Planning Commission Agendas & Minutes
Regular MeetingHampton, VA · August 2, 2012
Minutes
AT A PUBLIC HEARING AND REGULAR MEETING OF THE HAMPTON PLANNING
COMMISSION HELD IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 8TH FLOOR, CITY HALL, HAMPTON,
VIRGINIA, ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 2, 2012 AT 3:38 P.M.
ITEM I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Carlton Campbell called the Planning Commission meeting to
order.
ITEM II. ROLL CALL
A call of the roll noted Commissioner Chris Snead was absent.
ITEM III. MINUTES
A motion was made by Commissioner Andre McCloud and seconded by
Commissioner James Young to approve the minutes of the July 5, 2012 work session and
Planning Commission meeting as amended. A roll call vote on the motion resulted as
follows:
AYES: LaRue, Young, McCloud, Williams, Bunting
NAYS: None
ABST: Campbell
ABSENT: Snead
IV. Staff Reports
A. Youth Planner Report
Chyna Matheny, Junior Youth Planner stated the Hampton Youth Commission will
hold its annual retreat August 7 and 8, 2012 at Old Dominion University. The purpose of
holding the retreat outside of Hampton is to acclimate the commissioners to working
out of their comfort zones in an unfamiliar place in order to develop a new perspective.
The Commissioners will engage in activities that focus on developing teamwork and
work skills, as well as getting to know each other.
The Youth Commission is also wrapping up the Youth Friendly Business Project.
The analysis of the evaluations of these businesses has been completed and the pass or
fail letters have been distributed. The letters include the purpose of the project, the
results, and contact information if the business wishes to learn more about the process,
especially what and how it can improve. Out of 100 businesses 60 passed.
Chairman Campbell welcomed Chyna Matheny on her first presentation and on
a job done well.
In response to a question by Chairman Campbell Ms. Matheny stated there are
28 students on the Commission.
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In response to a question by Chairman Campbell, Senior Youth Planner, James
Payne stated recruitment is done from students who sit in on a work session. They
discuss efficient and effective ways to reach out to the youth and they reach out by
going into the four (4) area high schools and telling students to also watch Channel 47.
In response to a question by Chairman Campbell as to why she became
interested in becoming a Youth Planner, Ms. Matheny stated she was recommended
by Evelyn Baumgardner, the outgoing Senior Youth Planner.
Public Hearing Procedures
Mr. Terry O’Neill, Secretary to the Commission, read key points of the Hampton
Planning Commission Public Hearing/Comment Rules in order for the affairs of the
Commission to be conducted in a courteous and orderly manner.
V. PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
A. Conditional Privilege Application No. 128-2012: by Zero’s Subs, Inc. T/A The
Jewish Mother Deli & Grille, to allow live entertainment at The Jewish Mother Deli
& Grille at 2 Towne Centre Way [LRSN 4004599]. The restaurant is part of the
larger 14.4± acre Hampton Towne Centre development and is zoned Langley
Flight Approach—Limited Business II (M-5D) and Neighborhood Commercial (C-
1), which permits live entertainment in conjunction with a restaurant subject to
securing a Conditional Privilege. The Hampton Community Plan (2006, as
amended) recommends commercial for this area.
Planner Alison Alexander stated Conditional Privilege 128-2012, by Zero’s Subs,
Inc. T/A as The Jewish Mother Deli & Grille is a request for a conditional privilege for Live
Entertainment II to allow live entertainment to include acoustic acts, local two or three
cover bands, jazz, and comedy.
The property is located at 2 Town Centre Way and is zoned C-1 (Neighborhood
Commercial District) and M-5D (Langley Flight Approach-Limited Business II) which
permits live entertainment in conjunction with a restaurant subject to approval of a
conditional privilege. The rear of the property is zoned M5-D which is the Langley Flight
Approach. The purpose of this area is to regulate development that is incompatible
with military operations and to protect and preserve the public health, safety and
welfare.
This conditional privilege will not increase the intensity of the use in the Langley
Flight Approach and in accordance with the Memorandum of Understanding with
Langley they have looked over the application and have no objections.
The application supports several of the Hampton Community Plan (2006, as
amended) policies such as supporting economic development priorities; expanding
entertainment opportunities; nurturing small business; and promoting Hampton as a
regional retail destination.
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The application has ten conditions attached to it such as hours of operation;
maximum allowable capacity; sound; term of permit; and a revocation clause.
Staff recommends approval of Conditional Privilege 128-2012 subject to ten (10)
conditions.
Mike Culbert, 118F Little Bay Avenue, Yorktown, Virginia, owner and operator of
the Jewish Mother Grille stated he was available for any questions.
In response to Commissioner Williams, Mr. Culbert stated Scotty Miller still owns
the Jewish Mother in Norfolk and Virginia Beach and he owns the one in Hampton.
In response to Chairman Campbell, Mr. Culbert stated that due to the small size
and shape of his restaurant entertainment will be acoustical during the week with a
guitarist playing to liven things up to make a more fun environment for people to enjoy
their meals; a jazz saxophone for Sunday brunch; possibly joining a comedy circuit and
having an open mike night; maybe a karaoke night one night a week or a cover band
on Friday or Saturday. The Jewish Mother has a 40 year reputation for providing live,
local entertainment. Most of the entertainment will be during the evenings from 8:00 or
9:00 PM to 11:00 or 12:00 PM.
When asked about not having held a community meeting, Mr. Culbert stated he
had not realized how quickly the time came up and there was not enough time to send
out a notice.
There were no public speakers.
After discussion, the Commission approved the following resolution:
WHEREAS: the Hampton Planning Commission has before it this day a
proposal by Zero’s Subs, Inc. T/A The Jewish Mother Deli & Grille to
permit live entertainment in a restaurant at 2 Towne Centre Way
[LRSN 4004599];
WHEREAS: the Hampton Community Plan (2006 as amended) recommends
commercial use for this property, and the plan encourages an
environment that promotes the continued growth of small
businesses;
WHEREAS: the site is currently zoned Neighborhood Commercial (C-1) District
and Langley Flight Approach – Limited Business II (M-5D) District
which permits Live Entertainment 2 in conjunction with a restaurant
with an approved Conditional Privilege;
WHEREAS: ten conditions are attached to address hours of operation,
capacity, sound, and a termination clause; and
WHEREAS: no one from the public spoke for or against this proposal.
NOW, THEREFORE, on a motion by Commissioner Gaynette LaRue and seconded
by Commissioner James Young,
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BE IT RESOLVED that the Hampton Planning Commission does recommend to City
Council approval of Conditional Privilege Application No. 128-2012,
subject to ten (10) conditions.
A roll call vote on the motion resulted as follows:
AYES: Larue, Young, McCloud, Williams, Bunting, Campbell
NAYS: None
ABST: None
ABSENT: Snead
VI: Community Development director’s Report
A: Teen Center Update
Debbie Russell, Administrator for Youth Education Family Services for the City of
Hampton which includes the city’s Before and After School Program; Healthy Families;
the Teen Center; and Infant Toddler Connections and many other programs for the city,
stated she has had the opportunity to be involved with the Teen Center over the past
couple of years and has seen an evolution of what the Teen Center means. It has
taken a number of years of planning and thought among the young people in
Hampton and many city departments about what it would be. When it opened it
centered around a youth inspired, youth focused facility where all youth can discover
their potential and participate in a variety of activities that challenges their minds,
bodies and spirit and positively impacts who they are and who they will become in the
community. The teen center has a focus of working with young people primarily in high
school from 13 to the age of 18. Teen Center programs and outside organization
sponsored events provide services in the areas of wellness and fitness; expressive and
fine arts; civic, social and cultural identity; academic success; career exploration and
workforce development; and personal direction and success.
One of the things the Teen Center has tried to do over the years is provide
programs that meet the needs of young people. As resources have not been available
in this economy to invest in a lot of programs and activities, finances are used to staff
and operate the building. In recognizing this, the Teen Center has looked at how to
take this facility and make it an available resource to all young people in the
community. Ms. Russell stated it is her belief the teen center is a jewel in Hampton’s
crown that many have not yet discovered.
In order to maintain the programs and maintain high standards both of the
facility and the resources and services provided, the Teen Center has embarked on a
journey inviting and engaging other organizations that serve young people and to
utilize this facility in the delivery of those services. There are a number of non-profit
organizations; committed citizens; and faith based organizations providing services to
young people but struggle with where to provide it, how to offer it and how to have the
resources to provide it. It has become the Teen Center’s roll within the community to
provide a facility to help these groups. Several examples were given of both private
and public sectors, including schools and Parks and Recreation, using the Teen Center.
The facility has also been opened up to Social Services for their Foster Care Family
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luncheon and the Boys and Girls Club use the facility throughout the year for their lock-
ins.
There are 268 youth members currently enrolled in the Teen Center.
Membership is free for Hampton youth and $25 for those who reside outside the city.
During the summer, as summer is a quiet time, there is an average of five new members
per month, with most of their activity during the school year with students who are
bused after school from the four area high schools. The summer afternoons they are
open there are 95 to 135 participants.
In August they will be shut down to finish their renovation work. Some of the
outlined fall activities include a practice dance studio on the first floor; homework and
study lounge; swim lessons; “Youth boardroom” which includes high tech audio and
visual resources; and home-school programs. The facility will be open Monday through
Friday and will provide transportation from the four area high schools.
In response to a question by Chairman Campbell, Ms. Russell explained the hours
of operation with the higher demand during the school year, and that the facility is
available for rental use.
Allison Nelson, director of the Teen Center, explained the rental fee schedule.
Regardless of the rental use there is a $50 facility use fee to help recover the cost of
general wear and tear on the building (carpet, bathrooms, janitorial services etc.).
Depending on when used, whether it is the full facility or part of the rooms, there
is an hourly rate. Part of what they try to do at the Teen Center is to create a safe and
nurturing environment and they have to have staff on site at all times due to the size of
the facility and the way it is laid out. There is a minimum of two staff people for each
rental to work and make sure that the facility is ready to go. People are loaded in and
out in a specific way to make sure the facility is secure. There is a minimum rental time
of four hours on the weekend because of the amount of time it takes to cleanup and
get people in and out. Rates have been checked out in the community to make sure
a quality program is provided at a reduced rate with rates based on cost recovery only.
If a group has a financial issue and is unable to pay the rental fee, the center will work
with them to see if the event can be co-sponsored or if they can partner with someone
to ensure that finances are not an excuse for not being able to use the Hampton Teen
Center.
In response to a question by Commissioner Campbell, Ms. Nelson stated the rates
are not published on the web site because they are done on a case-by-case basis.
In response to a question by Commissioner Young, Ms. Russell stated donations
can be accepted but they cannot just do a solicitation. They have actively done
specific partnerships and can’t solicit private donations because there is a Teen Center
Board that is a separate non-profit and donations can be made to that Board.
Donations can also be made to the City and can be designated to specific activities.
In reply to a question by Chairman Campbell, Ms. Russell stated it is her belief the
Teen Center is living up to its potential as the center is doing what it can at this time in
providing services to young people. There is room for growth and opportunity. The
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center is on the right path offering a safe, nurturing place for kids and the kids are
taking ownership and responsibility for the center.
Terry O’Neill, Secretary to the Commission stated he has been involved with the
Teen Center from the beginning of its idea. He stated it is Important to realize that,
unfortunately for the center and the city, the center was opened at the time when the
economy and revenue were not doing well. The center’s ultimate potential has not
been explored as things are constrained in an economy like this. A lot of people are
doing a lot with what they have and are looking forward to better days.
In response to a question by Chairman Young, Ms. Russell stated tutoring is not
currently being offered but there is a group looking at running a tutorial and literacy
program for them. They have a place to do the tutoring and are looking for a partner
that has that skill to come in and help with it.
In response to a question by Commissioner LaRue, Ms. Russell stated the center is
actively working on their goal to have kids come straight from school and use the Teen
Center as a social center for after school hours. There was one school last year where
no one was getting on the van. This year they are wondering if the van will be big
enough because there are so many kids interested. Staff has met with the new
president of the Hampton Council PTA and talked about how the PTA’s will help get the
word out. Resources are not available to do the marketing to let people know they
are there, but once kids find them they come back.
Commissioner McCloud stated he appreciated the feedback on Ms. Russell’s
report.
In response to a question by Commissioner McCloud, Ms. Russell stated the more
difficult part of the transportation problem is how to get the young people home. The
bus picks them up at the different schools and there is an HRT stop at the Teen Center
where they can catch a bus to go home. The students rely on parents, each other and
some ride their bikes. Getting them home is something that has to be figured out. The
center has staffing for only two drivers and two vans that go to the schools to pick up
the students. The bus fee is $10 per month and if the school or a parent registering a
student identify and ascertain that a student cannot afford to pay for the
transportation, the fee can be waived.
Allison Nelson will be the contact to help connect students and organizations
wanting to get involved.
In response to a question by Commissioner Williams, Allison Nelson stated they
are getting ready to address at risk students who are economically or academically
challenged and who usually get left behind. The Teen Center has not been marketed
well in the past to the school system and there have been many missed opportunities.
Their team has met to see how to get this information out and get people in their door.
Appointments are being set with principals, counselors and PTA’s. The center wants
announcements made daily with reminders of the Teen Center and what is happening.
They are open for suggestions.
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Chairman Campbell and the Commissioners thanked Debbie Russell and Allison
Nelson for their informative presentation.
In response to a question by Chairman Campbell, Ms. Russell stated volunteers
are involved to help with staffing issues. For after hours use, volunteers need to be
active on a repetitive basis based on the criteria of opening, closing and safety of the
facility.
B. Historic Preservation
Terry O’Neill stated Keith Cannady, Planning and Zoning Administration Manager
would introduce this item. Planner Alison Alexander will then present information the
staff has put together.
Mr. Cannady stated a little background on this subject might be helpful and that
this is an informational briefing no recommendation or action is required. There has
been some increased interest in historic preservation in the community a lot of which is
due to the activities at Fort Monroe and its recognition as a National Historic Landmark
and the significant designation as a National Monument. Within the last four years
some districts of the city have been recognized, three districts in particular, as state and
federal historic districts.
Mr. Cannady stated periodically an application for a rezoning will be seen that is
in one of these districts and it may become an issue as a part of that. Staff decided it
was important to do a little homework and find out where the districts are located in
Hampton. They have been impressed with what was found and how those districts may
or may not be protected under their current guidelines. Staff thought it important to
take this opportunity to share the information with the Commission. There is a local
zoning district on the books in Hampton that has never been mapped. Staff is in the
process of evaluating other places where it would be appropriate to increase
protection for those resources.
Mr. Cannady stated Alison Alexander and Jeff Conkle have done a lot of hard
work on this and will share what has been found over the last few months.
Jeff Conkle stated the actual resources identified in Hampton are mostly through
state and federal efforts. A map was presented which showed the ten state or national
districts located within the city. Those in orange are the national districts which are also
state districts. The three in yellow are just recognized by the state but are in the process
of being recognized by the national government. The ten districts significant in their
own way are:
Aberdeen Gardens Historic District - an historic district recognized for being an early
planned community for the African-American population on the Peninsula
Downtown Hampton Historic District - one of the earliest examples of town planning in
America which still retains some 1900 century architecture from when the city was
burned in 1861
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Fort Monroe Historic District – notable for many things – most significantly for its role in
the Civil War as a haven for the escaped slave
Fort Wool Historic District – recognized for the importance in protecting the harbor of
Hampton Roads and being the location where Abraham Lincoln watched the Union
Army seize the city of Norfolk.
Hampton University – Hampton Institute Historic District - recognized as one of the
earliest institution of higher education for African-Americans in the US
NASA Langley Research Center Historic District – important for its role in the
development of American aerospace technology
Old Wythe Historic District – a classic streetcar suburb from the late 1800’s and early
1900’s with architectural styles from the era which still stand
Pasture Point Historic District – significant as an early suburb of Hampton with a lot of
intact residential architecture
Phoebus Historic District - a classic example of small town America that retains a lot of
its original character
Victoria Boulevard Historic District – an early suburb of the city with a lot of historical
residential architecture
There are also 21 individually recognized structures all over the city, some of which
are:
• Buckroe Beach Carousel
• Buildings on Fort Monroe
• St. John’s Church
• National Cemetery
• Thimble Shoals Light Station (4 miles off the coast in the Bay)
• Chesterville Plantation - noted for its archeological value as there are no
structures remaining there
There are five national Historical Landmarks regarding the Man in Space Theme that
led to being able to put a man in space:
• Variable Density Tunnel
• Full Scale Tunnel
• Eight-Foot High Speed Tunnel
• Rendezvous Docking
• Lunar Landing Research Facility
Alison Alexander explained the risks to these historical resources as there
are risks to resources in any city. Risks to structures like those shown include:
• demolition
• lack of investment sometimes called demolition by neglect
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• inappropriate development due to alteration of these structures or through infill,
which is development around the actual historic resource which is not
appropriate to its character
Ms. Alexander stated the three levels of protection are national, state and local.
The previous map displayed the different districts. They are:
National
• recognizes importance and invites preservation
• informs local, state and federal government that a resource exists
• qualifies property owners for federal tax credits
• does not prevent alterations or demolition
State
• recognizes importance and invites preservation
• informs local, state, and federal governments that a resource exists
• qualifies property owners for state tax credits
• does not prevent alterations or demolition
Local
At the local level preservation is controlled through the zoning ordinance and as
mentioned there is a district on the books but it is not currently in use.
• legitimacy comes from state enabling legislation – which provides guidelines on
establishing and implementing programs in different municipalities
• can prevent alteration or demolition – program set up by locality for specific
neighborhoods or structures
• may provide for local tax credits
Jeff Conkle explained the benefits of preservation. Included are: job creations;
heritage tourism; urban revitalization; better urban design; and various environment
benefits.
A few studies to further these points are:
Economic
• For every $1 million spent in historic rehabilitation, 5 jobs are created in
construction
• in related sectors 6 jobs are created
Heritage Tourism
• tourists visiting historic attractions stay longer, visit twice as many places and
spend more than 2 1/2 times as much as other tourists
Environmental Impact
• A surprising fact is that a new energy efficient building will take over 35 years
to recoup the energy loss by demolishing a building that already stands
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Ms. Alexander stated things that make a place somewhere one would want to
visit or live that are hard to quantify are:
Intangible benefits
• Preservation gives a distinctiveness quality to a community
• sense of place
• civic pride
• quality of life
These are things that would make Hampton “the most livable city in Virginia”.
A look was taken at the Community Plan and how it spoke to preservation. It
talks of building on Hampton’s historic strengths and assets and speaks to the built
environment and its effect on physical activity – communities that are high density and
more walkable – which is something people are saying they would like to see again -
and leading to a healthy population. A lot of the historic neighborhoods are more
walkable and dense than some of our newer developments. The Community Plan also
speaks to preserving the housing stock, increasing the value and marketability of homes
and redeveloping and revitalizing the area.
From the environmental side, the Community Plan talks about reducing waste
and construction debris is 25 percent of waste each year. Rehabilitation of homes and
other structures is definitely a way to reduce waste. The plan also talks about
promoting energy conservation through the use of green building and other
conservation techniques. At a recent preservation conference it was noted the
greenest building is the one that already exists.
In response to a question by Chairman Campbell, Ms. Alexander clarified at the
national and state level of designation one can still alter or demolish a structure and in
order to quality for tax credits the building must be preserved to standards set by the
Secretary of the Interior.
In response to a question by Commissioner Young, Mr. Conkle stated in research
the state and federal districts usually guide the local municipalities so that often all
three may align but do not necessarily have to.
In response to a question by Commissioner LaRue, Mr. Cannady stated the key
to the state and federal designation is that they create an incentive to preserve
according to certain standards. It is the “carrot approach” that states if an historically
significant structure is altered and it is done in a way that is consistent with the
significance of the building, one can get a substantial state and federal tax credit in
exchange for doing that. There is nothing that states one cannot do otherwise – it is not
a regulation that states the building must be preserved in a certain way.
In response to Commissioner LaRue, Mr. Cannady stated little has been done to
let people know when obtaining a building permit that they are in an historic district.
He stated that is why research has been done and staff is presenting this information to
the Commission. When applications are received staff will inform the Commission if a
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property is in an historic district even if it is not brought out at the public hearing. A lot
has been learned in the last six (6) months and he thought it would be good to share
the information with the Commission and find other ways to make the community
aware of the benefits and incentives that are there as well as the risks that may be
there if structures are not preserved and protected in a certain way. Staff has asked
themselves what would be a good way to get the word out and let people know that
resources are present in the city of Hampton and what the advantages are for being in
those districts.
Commissioner LaRue stated it would be a good idea of having guidelines
established to help answer some of the questions asked when working on structures in
historic districts.
Commissioner Campbell stated there should possibly be a general mailing made
to communities to let them know when houses reside in an historic district and what
could be done to rehabilitate or renovate using federal or state funds.
In response to by Chairman Campbell, Mr. Cannady stated the process is just
beginning and he would like to schedule time with the Neighborhood Commissions and
other groups that would want to know this information.
In response to a question by Commissioner Williams, Mr. Conkle stated the prior
list is an exhaustive list of everything officially recognized as an historic resource in
Hampton. A lot of those have been added in the last few years. There has been some
effort to add new things to the state or federal registers. Typically in the research one of
the main duties of the local preservation board and city staff that would support it is to
actively identity possible new districts or buildings that would be eligible for protection.
Chairman Campbell thanked staff for the great information.
VII. Items by the Public
There were no items by the public.
VIII. Matters by the Commission
There were no matters by the Commission.
IX. Adjournment
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 4:46 p.m.
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Respectfully submitted,
_______________________________
Terry O’Neill
Secretary to Commission
APPROVED BY:
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Carlton Campbell
Chairman
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Agenda
PLANNING COMMISSION
City of Hampton, Virginia
CHAIRMAN: Carlton Campbell
VICE-CHAIRMAN: Gregory Williams
COMMISSIONERS: Mary Bunting, Gaynette LaRue,
Andre McCloud, Chris Snead, James Young
WORK SESSION
August 2, 2012 @ 3:00 PM – Lawson Conference Room
I. Questions about agenda items
MEETING AGENDA
August 2, 2012 @ 3:30 PM – City Council Chambers
I. Call to Order
II. Roll Call
III. Minutes of the July 5, 2012 Work Session and Planning Commission Meeting
IV. Staff Reports
A. Youth Planner Report
V. Public Hearing Items
A. Conditional Privilege Application No. 128-2012: by Zero’s Subs, Inc. T/A The Jewish Mother
Deli & Grille, to allow live entertainment at The Jewish Mother Deli & Grille at 2 Towne
Centre Way [LRSN 4004599]. The restaurant is part of the larger 14.4± acre Hampton Towne
Centre development and is zoned Langley Flight Approach—Limited Business II (M-5D) and
Neighborhood Commercial (C-1), which permits live entertainment in conjunction with a
restaurant subject to securing a Conditional Privilege. The Hampton Community Plan
(2006, as amended) recommends commercial for this area. Staff Contact: Alison
Alexander, 728-5238 or aalexander@hampton.gov.
VI. Community Development Director’s Report
A. Teen Center Update
B. Historic Preservation
VII. Items by the Public
VIII. Matters by the Commission
IX. Adjournment
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CITY OF HAMPTON
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HAMPTON, VA 23669
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