5b Hanover Area Fire and Rescue Commission
Regular MeetingHanover, PA · November 19, 2020
Minutes
Minutes
Hanover Area Fire and Rescue Commission
Meeting Held Thursday, November 19, 2020 at 5:30 p.m.
Via ZOOM
The Hanover Area Fire and Rescue Commission met November 19, 2020 via the virtual platform
ZOOM.
Present at the meeting:
• Hanover Area Fire and Rescue Commission Chairman Bertram Elsner
• Penn Township Commissioners Michael Brown, Jan Cromer and Manager Kristina Rodgers
• Hanover Borough Councilman Christopher Lockard
• Hanover Area Fire and Rescue Chief Anthony Clousher, Treasurer Sam Miller, EMS Captain
Claudia Christensen and Executive Assistant Vanessa Larson
• Volunteers Steve Otis and Jeffrey Spielman representing Hanover Area Volunteer Fire and
Rescue
• EMA Coordinator Jeff Waltman and Solicitor Cory Iannacone
NOTE: The virtual meeting statement read by Treasurer Sam Miller prior to the opening of this
meeting is shown at the end of these minutes.
Chairman Elsner called the meeting to order at 5:32 p.m. Secretary Larson completed a rollcall; five
voting members are present; there is a quorum.
Announcement of Executive Session:
Chief Clousher requested an Executive Session be held at the conclusion of this meeting to
discuss a personnel matter.
Public Comment: None
Approval of the Minutes:
Members Cromer and Otis moved for the approval of the minutes from the October 15, 2020
meeting. Motion carried unanimously.
Approval of October 2020 Fire Report:
Members Lockard and Spielman moved for the approval of the October 2020 Fire Report. Motion
carried unanimously.
Treasurers Report:
o Referring to the Oct. 2020 Financial Report, there are line items both over and under budget.
Building repairs are slightly over projection due to the ESG project, and we expect to have
offsetting savings with other categories. Everything is trending as expected for the 2020
actual and we should end the year more positive than what the October P&L is showing.
o We are also awaiting the finalization of the PEMA and FEMA submissions, slightly over
$16,000 was requested.
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o As of this week, PTVES owes the Commission just over $300,000. That will improve through
year-end as the solicitation funds are starting to come in and ambulance billing picking up.
o The Hanover Borough Council will vote at the November 24th meeting on pre-funding the
Commission’s first quarter 2021 allotment if necessary.
o Members Lockard and Brown moved for the approval of the October 2020 Accounts Payable
checks runs. Motion carried unanimously.
Committee Reports
o Labor Relations:
o Commissioner Cromer noted his request at the October meeting to begin discussion on
the merger of the two fire contracts. At that time, Commissioner Brown suggested it
be tabled until the November meeting.
o Mr. Otis suggested starting the conversation and Commissioner Brown agreed. Chief
Clousher also stated he believes the union is amicable to opening up discussion.
At this time, Mr. Spielman suggested a committee be formed to begin this project.
Chief Clousher stated this may be addressed in the Bylaw discussion later in this
meeting and subsequent approval of those Bylaws.
o Administrative:
o Chief Clousher spoke of the amended Volunteer agreement and the removal of the
Relief Association. He noted what the term ‘Company’ meant in the agreement and
the Volunteer’s intent is they are establishing a Capital Equipment fund in their name
for the sale of their equipment, which in turn would help us monetarily to replace
apparatus. The EMS units with appraised value were also added to the agreement.
o Commissioner Cromer questioned the 501(c)3 and how that tied into leasing the
equipment. Attorney Iannacone stated he contacted (via email) both the Volunteer’s
attorney and the Attorney General’s office who requested a response as well as
multiple documents (from the Volunteer’s attorney) to make a full assessment.
Mr. Iannacone did not receive an email response from the request.
o Commissioner Brown called for a vote to lease the equipment. Attorney Iannacone
suggested a resolution be made to authorize.
o Motion made to authorize the preparation of a resolution to adopt the asset and service
agreement with the Volunteer organization. Resolution to be presented at the
December 2020 meeting. Members Otis and Brown moved for approval. Motion
carried unanimously.
o Financial:
o Budget Review & Discussion
o Chief Clousher stated the Penn Twp. Board of Commissioners will vote on our
2021 budget at their upcoming meeting.
o Facilities:
o Member Spielman reported that work is nearing completion with ESG. A meeting will
take place within the next week to finish up a few items.
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o Operations:
o Chief Clousher met with the captains to discuss COVID and review the
Epidemiological Plan that was created in May. With the uptick of COVID cases,
we have entered Phase 2 of that plan.
o Equipment:
o Chief Clousher reported on the 2010 KME (Engine 79-3, compressed air system
pumper) pump that has had some very costly repairs. Consequently, that pump system
will be shut down and ran as a Class A foam pumper.
o Fire Chief’s Report:
o Chief Clousher discussed the new procedure to send out background information on
agenda items.
o EMS Report: Claudia Christensen
o In October EMS ran 399 calls with 389 of those billable. There has been a significant
uptick in COVID cases. Daily, at least one COVID positive patient is transported, an
80% increase over the spring COVID-related transports. (Wellspan does not notify us
of a positive patient while UPMC does.) Several employees have been affected with
family members or themselves having potential exposure and waiting for test results.
o We are working on how to quickly and easily obtain COVID tests and results for our
EMS and firefighters when there is a suspected exposure. We are working through
Emergency Health Services Federation to clear that path.
o EMA Report: Jeff Waltman
o Total PEMA/FEMA reimbursement has been approved for $16,495.13, with a portion
of that (75%) to be released shortly. We do have remaining expenses to submit for
reimbursement of the balance.
o COVID-19 positive cases have increased significantly, but due to current available
medications, there is a smaller number of ICU admits. However, Pennsylvania is at
risk of having the hospital systems overwhelmed.
o Josh Otis has been approved for the EMA Deputy Coordinator position by Penn
Township and the Borough of Hanover.
Unfinished Business: No Discussion
New Business:
o Chief Clousher spoke about the revision of the bylaws and previous discussion on forming
two committees (Finance/Personnel and Building/Apparatus). A draft of the revised document
(reviewed by Attorney Iannacone) was sent to Commission members prior to this meeting for
review. Chief Clousher asked for input on the draft document, there were no questions or
concerns. Chair Elsner stated the revised bylaws as distributed will be voted on at the
December 17, 2020 meeting.
o Unemployment Compensation status: Chief Clousher asked for direction on our annual
election status as a Reimbursable or Non-Reimbursable employer. After a lengthy discussion,
members Cromer and Otis moved to elect Reimbursable status for FY 2021. Motion carried
unanimously.
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o Discussion then ensued on the payment of the FY 2021 Unemployment Compensation
Solvency Fee (due December 2). Attorney Iannacone will research, clarify, and send a group
email.
Chair Elsner and Chief Clousher will make a decision based on that email and feedback from
Commission members. The decision made to either pay the Solvency Fee or not will be
ratified at the December 2020 meeting.
Public Comment: None
At 6:41 p.m. motion to adjourn made by members Brown and Lockard. Motion carried unanimously.
The next meeting is scheduled for Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 5:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Vanessa Larson
Recording Secretary
VIRTUAL MEETING STATEMENT:
Treasurer Miller opened the meeting with the following statement:
Good evening and welcome to the Hanover Are Fire and Rescue Commission Meeting this 19th day
of November 2020. My name is Sam Miller, I am the Treasurer for the Commission, and will be
administering this Zoom meeting tonight.
Please note that this presentation along, with any individual video feeds and unmuted
communications during our public comments section that are occurring, are recorded and will be
made available for viewing through shared video link thereafter. A log of the chat feature will also
be taken to assist with any documentation of minutes.
Due to current limitations on indoor capacities and social distancing requirements, we are currently
not performing this meeting in-person. In accordance with Act 15 of 2020, this meeting was legally
posted in advance and will provide adequate ability for public comment as required under this
legislation while we remain in the Governor’s Emergency Declaration period.
Throughout the meeting, all members of Commission, Managers of each municipality, Solicitor,
Treasurer, and Secretary will be unmuted. All public will have the ability to comment during the
meeting at designated public comment sections of our agenda, and I will facilitate that with our
participants. Thank you for your understanding and patience as we proceed.
I will now turn the meeting over to Commission Chair Bert Elsner.
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Agenda
Agenda
Hanover Area Fire and Rescue Commission
Thursday, November 19, 2020 at 5:30 p.m.
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1. Call to Order of the Meeting
2. Declaration of a Quorum
3. Announcement of Executive Session
4. Public Comment
5. Approval of the October 2020 Minutes
6. Consider a motion to approve the October 2020 Fire Report
7. Treasurer’s Report
a. October 2020 Financial Report
b. Motion to approve the October 2020 Accounts Payable check runs
8. Committee Reports
a. Labor Relations
b. Administrative – Review Volunteer Agreement
c. Financial – 2021 Budget
d. Facilities
e. Operations
f. Equipment-
1. Engine 79-3 pump expenses
9. Fire Chief’s Report
a. EMS Captain to provide an update related to EMS
10. EMA Report – November 2020
11. Unfinished Business
12. New Business
a. Discuss the revision to Bylaws
b. UE Comp registration- reimbursable vs Non-reimbursable
13. Public Comment
14. Adjournment
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