Environmental Performance Standards Advisory Committee
Regular MeetingHarrisonburg, VA · April 28, 2021
Minutes
City Hall
City of Harrisonburg 409 South Main Street
Harrisonburg, VA 22801
Meeting Minutes - Final
Environmental Performance Standards
Committee
Wednesday, April 28, 2021 5:00 PM Virtual
1. Call To Order
Deirdre Longacher Smeltzer called the meeting to order.
Members in attendance: Jeff Heie, Mikaela Schmitt-Harsh, Donna
Armstrong, Doug Hendren, Brian Nixon, Deirdre Longacher Smeltzer, Andy
Kohen (School Board Representative), Laura Dent (Council Representative).
Staff in attendance: Tom Hartman, Thanh Dang, Keith Thomas, Kelly Adams,
Trina Mastran.
2. Review and Approval of Meeting Summary
Deidre asked for a motion for approval of meeting summary for the January
27th EPSAC meeting. Andy Kohen made the first motion and Doug Hendren
seconded it. EPSAC members approved meeting summary unanimously.
Present 8- Doug Hendren, Jeffrey Heie, Deidre Smeltzer, Mikeala Schmitt-Harsh, Andrew
Kohen, Brian Nixon , Donna Armstrong , and Laura Dent
Absent 6- Bradley Striebig, Tom Benevento, Leons Kabongo, MuAwai Dames, Marc
Lemmond, and Joy Loving
3. New Business
a. Presentation on Moving Forward from Phase 1 to Phase 2 & 3
Trina gave a 30-minute presentation on how EPSAC and Staff move
forward with the Environmental Action Plan from Phase I to Phase
II & III. She referenced the Phase I document and when it was
completed and that it is considered the guiding document. She
reviewed the types of tasks and the responsible parties and
acknowledged how tasks vary in level of effort. Trina went on to
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describe the different phases to accomplish the EAP goals in Phase
I. She explained that setting targets and having those targets
adopted by the City Council is needed before action can occur. She
admitted that tasks in some cases overlap.
Trina reviewed the Focus Areas (FAs) and the fact that she has
added the City’s Division Managers as Leads in these areas on the
FA Group Assignment List as they are the subject area experts. She
emphasized that the EPSAC members and School Staff and others
are part of the team.
Trina then introduced Microsoft TEAMS as a platform to work
through the next phases of the EAP. She explained the onboarding
of Staff and that she wanted to train Staff and subsequently the
EPSAC members on the Teams Platform once populated. Next steps
would be to set guidelines for use and develop a website and
develop additional tools. In addition, she explained that a strategy
for monitoring and managing targets and outcomes had to be
developed. Finally, she provided a schedule.
(0:21:10) Andy Kohen stated that Andrew Ansoorian is no longer
employed with Harrisonburg City Public Schools (HCPS), and he
should be removed from the FA Group Assignment List.
Dierdre asked about the Staff person who is no longer with the
City. Trina stated it was Adam Wright who left. Adam was the City’s
Facilities Manager and had previously managed the Greenhouse
Gas (GHG) Inventory Consultant. Tom Hartman added that the City
is in the process of hiring a Facilities Manager and described the
areas of his/her responsibility. In addition, he stated that this
person would be responsible for creating the City’s Internal Energy
Team (IET) which is important to track the City’s energy usage data.
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Councilwoman Dent made positive comments on Trina’s work.
(0:25:40) Mikaela Schmitt-Harsh asked about the progress that has
been made in the last year and half, for example regional food
systems. She wanted to know if we were talking about the
progress in this meeting and noted that given the timeline, she was
worried that the EAP Phase I document would remain static. She
inquired if changes and revisions would be allowed. Trina stated
that she was going to talk about the 215 tasks in the EAP and that
she wanted the Division Managers to provide their input as far as
what in the plan is done. Trina stated that she did not see the EAP
Phase I as static. She understood the urgency to act even at a
worldwide level regarding reducing greenhouse gases, but she
stated that the basis for the EAP is the GHG Inventory. Once the
GHG Inventory is done EPSAC will see action take place. She further
explained that the GHG Inventory lays the path forward for which
actions the City would take to reduce GHG.
Deirdre referenced the last meeting discussion regarding the sense
of urgency and that time should not be wasted making changes in
the EAP; it was a matter of timing perhaps. Tom H. added he
thought it also was a matter of what EPSAC and Staff wanted to
change in the EAP. He stated he did not think changing a FA or
Guiding Goal would be an easy change but that task level items
would be easier to amend. This will happen as we get more
information. Thanh Dang believed that we could add or change
tasks if we are meeting the over arching goals and strategies. She
did not believe that an amendment would be necessary. (00:32:50)
Jeff Heie asked if a Facilities Manager must be hired to do a GHG
Inventory. Trina responded that the City the GHG Inventory is
underway and an update will be presented. Tom H. added that the
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GHG Inventory will be completed before the Facilities Manager is
hired. Trina has read these goals, strategies, and task numerous
times and this has caused her to really think about the intent of
them. She encouraged the EPSAC members to read the EAP again
thoroughly and gain an understanding of how these goals can be
achieved. She stated we are at a pivotal point in getting the GHG
Inventory completed, reviewed, and setting targets. She stated she
would want to get the targets set and adopted before the plan was
revised.
(00:34:41) Councilwoman Dent discussed how the FA1 (Buildings
and Energy) Group had proposed amendments to this FA in the
EAP and stated that Trina and Tom pointed out that those changes
already existed in the EAP and that was helpful. However, she
thought the Renewable Energy Resolution was somewhat of a
seismic change and that Staff could not make those changes. She
continued that at some point we need to address the Renewable
Energy aspect of the EAP which is not there now, and it would take
a larger City-wide collaboration. She followed that Staff recognized
another piece that is outside of staff’s purview as the gathering of
stakeholders and the alliance with other entities around the state
and the nation. (Note: Staff can provide outreach to stakeholders in
the Community, professionally and as allowed by City policy and
required by their position). Councilwoman Dent stated she has
been participating in the National League of Cities’ Energy and
Environment Advisory Committee where members are advising
national policy from the perspective of local leaders. Those are
things she is doing as a local leader and believes there are things
EPSAC members can do that are outside the scope of what Staff are
doing. The EPSAC members ultimately recognized that EAP Phase I
is done and decided to move on and consider these items as EPSAC
and Staff move on into Phase II & III.
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(00:36:50) Trina and Deirdre mentioned Brad’s question regarding
the regular review of the EAP Phase I. Deirdre stated we touched
on this at the last meeting. Trina stated that Thanh had used the
update of the City’s Comprehensive Plan as an example during that
discussion and believed that that is a guideline. Tom H. stated that
like the Comprehensive Plan, the EAP can be reviewed every 5
years but if revisions need to be made beforehand, we can do that
when they are justified.
(00:38:11) Donna Armstrong commented that she thought there is
an all or nothing kind of thinking about this, and was not sure that
is flexible, which is what the EPSAC members are looking for. She
added she was new to EPSAC and has worked a lot in her
professional career in public health and regional food security; she
stated she was an urban farmer and found the regional food
section (FA3) to be very underdeveloped even though it is well
written; it is not very actionable. She did not think it captured some
of the key points and actions that could reinforce some of the GHG
initiative and effort. Donna inquired whether Trina received her
(public) comment. And Trina stated when she received it, she was
unsure if it was a public comment or a comment intended for staff.
Trina stated that knowing now that it was intended to be shared
with EPSAC, she will forward the information to Committee
members and will put it on the new Teams Platform when that is
set up.
Trina added that she is a Utilities Engineer and thought FA6, Water
Resources, was underdeveloped but after getting more familiar
with the EAP she realized that in the Water Resources FA there
were a lot of sustainable initiatives that were already in place. Trina
stated that she believed the FA3, Regional Food Systems, of the
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EAP may be underdeveloped because we may not have had folks
with much experience to assist with that section. Donna stated she
could see that the EAP was a big effort to get off the ground and
could see that it lifted off in some sections but not quite as well in
others. Deirdre wondered if this could be a test case for
modifications or additions to the action items. Donna replied she
thought that to be true and wanted to know there could be some
“reset-tivity” and appreciated that the GHG inventory is the real
effort. She just wanted to see the ability to grow the Regional Food
Systems FA of the EAP. Donna wanted to see some process in place
for considering suggestions for the EAP and added that she
believed there are things in the Food section that supported other
initiatives. Trina stated that the Focus Area discussions are a good
time to talk about these subject area topics. Thanh suggested that
before we leave the meeting that we talk about the procedures for
Public Comment. Tom H. added that he appreciated Donna’s
comments but wanted to state that there should be a process. He
stated it is important to understand what amendments would do to
the process and that ultimately it would slow the (work) process
down due to staff time dedicated to working on amendments to
the EAP rather than implementation of Phase II & III. The FA
Groups should weigh the benefit of any amendment against
possible delaying of the work prior to recommending a change to
EPSAC. Tom H. also noted that the FA Groups work independently
of each other; if one is delayed other FAs keep moving forward.
(00:46:33) Deirdre followed up with three summary questions: 1)
What is the process for changes in the EAP which may not be full
amendment level changes that are believed to assist in achieving
the EAP Goals? 2) When and how is the entire EAP document
revised? 3) How can the energy and expertise of the EPSAC
Members and the FA Group Members be harnessed and utilized?
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Deirdre wanted to flag these questions and stated there is work
that EPSAC Members could do in between meetings.
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b. Green House Gas (GHG) Inventory Update
Trina explained there were two inventories: the Community and
Municipal level inventories for baseline year 2016 and then 2019. She
explained that Dr. Sean McGinnis is working on the Municipal GHG
Inventory and that it is 90% Complete. She also mentioned that ICLEI -
Local Governments for Sustainability, which the City is a member, is
the organization that guides local and governments in this process. It
is their ClearPath software that is used for the GHG Inventory. Trina
provided a summary of the data that is gathered. She explained that
this software models actions taken and results in reductions. Trina
emphasized that having the GHG Inventory and a model assists with
making decisions as to where to focus efforts for the greatest GHG
reductions.
(00:53:00) Councilwoman Dent asked about the Municipal GHG
Inventory schedule. Trina stated she expects it to be completed in a
month and would like to have it reviewed prior to the next EPSAC
meeting in July. Tom H. explained that it is an expectation that Dr.
McGinnis would review the GHG Inventory and how it was done. Dr.
McGinnis would either be at the next meeting or there would be a
separate meeting depending upon his availability. Deirdre stated it
would be valuable to have Dr. McGinnis to walk through the findings.
Trina stated that there is a process once the Municipal GHG Inventory
is completed. She commented that there are other stakeholders who
should be involved moving forward when setting targets. Trina
emphasized Equity and Sustainability as we moved forward.
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c. Status of Goals, Strategies and Tasks
Trina reviewed the EAP Progress Update with respect to the 215 goals,
strategies, and tasks in the EAP. She acknowledged that she was not
sure if some items were or were not done. She stated that in
reviewing the tasks and goals that the chart represents what she
thought was in progress, completed or not started and that the in
many cases she simply did not know. She also stated that this is where
the Public Works Division Managers who manage much of the work
in the FAs, can provide more accurate input as far as the status of the
goals and tasks. In addition, Trina challenged the members of EPSAC
to really look at each goal and task and decide of the status of each.
Trina mentioned that she had developed an Excel spreadsheet as a
tool to assist with this process to determine what phase each task was
in, whether the task was qualitative or quantitative in nature and what
the status was. She intends on sending the spreadsheet to each
member for them to go through this very exercise.
(0:59:38) Mikalea responded that she agreed and found that a lot of
the language in the Phase I document was a bit ambiguous. She
recalled that it was purposefully ambiguous because maybe the City
wasn’t ready to commit to certain strategies at some point. Tom H.
said that was true as Staff and the EPSAC members didn’t know what
they didn’t know. Mikaela further stated that in looking at Guiding
Goal 3, “Continue to Grow and Deepen Local Partnerships in Order to
Further the Implementation of the Environmental Action Plan”, that all
the tasks are to continue to leverage and or deepen partnerships; not
so sure how one could measure their progress. Trina responded that
some of these tasks also are the responsibility of Council Members
and asked how information gathered to update the status of these
tasks. She also mentioned that there were “Initiatives” in the EAP and
that Public Utilities is an example in FA6, Water Resources, where a lot
of sustainable and resilience work has already been in process and or
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completed and is in the monitoring Phase. Trina summarized that she
really wanted the Staff and EPSAC members to think about the status
of these tasks and the meaning of the tasks prior to making any
amendments. Can more clarity be provided for these items which are
seemingly ambiguous? When outreach efforts begin there are some
real tangible things, we can show visually such as the mapping of the
City’s tree canopy. The GHG Inventory will be huge and that will parlay
into other sub activities and projects. (1:02:48) Thanh stated that she
liked the progress chart as it gives a quick snapshot of what was
completed, what is in progress and what has not started. She went on
to say that she looked at one of the continued statements and that
staff will need to establish the baselines in these cases and the target
to make these types of tasks more objective and measurable. It may
be possible to look at these more ambiguous statements and make
them more quantifiable. Trina agreed and stated that the EAP
document should be lived a little to absorb it.
(1:04:40) Mikaela asked how EPSAC can help City Staff transition a
task from not started to in progress. Trina responded that the plan
assigns almost everything to non-EPSAC members. Trina stated that
this is a conversation to have with the City Division Managers, whom
are Team Leads in the FAs. Thanh agreed that that would be an
appropriate forum to have that discussion; it would help prioritize the
tasks. Trina acknowledged that not everything can be in progress as
there were not enough Staff. The challenge is how can the expertise of
the EPSAC members be utilized. She added that she felt dividing and
conquering into FAs would be a good place to do that. She reiterated
that the Teams Platform should be a way to share information and to
have an open dialog. Deirdre commented that she liked the idea of the
members working in the FA groups with the assigned manager (and
Team Lead) to offer their expertise in smaller pieces. (1:08:05) Donna
pointed out that when she reads through the FA3, Regional Food
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Systems, she struggled with its vagueness and that is what the
concern is. She gave an example of the verbiage “work on this” and
pointed out that that task has no outcome. Thus, perhaps the tasks
need to be “clarified” rather than “amended”. We need specific tasks
where some of these strategies and tasks are not measurable. Trina
responded that it is vague because we lacked the experience in that
area when the EAP was written. There are a lot of people from the
school system on that FA3 Group and it would be nice when there is
further engagement with them in a team meeting. Donna agreed that
she does not know the other members in FA3 except Deirdre, Brian
and Leons but would welcome working with groups that are really
trying to apply regional food systems efforts and thinking. Trina
followed up with the fact we have different managers in this area;
Trina would like the opportunity to engage others in FA3 to see what
their level of experience is and seeing if they are interested in being on
that team.
(1:11:34) Andy stated that there is a divide and conquer strategy
which allocates to the individual FA Groups some decision making
about priorities that he thought was the province of the EPSAC
Members and wondered if he was misunderstanding that. Trina
responded that the EPSAC is advisory and that their leading charge is
making recommendations for targets to Council which is a big charge
and to assist with getting to that point. She further stated that the
managers and their Staff are involved in so many projects that relate
to this plan that they can inform everyone as to work progress and
workload. She did not think staff would receive it well if they were told
by others what their priorities would or should be when their boss has
assigned them work priorities. Andy responded that he had thought it
was the province of the entire EPSAC to at least discuss the priority of
dealing with various components. He further questioned where the
decision-making takes place and how does EPSAC give advice where
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they think the priorities should be. (1:13:43) Deirdre followed that we
could think about it in that the entire group has been subdivided into
smaller units that are still serving that function and perhaps a regular
part of the EPSAC quarterly meeting could include some reporting
back from the FA groups on key points of discussion and
recommendations. Trina agreed and assumed that because EPSAC
members are in these FAs that their advice would come through these
FA Groups. This is not to exclude other members; and everything
cannot be done at once. Andy agreed and asked how do staff and
EPSAC balance priorities across FAs and not just within them. Trina
responded that that may just bear itself out in the FA Group meetings.
The GHG Inventory is a number one priority by its nature.
Councilwoman Dent stated she imagined a matrix or spreadsheet like
the City’s Capital Improvement Plan and that there could be a numeric
priority and one could see all the tasks and priorities with justification
such as “it is mandated” or “is a safety measure”. Trina followed with
the fact that the Teams Platform has a ranking tool for priority for
each task that can be utilized as well; that can be part of the ongoing
conversation.
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d. Follow-up Discussion of Resolution for Renewable Energy
Tom H. reviewed that after the EPSAC January meeting that he, Thanh
and Trina sat down with the City Attorney regarding what the
Resolution means, what the intended use would be, how it relates to
Virginia’s Clean Economy Act, and what those relationships are.
Subsequently, the City Manager and City Attorney needed more
clarification from Council to help give staff the direction they needed
to share with EPSAC how the resolution was going to move forward in
relationship to the EAP and EPSAC. At last night’s Council meeting the
City Attorney shared that Staff needed more information on the
Resolution framework. Council agreed they needed to bring this up
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again and the plan forward is for Staff to work with the City Attorney
to formulate talking points for the City Attorney to bring back to
Council in May for a more engaged discussion regarding the intent of
the resolution. Tom H. stated a summary of that discussion and next
steps would be provided to EPSAC members prior to the next EPSAC
meeting. Councilwoman Dent stated she had asked Council to
postpone this agenda item until June due to budget discussions;
probably the first meeting in June. (Note: As of this writing this item
will not be on the first meeting in June but may be put on the Council
Meeting agenda for subsequent meetings in June or July.). Tom H.
summarized that he understood the time the budget process takes in
May and at this time staff cannot provide much discussion because
more guidance and direction from the City Manager is required.
(1:22:37) Doug responded he was glad that staff recognized the
discussion and appreciated the awkwardness of the sudden
appearance of the Resolution for City Staff and that it is important to
not have awkwardness. Doug stated that it seems the potential for
elevating the conversation by EPSAC members to create opportunities
to sit at the table and have conversations among different
stakeholders in our friendly City is a great opportunity not to waste.
He followed that part of what EPSAC is to do relates to the EAP and
some (charge) goes beyond the EAP. The issues expressed in the
resolution are de facto issues of concern. No matter what conclusion
these are automatically somewhere in EPSAC’s wheelhouse. The real
potential for EPSAC is to provide a platform that allows it to sit at the
table and have frank discussions and that opportunity should be taken
seriously. (1:26:09) Councilwoman Dent stated she had a zoom
interview with WHSVA and that they wanted to know if there would
be opportunity for public input and she stated yes and recited part
(#3) of the Resolution, “Proclaim its commitment to equity,
affordability and access for all people through public participation of
diverse stakeholders as the City pursues a just transition...”. She
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followed with that is right there in the Resolution and as Doug says it
also is there in the EPSAC Bylaws, “the issues of interest of the
community”. She summarized by stating the stakeholder review
process should very well be under the EPSAC purview even aside from
the EAP, which is more of the purview of the City Staff. Doug agreed
and stated that Tom, Thanh and Trina acknowledged that they
couldn’t participate in some changes absent changes in the City Code
nor items with implied changes to HEC. (Note: Staff have stated that
they do not have the authority to expend dollars for capital projects or
amend City policies and procedures etc. without approval from the
City Manager and as appropriated by City Council.) Additionally, Doug
stated City Council will or will not do things to change that. Doug
inquired in taking the Resolution as part of what EPSAC is responding
to is there some way to be able to use the Teams Platform when rolled
out to have a channel where some of these things can be furthered
discussed even if they cannot fit into the EAP. Tom H. followed that is
what we are doing is trying to find out the intent of the Resolution in
the context of the EAP. Councilwoman Dent acknowledged there
needed to be more input from Council but discussions on this matter
do not need to be delayed. Doug followed that Richard Baugh thought
that these issues could end up in the EAP and indicated that sooner or
later they were going to end up in the EAP.
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4. Next Steps
2021 Meeting Dates
July 28, 2021
October 27, 2021
5. Adjournment
The next regular meeting will be on Wednesday, July 28, 2021
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Agenda
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City of Harrisonburg 409 South Main Street
Harrisonburg, VA 22801
Meeting Agenda
Environmental Performance Standards Committee
Wednesday, April 28, 2021 5:00 PM Virtual
1. Call To Order
2. Review and Approval of Meeting Summary
3. New Business
a. Presentation on Moving Forward from Phase 1 to Phase 2 & 3
b. Green House Gas (GHG) Inventory Update
c. Status of Goals, Strategies and Tasks
d. Follow-up Discussion of Resolution for Renewable Energy
Attachments: Resolution for Renewable Energy
4. Next Steps
5. Adjournment
Notice to Public
In accordance with the Emergency Ordinance to effectuate temporary changes in
certain deadlines and to modify public meeting and public hearing practices and
procedures to address continuity of operations associated with pandemic disaster,
readopted on February 23, 2021, the public will not be able to physically attend the
Environmental Performance Standards Advisory Committee meeting.
Residents/Media will be able to watch the meeting live on:
• The City’s website, https://www.harrisonburgva.gov/agendas
• Public Education Government Channel 3
Comments must be received by 12noon on the day of the meeting and will be shared
with EPSAC members. Please email comments to:
Trina.Mastran@HarrisonburgVA.gov
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