Purchasing & Procurement Oversight Committee Agendas & Minutes
Regular MeetingHampton, VA · September 21, 2011
Minutes
PURCHASING & PROCUREMENT
OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE (PPOC)
IDA Conference Room – 6th Floor – Ruppert Sargent Building
Meeting Minutes – September 21, 2011
Call to Order – Michael Graves, Chairman, called the meeting to order at 12:30 p.m.
Committee Member Attendance: A roll call was taken by Jessica Spencer:
Members Present – Michael Graves, Chairman; Martin Cross, Eddie Deerfield, Crystal Kleiber,
Dave Pearson, Teresa Walker and George Wallace.
Members Absent – Lauren Yee (with notification), William Brown, James Crocker and Eugene
Johnson.
Staff and Citizen Attendance:
Legal Representation: Cynthia Hudson, City Attorney
Staff Present: Jessica Spencer, Arnelia Hancock, Pete Peterson, Karl Daughtrey, Suzy Scott,
Victor Hellman, Doris McRae, Denise Howard and Debbi Brightbill (recorder)
Staff Absent: All staff were present.
Citizens in Attendance – Edwin Boone
Approval of Minutes: The minutes of the June 15, 2011 meeting were unanimously approved.
Unfinished Business: There was no unfinished business to discuss.
New Business
Introduction of Contract Compliance Specialist: Ms. Spencer introduced Ms. Arnelia Hancock,
the new Contract Compliance Specialist with the Minority Business Program. Ms. Hancock
addressed the members and shared information regarding her family, previous experience as well
as her goals in this position.
Rules of Engagement: Ms. Spencer distributed “PROTOCOL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT
PERIOD” and “PPOC PUBLIC COMMENT SHEET” to the committee members. In reviewing
these documents, Ms. Spencer stated she adapted a similar model of guidelines as established by
City Council. The sign-in sheet will be available to citizens as they enter the meeting. If they
wish to make comments at the end of the meeting, they must provide their name and business
affiliation. They will also be given a copy of the protocol rules to review if they wish to address
the PPOC. The sign-in sheet will be given to the Chairman of the meeting who, during “Public
Comments” time, will give each listed citizen three minutes to address the board with their
comments on policy issues. PPOC members will not engage in dialogue with the citizens.
Matters requiring a response will be directed to the Chairman for research and response.
Mr. Graves asked for any questions before calling for a vote. A motion was made and seconded
to adopt the “Protocol for Public Comments” and “PPOC Public Comment Sheet” and Mr.
Graves called for a vote.
Ayes: Graves, Cross, Deerfield, Kleiber, Pearson, Walker and Wallace
Nays: None
Hampton City Financial Reports - Ms. Howard distributed a revised copy of the City’s financial
report for the fourth quarter ending June 30, 2011. These reports were revised from those
emailed prior to the meeting to include 4 years of data from 2008-2011 in the charts at the end of
the report (pages 14, 15, 16 and 17). In a brief overview of this report, Ms. Howard explained
the reasons for significant decreases and increases of purchase order activity.
Ms. Howard reviewed the following reports: Summary of PPOC Reports , Comparison of
Purchase Order Activity, Total Purchase Order Activity by Purchasing Category, Average
Transaction Amount by Purchase Category, WBE Purchase Order Comparison, MBE Purchase
Order Comparison, Utilization Analysis for Credit Card Purchases, MBE/WBE Vendors Located
in Hampton, Race & Gender Aspirational Goals by Business Category and M/WBE
Classification Recommended vs. Actual for FYE June 30, 2011, Purchase Order Activity by
Department as well as the four-year comparison charts.
Mr. Graves commented on the report, “Average Transaction Amount by Purchasing Category”
stating the PPOC still has work to do regarding the average number of transactions of M/WBE
purchase orders compared to the total vendor amount. For example, with no M/WBE activity in
the “Miscellaneous” category, Mr. Graves felt members should be aware of reasons for the lack
of activity. Mr. Wallace asked if these figures could reflect an absence of capacity -- if the
business is not there, the vendor can’t be awarded the bid.
Mr. Graves requested vendors and contracts making significant differences to the numbers be
included on the individual reports. Ms. Howard replied the information is listed in the back of the
report but will include the details on the individual report pages next time. Mr. Daughtrey also
agreed this could be done.
In reviewing the Credit Card Purchases report, Ms. Howard stated this was the only category that
decreased from FY10. Mr. Graves asked what the credit card purchasing limit was and Mr.
Daughtrey replied it was less than $1,500 per transaction and for travel, it is approximately
$2,000. The credit card can also be used for catering services. Regarding the chart (page 15) for
Credit Card Minority Vendors 2008-2011, there was a tremendous decrease from 2008 to 2011
($761,301 in 2008 compared to $51,999 in 2011). Ms. Howard stated she did not have details on
these transactions, only a summary. Mr. Graves replied research needs to be done on this
dramatic reduction over a three-year timeframe.
Ms. Spencer asked for Ms. Howard to send her an electronic copy of the revised report and Ms.
Howard agreed.
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Ms. Kleiber commented on the year end statistics. She felt it might have been important to see
these end-of-the-year numbers before ordering a second Disparity Study. The numbers have
drastically increased since this program started indicating the positive nature of the program and
the work the departments are doing to meet performance goals. She understands there is still
work to be accomplished, but felt the PPOC should commend the Minority Business Office for
increasing these numbers. Ms. Kleiber remarked the year end totals are more satisfying than the
quarterly totals presented during last year’s meetings.
Ms. Howard concluded her report by stating that FY10 was 3.10% of minority vendors and FY11
was 9.87% of minority vendors compared to total purchase orders.
Mr. Pearson stated he would like to be able to speak more intelligently regarding the MBE
category consistently having such low numbers. There have been previous discussions regarding
the reasons for low numbers in the A&E category and it is also understood that a company can
easily be designated as a WBE. Some reasons for low numbers in the MBE category have been
the lack of business capacity not being available but he would like to have more information so
he can speak on that issue. For example, does Hampton have enough MBE businesses in the
Goods & Services category who are qualified to bid on contracts and win them? Sometimes we
say they don’t submit bids or they say they can’t perform the work or they don’t have the
necessary resources to do the work.
Ms. Spencer responded regarding the lack of participation in the A&E category and stated she
would provide a list at the next meeting of A&E vendors within, as well as outside, our region.
Hampton has increased the representation of the A&E vendors in its Small Business Directory.
There are several certified by the State but most are not located on the Peninsula.
Mr. Pearson replied he’s not as concerned about the A&E category and compared his concerns
with focusing on the areas where students have the lowest test scores. If Hampton is unable to
make an impact on the A&E category at this time, then it should focus on other categories such
as Goods & Services where it might be able to make a positive change.
Ms. Spencer replied the focus has been on construction since that is where the most dollars are
spent. Most SWaM certified firms work in construction and the directory reflects mostly
construction contractors. However, categories such as Goods & Services, Miscellaneous and
others need attention as well.
Mr. Peterson stated the Disparity Study helps us determine availability versus utilization. Since
Hampton’s study is now older, he suggested staff review the State’s recent study to see what
areas of procurement are affected.
Mr. Daughtrey replied information on bid responses by MBE firms can be provided. If
companies don’t bid on a contract, they won’t have an opportunity to win. The committee needs
to look at that data. Companies are notified in several ways of contract opportunities but they are
not bidding. The bid response by M/BE firms is approximately 3%.
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Mr. Wallace asked about the workshops sponsored by the Minority Business Office and if they
have been targeted towards the areas of concern. Ms. Spencer replied workshops have been
technically designed to assist in areas of construction. Although workshops last year were well
attended, she had to cancel three workshops in April and May due to lack of participation. A
workshop, “Partnering for Success”, designed to promote business partnerships, joint ventures,
and teaming agreements, is planned for September 29th. There are 22 people registered so far.
The workshop has been advertised at least three times and staff has also personally contacted
business owners to encourage registration.
Taxi Cab Companies: Mr. Wallace asked Ms. Spencer to document attempts made to assist
citizens in the taxi cab industry. Ms. Spencer replied contact efforts including business
incentives, training opportunities, and invitations to meet with staff for business growth
recommendations, etc., were sent via mail. However, there has not been a response to contact for
assistance. Ms. Spencer cited one citizen, Mrs. Artis, who scheduled a meeting with her. Ms.
Spencer and other staff did meet with Mrs. Artis and her two assistants and spent time gathering
information, reviewing her business plan and preparing recommendations for her. However, Mrs.
Artis has not responded to the information. The Assistance City Manager and City Attorney staff
followed up with Ms. Spencer to see if companies are responding to the opportunities but there
has been no progress to report.
Mr. Deerfield stated the City has put a burden on the taxi cab companies such as a $300,000
insurance requirement, owning a minimum of 5 vehicles and the requirement of offering 24-hour
service. Ms. Spencer replied there have been several concerns outlined with smaller cab
companies such as safety issues, lack of response for service, number of cabs available for
service and the dispatching location of the cabs (i.e., someone’s home vs. a business location).
She mentioned again that staff has had a difficult time soliciting input or involvement from the
cab owners. There are ideas to be considered that might assist one-cab owners. For example, a
one-cab owner can partner with other one-cab owners so the business partnership can qualify
according to the City’s requirements.
Mr. Wallace stated the consumer also needs to be represented. Safety and professionalism are
very important with this type of service. He cited concerns by citizens regarding this issue such
as drivers showing up for fares in tank tops and slide on shoes and the cab not appearing to be
clean or safe.
Mr. Deerfield agreed that Mr. Wallace was making a good point but shared that cab companies
(i.e., North End) are required to dispatch cabs from an office location in Hampton. Yellow Cab
Company dispatches from Norfolk. Mr. Wallace replied that Yellow Cab has an office located in
Hampton. Mr. Deerfield replied they have the money to pay for an office and smaller companies
do not. Mr. Wallace added that Hampton is willing to assist the small cab companies so they can
have the same opportunity. Mr. Deerfield replied what bothers him the most is that most of the
smaller cab companies are minorities and that’s how they make their living. Ms. Spencer
reminded everyone again of her attempts to offer business assistance and companies have not
responded. She personally contacted three small companies by phone but they did not respond to
receive further information.
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Parade of Homes: Mr. Graves asked if the City has been involved with the builders in utilizing
minority sub-contractors. Mr. Peterson explained the builders were actually the Peninsula Home
Builders Association and the City did not get involved in individual home construction projects.
Each builder purchased a lot and built the home according to guidelines. Ms. Hudson said the
POH included two homes built by minority contractors and the City, in its development
agreement, included a provision to use minority contractors as much as possible. She said the
builders were receptive to the recommendation. Ms. Hudson also said she would like to see this
type of provision included in future land development agreements whenever possible.
Mr. Peterson reminded the members that, originally, the Minority Business Office was placed
within the Economic Development department because of its involvement with commercial
development in the city. Although Ms. Spencer has spent the previous 3 years getting this
program successfully started, there will be a future need to help minority businesses settle into
the city. Ms. Hudson stated land development is not required to go through the procurement
process so staff needs to be sure to include provisions for minority involvement when negotiating
land development agreements.
Hampton City School Reports – Ms. Scott reviewed the HCS fourth quarter report ending June
30, 2011. She reviewed the cumulative numbers for purchase order activity for FY11 (8.35%:
3.43% for WBE and 4.92% for MBE) and compared it to EOY numbers for FY10 (6.85%). She
reviewed the following reports: Average Transaction Amount by Purchasing Category (4th
quarter only), WBE Purchase Order Comparison of FY10 to FY11 (April-June) and MBE
Purchase Order Comparison of FY10 to FY11 (April-June). She also presented a detailed report
on W/MBE Purchase Order Transactions (April-June). Regarding the “Average Transaction
Amount by Purchasing Category”, Ms. Scott shared that HCS has noticed there are a greater
number of WBE purchases with smaller transactions and fewer MBE vendors but with much
bigger transactions (see vendor details in the back of report.) WBE purchases are down but Ms.
Scott stated she is seeing a greater variety of vendors being used. MBE purchases have increased
2.5% in total purchase orders.
Announcements –
September Workshop: Ms. Spencer announced a training workshop on September 29 from 5:30
to 7:00 in the Hampton Veterans Conference Room of the Ruppert Sargent Building. The
presenter will be Terrence Garrett, CEO of Capitol Management and Information Engineering
Services in Chantilly, VA.
Disparity Study Update: Mr. Deerfield asked for an update on the new Disparity Study. Ms.
Spencer replied staff contacted regional cities to see if they would have an interest in partnering
with Hampton on this study. The only city indicating interest was Portsmouth. There were also
efforts by MGT of America and Chesapeake to host a meeting for representatives from each
municipality to discuss a regional study. As far as Ms. Spencer knew, the meeting has not taken
place. Funds were appropriated by City Council for a new study but staff has not moved forward
with the competitive bid process. Ms. Spencer was unsure when this would happen due to the
search for a new Procurement manager.
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Mr. Deerfield asked since funding has been approved, how long will we wait to order the new
study? This study will also help Hampton align with new federal district procurement legislation.
Mr. Peterson explained there is a 60-90 day process that must take place once the bid is
submitted to Procurement. Mr. Daughtrey and Ms. McCrae replied the information can be pulled
now for review and this does not have to wait until a new manager is hired. Ms. Spencer
requested from Ms. McCrae a copy of the competitive bid used by the City as well as the State
for the previous Disparity Study. Mr. Wallace stated we are not at a competitive disadvantage by
not having this new study in place but we need to move ahead with the process.
Procurement Manager – Mr. Daughtrey announced Lisa Cumming resigned as Procurement
Manager. Candidates for the position will be interviewed on September 29 by Mr. Daughtrey
and staff from the City as well as HCS. He’s hopeful to have a new manager in place by early
October.
Public Comments
Edwin Boone – Mr. Boone first referred to procurement and suggested the department heads
need a quarterly report indicating they are not meeting the needs of the PPOC and then need to be
written up. For the past four quarters, they have not met the requirements so should be “gotten
rid of”. This keeps dragging on and on. City Council also needs to require quarterly reports on
the department heads, whoever is in charge of procurement and those who give out the contracts.
As far as cab drivers not making contact, there is such a burden put on the minorities they give
up hope. They can’t be sitting around waiting six weeks or six months – they need to feed their
families. He is certain many of them just gave up and are doing what they used to do or are
scrambling to do something new. So, the burden is put on them and, if they do something
outside that burden, they get a ticket they cannot afford. With the City putting all these rules and
regulations on them, it is stopping the minorities and women, especially the minorities, from
advancing. If they get a foothold on something, the rug is snatched from under them.
Mr. Wallace responded they are offered all types of opportunities so the rug will stay under their
feet. If they don’t take advantage of those opportunities, it’s on them.
Mr. Boone asked what the advantage was of requiring one person to own five cars.
Mr. Wallace explained the advantage would be to get five individuals to form an LLC. They can
still own one cab each but they can form a limited liability corporation with each other. The City
can help them with that, but they are not taking advantage of the assistance offered.
Mr. Boone questioned why they would have to go look for more people to receive help. Why
can’t they establish a company for themselves?
Mr. Graves stated, according to the Rules of Engagement, only comments from the public are
allowed during this time and there should be no dialogue. Mr. Wallace apologized for engaging
in dialogue with Mr. Boone. Mr. Graves asked Mr. Boone if he had any final comments. Mr.
Boone said he wanted to comment on the security of the vehicles and asked if the vehicles are
being inspected.
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Ms. Hudson clarified under the Rules of Engagement the PPOC just adopted, the Chairman
would take Mr. Boone’s questions under advisement and staff will provide him an answer
following the meeting.
Mr. Boone had no further comments.
Adjournment – There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 1:35 p.m.
Next Meeting – The next meeting will be held on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 in the IDA Conference
Room, 6th floor, Ruppert Sargent Building, 1 Franklin Street, Hampton, VA 23669.
Copies forwarded to:
Mayor Molly Joseph Ward James A. Peterson, ACM Michael Graves, PPOC Chairman
Vice-Mayor George E. Wallace Karl S. Daughtrey Lauren Yee, PPOC Vice-Chairman
Councilman Christopher G. Stuart Jessica Spencer Crystal Kleiber
Councilman Will Moffett Arnelia Hancock James Crocker
Councilwoman Angela Lee Leary Doris McRae Eugene Johnson
Councilman Ross A. Kearney, II Denise Howard Teresa Walker
Councilman Donnie Tuck Victor Hellman Martin Cross
School Board Member, Dave Pearson Suzanna Scott Eddie Deerfield
City Manager, Mary Bunting William Brown
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Agenda
PURCHASING AND PROCUREMENT OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE
MEETING
Wednesday, September 21, 2011
IDA CONFERENCE ROOM – 6th FLOOR
Ruppert Sargeant Building
AGENDA
I. CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
II. APPROVAL OF June 15, 2011 MEETING MINUTES
III. NEW BUSINESS
• Introduction of Compliance Specialist-Arnelia
Hancock
• Rules of Engagement-Jessica R. Spencer
• City Report-Denise Howard
• City School Report-Suzy Scott
IV. ANNOUCEMENTS
V. PUBLIC COMMENTS
VII. ADJOURNMENT
NEXT MEETING IS OCTOBER 19th AT 12:30PM IN THE IDA CONFERENCE ROOM, 6TH
FLOOR OF THE RUPERT SARGEANT BUILDING.
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