City Council
Regular MeetingHarrisonburg, VA · November 26, 2019
Minutes
409 S. Main Street
City of Harrisonburg Harrisonburg, VA 22801
Meeting Minutes - Final
City Council
Tuesday, November 26, 2019 7:00 PM Council Chambers
1. Roll Call
Present: 5- Mayor Deanna R. Reed, Vice-Mayor Sal Romero, Council Member Richard Baugh,
Council Member Christopher B. Jones and Council Member George Hirschmann
Also Present: 4- City Manager Eric Campbell, City Clerk Pam Ulmer, City Attorney Chris Brown and
Police Chief Eric English
2. Invocation
Council Member Hirschmann offered the invocation.
3. Pledge of Allegiance
Mayor Reed led the Pledge of Allegiance.
4. Special Recognition
4.a. Recognition of the 2019 Citizens Academy Graduates
Mayor Reed introduced Mr. Michael Parks, Director of Communications to recognize
the 2019 Citizen Academy graduates. Mr. Parks stated every year residents can sign
up for the Citizens Academy which is a 12-week course, covering every service the
city offers. He thanked city staff and directors for taking part in this event with such
excitement, enthusiasm and commitment. He asked all graduates to stand. Mayor
Reed asked the graduates to come to the front for a photograph.
5. Consent Agenda (any item placed on the consent agenda shall be removed and
taken up as a separate matter, if so requested by any member of Council, otherwise all
items will be voted on with one (1) motion)
A motion was made by Council Member Baugh, seconded by Council Member Hirschmann,
to approve the consent agenda as presented. The motion carried with a recorded roll call
vote taken as follows:
Yes: 5- Mayor Reed, Vice-Mayor Romero, Council Member Baugh, Council Member Jones
and Council Member Hirschmann
No: 0
5.a. Minutes from the November 12, 2019 City Council Meeting
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These minutes were approved on the consent agenda
6. Public Hearings
7. Regular Items
7.a. Consider repealing a denial from the Public Tree Advisory Board
Chris Brown, city attorney, presented a request to appeal a denial from the Public
Tree Advisory Board. He reviewed the purpose and authority of the board. He
stated the advisory board voted in denial of the request 6-3 with the majority feeling
the tree was very healthy, matched the other trees and felt the request was more of a
convenience to the applicant.
Dan Hylton, representative of First Presbyterian Church, stated the plan was /is to
demolish a building, in which the tree in question sits in front of, and replace it with a
courtyard. He stated architects were hired and the demolition contractor stated the
tree needed to be removed to safely and efficiently demolish the building and it would
be impossible to work around. He provided a handout of a rendering of what the
court yard would look like. He stated if Council allows the tree to be removed it would
be replaced by two trees or if not acceptable, the church would replace with another
Chinese Elm of the same size in the same location once demolition is complete.
Council Member Hirschmann asked if the tree could be relocated. Mr. Hylton stated
due to the size of the tree and its location in order to remove the tree it would cause
significant damage to the sidewalk and asphalt.
Council Member Baugh asked if any new information is being presented to Council
that was not presented to the advisory board and if there were any other
recommendations made by the board. Mr. Hylton stated the contractor stated he
could not demolish the building without the tree being removed.
Vice Mayor Romero stated Mr. Fletcher, director of Community Development, voted
against the request
A motion was made by Council Member Baugh, seconded by Council Member Hirschman, to
affirm the Public Tree Advisory Board’s decision and deny the request as presented.
Yes: 1- Council Member Baugh
No: 4- Mayor Reed, Vice-Mayor Romero, Council Member Jones and Council Member
Hirschmann
Council Member Hirschmann asked if trimming the lower branches would be enough
to allow for placement of the dumpster. Mr. Hylton stated it was considered but would
not be sufficient. Council Member Jones stated Mr. Hylton mentioned the tree could
be replaced with two trees or one similar size same tree dependent on what Council
approves. Vice Mayor Romero stated he feels we should allow them to remove the
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tree and plant another one in its place. Council Member Jones stated he doesn ’t
want to slow down economic development and beautification of downtown, especially
since they are willing to replace the tree.
A motion was made by Vice Mayor Romero, seconded by Council Member Jones, to approve
the request that the tree be removed and replaced upon construction. The motion carried
with a recorded roll call vote taken as follows:
Yes: 4- Mayor Reed, Vice-Mayor Romero, Council Member Jones and Council Member
Hirschmann
No: 1- Council Member Baugh
7.b. Presentation from the Harrisonburg City Public Schools on the second high school
build.
Dr. Michael Richards, superintendent of Harrisonburg City Public Schools, stated he
is presenting two options to council on solving the overcrowding problem at
Harrisonburg High School. He stated these options will alleviate the overcrowding by
the opening of the new school for the school year 2022/2023 school year. He stated
we must solve this problem of overcrowding and any date beyond 2022 is untenable
given the student enrollment projections. He stated the two options have been
approved by the School Board and include a thorough comparison of the two options
including the scope and pricing as well as a property tax and debt capacity impact
summary. He reviewed the two options:
Option One - Building costs as designed:
1. Includes stadium with artificial surface, all associated buildings
and equipment
2. Includes softball and baseball stadiums and all associated
buildings, fields and equipment
3. Includes tennis courts and associated equipment
4. Includes auxiliary gymnasium and associated equipment
5. Includes North and West practice fields
6. Includes main parking lots, bus loop and multi-use paths
7. Includes site work, the building and design costs
8. Does not include infrastructure improvements to support building
9. Does not included the cost of the interim Agreement design fees
paid
10. Does not include the site/building/design/soft costs requested by
HCPS
11. The estimated request from the School Board is
$92,470,737.09
12. The estimated total project cost is $109,838,233.50
13. The estimated bond amount would be $104,838,233.50
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Option Two - Phased in Build
1. Does not include the cost of item 4 above, expected to be
completed in 2023
2. Does not included the cost of items 2 and 3 above expected to
be completed in 2024
3. Does not included the costs of items 1 and 5 above expected to
be completed in 2025
4. The estimated request from the School Board is
$84,733,878.25
5. The estimated total project cost is $102,101,377.66
6. The estimated bond amount would be $97,101,377.66
He stated if one looks at the last four high schools that were built in the state of
Virginia over the last three years, the price of the building was $ 8.2M more than the
proposed building for the new high school of $63.2M. He stated the contractor has
stated the cost of the building is below the average for the state at the price per
square foot of $239.97. He reviewed the estimated tax implications dependent on
which option is chosen.
Eric Campbell, city manager, stated there are things he and Dr. Richards agree on :
the overcrowding problem, we have a responsibility to help fund and solve the
problem, the Council has already authorized the building of a second high school, the
land was purchased already for the second high school, Council funded the interim
agreement for the design and has invested over $8M already to make this project
happen. He stated we aren’t arguing whether there should be a second high school.
He stated as city manager he needs to take a broader view of the impact of the tax
increase, the impact on the debt capacity and the impact on core services. He stated
the high school is often discussed in a vacuum, but the taxes, debt capacity and core
services are for all of the services provided by the city, not just educational services .
He stated it is important to remember that when the new school is discussed. He
stated his perspective is we are committed to building a second high school but the
key question is how much high school this community can afford. He stated he sees
the cost of Option 1 as problematic, it adds an additional $6M to the general fund of
the city, and the operational increase that will come once open hasn ’t even been
discussed. He stated he has heard the city can easily absorb the tax increase but if
there is a secret bulk of money, he hasn’t found it yet. He stated budgeting is not as
easy as people say it is, the current budget was balanced with $ 1.9M of fund balance
(savings account) and included a one cent tax increase. He stated these funds are
used for large purchases, usually for capital projects, where it is cheaper to pay cash
rather than borrow to purchase, i.e. street sweepers, etc. Council Member Baugh
stated we are currently in a budget where we are spending $1.9M more than
expected in revenue. Mr. Campbell stated there are many pending operational
projects such as the Eastern Water Line, vehicle replacement, Elizabeth and Water
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Street deck replacement, completion of the Smithland and Ramblewood Parks,
greenway completion, EPSAC recommendations, Downtown Master Plan, Purcell
Park Master Plan, homeless affordable housing initiatives, increase in Community
Contributions, and many other things. He stated he wants to make sure as we
discuss the new high school it is not discussing in a vacuum but in the context that it
will affect everything. He stated again, how much school can the city afford without
affecting the core services of the city.
Council Member Hirschmann asked if the taxes could be increased more than
discussed. Mr. Campbell stated there is a possibility based on the core service
needs. He stated the city manager’s concern is always the unknown.
Council Member Jones stated in May 2017 he was in favor of building one big school
and just adding an annex to the current high school. He stated he mentioned this at
the Space Study Committee and was outnumbered, which is fine, because at the end
of the day his goal was to end the overcrowding as quickly as possible. He stated no
one has focused on what we need to do with the overcrowding right now and he
thought a cheaper and quicker plan would have been to build the annex two years ago
that was affordable at the time. He stated the energy went into building another high
school, as it did in the past with the old high school downtown. He stated there is a lot
more community discussion to be had. He stated on Monday, December 2, 2019
conversation will take place regarding the expansion of Middle River Regional Jail
(MRRJ) and as much as the school is a priority to him, he always stated it was not
wise for the city to build a $100M high school and very clear of that at every meeting.
He stated the $76M voted on a year or two ago is now $33M higher. He stated
initially he wanted to vote and get the ball rolling, however after all of the emails and
conversations he has had over the past two weeks, he feels it only fair to hold a public
hearing at the next meeting on December 10, 2019.
Council Member Jones stated there is a penny that can be saved on the tax rate by
stopping the operation of the Heritage Oaks Golf Course. He stated this will also put
200 acres back in the playing field. He stated one thing he cannot do as a leader and
elected official of the city is to tell people we can’t afford one thing but end up having a
luxury item. He stated we have tons of other parks and recreation opportunities and
other golf courses in the area, and by freeing up the 200 acres it would create
opportunity for green space, forestry, up to date Parks and Recreation building, and
additional schools. He asked staff to dig a bit deeper into this possible opportunity
along with Parks and Recreation and Public Works staff.
Council Member Baugh stated the City has always been willing to entertain any
reasonable offer on the golf course but was under the impression the debt against the
golf course would need to be paid immediately upon cease of operation. Larry
Propst, finance director, stated the original bond was refinanced and are now general
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obligations bonds and the requirements to pay immediately upon cease of operation
is no longer a requirement.
Council Member Jones stated even if we approve this request today, we will be
looking at a request for a new middle school in the near future. He stated one thing
we have never done as a community is to sit back and stop and try to determine what
the big picture plan is going to be. He stated if the Weldon Cooper predictions are
correct, it’s not only student enrollment we need to consider, it is all the additional
population growth as well, as those students have family members. He is in support
of holding a Public Hearing on this item.
Vice Mayor Romero stated he has received a lot of emails of support for Option One,
and would be the plan he would vote for, keeping in mind everything that has been
talked about, people in the community want to speak on this topic to try to convince
council one way or another, therefore he is open to holding a Public Hearing. He
asked Dr. Richards if a public hearing was held on December 10, 2019 would that put
the schedule behind on the opening of the new high school in 2022. Dr. Richards
stated it would be close but possible. He stated Nielsen Builders have been very
collaborative and cooperative and it can be done.
Council Member Baugh stated the EPSAC roll out was expected to be presented at
the December 10, 2019 meeting, which means this could expand the meeting quite a
bit.
A motion was made by Council Member Baugh, seconded by Council Member Hirschmann,
to set a public hearing on this matter for December 10, 2019. The motion carried with a
recorded roll call vote taken as follows:
Yes: 5- Mayor Reed, Vice-Mayor Romero, Council Member Baugh, Council Member Jones
and Council Member Hirschmann
No: 0
7.c. Consider a refund for a portion of the 2019 Business, Professional and Occupational
License (BPOL) tax for two businesses.
Chris Brown, city attorney, stated he is presenting on behalf of the Commissioner of
Revenue and it is a request for a refund of Business, Professional and Occupational
License (BPOL) tax for two businesses. He stated Taxpayer A notified the
Commissioner of Revenue that the business had ceased business May 22, 2019 and
a prorated refund of $3,444.44 was due. He stated Taxpayer B notified the
Commissioner of Revenue that the business changed ownership on July 1, 2019 and
a prorated refund of $7,346.06 was due.
A motion was made by Council Member Baugh, seconded by Council Member Jones, to
approve the request as presented. The motion carried with a recorded roll call vote taken
as follows:
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Yes: 5- Mayor Reed, Vice-Mayor Romero, Council Member Baugh, Council Member Jones
and Council Member Hirschmann
No: 0
8. Special Event Application Requests
11. Other Matters
11.a. Comments from the public, limited to five minutes, on matters not on the regular
agenda. (Name and address are required)
James “Bucky” Berry, 30 W Washington Street, stated there are 24 days before they
are at Walmart to collect food for the food drive. He stated Chesterfield County is
hiring police officers, we need to pay officers more to retain them. He stated if we
keep borrowing money for other things our officers will keep leaving, we won ’t ever
see the fifth fire station, and most people will sell their property and leave the city. He
stated he is concerned the city will go bankrupt.
Pamayotis “Poti” Giannakaouros, stated at the last Council meeting he was running
late and did not realize an article from Josh Blevins regarding short term rentals was
taken into consideration as part of Council’s deliberations. He reviewed that article
and noted the way we deal with short term rentals nullifies the article as we have a
primary occupant condition. He stated we are not a community that is afraid of
strangers nor do we isolate those in a minority and referenced the recent short -term
rental denial at the last meeting. He stated the incident of the assistant director of
Planning and Zoning showing up on someone’s property while off-duty, asking
questions, creates fear in our residents. He stated it is not right that in this city we
should be living in fear. He stated if we stopped city enforcement of nuisances, we
could cut potentially a full-time staff member, and with that money we could seed
neighborhood associations with funds to take care of neighborhood problems
themselves without city police powers, without the cloak of anonymity, and without the
armor of sovereign immunity. He thanked the Citizens Academy for emphasizing the
best of what our city is.
Bill Koff, as a prior participant of the Citizens Academy, he gives it a double thumbs
up, it is one of the best ways to understand what it takes to make a city operate,
behind the scenes with no hiccups. He thanked Mr. Campbell and Council Member
Jones for their comments concerning the school issue as it was some of the most
robust comments on the school issue he has heard, and it is appreciated.
11.b. City Council and Staff
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Council Member Jones thanked Mr. Campbell for having the initiative to see that
Council needed to vet and participate in the National League of Cities (NLC)
convention in San Antonio the past week. He stated at first, he thought this was going
to be hard to plan for this event because of the classes and content, but when he
arrived it was truly great content and organization, and Council learned things that
could be immediately applied.
Vice Mayor Romero echoed Council Member Jones’s comments on the NLC
Conference, too many options, not enough time, but great content and every minute
was worth it.
Council Member Hirschmann stated he is working on some things regarding the
homeless housing.
Mayor Reed stated she had a great time as well at the NLC Conference, she learned
a lot, and it is good to speak to other colleagues from other cities and get ideas. She
stated she was very appreciative of the City Manager convincing them to go. She
stated the Holiday Parade will be held on December 6 beginning at 7:00 pm
downtown.
12. Boards and Commissions
12.a. Stormwater Advisory Committee (SWAC)
A motion was made by Council Member Baugh, seconded by Vice Mayor Romero, to appoint
Mr. Strosnider to fill the term on the Stormwater Advisory Committee. The motion carried
with a unanimous voice vote.
Yes: 5- Mayor Reed, Vice-Mayor Romero, Council Member Baugh, Council Member Jones
and Council Member Hirschmann
No: 0
12.b. Harrisonburg Redevelopment Housing Authority
This Boards and Commissions was tabled.
12.c. Parks and Recreation Commission (PRAC)
A motion was made by Council Member Baugh, seconded by Council Member Hirschmann,
to re-appoint Mr. Gibson and Mr. Logan to the PRAC. The motion carried with a unanimous
voice vote.
12.d. Harrisonburg Transportation Safety and Advisory Commission
A motion was made by Council Member Baugh, seconded by Council Member Hirschmann,
to re-appoint Mr. Lawrence to the TSAC. The motion carried with a unanimous voice vote.
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12.e. Planning Commission
Council Member Baugh encourages anyone to apply for the Planning Commission
vacancy because with their work load we want to appoint someone by the next
meeting. Mayor Reed stated someone just did an article on boards and
commissions and how important they are, so this is a way to get your voice at the
table. Vice Mayor Romero stated this commission provides a great learning
opportunity.
This Boards and Commissions was tabled.
12.f. Board of Equalization
A motion was made by Council Member Baugh, seconded by Council Member Jones to
re-appoint Ms. Coulter to the BOE. The motion carried with a unanimous voice vote.
13. Closed Session
13.a. Virginia Code Section 2.2-3711(A), under: Subsection 3 for a discussion of the
disposition of publicly held real estate.
At 8:14 pm a motion was made by Council Member Baugh, seconded by Council Member
Jones, to enter into closed session as authorized by the Virginia Freedom of Information Act,
Virginia Code Section 2.2-3711(A), under: Subsection 3 for a discussion of the disposition of
publicly held real estate. The motion carried with a recorded roll call vote taken as follows:
Yes: 5- Mayor Reed, Vice-Mayor Romero, Council Member Baugh, Council Member Jones
and Council Member Hirschmann
No: 0
14. Adjournment
At 8:37 p.m., the closed session ended and the regular session reconvened. City
Attorney Brown read the following statement, which was agreed to with a unanimous
recorded vote of Council: I hereby certify that to the best of my knowledge (1) only
public business matters lawfully exempted from open meeting requirements under
Chapter 37 of Title 2.2 of the Code, of Virginia, 1950, as amended, and (2) only such
public business matters as were identified in the motion by which the closed meeting
was convened were heard, discussed or considered in the closed meeting by the City
Council.
At 8:38 p.m., there being no further business and on motion adopted, the meeting
was adjourned.
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CITY CLERK MAYOR
This was adopted.
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Agenda
409 S. Main Street
City of Harrisonburg Harrisonburg, VA 22801
Meeting Agenda - Final-revised
City Council
Tuesday, November 26, 2019 7:00 PM Council Chambers
1. Roll Call
2. Invocation
3. Pledge of Allegiance
4. Special Recognition
Recognition of the 2019 Citizens Academy Graduates
5. Consent Agenda (any item placed on the consent agenda shall be removed and
taken up as a separate matter, if so requested by any member of Council, otherwise all
items will be voted on with one (1) motion)
Minutes from the November 12, 2019 City Council Meeting
Attachments: Minutes
6. Public Hearings
7. Regular Items
Consider repealing a denial from the Public Tree Advisory Board
Attachments: Letter to City Council
Application, photographs and PTAB decision
Presentation from the Harrisonburg City Public Schools on the second high school
build.
Attachments: HHS2 options and information update
Tax Debt Cap Analysis
Consider a refund for a portion of the 2019 Business, Professional and Occupational
License (BPOL) tax for two businesses.
Attachments: Memorandum
Redacted Certificate
8. Special Event Application Requests
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11. Other Matters
11.a. Comments from the public, limited to five minutes, on matters not on the regular
agenda. (Name and address are required)
11.b. City Council and Staff
12. Boards and Commissions
Stormwater Advisory Committee (SWAC)
Attachments: William Tyler Strosnider
Harrisonburg Redevelopment Housing Authority
Attachments: Thomas Hook
Nathan Brustein
Robert Reifsteck
Parks and Recreation Commission (PRAC)
Attachments: Kevin Gibson - reappointment
James Logan reappointment
Carol Rooker
Jeff Campbell
Harrisonburg Transportation Safety and Advisory Commission
Attachments: Roberta McCorkle
Kyle Lawrence - reappointment
Planning Commission
Attachments: Kevin Coffman
Board of Equalization
Attachments: Phyllis Coulter - reappointment
13. Closed Session
Virginia Code Section 2.2-3711(A), under: Subsection 3 for a discussion of the
disposition of publicly held real estate.
14. Adjournment
15 NOTE TO THE PUBLIC:
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