Beech Street, 65 Third
Street are all senior complexes and they have sufficient space. The seniors are
more susceptible to dying from covid and it is difficult for them to travel and for
them to stand. I went to the M&M Building and I stood for a long time and there
were elderly people there who could barely stand there for that amount of time. It
would be easier to have the testing at the senior buildings so they don’t have to
stand out the whole time. Can you do it for the people who live in those
complexes? They can’t all come out at the same time because you don’t want
them to pass the virus. It would be nice to have testing in the public housing;
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many other towns are doing it because that is where the virus can be transmitted
more easily. The high school parking lot would also be sufficient.
Mayor Labrosse responded – The problem is that even though it is in Hackensack,
it is open to all of Bergen County. I can’t change the amount of square footage
required for them to come. That is why I need some measurements. I wonder
what kind of numbers are coming out of the public housing. The Health
Department can’t release that information.
Caseen Gaines – Hackensack – I want clarification on something Mr. Kleinman said.
He said the Council Chambers is not a place for partisan politics or political
posturing but I thought back to 2016 when the media outlets were invited with the
Deputy Mayor and Mayor to municipal locations like the outside of the HACPAC and
actually inside the Council Chambers for a public change of party registration and
denouncing of then candidate Donald Trump. I want clarification from Mr.
Kleinman on if that was inappropriate activity.
City Attorney responded - I was not part of the city in 2016 so it is hard for me to
speak on something that I am not familiar with. What I was saying is that I do not
believe it is proper during a Council meeting for the Council to be endorsing
candidates from the dais or for people to be endorsing people. It should be used
for the actual operations of municipal government. The Council Chamber in terms
of a public meeting is meant to be for public purposes and partisan political
endorsements do not represent that. With respect to the circumstances back in
2016, as I said I cannot speak to it but I am comfortable in saying that I would not
recommend Council members be endorsing candidates from where you stand and I
do not believe it is appropriate for there to be political back and forth with respect
to partisan campaigning. That is sperate from criticizing actual activities of the
Mayor or Council or expressing support of their activities. What we are talking
about here is actual politicking. With respect to what he seems to have referenced,
it doesn’t sound like there was actual campaigning going on, but I was not there so
I can’t speak to it beyond that.
Mr. Gaines responded- I know you were not here in 2016, but I have been in the
chambers multiple times where the Council has stated how they were going to
vote on things such as the referendum. I want to ask if in 2020, as you are the
City Attorney now, would you consider it to be inadvisable for a member of the
Mayor and Council to invite news cameras into Chambers and declare their party
registration and denounce a presidential candidate. Would you consider that right
now to be inappropriate?
City Attorney responded – It all comes down to context and circumstance.
Mayor Labrosse responded – That was not during a Council meeting. I think when
the Attorney said City Hall, he was talking about city business as a city council.
City Attorney responded – I am not clear as to the context. I have zero issue or
concern with criticizing the actions of a governmental official such as the
President. I don’t see that being of any concern. I am not familiar with the
partisan change thing so I don’t want to get into speaking on something I don’t
fully know about. What I would impress upon the Council and anyone speaking,
obviously Mr. Gaines you served in elected office yourself, when you are sitting at
the Council Chambers in a Council meeting you are exercising your governmental
authority at that meeting and the members of the public who are appointed three
minutes to speak on matters that are relevant to the government at hand. You
would have City Council meetings becoming political endorsement meetings and
that is not the purpose of a City Council meeting. What you seem to be describing
is a public official criticizing another public official, which you have every right to
do that as a member of the public, but when you start saying lets discuss who you
are going to vote for in an election for school board that is a concern to me.
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Peter Marchesani – Hackensack – I expressed my condolences regarding Emil. I
also expressed at the last meeting how hard it must have been doing all your city
work with all that going on with Emil. No one has anything to say about the budget
so I guess it is a good budget. No one could ask for anything more. Thank you
again for those numbers. The Manager mentioned there is an online survey about
the open spaces and parks in Hackensack. I got the survey through Gary Terzano
but question number 17 wouldn’t let you go any further. I don’t know if it has been
fixed. I saw the resolution tonight so I guess Staib Park construction is ready to
begin. The other thing is the environment at Staib Park. I know there were
concerns in the Davis Avenue area, I know you have heard about it and a lot of it is
hearsay, that there has been tree cutting going on and shrubbery cleaned out
along the river that people claim was put there by the Riverkeeper. It is all hear-
say. The City said they didn’t do it. I don’t know if the County did or if someone
did it on their own. Finally, who is the Work Group? I am not a member but I hear
that term come up all the time. Thank you.
City Manager responded – The City has removed three trees that were dead. There
is another tree that looks dead that looks to be close to the river. The City had the
stump remover out there and removed stumps from Staib Park. We are not
clearing, cleaning, or doing anything that would be the County or the Riverkeeper.
The DEP requires it be done manually, not with a machine. I have spoken with
Gary and I am clear on the requirements of the riparian corridor but the City has
not been involved. We have only removed dead trees that have been safety
concerns and there have been pictures taken. I don’t understand these rumors.
Regina DiPasqua – Hackensack - Good evening. Tonight, I have comments, not
questions, as my questions rarely get answered anyway. Last meeting, I asked
about COVID-19 cases and my questions were ignored. I also asked about the City
providing testing for residents and all that came of that was that Mr. Kleinman took
exception to what I stated. But he did confirm that he was contacted about
providing testing for residents and the Mayor later confirmed that cost is an issue,
so I was not too far off. Also, at last meeting the City Attorney cut off a resident
because he deemed her comments to be inappropriate. That is outright censorship
and a violation of the Open Public Meeting Act as well as the rights of residents. At
the public comment part of the hearing residents can bring up any issue that they
choose, ask any question and make any comment that is within the standards of
decorum and public decency. The City Attorney has no right, obligation or duty to
censor residents. This is not the first time it has happened. The Mayor and Council,
by their silence, seem to consent to such censorship and violation of the rights of
the public at a public meeting. As has been proven with my prior questions, the
Council does not have to answer or comment. However, you, as a public body, do
not have the right to stop the public from commenting and asking questions. I ask
that you address this immediately so as not to infringe upon the rights of any other
residents. Thank you
City Attorney responded – Ms. DiPasqua did OPRA that information and even
though it was not a properly formatted OPRA request, it was responded to and
they did provide her with the information she was seeking.
Jeffery Bolano – Hackensack – What is the intent of the Council? I have noticed you
have endorsed twice political candidates for the Board of Education. Is the Council
going to work with the Board of Education to improve the school system?
Mayor Labrosse responded – For years there was no relationship between the
Board of Education and City Council and that has changed. There are politics
involved on both sides. We did endorse candidates, and we have done in the past,
and will continue to do so as it is common place all over to do so for people we
think we can work with because we need to work together. We want to improve
the schools and work hand in hand with where we are going with the city, the
goals, what is best for the students, the increase in population and how to deal
with it, all different things. The two groups should be sitting together to come up
with a great plan to move the city forward. What we have done with the city in the
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past seven years, you can see the difference where the city is going and the
schools need to move forward with us. We want the schools, Board of Education,
and City of Hackensack to work in harmony together.
Mr. Bolano responded – You have spoken about infrastructure and the schools are
party of that. I know you have been criticized about the PILOTS and money not
going to education system but the system is part of the infrastructure of
Hackensack. Keep that in mind and hopefully we are moving forward.
Carolyn Davis – Hackensack – Someone asked a question about the Work Group; I
am the founder of the Work Group. I am the President of it and it was formed to
bring community information to our neighbors who don’t always come to Council
meetings and seek what is best for them.
Susan McVeigh – Hackensack Health Officer – I wanted to reiterate what you were
saying. I spoke to State over the weekend about expanding testing capabilities in
Hackensack. We are working diligently to make that happen. CVS will have the
capabilities; Rite Aid is testing. The whole city is working with Bergen County and
New Bridge for more mobile testing close and back to Hackensack in a quick
manner and to get our seniors tested. I have been in contact with the County and
the Housing Authority to make it happen. As far as the long-term care facilities,
they will have everyone tested by the end of May.
No one else wished to speak. A motion to close the meeting to the public was
offered by Deputy Mayor Canestrino and seconded by Deputy Mayor Sims.
Council Comments
Councilwoman Von Rudenborg – We continue to thank everyone who has stepped
up to help. Mr. Bolano, thank you for your question about the Board of Education.
As stated last meeting, I don’t use meetings as a platform to endorse candidates
but as a parent of three children in the school system, it is important to keep an
open dialogue. I have faith in the teachers and that things will get better but I also
share your concerns. The City and Board of Education need to work together for
the good of the students. When I first started, we did not meet together and we do
now. There are a lot of improvements going on, all those things we want for our
city to improve, we want the same for our students. It is a concern that I always
have. The open space survey is important so fill out the survey. As the City
Manager stated, we had to make the decision to cancel many events this summer.
We have to keep the health and safety of students and citizens a priority. Kids still
need to be encouraged to go outside, walk, exercise, we don’t want them to be
sedentary or be afraid to go outside. Thank you for coming.
Deputy Mayor Canestrino – Thank you to Patrice for the MSBA Budget which is
focused on helping the businesses recover from COVID-19. It will be a difficult year
for everyone and seeing the focus shift to help people get back on track. Finally, I
want to thank everyone for their support of me and the outpouring of love for my
husband. He was born and lived here his entire life and Hackensack meant the
world to him. It was wonderful to hear from so many people and show their care
and concern for me and my family as well. It was heartwarming. It meant the
world to me and my family. It is difficult to lose someone during the pandemic. It
is difficult to get closure. It was appreciated by our family. Stay happy, safe,
healthy, take care of each other. We will get through this.
Deputy Mayor Sims – My prayers are with all the citizens and families who have
lost anyone to COVID-19. We had the mobile unit at the M&M Building last week.
Thank you to everyone involved. We had over 500 people and over 100 first
responders tested. It is national public workers week so I want to thank everyone
who helps to keep this city clean. Have a happy Memorial Day.
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Councilman Battaglia – I am going to miss my friend Emil for the rest of my life.
COVID-19 has impacted all our residents and all of our life. We are going to have
financial problems and do the best we can and try as many controls we can to
prevent problems in our City. We have to thank people like Bobby from Cubby’s,
Pablo from Choripan, Clemente’s, they are feeding our first responders, seniors,
those in need. The lighting improvements and paving continue. We continue the
sewer separation on Main Street. Eventually we will have the two way.
Congratulations to the new members of the Board of Education. The residents
have to participate in the census. If we are missing people, we will miss out on
money. Stay home, wash your hands, be safe, eventually we will be okay. Thank
you.
Mayor Labrosse – Thank you to Jim on the budget. Hopefully it will be good with
Trenton. Looking forward to seeing what the budget will be next year. Thank you
to Patrice for being here tonight. The City appreciates all you have been doing
during the crisis. The MSBA has been helping feed residents in need. Memorial
Day is coming up. There will be a small ceremony tomorrow with the Council with
no public. It will be for all to see on our website. The census needs to be filled out.
It is important. The money we get depends on the census. We need all the funding
we can get with the pandemic. Tell people not to be afraid. No one is going to
track them down. We need to know what our population is. Please fill it out. A lot
of paving has been done lately. Prospect from Passaic to Ross looks great. We are
continuing to work on COVID testing and testing for seniors. We also want to use
the testing that works the best. Staib Park construction will be starting soon.
There will be no summer concerts, HACPAC, movies under the stars, Friday
concerts, which is very sad. I would like to look into drive-in movies which are
allowed. There would be a limited attendance but we could do a couple movies
that way. I want to thank you to Cory and Kelly Carroll with all the work they are
doing to feed residents of Hackensack. They have been on all the news channels.
They are now working out of our Civic Center. Thank you to all of our public
workers from top to bottom, especially our essential workers. I am looking forward
to seeing their faces again in City Hall. Stay safe, practice social distancing, check
on your friends and loved ones and have a wonderful Memorial Day weekend.
Thank you.
There being no further business the meeting was adjourned at 8:42 PM.
Approved by Mayor and Council on June 9, 2020.
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Mayor John P. Labrosse, Jr.
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Deputy Mayor Kathleen Canestrino
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Deputy Mayor David Sims
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Councilman Leonardo Battaglia
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Councilwoman Stephanie Von Rudenborg
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City Clerk Deborah Karlsson, R.M.C.
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