City Council Agendas & Minutes
Regular MeetingHampton, VA · May 12, 2010
Minutes
City of Hampton, VA 22 Lincoln Street
Meeting Minutes Hampton, VA 23669
www.hampton.gov
City Council
Randall A. Gilliland Joseph H. Spencer, II
Ross A. Kearney, II George E. Wallace
Angela Lee Leary Paige V. Washington, Jr.
Molly Joseph Ward, Mayor
Staff:
Mary Bunting, City Manager
Cynthia Hudson, City Attorney
Katherine K. Glass, Clerk of Council
Brenda J. Vaccarelli, Deputy Clerk
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 1:01 PM Council Chambers, 8th Floor, City Hall
CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
Molly Joseph Ward presided
Present: Randall A. Gilliland, Ross A. Kearney, II, Angela Lee Leary,
Joseph H. Spencer, II, George E. Wallace, Paige V.
Washington, Jr.
MAYOR’S COMMENTS
Mayor Ward welcomed everyone, particularly the newly elected members of Council, Mr.
Donnie Tuck, Mr. Will Moffett and Mr. Chris Stuart.
Agenda
1. 10-0212 Budget Work Session
PRESENTED by Mary Bunting, City Manager, Chris Snead, Budget Director, and Jimmy
Gray, Acting Assistant City Manager.
Ms. Mary Bunting, City Manager, stated Council is scheduled to adopt the FY2011
budget and its related ordinances during the evening Council meeting. She noted that at
the May 5, 2010 meeting, Council adopted those ordinances on first reading without
modification, not because they didn’t intend to make modifications because staff was
given guidance regarding some modifications. The City Manager stated they wanted to
provide the public the full opportunity at the two public hearings to make impressions on
Council. Also, staff has been gathering the changes that Council would like to make as
well as some changes staff believes they need to make as a result of changes that have
occurred between the introduction of the budget and tonight. She explained that
typically they reserve the afternoon meeting to go over that and to ensure that Council is
in agreement, or at least a majority of Council is in agreement, with the various changes
to be made, so the proper language for the motion can be prepared. The City Manager
said Ms. Chris Snead, Budget Director, will provide Council with Council’s proposed
changes and the changes included from staff’s perspective and how they should go
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about rebalancing the budget to accomplish that. The City Manager noted that she had
two other things to discuss with Council. One item she wants Council to be aware of
relates to specific changes the Community Services Board (CSB) is planning to make
with their budget that will impact the City’s customers. She explained the decisions were
made late last week. She further explained that some of those impacted customers may
decide to attend the Council meeting to appeal to Council. She stated she also wants to
clarify some comments last week with regard to the Phoebus Improvement League (PIL)
Funding.
The City Manager said, since much concern has been expressed and it has been a high
priority for her and Council, she wanted to acknowledge the status of impacted
employees as it relates to the budget. She stated the manager’s Recommended Budget
did downsize in some areas which impact staff, while maintaining that any employee that
wanted to remain in our employ would be placed, possibly in other departments, but
would be placed. The City Manager said our work force is exceptional, and downsizing
is no reflection on their performance, but rather the fact that we did try to reflect in our
budget opportunities for efficiency, workload consolidation, and needs versus wants.
She stated there has been progress. Although the budget has not yet been fully
adopted, Human Resources did start posting some of the positions that have been
vacant for a while due to our hiring freeze as well as some of the positions that will be
vacant through the retirement incentive that Council authorized. She stated over 60
people indicated they are going to accept retirement packages that we offered leaving
those positions available to be filled by other impacted individuals. She stated, of the 55
full time employees impacted, several do not wish to be placed for personal reasons
such as relocation, engagements, military deployments, and retirement. She also noted
that some employees will not be impacted and will remain in their department due to the
retirement of employees within their department. She stated that due to this progress,
instead of having 55 people needing to be placed, there are now only 29.
The City Manager stated 46 positions have been posted, and some will be posted each
week in order for the process to be managed in a smooth fashion. The first group of
positions was posted Friday, April 30, 2010, and closed Monday, May 10, 2010. She
stated interviews were being scheduled and another set of positions was posted Friday,
May 7, 2010, and Monday, May 10, 2010.
The City Manager said she wanted to clarify publicly that we have a group of part time,
retired employees, called When Actually Employed (WAE), many of which are known
very well. She stated some of these employees were hired back after they retired
because of the commitment they have made to the community and the success they’ve
had with customer service, and Council and staff have received inquiries about some of
them. She stated the City can not continue to employee retired employees in a
substantially similar job to that held prior to retirement according to Virginia Retirement
System (VRS) regulations. She stated if the affected employees agree, they may be
placed in other City departments that are substantially different. She stated some
employees have verbalized that if they will not be allowed to do what they were
previously doing, they do not want to stay. She reiterated for public understanding that
Council may have received emails asking that a favorite person be saved, but the City
has to abide by VRS regulations.
The City Manager asked Ms. Snead, budget director, to come up and review the
proposed changes to the budget, both those proposed by Council and management.
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She noted that some of the management changes resulted from continued
conversations in reference to consolidations. For instance, in the Channel 47 and 46
mergers, we found that we had not gotten the number exactly right, so as a result of that
there were staff changes. She also stated that while not seen on the adjustments, there
was some conversation about the proposal that management staff has a reduction in
pay by two percent and there was a fair amount of sentiment expressed by Council.
Council either wanted to participate in the similar reduction, or perhaps not pass that
reduction on to the management staff, or that might be something to reserve for the
future. The department heads and City Manager volunteered to take a two percent pay
reduction and there was some sentiment on the part of Council that that was a gracious
gesture but that it might not be warranted in this situation. She stated the commitment to
take a two percent pay reduction was made after Ms. Snead had already taken the
budget to print, so you won’t necessarily see that money added or subtracted. In
accordance with some of the sentiment reflected from Council, the City Manager
suggested not moving forward with department heads taking a two percent pay
reduction this year as it may be required next year.
Ms. Chris Snead made the following presentation.
Councilman Paige Washington addressed the City Manager stating there has been
some concern or conversation relative to the Channel 47 personnel and how they are
going to be impacted by the School Board personnel. He asked the City Manager to
highlight what is going on there, before the budget is discussed.
The City Manager stated that specific personnel would be discussed in closed session,
but she would comment on the global level and how it is going to work. She stated there
is a commitment between the City and the schools that Dr. Linda Shifflette, School
Superintendent, the City Manager, Diane Foster, Special Assistant to the City Manager,
and Anne Stephens-Cherry, Executive Director of Public Relations and Marketing, will
do the interviews for the selection of the cable station manager which will be open to
both existing City and existing school personnel only. She stated the four interviewers
will make a decision as to who to hire. She explained, once that decision is made, that
person will be involved in the hiring of the other positions that will need to be added.
She said that process has not been completed yet because both the City and the
schools needed to approve the merger as a part of their budget process. She said that is
scheduled to be done this evening, and there is a contract that was sent to Council that
codifies the process, but after the budget is adopted, the schools having already adopted
theirs. Once the cable station manager is hired, and the other positions posted, there
would be enough posted positions to accommodate the existing school and City
personnel should they want to be in that new operation. She said all of the employees
will be School Board personnel, not City personnel, because it will be one consolidated
unit. She stated there is one person who is in City employ who will be retiring, so one
person does not need to be placed. There is only going to be one cable station
manager, two engineers, videographers, and part time positions.
Councilman Washington responded that the reason he asked the question was because
he had been receiving feedback relative to the Hampton City Schools (HCS) indicating
that those School personnel would be getting the prioritized positions and City
employees would not, and he wanted to get a clarification on that and was glad that all
involved understood.
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The City Manager explained that they will work with employees who don’t choose to be
in the situation for whatever reason, if they prefer to remain in the City employ versus the
merged department. She further explained that this has been made clear to all of those
employees impacted, but these positions have been added to the new operation and the
City will be giving the schools the money. The only position that is being taken away is
that there is no need for two cable station managers.
Councilman Washington responded that he was satisfied with that and that he wanted
the public to be aware that there is no favoritism being practiced on either side of this as
far as the employees are concerned relative to Channel 47.
The City Manager explained that is the reason why she and Dr. Shifflette are personally
involved in the selection.
Ms. Snead provided Council with a schedule that shows the amendments as of May
12th.
Mayor Ward stated that her documents show May 2nd.
Ms. Snead verified that is correct and she simply forgot to change it for the presentation.
She stated that there are two different funds that will be impacted by the amendments:
the general fund, which is the general operating budget fund, and the storm water
management fund. She explained it was broken down into two sections: Revenue
adjustments, those adjustments that would affect the revenue side, and those
adjustments that would affect the appropriation which is the expenditure side of the
budget, as well as those adjustments that were suggested by Council and staff.
Ms. Snead continued explaining that the first adjustments deal with the revenue
adjustments and the Council adjustments. Based on conversations with Council last
week, there seems to be a majority of Council who want to reduce the personal property
tax on boats back to the .00001 instead of the thirty cents, so this reflects the revenues
that were in the budget that would be reduced based on that as well the personal
property tax on RV’s which is also included. She explained, if this was agreed upon, this
would cause a loss of approximately $214,000 of revenues. She added that it was
suggested that the revenues that we would receive for the billboards would become a
part of the general fund. Historically that revenue has been a part of the Economic
Development fund because it was revenues generated.
Councilman Kearney stated he didn’t recall that billboard revenue was historically given
to the Economic Development fund. He explained further that he understands why the
money couldn’t be put into Special Events, or into Parks and Recreation for activities or
something instead of going into another fund not under the direct control of the City
Council.
The City Manager stated that there are existing Council adopted ordinances which call
for all revenue from sales or leases of publicly owned facilities to go into the Economic
Development fund and the Council does appropriate the Economic Development fund
budget.
Councilman Kearney stated billboards haven’t been included before.
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The City Manager recommended not going into a lot of detail. She explained that is
something they expected to see in our projected revenue, but because it would relate to
this existing policy of all sales or lease revenue of City buildings or properties going into
the Economic Development fund, that was the historical reference that was being made.
However, the Council can direct it to go into the general fund, and that’s what this
proposal would suggest and effectuate.
Councilman Kearney stated that he was concerned about that money being lost. He
expressed that he would like to see the money used for activities within our community,
whether to the children’s festival or the beach music, for example. He said it really
doesn’t matter where the money goes as long as it goes to activities in the community.
The City Manager stated assuming Council approves amendments tonight after going
through all of these motions, this money would become a revenue item in the general
fund and as expenditure changes occur, it will be clear that there is money for special
events that this would be supporting.
Councilman Kearney requested the City Manager to draw it to his attention when that is
about to occur. The City manager indicated she would do so.
Councilman Kearney requested to speak on the boat tax issue. He stated that he left
last week under the impression that the City probably still had the boat tax and that he
was unaware that a vote or survey had been taken.
The City Manager explained that three of the people present last week expressed a
desire to make sure we maintain the policy of no boat tax. Two people did not express
an opinion and two people were absent leaving us to believe that it was going to be a
four to three vote one way or the other, so it was determined Council needed a proposal
that would effectuate that if indeed that’s where Council wanted to go.
Mayor Ward stated that she was one of the individuals that had not expressed an
opinion thus far.
Councilman Kearney stated he hadn’t recalled expressing his opinion either.
Mayor Ward questioned if the boat tax was to be eliminated, where was the difference in
the amount of money going to be made in the budget?
Councilman Kearney agreed that Mayor Ward’s question was logical, but he was
concerned that the public would think Council had already made a decision since he
does not remember casting a vote. He stated he was flexible to go either way
depending on the issues.
Mayor Ward reiterated her concern about where the money would be made up in the
budget if the boat tax was to be eliminated.
Mayor Ward stated there were three people that indicated how they felt about it during
the afternoon session and again her primary question was if we did do it, where is the
money going to come from?
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The City Manager agreed that Councilman Kearney’s point was a good point and she
stated nothing has been finalized yet, and that Council as individuals had expressed
some concerns and some of them weighed in and concurred that the City Manager
should look into it. She stated that some Councilmembers were not able to participate in
the afternoon conversation last week, so she had put together things that were
expressed, so that the remaining Councilmembers could see how things could be
rebalanced. She stated that the intent for today was for Council to give the final
indication, so the motions could be made. She reiterated for the public’s benefit, no firm
decisions have been made about any of these issues.
Ms. Snead explained that this is just a proposal to put forth to Council. She stated the
next group deals with staff adjustments and these revenues result from the final State
budget being approved, the compensation board has issued their budget, and they have
come back with revenue adjustments, and these are the additional revenues that can be
added to our budget based on the State approved budget. She explained that there are
various revenues: The Sheriff’s Department $183,000, Commissioner of the Revenue,
about $6,700, Commonwealth Attorney $56,000, Treasurer $5,800, and the Clerk of
Court $22,000. She said if in fact, this proposal is accepted, the budget would be
increased by approximately $120,219 on the revenue side.
Councilman Kearney asked where the money came from.
Ms. Snead replied that she was just speaking about the revenue side, and that she
would explain the expenditure side. She further explained that the revenue came mainly
from State revenue that was received from the State Compensation Board that was
greater than what had been built into our budget as well as the revenues from the
potential billboard advertising.
Councilman Wallace commented that the matter of fact is even if the boat tax is taken
out, which is $188,000, and with the increased revenues from the state, now there is
$120,000 on the plus side on the revenue side.
Ms. Snead responded that was correct.
Councilman Wallace commented that even after the boat tax is taken out, there is still
$120,000 to play with and Ms. Sneed will show us how she played with it.
Ms. Snead said she would explain what was done. She explained that the next group
has to deal with the expenditure side, and these adjustments are adjustments that
Council suggested at the last meeting that they would like to see put back into the
budget. She added that in non-departmental, there is the Hampton Holidays Parade
broadcast which is $20,000; Youth Planners, two youth planners are being put in, initially
there were four, but with the two, they will work longer hours.
The City Manager stated that there were actually three before. Two in Planning and one
in Neighborhood Services and the Planning Director recommended that he could make
do with two with some reduced hours.
Ms. Snead confirmed that this in at reduced hours, plus the FICA that goes along with
that. She stated that at the evening meeting, there were several comments and
suggestions that the Youth Program Manager that works with the Youth Commission be
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put back, realizing that the position works with the teen center. What is indicated here is
half of that salary. She stated Ms. Cindy Carlson, Coalition for Youth Director, went
back and looked at the budget of the Coalition for Youth and what was remaining and
she was able to come up with some additional funding so the full salary didn’t have to
put back. We put back only a portion of it, along with the benefits. In addition to that,
there were two positions in the Police Department that we added back as well. We had
thought that these positions would be vacated, but they are not. And you all have told us
you did not want to have us eliminate any sworn positions and so we put these back in
and the benefits along with that, and these are the Council adjustments.
The City Manager stated that she wanted to make sure the point was made that Council
also suggested some money be put back for the Youth Commission Grant Program.
When we looked at the end of the year savings for the Coalition for Youth which would
roll forward into the next fiscal year and that there was adequate funding available to
maintain the grant program at a reduced level.
Ms. Snead said she thought it was $23,000.
The City Manager stated that the end of the year saving funds would be made available
to the Youth Commission to continue the grant program while simultaneously pursuing
the suggestion Council made last week of trying to do a fund raising effort where the
youth would be taught how to solicit corporate donations doing dollar for dollar matching
of their grant program. She added that there are funds in the end of year savings
available to continue that program next year.
Councilman Wallace asked if this meant that 100% of those savings would be given as
opposed to 65%.
Ms. Snead explained that this is the 100% rollover and that year to year roll over is
permitted, while currently in the Coalition budget, there is that amount of money, so it
would roll over 100%.
Councilwoman Leary asked Mrs. Snead if that was all of the money that they had to roll
over.
Ms. Snead answered that was all of the roll over money.
Councilwoman Leary asked if any of the money was from previous years.
Ms. Snead replied that is previous year’s savings that is rolling over.
The City Manager clarified that once a department earns the money and it’s been given
back to that department, the department is allowed to keep 100% from their prior year
funds that have been saved. She explained that any new money earned in a given year
is subject to the 65%, so that is where the difference between the 65 and the 100 per
cent roll over that Councilman Wallace and Councilwoman Leary are referring to. So,
the money that they already have on hand, the $23,000, is subject to the 100% rollover.
If there was any money left at the end of this year, it would be subject to the 65%.
Ms. Snead stated that the next set of adjustments is related to staff. She stated after
reviewing budget cuts and discussing with departments and looking at reorganizations
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where positions were being placed, it was determined that there were many adjustments
that needed to be made.
Ms. Snead explained there are several areas affected. She stated the first one was in
the Drainage Maintenance Department. The Entomology Service Manager position had
been eliminated. That position had been vacated for some time, but without the
realization that there was a WAE position against the full time position, therefore the full
time position was eliminated. She explained further that someone who had gone in as a
WAE retired, and since we can no longer put in WAE’s, the position was eliminated
which created a need to restore the full time position back which will be an entry level
along with the benefits. She said the second area was in relation to the Channel 47
contract. She explained that originally, it was thought that only one engineer was
needed, but after the contract was reviewed, it was determined that we needed two
engineers due to the amount of taping and broadcasting that needed to be done,
therefore a little more needed to be added to that contract to cover that cost. Ms. Snead
stated the City Manager had briefly spoken about Recreation and Special Events. Last
week, in was noted that special events are not going to be contracted out as planned
since there are some of the same resources in house capable of doing this. She stated
$22,700 is needed to take care of Special Events such as the International Children’s
Festival, the dancing event at the beach, the movies, and those types of small events.
She further explained that the plan is to return money to the Virginia Air and Space
Museum so that they can continue to do the downtown events. In summary, Ms. Snead
said the $22,700 is for special events, and $175,000 is for the Virginia Air and Space
Center special events funded by removing the money from the Recreation department.
Councilman Kearney questioned if any money would be taken away from Parks and
Recreation when the $175,000 is transferred. Ms. Snead responded no, and explained
that the original plan was to contract it out, and it was in Parks and Recreation to issue a
contract.
Councilman Kearney asked if they were a holding agency. Ms. Snead replied yes.
Councilman Washington questioned if the $175,000 was the total amount proposed to
be taken out or if a portion of it is for the Virginia Air and Space Center. Ms. Snead
answered that last year, they got $200,000, and this year $175,000.
Councilman Washington questioned if the $175,000 was targeted to be reduced
altogether to zero.
Ms. Snead stated, yes and that last year there was $436,000 for Special Events
between the Virginia Air and Space Center and what the City was doing, and as part of
the Manager’s budget proposal, that was cut in half, proposing that instead of giving the
Virginia Air and Space $200,000, that $230,000 plus would be bid out. She stated that
the Parks Department Manager expressed that since that department still had some of
the same people through the RIF process, that they should be capable of doing their
own special events. She further explained that it wouldn’t make sense to contract out so
it was determined that it was better to let the Virginia Air and Space Museum do the
downtown events especially since it has been very successful and people have seemed
to like the fact that they have managed that program well.
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Ms. Snead said in the Community Development area, two WAE positions were
eliminated, but it was determined that they still needed a permanent full time position,
therefore a Land Development Associate position was added. She also stated that
when the position was transferred, it was determined that a position was missed in the
consolidation from Public Works Engineering into the Community Development
Department. She explained $63,435 represents the entry level of the Land Development
Associate in the transfer.
Councilman Washington stated he noticed the adjusted revenue coming in for the Sheriff
is $183,000, a reduction of $115,000. Ms. Snead stated that she would be reviewing
that portion and Mr. Washington agreed to wait until she reached that portion of her
presentation.
Ms. Snead stated she had already touched base on the special events transfer to
Virginia and Air Space Center of $175,000, so she would move forward and discuss
Police. She stated that since Council had mandated that nothing be changed in
reference to sworn positions, once the sworn positions were added back, the Chief was
asked to give something back, possibly two clerical positions, therefore the Police
budget was reduced by $67,000 which is the equivalent of two clerical positions.
The City Manager noted that there have been multiple retirements from the Police
Department as a result of the retirement incentive resulting in these positions soon to be
vacated which is why the clerical positions were looked into since they do not impact
either the direct service on the street nor do they impact employees who are already in
that department.
Ms. Snead stated she would discuss the Sheriff’s Department. She explained while the
Sheriff’s Department does show an increase in revenue, based on what was estimated
they would get in revenues from the State, the estimate was low, but even so, on the
expenditure side, the State is eliminating nine positions from the Sheriff’s budget. She
further explained that this represents the elimination of four positions which the Sheriff
has agreed to. She stated that after speaking with the Sheriff, he understood, but would
be hurt by the elimination of nine positions, but he could work with the elimination of four
positions representing the $115,000. She said the Sheriff added that with everything
that was going on he was going to ask for additional positions, so taking away all of the
positions that the State cut, he asked to keep five of them.
Ms. Snead stated when she mentioned earlier about the transfer of the position from
Public Works Engineering to Land Development Service of Community Development
that is the $38,435 that’s part of the $63,435. She explained the $63,435 going into
Community Development was the Land Development Associate and the transferred
position. She further explained that the $38,435 is the transfer position. She stated that
there wasn’t enough to make this work, but there was $900,000 that we had set aside as
we had done this year to reserve for State budget cuts, meaning there will be less
money, more or less $824,000. She stated with all of the changes, there is a net change
to appropriations of $120,219 which will result in a balanced budget.
The City Manager noted that there is one minor adjustment to the Storm Water budget,
but thought it would be better to get Council’s reaction to the general fund budget first
and then move to the Storm Water budget.
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Mayor Ward asked if anyone had questions for Ms. Snead.
Councilman Washington asked what if the boat tax and RV tax remained the same. Ms.
Snead responded that she would have to go to contingency and pull
money that is on reserve for State budget cuts, or the cut would have to come from
some other place.
The City Manager clarified Mr. Washington’s question stating she thought he was asking
if we did cut it, there would be $200,000 that could be used on the expense side so that
contingency would not have to be cut for mid year reserves. Councilman Washington
stated that is exactly what he was asking, and Ms. Snead said that was correct.
Mayor Ward stated this was confusing in reference to eliminate versus not eliminate
since it is eliminated now. Ms. Snead stated the Mayor was correct and that would give
more revenue.
Mayor Ward asked if anyone had further questions.
Councilwoman Leary stated she had an observation. She stated she had given Council
a work sheet showing the cost per capita for the region that was printed in the Daily
Press. She stated that she received an email from the Commissioner of the Revenue
wanting to set up a meeting to explain things to her. Instead, she said she would like for
the constitutional officers to come before Council after the budget maybe in July or
August and explain why this cost per capita is so high, rather than her meeting with an
individual. She expressed in her opinion that it would be better if the individual explained
to those citizens that don’t understand this increase and may have the same issue with it
that she does.
Mayor Ward agreed and added that the chart itself is deceiving, because there are a lot
of factors that go into it, for instance, seniority, there are some constitutional officers that
have been around for a long time, which is one of the reasons their salaries are higher
than other cities. She added that there is the fact that our constitutional officers often do
more work than required by State code, and they get compensated on a different level.
She explained the chart can appear one way when actually the facts are there, and it
can be a different fabric altogether. She said it can be looked into.
The City Manager stated she has data already put together that would share some of
these factors, for instance, the State gives a different starting salary based upon the
population of the City, even though the workloads may actually be very similar. She
added that she would be glad if Council does want the constitutional officers to come,
but it would also be prudent for staff to provide the Council, the new Councilmembers,
and the community the history about that program because that program hasn’t been
really at the constitutional officers’ setting. She explained further that the City has set
the salaries, not the constitutional officers, so it would be incumbent upon staff to give
the staff background on that item. She said she would be happy to do so.
Councilwoman Leary agreed and said she thought it was important as well.
Mayor Ward stated she wanted to bring up the matter of the travel budget for City
Council. She said Mr. Wallace has said several times that if senior staff was going to
take a 2% cut, that Council should too. She stated there have been some cuts to the
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Council budget, including travel, and her understanding was that the budget for travel is
$7,000 for the entire Council. Ms. Snead confirmed that was correct.
Mayor Ward suggested council agree to divide up the $7,000 to $1,000 per person. She
stated she spoke to the City Manager about being allowed to save it from year to year at
100% versus the 65% rate, in the event somebody wanted to go to a convention or an
event they would be allowed to save for it. She added, the money could always be
yielded to another member of Council or the Councilmember could agree not to take any
of it, but that would be a fair way to divide it up. She stated this is a much smaller
budget than in previous years, and she didn’t want it turned into a first come, first serve
situation. Mayor Ward asked Council if everyone was in agreement to proceed that way.
Councilman Kearney questioned if one Councilmember could give their money to
another. Mayor Ward confirmed, yes, one Councilmember may give their money to
another member of Council.
Councilwoman Leary stated she was concerned about losing funding for The National
League of Cities and the Virginia Municipal League because those are two major events
that are strictly for elected officials. She stated that a lot of networking is done at those
events and we get a lot in return.
Mayor Ward reiterated that all that is allowed now in the Council travel budget is $7,000.
She added every other department and department head has had to cut back severely
on travel and those departments have many important things that they attend in the
country such as educational seminars and things to get certified and things that are
important to them in terms of national conferences. She stated these departments have
all had to cut back, so Council will have to do the same thing.
Councilwoman Leary asked if this means $7,000 total will be cut, meaning $7,000 is not
being taken out, but $7,000 is just being left in.
Mayor Ward confirmed that was correct and none of this was coming directly from her,
but rather the City Manager’s recommended budget which provides for $7,000 for
council travel.
The City Manager stated the travel budget was cut effectively in half, meaning roughly
$7,000 was taken out leaving $7,000 in the budget for Council travel.
Vice Mayor Spencer asked how much money has been spent each year on Council
travel against the allotted amount that was in the budget. He asked if Council has been
using it all to begin with.
The City Manager stated that money spent varies from year to year. She explained in
some years, it’s all been used, in other years it hasn’t. She further explained that right
now there aren’t any procedures for how we do travel, and that it is left up to each
individual Council person. She stated that the idea of having a set amount reserved for
each Council person makes sense because that travel can be budgeted and money is
carried over 100% from year to year. She added a Council person might decide to go to
a big conference every two years, or they may decide to go to a local conference every
year, they can make those decisions, but right now the way the travel budget has
worked, it has been first come, first serve and when the money is exhausted, the
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Manager steps up to the plate and tries to find money in other budgets to cover what
additional travel may be needed. She added by reducing the budget in half, which was
done because we were trying to make cuts in all departmental budgets, it makes travel
even tighter and having some policy either suggested by the Mayor or Council would
make some sense to avoid getting in a situation where the Council ends up over-
spending its budget.
Vice Mayor Spencer stated the reason he asked the question was because he wasn’t
sure if Council had been using all of the money or not. He added, in times of austerity
and budget cuts, it is critically important that employees go where networking takes
place and be brought up to date on changes within their respective field. He stated in
his opinion that it’s important that Council has a set amount, and $7,000 divides pretty
easily. He stated if Councilmembers want to bank it for a year or two, do so, or if one
member offers another to attend an event using their part of the funds, it makes sense.
He further stated that it sets the example, and that Council needs to cut back just like
Council is requiring everybody else to. He stated he believes Councilmembers are
leaders within the City of Hampton, and this appears to be taking place in many cities
and counties and nationally as well. He stated he supports $1,000 per person allowing
the Councilmember to have discretion if they want to bank or transfer the money.
Mayor Ward commented that the subject came up and needed to be discussed
immediately because there is a newly elected officials conference at VML that she
recommends the newly elected members of Council attend because it is very informative
and helpful and an opportunity for new Councilmembers to meet people, and find out
how things work in other jurisdictions and about Virginia Law and how it impacts us. She
added now that there is only $7,000 to work with, there wouldn’t be much left for the rest
of the year.
The City Manager asked if Council was comfortable with these changes so the motions
could be prepared, or if it was necessary to go through each item. She stated a motion
needed to be prepared between the afternoon and evening meetings.
Councilman Gilliland stated that he is concerned about and had asked for information
about staffing in the Economic Development Department specifically on the job creation
side. He stated he received the information from staff and the City Manager has
proposed splitting a Real Estate Land Development master plan implementation
separating that from the Business Development or Job Creation side. He stated his
concern is that the job creation side of economic development is as fully developed,
staffed and funded as it needs to be to implement a truly high tech economic
development strategy. He stated that he has mentioned before that 90 plus percent of
all jobs are created by small and existing businesses year in and year out, and this is
reliable data that has occurred for generations across the planet, most specifically in the
US. He stated even politicians are guilty of liking big companies such as Gateway and
Mercedes; however, the reality is those companies create fewer jobs than the collective
existing small businesses in our community. He explained that small companies
generate 13 times more patents than large companies, therefore the Economic
Development Department needs to reflect that in its organizational chart, funding,
staffing and in its strategic plan. He stated that in his opinion, it does not. He stated
business development is simple as long as a certain number of contacts are made in
order to create enough interest in warm leads to close a certain number of deals,
providing a certain number of quotes, in order to close a certain number of sales. He
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stated he does not know a magic ratio for an Economic Development Department, but
those metrics exist for all kinds of industry sectors. He added that the City doesn’t have
enough staff to interact personally with the small and existing businesses in the
community to become remotely characterized as a business friendly city. He stressed
that this problem is in need of being fixed and it has been for a very long time. He
explained all of the companies and businesses in the City of Hampton could be reviewed
creating a matrix ranking those businesses in whatever particular business sectors or
clusters, considering how many people they employ, wages, percentage of those that
live in our community, and they would get ranked from A to D with A being the highest
rank. Those A ranked companies would receive a monthly visit from someone in
Economic Development asking questions such as how may we help you grow, do you
need anything, what hassles do you have with the City? Economic Development could
offer explain programs with the State, and offer to help these companies fill out the
paperwork. He further explained that if the City did that for three or four years,
businesses would stay in Hampton, and would grow in Hampton because the City would
be assisting them in solving problems they have that may be restricting their growth. He
said in his opinion, people would flock and may even leave other communities to locate
in Hampton if they knew that kind of support was here, but it isn’t. He stated this is not
just a problem in the City of Hampton, but he has not seen any Economic Development
Department doing a good job of this. He stated this problem is easy and fixable if the
resources are put toward resolving the problem.
Councilwoman Leary concurred with many of Councilman Gilliland’s statements. She
stated what he spoke on generated some other questions. She explained she has been
waiting approximately five months for a comprehensive list of consultants that the City
has been using. She stated her concern was why the City has been paying consultants
and paying staff making six figures that should be capable of doing what consultants do.
She stated that the public asks her this question frequently.
Councilwoman Leary stated that she had another concern. She mentioned that after
returning from her first national convention, she saved the City approximately one million
dollars by instituting some new technology the City did not have. She also mentioned
that at the second convention she attended, she did the same thing with spectrometry,
but now spectrometry is being cut by $84,000. She stated she hasn’t asked about it
because when the new members of Council came on, she wanted to take a more
strategic look at the entire budget and how money is being spent. She gave an example
that several members of Council had been to Las Vegas where the peninsula town
centers and the malls are invested in and discussed. She stated, in her opinion, Las
Vegas is too expensive for Council to be doing business there. She stated that she
believes Economic Development takes five or six people there two or three times a year,
without seeing results in reference to what is needed for small businesses and young
entrepreneurs. She further stated that this makes her wonder about how money is being
spent. She stated she would like to get through this process, so will object to anything
today, but is pleased to see new Councilmember faces that may help with these
challenging issues.
Councilman Wallace responded to Councilwoman Leary’s comments stating that the
comments that were made, glittering generalities, no specificity, no definitiveness in
terms of what has been done and what has been generated. He said he seriously
questions someone’s ability to go to a conference and bring back an estimated million
dollars in that particular context. He stated there may have been a possibility that staff
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was not aware of or already working in that particular process. He stated attending a
conference is like beauty in terms of what you get out of it and how you define it in that
particular context and that he has been around as long as anybody and been to as many
conferences as anybody. He explained that there are people out there hustling and
selling things, thus it’s not an end all to be all in that particular process in terms of
attending a conference and bringing back information. He confirmed that staff brings
information back. He said travel is rationalized by saying we bring back so much value
to the community, but it is also again in the context of being looked at in the eye of the
beholder in terms of what you do and how you define it and quantify it. He commented,
as far as Vegas is concerned, it is easy to victimize attendants at a high end venue that’s
very extremely popular and people get victimized by it all the time. He gave an example
of a manager being victimized by virtually the fact that the International City
Management Conference was held in Montreal. He continued, Montreal was part of the
International City Conference group, and they, like our city for conventions, bring them to
their community to do that. He explained that simply because the location happens to
be across the border, then it gets glamorized in the context that “oh they went to
Canada”. He stated it was a national conference and that is where your professional
people go in order to try to enhance and embellish and bring back new ideas and
concepts to their communities. He explained Las Vegas is the venue for two must
attend very important conferences, the retail industry, and the technology industry. He
further explained that the conferences are there year after year because there are very
few places in the country that can accommodate those numbers of attendees. He said
places such as Vegas, Chicago, New York, and Orlando are venues that can
accommodate those numbers of people, and it is important to keep those things in mind
when considering how money gets divided before a definitive conclusion is drawn about
how good it is or how bad conferences and their venues are.
Councilman Kearney concurred with Councilman Wallace’s points, and stated that was
the reason he went to Las Vegas as a new Mayor, resulting in Morris Stein and that
group deciding to come to Hampton to build the town center which opened four years
after all of the planning and discussion.
Councilman Wallace stated he and Mr. Kearney attended that particular conference
together and met Morris Stein in that particular environment.
Councilman Kearney stated that during that conference, he was flabbergasted at how
large the buildings were, but it resulted in the fact that staff had led us in the right
direction and the City was doing the right thing and in turn the investments occurred. He
added sometimes it may appear that the right thing is not being done, and the job can be
overwhelming, but the end result led in the right direction.
Councilman Kearney brought to everyone’s attention an article in the business section of
the May 12, 2010, Daily Press about Massachusetts versus Virginia. He explained the
article referred to the Boston area and how Boston has a higher tax rate, crime rate,
union wages, the congestion and the highways, all detrimental to businesses wanting to
come in. He gave the example of the big dig that took about twenty years resulting in
high land prices yet in competition with Virginia which has many similarities in population
break down, Massachusetts is winning hands down at attracting new businesses. He
said the article compared the school systems and it was education that made the
difference. He said Councilman Gilliland probably remembers when Council pushed
years ago for the new schools. He explained per the article that even though the matrix
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is the same, the results of the students with regards to section and race were almost
identical with that we have in our urban areas and they used old schools but still had a
better graduation rate, higher national test scores by all students which in turn gave
them a greater work force. He stated that this is nothing new and has been discussed
for many years and will be until our schools are improved, resulting in people wanting to
live here, shop here and business locate here. He stated he believes it is all connected,
and isn’t just one little thing here and one little thing there. He added although there was
criticism for building new schools, that is the reason it was done and the work force
center was opened in Magruder Boulevard area. He concluded that he was proud that
the City Manager wanted job growth under Economic Development and he looked
forward to working with her over the next two years to help achieve that. He said our
City should not hang our heads claiming to have done the wrong thing, but realize that
things could have been done better and that the City is moving in the right direction.
Mayor Ward stated that she didn’t mean to suggest that there is not value in travel and
networking, because she knows that there is. She said she was simply letting
everybody know what the budget situation was and it came to light because of the VML
conference that was coming up and that Council will be expected to tighten belts like the
other departments.
Councilwoman Leary requested to explain something since according to one of her
peers she had not given any specificity. She said one of the things she wanted to put
into context was what she mentioned about going to meetings can net something that’s
invaluable, has a price to it, and I remember something that Vice Mayor Spencer said.
She spoke of them going to the Virginia Municipal League, and there was a Council
meeting two days before where we were confronted with having to purchase several
properties because one of the pump stations was not working adequately, therefore the
City needed to spend a couple million dollars to buy these properties because the City
had created some type of eminent domain situation where people could not live in their
properties because of the stench coming from this pump station. She explained that
during the conference, she spoke to some of the engineers and was advised on several
alternative remedies to try, before spending a lot of money. She further explained that
Vice Mayor Spencer spoke to the group of engineers and listened to their remedies and
told Councilwoman Leary that she may have saved the City a couple of million dollars.
She stated this is an example of how networking is important and things can be learned
from other professionals and peers while at the same time, cutting expenses staff wise
by sending one person to conventions, let them take copious notes, and returning and
sharing important information learned with their peers.
The City Manager stated that this was a good time to inform everyone that this year
Hampton will be hosting VML, so we will have the opportunity to do the things that were
just discussed locally and we take great pride in being able to host all the cities in our
community during our 400th year. She stated that the public would probably like to know
that we will have those opportunities without having to travel.
Councilman Wallace said he hopes other cities have travel budgets.
Mayor Ward asked if anyone had any other business, regional or new business. The
City Manager announced that there are still a few more budget items to go over.
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Ms. Snead stated the last item to discuss is the Storm Water Management fund. She
said in the current budget, we have about $390,000 for the repair of the government
ditch, being the ditch portion that runs from the James River to the Hampton Newport
News City line and Hampton and Newport News must join together to repair that ditch.
She explained that Newport News did the estimate and, it was determined that an
additional $58,000 was needed, therefore an appropriation from retained earnings of
$58,000 and with the money going into storm water drainage capital outlay to cover our
cost of that ditch repair.
Councilman Washington asked if the ditch in question was the New Market Creek
coming from the Newport News line into the City of Hampton. The City Manager asked
Assistant City Manager James Peterson to address this issue.
Mr. Peterson stated he wasn’t sure about the ditch Councilman Washington was
referring to but the Government (Newmarket) Outfall ditch is one of the big drainage
ditches that take water and drainage from the City of Hampton through Newport News to
the James River, to that basin. He stated he has a map that can show you exactly how
it runs.
Councilman Washington asked if that is the tributary that takes the water to the James
River. Mr. Peterson replied, right.
Councilman Washington asked if that was part of the New Market Creek area also. Mr.
Peterson asked if the one Councilman Washington was referring to is the one that runs
from Mercury Blvd. down through to the New Market Creek area and back through the
area where Aberdeen is. Councilman Washington replied yes. Mr. Peterson replied he
didn’t think that was the Government (Newmarket) Outfall ditch.
The City Manager stated she felt it was important for Assistant City Manager James
Gray to speak on our human services issues about the cuts that the CSB announced
this week. She said representatives from the CSB appeared at both public budget
hearings thanking Council for the funding provided, but noting that the State budget cuts
were going to require them to make some significant cuts and they have now finalized
those and are beginning to share them and in fact they had a meeting today with the
ARC group about one of the changes they are proposing which is the elimination of the
voucher program for some of the families who need day services for their children. She
stated that in response to that conversation, we have been told by Mr. Chuck Hall,
Executive Director at the CSB, the first question that came from ARC was will the City
step up and make up the cut. She stated she expects that Council may begin to get
inquires from either the consumers directly or the agencies that are serving them about
us making up the budget cut for the CSB. She further stated this is the reason she
wanted Mr. Gray to explain it but more importantly, she also wanted to remind the public
that the City has been an extremely good partner financially and otherwise with the CSB.
She explained that although there is a $75,000 cut this year to the CSB, it’s really not a
cut and that back in 1989, the Council gave funds to the CSB specifically for prevention
funding to go to Alternatives. This year Mr. Hall advised us that because he knew he
was going to have to make some cuts as a result of the State funding cuts to direct
services, he didn’t feel that they could be the ones to provide the prevention funding, and
in recognition of the fact that Council had given specific funding for prevention services,
we then informed Mr. Hall that we would need to take that money back. If he didn’t feel
comfortable providing it we would be glad to provide that directly unless Council decided
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that they didn’t want to continue prevention services, but that money had been reserved
specifically for alternatives and prevention services, so if you take that out, we actually
maintained funding to the CSB and further, in recognition of the fact that we knew that
they had State budget cuts and the fact that we had a clientele that we felt was being
underserved, we worked out an arrangement with Mr. Hall, Wanda Rodgers, Director of
Social Services, Jimmy Gray and myself where we are able to send The Temporary
Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) clients who are in need of support services from
the CSB to the CSB. The CSB will be able to charge Medicaid, thus they will both meet
the needs of the clients and generate some additional revenue for the CSB. So
effectively once that program is up and running full speed, the City is effectuating more
revenue coming to the CSB. She stated that she wanted it known for the record that the
City is doing its part. What the CSB has to deal with are the cuts from the State which
we’ve all felt at the school level, at the City level, and that both Councils appoint
members to the CSB to make those decisions on your behalf. She emphasized that
these have been painful decisions, and everything that we’ve gone through and that the
schools have gone through have been terribly painful, but we’re not in the position to
make up these cuts, these cuts are in excess of several hundred thousand dollars and I
wanted you to be aware of that when people start to come to you and ask you will the
City make up what the CSB cut. Mr. Gray is available to give you more CSB specifics.
Councilman Kearney stated he had questions about different agencies located under tab
15. He said they outlined what the agency did, for example, Insight, but it shows that
most of the monies that we give to these groups actually go through the CSB, not all, but
many of them do. The City Manager confirmed that Mr. Kearney was correct in that all
of them go through human services. Councilman Kearney asked for example, does the
CSB get the money or does it go to the agency, Insight for example.
The City Manager responded that Insight is one that we actually were funding out of
outside agencies not through human services or the CSB, but a good example would be
the Denbigh house. She stated they came and thanked Council for funding to allow
them to deal with post traumatic stress and brain disorders cases resulting from war
injuries and other accidents. She explained that goes to the CSB and the CSB in turn
gives the money to the Denbigh House, but the CSB doesn’t really have the flexibility to
divert those funds to some other purpose. She explained this is a similar situation to the
alternative situation described before where money was going to the CSB for prevention
services, the CSB was then taking that and giving it to alternatives directly. She stated
other agencies that are funded with governmental support such as the Food Bank,
Transitions, Peninsula Agency on Aging and HELP, agencies that do services that if they
went away we would otherwise have to do ourselves, they go through Human Services,
the Social Services Department because they are basically partners with Social
Services.
Councilman Kearney asked if the money goes to Social Services and they distribute it.
The City Manager answered that they oversee the contract which gives the assurance
that the money is being leveraged.
Mr. Gray stated that the City Manager summed it up very well mentioning that the CSB
had informed us that they were reducing their funding for their voucher program. Mr.
Gray gave background on the voucher program explaining that State general grant funds
are used to provide vouchers to clients in Hampton and Newport News who have
intellectual and physical disabilities for day programming at agencies like the ARC,
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Peninsula, Eggleston Services and those voucher programs are for up to $30 per day for
a maximum of $7,200 annually and 78 people between Hampton and Newport News
received those vouchers and for those programs, 38 of those actually live or are citizens
of Hampton or family members of citizens of Hampton. He said CSB is reducing funding
for that program nearly $510,000, probably the most significant reduction having some
impact on services that are received for individuals with those types of disabilities. He
stated per the Director Human Services, while they do receive this funding through the
voucher program, funding is also available through Medicaid, and staff is prepared to
process applications for Medicaid as soon as those individuals are notified that they will
no longer receive the vouchers. He added that the turn around time for processing their
applications is about seven days. He explained that some people may choose to pay for
the services out of pocket once the voucher program is eliminated, but again Medicaid
services or Medicaid funding is also available for the same services they are currently
receiving.
Councilman Wallace wanted clarification and asked if the City Manager mentioned
$89,000. He also asked how much and if it was used as a voucher program for these
individuals.
The City Manager stated that in 1989, the Council provided funding for alternatives. She
said $100,000 was provided for alternatives and the prevention funding. She further
explained that these are two separate issues and that she was trying to explain the cut
provided to the CSB this year because some people have talked about the fact that the
City has not previously cut the CSB. She explained that the reason for the cut was
because previously in 1989, $100,000 was given to the CSB to directly fund prevention
services.
Councilman Wallace asked for clarification if this was a one time gift. The City Manager
replied that it was permanent, and the money has been used for alternatives every year
since.
Councilman Wallace again asked for clarification if this was a one time gift.
The City Manager replied no and explained that we increased that contribution to the
CSB by $100,000 annually. She said we did not add $100,000 every year, but we
increased the base and never took it away for that $100,000 and every year since that
time, the CSB has funded them at or in excess of that amount of money. She further
explained that this year because they knew that the State general funds were going to
require them to make reductions in areas such as the voucher program, they didn’t feel
that they could cut these important services and maintain prevention services. She said
under those circumstances, the City had to provide those prevention services directly
unless Council gave specific direction to cease prevention services. She stated Council
had been sent a memo relative to that effect and a letter was submitted to the CSB
board about that issue. She explained that it really isn’t a cut because they are not
funding alternatives any longer, but they are also not getting the money that we gave
them for alternatives anymore. She said the voucher program is separate and distinct
as Mr. Gray mentioned, that has been funded with State general fund dollars and since
the State general funds were reduced, that is one of the areas that the CSB board has
elected to reduce.
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Councilman Wallace asked for clarification that these individuals will still receive the
service, but through Medicaid.
The City Manager stated, yes, if those individuals are willing, but there are some families
that for whatever personal reason have not felt comfortable receiving Medicaid. She
also noted that there’s also a waiting list for the revenue so there may be some transition
time where they are not able to get that revenue.
Councilman Wallace asked if Medicaid does not have the capacity, revenue wise, to
service all of these individuals, what alternative would those individuals that would not be
serviced have other than out of pocket. The City Manager confirmed that those
individuals would have to do that out of pocket.
Mr. Gray added that the only two alternatives are to either pay out of pocket or apply
through Medicaid. He stated that the disabilities that they are receiving services for do
qualify for Medicaid funding but they will have to make an application through the Human
Services Department to apply for that funding.
Councilman Wallace asked if the domino affect of that is that it also impacts ARC. The
City Manager replied ARC of Peninsula is currently the preferred provider of many of
these clients who have vouchers, not the only ones but they receive many of those
clients.
Councilwoman Leary asked how many people received vouchers, how many applied
and whether or not anyone was turned away.
Mr. Gray replied 78 total between Hampton and Newport News, 38 Hampton clientele
who received vouchers. He stated that none were turned away and that currently, the
voucher program is still in place. They are eliminating the voucher program beginning
July 1, in the FY2011 budget, so those individuals are currently receiving services
through the ARC and Eggleston Services through the voucher program. He added that
once that voucher program is eliminated, those individuals would either have to pay out
of pocket, or apply for Medicaid. He reiterated that funding is available through Medicaid
and they do qualify to receive the same level of service through Medicaid. He stated, as
the City Manager mentioned, some individuals choose or the voucher program has been
the preferred method of funding therefore some individuals would prefer not to go to
Medicaid, and if they have the capacity to pay out of pocket, then they will have to do so,
otherwise they will have to make an application to Medicaid.
The City Manager explained that the voucher program has been closed to new
membership for many years going back to a change at Sarah Bonwell Hudgins many
years ago. She added the people impacted by that change were given vouchers by the
CSB and those have been maintained since that time, but once that change was made,
the program was closed, so they have not been receiving new individuals into that
voucher program for the last several years. She added this means no one is really being
turned away, but they will lose voucher support and will have to go one of the two routes.
Councilman Washington asked if the state cut the Medicaid funds for this particular
program to CSB.
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Mr. Gray stated that the State cut the funds typically geared to programs that are offered
through CSB.
Councilman Washington asked if there is any guarantee that those individuals now
receiving vouchers who qualify with Medicaid through application will receive coverage.
Mr. Gray explained that there are two different programs. One, there is a voucher
program under Medicaid which provides services for those individuals who require some
type of residential care such as through a group home, there is a waiting list for that
particular program. The services provided through the ARC and Eggleston are
vocational programs offered through a day service program and that is the program
these vouchers are geared toward. He further explained if an application is made for a
voucher, there could be some lag time between the time the vouchers are reduced and
the time that the Medicaid funding is approved but all of the individuals currently qualify
for Medicaid. He added that because of the disabilities that they do have, they do qualify
for Medicaid, they just have to make an application for it. He said if any of the
individuals who are currently receiving any funding through CSB for group homes or
residential care, the voucher program is offered through Medicare for those services and
there is a waiting list for that. He confirmed that the 78 individuals mentioned are
individuals that are receiving services through day programs such as the ARC and
Eggleston.
The City Manager stated she was asked to clarify the conversation last week about the
Phoebus Improvement League funding especially because of the articles that ran in the
paper after our meeting suggesting that perhaps there had been improper use of the
funds and the Housing and Urban Development (HUD) investigation. She explained in
terms of funding for the Phoebus community, through any of these organizations
whether it’s the Phoebus Improvement League or the Phoebus Merchants Association,
or the Civic Association, there are no City general fund dollars available for any of those
entities in our budget. She said we have long funded the betterment of the Phoebus
community through Community Development Block Grant funds which are Federal funds
and there are certain requirements to qualify for these funds of which all of the entities in
Phoebus, only one currently qualifies. She explained you must be a 501 C3
organization, further, you must meet specific goals as articulated by the Federal grant
program which the Phoebus Improvement League has done. To qualify for funds, in
addition to that, an application must be filed and must be verified against the
requirements of the program. The application process for these funds was advertised in
the Daily Press on December 15th of 2009. She stated that she would make available to
Council in the Friday packet a copy of that ad. In addition to placing the ad in the Daily
Press, Ms. Angelique Shenk, Senior neighborhood Development Specialist indicated to
her that a copy of the ad was sent to all the neighborhood organizations in the
Neighborhood Office database including the Phoebus Improvement League, The
Merchants Association of Phoebus, and the Phoebus Civic Association. She stated that
the due date for the applications, remembering that they were advertised in the Daily
Press on December 15th, was January 29th, of 2009, and on January 27th, because we
had not received an application from one of the organizations that had come to Council
and solicited funding, Ms. Shenk called that group and left a message to see if any
assistance was required. She received and email response, again which I will provide to
council in the Friday package that stated “Though there are many areas the Merchants
of Phoebus could provide assistance and generate positive changes, this grant does not
appear to address our focal areas.” Accordingly, as this organization did not complete an
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application, we were unable to provide CDBG funding for it. She reiterated, we do not
have general fund dollars already available to any of these and with the fiscal situation
we face, we were not able to provide funding to any new organization period, out of the
general fund. We did however think that funding for Phoebus was critical, and as the
Phoebus Improvement League is the only organization currently eligible, we did provide
funding for it, as I said last week with the intent to write some tighter contract language
to ensure that folks better understood when meetings were occurring and those kinds of
things which we think are absolutely important for any organization receiving City funds.
There have been allegations filed with both the city and HUD, that PIL use of funds is
inappropriate. The City and HUD have reviewed these allegations. Additional reviews
have been made as part of past routine HUD audits which they do of all localities who
receive HUD funds. None of these reviews has confirmed any inappropriate use of the
City CDBG allocation funds. She stated since we were not able to provide CDBG funds
to any other organization that works in the betterment of the Phoebus community we did
make the commitment to the Merchants Association as we have with the Phoebus Civic
Association that City staff would work with any entity that had the betterment of the
Phoebus community or the larger City in mind, to the extent that our City departmental
operating budget would support it. She explained that since she provided that
communication specifically to the Merchants Association, the president of that group has
contacted her and asked for assistance in one particular area which she was able to
meet, specifically with regard to waiving extra duty officer expenses for an event for
which the organization had never been charged in the past and we were able to work
that out. She concluded we will continue to work in partnership with that group or any
other group that wants to promote the betterment of our community.
Councilman Wallace asked the City Manager to mention the fact that we do have other
Economic Development funds that are available for all of those entities.
The City Manager confirmed yes, other Economic Development funds are available and
she thanked Councilman Wallace for bringing that to her attention. She stated that
roughly a year and half or so ago, the Council did adopt a program for tenant
inducement funds and specifically included that for downtown and Phoebus and the
Industrial Development Authority (IDA). IDA administers that program for us, we do
have criteria for applications, and there is a grant review process that the IDA uses. She
said she spoke with William H. Benson, Jr., Chairman of the IDA earlier this week and
he confirmed that they do have applications that they are beginning to review for the use
of the tenant inducement funds. She explained that they do have certain standards that
they think must be met in their fiduciary role and they are taking their time in reviewing
those applications, and again as Mr. Wallace mentioned, a lot of people think it is just for
downtown. She stated downtown was an important target area to be sure, but Phoebus
was also included in that effort.
Councilwoman Leary said that was always her understanding also. She stated when
she had the opportunity, she introduced the Merchants Association of Phoebus to the
Chair of the IDA, so she knows that they are working on something even now. She
questioned, when did we have access to the CDBG money and when did the City of
Hampton know they were going to be receiving CDBG money.
The City Manager stated that we receive funds every year, but we don’t necessarily
know how much we are going to get because just as the State makes budget cuts, so
does the Federal Government. She stated she doesn’t know exactly when we received
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that notification, but she would be sure to get that from Ms. Shenk and provide it to you,
but our process every year is to place an ad in the paper in the December time frame for
receipt of applications at the end of January and then after we receive those
applications, make the budget recommendations in concert with the Manager’s
recommended budget. She reiterated that off the top of her head, she was not certain
as to what date we actually got the notification from HUD as to the exact allocation.
Councilwoman Leary stated since they work on October, that’s usually when they
approve their budget. She stated that she thought it was probably around October, but
would like a specific date. She added, she received a communiqué from the Merchants
Association, something she specifically asked for was something to show how much
money they had spent. She added for example, how much money had The Merchants
Association of Phoebus spent in the last three or four years for events in the Phoebus
area for which they have not been reimbursed. She stated she will provide Council with
that report. She said she has also requested a time line on things because it’s very hard
for her also. She said she appreciated names not being mentioned because that was
very important to her, and in another meeting, names were mentioned. She stated she
didn’t want to give the appearance or perception that she was dismissing any citizen and
what they do for our City, so she appreciated it not going that far.
The City Manager stated she looked forward to receiving the information requested by
Councilwoman Leary and that it will certainly be entertained. She stated she feels it is
very appropriate for our City departments to work in support of agencies that want to put
on events to the extent that we have budgetary funds to do so. She noted that there are
many individual merchants and or collection of merchants throughout the City that do
choose to put on events that the City does not support. She explained that they do
those to market their own businesses and/or their own business districts and so just
because they have done that, does not necessarily meet the approach that we would
use in terms of staff analysis for funding. She stated she has extended herself to any
group that’s asked for support with the City to find ways that we can leverage our joint
assets in order to improve our community.
Councilman Wallace stated that the interest was that somebody has not been
reimbursed, and his concern was have promises been made to reimburse somebody
from something that we have not done. The City Manager replied, no.
Councilwoman Leary stated she didn’t think that was implied and if it was it was not
intentional. She explained she asked to see something in writing that can give her as a
member of Council an idea of what has been generated by the businesses in Phoebus,
and she has that.
Mayor Ward asked if anyone else had anything else regional or new business. She
stated Council would go into closed session and that the newly elected members of
Council were invited to join them in the Lawson Conference room.
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Regional Issues
New Business
Closed Meeting
2. 10-0182 Closed session as provided in Virginia Code Section 2.2-3711.A.1, .3 and
.7
APPROVED
Motion made by: Councilmember Paige V. Washington, Jr.
Seconded by: Councilmember Randall A. Gilliland
Ayes: 7 - Randall A. Gilliland, Ross A. Kearney, II, Angela Lee Leary,
Joseph H. Spencer, II, George E. Wallace, Paige V. Washington,
Jr., Molly Joseph Ward
Nays: 0
. 10-0214 to consult with legal counsel regarding specific legal matters regarding
the budget process and animal control and requiring the provision of legal
advice by such counsel
NO ACTION REQUIRED
. 10-0213 to discuss specific personnel decisions and changes proposed in the
budget process and to discuss a personnel matter involving a council
member.
NO ACTION REQUIRED
. 10-0219 to consult with legal counsel regarding specific legal matters pertaining to
the grant of a cable franchise, and requiring the advice of counsel
NO ACTION REQUIRED
. 10-0225 to discuss the disposition of publicly held property in the Buckroe area
where the discussion in an open session could would adversely affect the
bargaining position or negotiating strategy of the city
NO ACTION REQUIRED
. 10-0141 to consider an appointment to the Hampton-Newport News Community
Criminal Justice Board
NO ACTION REQUIRED
. 10-0185 to consider an appointment to the Board of Review of Real Estate
Assessments
NO ACTION REQUIRED
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. 10-0215 to consider appointments to the Federal Area Development Authority
NO ACTION REQUIRED
Certification
3. 10-0183 Resolution Certifying Closed Session
WHEREAS, the City Council of the City of Hampton, Virginia, has convened a
closed session on this date pursuant to an affirmative recorded vote made in accordance
with the provisions of the Virginia Freedom of Information Act; and
WHEREAS, Section 2.2-3712D of the Code of Virginia requires a certification by
the City Council of the City of Hampton, Virginia, that such closed meeting was
conducted in conformity with Virginia Law;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the City Council of the City of
Hampton, Virginia, hereby certifies that, to the best of each member’s knowledge, (i)
only public business matters lawfully exempted from open meeting requirements by
Virginia law were discussed in the closed session to which this certification resolution
applies, and (ii) only such public business matters as were identified in the motion
convening the closed meeting were heard, discussed, or considered by the city council
of the city of Hampton, Virginia.
ADOPTED
Motion made by: Councilmember George E. Wallace
Seconded by: Councilmember Angela Lee Leary
Ayes: 7 - Randall A. Gilliland, Ross A. Kearney, II, Angela Lee Leary,
Joseph H. Spencer, II, George E. Wallace, Paige V. Washington,
Jr., Molly Joseph Ward
Nays: 0
Adjournment
_____________________
Molly Joseph Ward
Mayor
__________________________
Katherine K. Glass, CMC
Clerk of Council
Date approved by Council ______________________
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Agenda
City of Hampton, VA
22 Lincoln Street
Hampton, VA 23669
www.hampton.gov
Council Agenda
Wednesday, May 12, 2010
1:00 PM
Council Chambers, 8th Floor, City Hall
City Council
Randall A. Gilliland, Ross A. Kearney, II, Angela Lee Leary,
Joseph H. Spencer, II, George E. Wallace, Paige V.
Washington, Jr.,
Molly Joseph Ward, Mayor
Staff:
Mary Bunting, City Manager
Cynthia Hudson, City Attorney
Katherine K. Glass, Clerk of Council
Brenda J. Vaccarelli, Deputy Clerk
Last Published: 5/6/2010 5:18:06 PM
CALL TO ORDER
AGENDA
1. 10-0212 Budget Work Session
REGIONAL ISSUES
NEW BUSINESS
CLOSED MEETING
2. 10-0182 Closed session as provided in Virginia Code Section 22.1-3711A.1 and .7
10-0214 to consult with legal counsel regarding specific legal matters regarding the
budget process and animal control and requiring the provision of legal advice
by such counsel
10-0213 to discuss specific personnel decisions and changes proposed in the budget
process
10-0219 to consult with legal counsel regarding specific legal matters pertaining to the
grant of a cable franchise, and requiring the advice of counsel
10-0141 to consider an appointment to the Hampton-Newport News Community
Criminal Justice Board
10-0185 to consider an appointment to the Board of Review of Real Estate
Assessments
10-0215 to consider appointments to the Federal Area Development Authority
CERTIFICATION
3. 10-0183 Resolution Certifying Closed Session
Contact Info:
Clerk of Council, 757-727-6315, council@hampton.gov
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