Public Safety Committee

CITY OF HENDERSONVILLE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE November 14th, 2023, at 5:15 p.m. 101 Maple Drive North, Hendersonville, TN 37075 CITY OF HENDERSONVILLE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE November 14th, 2023, at 5:15 p.m. 101 Maple Drive North, Hendersonville, TN 37075 I. Call to Order by the Chairman II. Acceptance of agenda III. Minutes A. Approval of October 10th, 2023, meeting minutes 2 IV. Citizens’ Comments V. Ordinances and Resolutions Clary VI. 1. Reading of Ordinance 2023-24, an ordinance amending 3-6 Hendersonville Municipal Code Title 7, Chapter 4, Section 402 regarding fireworks VII. Other Agenda Items 2. Review of Interlocal Agreements with Volunteer Fire Departments 7-17 3. Discussion-Police Chief Recruitment VIII. Adjournment Anyone needing accommodations due to disabilities, please contact the ADA Coordinator at 615-822-1016 at least 24 hours prior to the meeting. 1  Public Safety Commitee Mee�ng Minutes October 10, 2023 Commitee Chairman Terri Goodwin called the mee�ng to order of the Public Safety Commitee at 5:15 p.m. Present: Jamie Clary (Mayor), Jesse Eckenroth (COO), Scoty Bush (HFD), George Edwards (HFD), Jim Jones (HPD), Mickey Miller (HPD), Terri Goodwin (Alderman Ward 4 – Chairman), Janna Garton (Alderman Ward Five – Vice Chairman), Rachel Collins (Alderman Ward Five), Mike Cook (IT), Karen Dixon (Alderman Ward 4), Casey LaMarr (Public Informa�on), Lance Wray (City Atorney) Garton mo�oned to accept the agenda for the October 10th, 2023, mee�ng; with the removal of item #3 moving, it to mid-year budget; Collins seconded. Collins mo�oned to approve the minutes of the August 8th, 2023, mee�ng; Garton seconded. Ordinance 2023-24, an ordinance amending Hendersonville Municipal Code Title 76, Chapter 4, Sec�on 402 regarding fireworks. Proposed to change ordinance to ci�zens shoo�ng off fireworks without a permit from July 4th from 10:00 a.m to 11 p.m. and December 31st from 10 a.m. to 1 a.m. on January 1st. Garton mo�oned to move to BOMA with a posi�ve recommenda�on; Goodwin seconded. Passes unanimous. Resolu�on 2023-43, a resolu�on authorizing the mayor to enter into a Mutual Aid Assistance Agreement with Shackle Island Volunteer Fire Department and Number One Volunteer Fire Department for city fire department services. Discussion proposing to have agreement drawn up lis�ng 6 call types: MVA’s, Hazmat, Fires, Drowning other than swimming pools, Swi�water and Ac�ve Shooter. Also being discussed is HFD to be the primary on the scene. Collins mo�oned to proceed with agreement with posi�ve recommenda�on to BOMA; Goodwin seconded. Passes unanimous. Update on traffic at Burris Elementary, large por�on of property not being used that has caused the backup of traffic. The proposed plan on traffic has already been implemented. No complaints have come to HPD. Sta�on 7 proposed to be open in November. Collins moved to adjourn; Garton seconded. Mee�ng adjourned at 6:15 p.m. 2  ORDINANCE 2023-24 Sponsor: Clary AN ORDINANCE AMENDING HENDERSONVILLE MUNICIPAL CODE TITLE 7, CHAPTER 4, SECTION 402 REGARDING FIREWORKS WHEREAS, it is currently permissible for any person, or persons, to shoot, fire or explode fireworks within the City limits without obtaining a permit only during the following times: July 1-3 from 10:00 a.m. until 10:00 p.m., July 4 from 10:00 a.m. until 11:00 p.m., and December 31 from 10:00 a.m. until January 1, 1:00 a.m.; WHEREAS, the City desires to modify the dates and times fireworks are permissible within the City limits without a obtaining a permit; NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT ORDAINED BY THE BOARD OF MAYOR AND ALDERMEN OF THE CITY OF HENDERSONVILLE, TENNESSEE that the Hendersonville Municipal Code, Title 7, Fire Protection and Fireworks, Chapter 4, Fireworks, Section 7-402, Permit Required, is hereby amended by deleting from subsection 2 of Section 7-402 the language “July 1-3 from 10:00 a.m. until 10:00 p.m., July 4 from 10:00 a.m. until 11:00 p.m.,” and adding, “July 3 & 4 from 5:00 p.m. until 11:00 p.m.” shown further as follows: 7-402. Permit Required. 2. Fireworks are permissible without a permit only during the following times: July 1-3 from 10:00 a.m. until 10:00 p.m., July 4 from 10:00 a.m. until 11:00 p.m., July 3 & 4 from 5:00 p.m. until 11:00 p.m. and December 31 from 10:00 a.m. until January 1, 1:00 a.m. This ordinance shall take effect at the earliest date allowed by law. First Reading: ___________________________ Second Reading: ___________________________ APPROVED: __________________________ ATTEST: JAMIE CLARY, Mayor _________________________________________ TAMARA INGERSOLL, City Recorder APPROVED AS TO FORM AND LEGALITY: _____________________________________ LANCE A. WRAY, Interim City Attorney 3  LEGISLATIVE HISTORY Ordinance 2023-24 Sponsor: Clary Committee: Public Safety Date of Committee Meeting: October 10th, 2023 Committee Recommendation: Passed with a positive recommendation. First BOMA Reading: October 24, 2023 Amendment: “Fireworks may be allowed from July 4th to July 10th and December 31st to January 6th with a curfew of 10:00 pm.” Vote: Aye: Burgdorf, Martin, Sasse, Skidmore, and Waters. Nay: Collins, Dixon, Garton, Garza, Goodwin, Roberson, and Clary. Motion failed. Amendment: “Fireworks may be allowed from July 3rd from 5 p.m. to 11 p.m. and July 4th from 5 p.m. to 11 p.m. The New Years hours will remain December 31 from 10:00 a.m. until January 1, 1:00 a.m.” Vote: Aye: Collins, Dixon, Garton, Garza, Goodwin, Roberson, and Clary. Nay: Burgdorf, Martin, Sasse, Skidmore, and Waters. Motion carried. Withdrawn by sponsor to be returned to the Public Safety Committee. Date of Committee Meeting: November 14, 2023 Committee Recommendation: First BOMA Reading: 4 DATE: November 14, 2023 ORDINANCE/RESOLUTION # Ordinance 2023-24 SPECIFIC REQUEST/ BOMA is being asked to further restrict and simplify when RECOMMENDATION: residents can shoot fireworks. STAFF REPORT REPORT PREPARED BY: Jamie Clary, Mayor BACKGROUND: 1 Prior to 2019 shooting fireworks within the city limits required a permit. Typically, the City issued one permit each year, that being to the business providing the fireworks show at Freedom Festival. The many other fireworks shows in the city, coming from backyards and cul-de-sacs, were technically illegal. So many residents violated our law and police could not fully enforce it on Independence Day, New Year’s Eve, and days surrounding those holidays. Residents often shot fireworks into the early morning hours and for days after the holidays. In 2019 BOMA relaxed the law, allowing residents without permits to shoot fireworks within two particular windows. The reasons BOMA made the change were (a) the law was not being followed and (b) by giving residents legal opportunities, they would stop shooting fireworks for so many days following the holidays. BOMA’s changes in 2019 allowed fireworks without a permit: • July 1-3 from 10:00 a.m. until 10:00 p.m. • July 4 from 10:00 a.m. until 11:00 p.m. • December 31 from 10:00 a.m. until January 1, 1:00 a.m. Notably these windows are not easy to remember. They involve six days each year and three different times during those six days. The ordinance, as originally submitted to BOMA, proposed new hours: • July 4 from 10:00 a.m. until 11:00 p.m. • December 31 from 10:00 a.m. until January 1, 1:00 a.m. However, the ordinance was amended at the October BOMA meeting to: • July 3 & 4 from 5 p.m. until 11:00 p.m. • December 31 from 10:00 a.m. until January 1, 1:00 a.m., and was withdrawn. The ordinance is being resubmitted, as amended, to Public Safety Committee for further consideration. DISCUSSION: 2 The justification in 2019 for allowing backyard fireworks displays was that by allowing them on certain dates, we would discourage residents from shooting off fireworks during all other dates. That has not happened. We continue to receive complaints from neighbors after the two windows have elapsed. Here 5  2 are two examples of the impact of the current ordinance. Both emails came to the City during the past year. “My name is Rhonda Laight. I live and have lived at 107 Roberta Drive here in Hendersonville for over 20 years. I love our city. My husband and I have raised a child in our school system and I have worked for businesses in our community for 17 years. It's been a wonderful place to call our home. My ongoing concern, year after year, is the non-compliance of the firework ordinance outside of the permitted and legal times. We also love to celebrate all our festive holidays and don't have a problem with others doing the same. We make provisions for our dogs days before the firework holidays by making sure they're safe, playing music to subdue the noise and administering veterinary medications to ease their anxiety from the noise. However, this year our dogs were extremely traumatized, even under veterinary medication for fireworks, from day after day of these going off. This year was so bad that I had to take one of dogs to the Vet for severe gastrointestinal issues during the fireworks week and subsequently a $167.48 vet bill followed.” “I have a dog who is terrified, and in turn, I am tied to the house this week in the evenings because if I leave her alone, she will hurt herself out of fear of the fireworks. So please either find a way for the Police to enforce the current ordinance or make it limited to only July 4th from 10 am to 10 pm. --Aimee Lecerf” If we adopt the changes in this proposed ordinance, people will still shoot off fireworks at the wrong times. We will still have complaints from neighbors. Dogs will still suffer. Neighbors will be woken up. However, those incidents will happen less. Without a way to test this expectation, I can only point to people who drive over the speed limit. Those drivers are less likely to drive 20 MPH over the speed limit than they are likely to drive 5 MPH over the speed limit. By publicizing these changes, we can expect people to shoot fireworks one or two days past the legal windows, but they are less likely to shoot them three, four, and five days after the holidays. FISCAL IMPACT: 3 None ADDITIONAL INFORMATION / PHOTOS: 4 This proposed ordinance does not impact sales of fireworks. Also, fireworks displays—professional and non-professional—are not allowed during a burn ban and will continue to be. This proposed ordinance does not impact that. 6 DATE: November 14, 2023 ORDINANCE/RESOLUTION # Resolution 2023-43 Consideration of interlocal agreements specifying public SPECIFIC REQUEST/ safety response occurring within unincorporated Sumner RECOMMENDATION: County. STAFF Lance Wray, Interim City Attorney REPORT PREPARED BY: Jesse Eckenroth, Chief of Operations REPORT BACKGROUND: 1 Historically the City of Hendersonville has provided public safety support in unincorporated Sumner County, outside of city limits. The level of support provided by the city is not memorialized in an agreement between the City and the County and/or the volunteer fire department(s). Fire responds to calls on a “mutual aid” basis, which means the city only responds to calls outside the city when requested; 911 operators do not automatically dispatch the city’s public safety resources to areas outside the city. Resolution 2023-42 was presented to BOMA October 24, 2023. Amendments were made to the proposed agreements including a name change to interlocal agreement, designation of the specific call types that would illicit a city response, removal of compensation language and inclusion of a November 30th expiration of the terms if agreements cannot be executed by said date. A meeting was held November 7th at City Hall with the Volunteer Fire Departments, Mayor Clary and city staff to discuss the agreements. The attached agreements are updated in response to feedback from BOMA, city staff and the Volunteer Departments. DISCUSSION: 2 The city utilizes Public Entity Partners (PEP) for general liability insurance. PEP has recently announced that it will not insure liability/property claims initiated outside the city limits, absent an interlocal agreement. The proposed interlocal agreement is, primarily, in response to the city seeking liability/property coverage while working outside the city proper. Volunteer fire departments are non-profits, independent of county jurisdiction. Sumner County does not provide fire services but does provide EMS or “ambulance” services. An interlocal agreement for fire services will be between the City of Hendersonville and the volunteer fire departments. FISCAL IMPACT: 3 The financial impact will be determined by the total need for assistance within the unincorporated section of the county. ATTACHMENTS: 4 1. Interlocal Agreement – Number One Volunteer 2. Interlocal Agreement – Shackle Island Volunteer FD 3. Copy of Resolution 2023-43, as presented to BOMA 7  INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT For Mutual and Automatic Aid FOR FIRE DEPARTMENT SERVICES (Pursuant To T.C.A. Section 6-54-601) THIS AGREEMENT entered as of the ______ day of ____________, 2023, by and among THE CITY OF HENDERSONVILLE, TENNESSEE, a Tennessee municipal corporation, (hereinafter referred to as the “City”), and NUMBER ONE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT, INC., a Tennessee nonprofit corporation having a principal address of 1314 Douglas Bend Road, Gallatin, Tennessee 37066. In consideration of the mutual covenants contained herein, and in accordance with Tennessee Code Annotated, § 6-54-601, the parties agree as follows: 1. The parties will respond to calls for fire department services only upon request for such assistance made by the senior fire officer on duty of the fire department of the respective party, or as otherwise designated by the requesting party. All requests for fire department services should be made to the senior fire officer of the responding party, or as otherwise designated by the responding party. Each party may designate the appropriate officer. Two types of assistance are intended by this Agreement provided as follows: (a) Mutual Aid Assistance, see Exhibit A (b) Automatic Aid Assistance, see Exhibit A 2. Upon request for aid received as provided for in paragraph (1), the senior fire officer (or designee) of the responding party will authorize a response as follows: (a) Each of the parties to this Agreement will attempt to provide a sufficient response as determined by the severity of the emergency in the requesting party’s jurisdiction, with consideration also to the requirements of, and that which is sufficient for, the responding party’s jurisdiction. (b) If there is also an emergency in the jurisdiction of the responding party at the time a request is made, or one occurs in the course of responding to a request under this Agreement, and the senior fire officer of the responding party reasonably determines, after a consideration of the severity of the emergency in his jurisdiction, that the responding party cannot comply with the minimal requirements under this Agreement without endangering life or incurring significant property damages in his jurisdiction, or both, he may choose to use all equipment and personnel in his own jurisdiction. In this case, the senior fire officer of the responding party shall attempt to inform the senior fire officer of the requesting party of his or her decision. (c) In cases where two or more requests for mutual aid assistance are made at the same time, thereby making compliance with the minimum requirements of this agreement impossible for the responding party, the senior fire officer (or designee) of the responding party shall determine, based upon a reasonable appraisal of the emergencies of the requesting jurisdiction, how best to respond to the requests. The senior fire officer (or designee) may determine to send all 8 available resources under this agreement to the jurisdiction with the most dire emergency, or may send some resources to each requesting jurisdiction. The senior fire officer (or designee) shall inform the requesting parties of his or her decision. (d) In both situations outlined above where compliance with the minimal duties of this agreement is impossible, the requesting party or parties will not expect full compliance with those minimal duties but will expect a fair appraisal of the emergencies involved and a commensurate response. (e) The parties hereby acknowledge and agree that this Agreement does not create a duty on either party to respond to any requests for aid, and that the responding party retains the discretion over whether and to what extent to give the aid requested. 3. When fire personnel are sent to another community pursuant to this Agreement, the jurisdiction, authority, rights, privileges, and immunities, including coverage under the Workers’ Compensation Laws, which exist in the responding Fire Department shall be extended to and include any geographic area necessary as a result of the request when these personnel are acting within the scope of the authority conferred by this Agreement. 4. The party who requests mutual aid shall in no way be deemed liable or responsible for the personal property of the members of the Fire Department of the responding party that may be lost, stolen, or damaged while performing their duties in responding under the terms of this agreement. 5. The party responding to the request for mutual aid under the terms of this Agreement assumes all liabilities and responsibility as between the parties for damage to its own apparatus and/or equipment. The party responding also assumes all liability and responsibility between the parties for any damage caused by its own apparatus and/or negligence of its personnel while in route to or returning from a specific location. 6. The party responding under the terms of this Agreement assumes no responsibility for liability for property damages or destroyed or bodily injury at the actual scene of any emergency due to actions that are taken in responding under this agreement. This liability and responsibility as between the parties shall rest solely with the party requesting aid and within whose jurisdiction the property exists or the incident occurs. 7. Notwithstanding any other provision of this Agreement to the contrary, the respective parties agree that no claim for compensation will be made by either against the other for loss, damage, or personal injury occurring in consequence of mutual aid assistance rendered under this agreement, and all such rights or claims are hereby expressly waived. 8. Upon the arrival of HFDs first arriving officer they automatically become attached to the Incident Commander and assist with making tactical and lifesaving and property loss decisions.” If the first arriving volunteer firefighter has no formal training as an Officer, then they would pass command to the first arriving HFD or Volunteer staff who does. 2 9  9. This Agreement is for one (1) year, beginning on the effective date of this Agreement, unless or until written notice of termination is given by either party hereto at least sixty (60) days prior thereto. No further obligation or liabilities shall be imposed upon the withdrawing party after termination. 10. This Agreement shall be valid only if it is executed by November 30,2023 and only when it is executed by those authorized and required to execute this Agreement. IN WITNESS WHEREOF, we, the contracting parties, by our duly authorized agents, hereto affix our signatures and seals: City Of Hendersonville Number One Volunteer Fire Department, Inc. By: ___________________________ By:__________________________ Name: _________________________ Name: _______________________ Title: _________________________ Title: _______________________ Date: _________________________ Date: _______________________ 3 10  EXHIBIT A (a) Mutual Aid: The situa�ons that HFD could aid: • Confirmed structure fire • Entrapment in vehicle • Drowning • Swi�-water rescue • Hazardous materials (b) Automatic Aid: The situa�ons that HFD will aid: • Ac�ve shooter situa�ons, and • Non-medical calls for: o Rehoboth Methodist Church o Rome Bap�st 4 11  INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT For Mutual and Automatic Aid FOR FIRE DEPARTMENT SERVICES (Pursuant To T.C.A. Section 6-54-601) THIS AGREEMENT entered as of the ______ day of ____________, 2023, by and among THE CITY OF HENDERSONVILLE, TENNESSEE, a Tennessee municipal corporation, (hereinafter referred to as the “City”), and SHACKLE ISLAND VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT, INC., a Tennessee nonprofit corporation. In consideration of the mutual covenants contained herein, and in accordance with Tennessee Code Annotated, § 6-54-601, the parties agree as follows: 1. The parties will respond to calls for fire department services only upon request for such assistance made by the senior fire officer on duty of the fire department of the respective party, or as otherwise designated by the requesting party. All requests for fire department services should be made to the senior fire officer of the responding party, or as otherwise designated by the responding party. Each party may designate the appropriate officer. Two types of assistance are intended by this Agreement provided as follows: (a) Mutual Aid Assistance, see Exhibit A (b) Automatic Aid Assistance, see Exhibit A 2. Upon request for aid received as provided for in paragraph (1), the senior fire officer (or designee) of the responding party will authorize a response as follows: (a) Each of the parties to this Agreement will attempt to provide a sufficient response as determined by the severity of the emergency in the requesting party’s jurisdiction, with consideration also to the requirements of, and that which is sufficient for, the responding party’s jurisdiction. (b) If there is also an emergency in the jurisdiction of the responding party at the time a request is made, or one occurs in the course of responding to a request under this Agreement, and the senior fire officer of the responding party reasonably determines, after a consideration of the severity of the emergency in his jurisdiction, that the responding party cannot comply with the minimal requirements under this Agreement without endangering life or incurring significant property damages in his jurisdiction, or both, he may choose to use all equipment and personnel in his own jurisdiction. In this case, the senior fire officer of the responding party shall attempt to inform the senior fire officer of the requesting party of his or her decision. (c) In cases where two or more requests for mutual aid assistance are made at the same time, thereby making compliance with the minimum requirements of this agreement impossible for the responding party, the senior fire officer (or designee) of the responding party shall determine, based upon a reasonable appraisal of the emergencies of the requesting jurisdiction, how best to respond to the requests. The senior fire officer (or designee) may determine to send all available resources under this agreement to the jurisdiction with the most dire emergency, or may 12 send some resources to each requesting jurisdiction. The senior fire officer (or designee) shall inform the requesting parties of his or her decision. (d) In both situations outlined above where compliance with the minimal duties of this agreement is impossible, the requesting party or parties will not expect full compliance with those minimal duties but will expect a fair appraisal of the emergencies involved and a commensurate response. (e) The parties hereby acknowledge and agree that this Agreement does not create a duty on either party to respond to any requests for aid, and that the responding party retains the discretion over whether and to what extent to give the aid requested. 3. When fire personnel are sent to another community pursuant to this Agreement, the jurisdiction, authority, rights, privileges, and immunities, including coverage under the Workers’ Compensation Laws, which exist in the responding Fire Department shall be extended to and include any geographic area necessary as a result of the request when these personnel are acting within the scope of the authority conferred by this Agreement. 4. The party who requests mutual aid shall in no way be deemed liable or responsible for the personal property of the members of the Fire Department of the responding party that may be lost, stolen, or damaged while performing their duties in responding under the terms of this agreement. 5. The party responding to the request for mutual aid under the terms of this Agreement assumes all liabilities and responsibility as between the parties for damage to its own apparatus and/or equipment. The party responding also assumes all liability and responsibility between the parties for any damage caused by its own apparatus and/or negligence of its personnel while in route to or returning from a specific location. 6. The party responding under the terms of this Agreement assumes no responsibility for liability for property damages or destroyed or bodily injury at the actual scene of any emergency due to actions that are taken in responding under this agreement. This liability and responsibility as between the parties shall rest solely with the party requesting aid and within whose jurisdiction the property exists or the incident occurs. 7. Notwithstanding any other provision of this Agreement to the contrary, the respective parties agree that no claim for compensation will be made by either against the other for loss, damage, or personal injury occurring in consequence of mutual aid assistance rendered under this agreement, and all such rights or claims are hereby expressly waived. 8. Upon the arrival of HFDs first arriving officer they automatically become attached to the Incident Commander and assist with making tactical and lifesaving and property loss decisions.” If the first arriving volunteer firefighter has no formal training as an Officer, then they would pass command to the first arriving HFD or Volunteer staff who does. 2 13  9. This Agreement is for one (1) year, beginning on the effective date of this Agreement, unless or until written notice of termination is given by either party hereto at least sixty (60) days prior thereto. No further obligation or liabilities shall be imposed upon the withdrawing party after termination. 10. This Agreement shall be valid only if it is executed by November 30,2023 and only when it is executed by those authorized and required to execute this Agreement. IN WITNESS WHEREOF, we, the contracting parties, by our duly authorized agents, hereto affix our signatures and seals: City Of Hendersonville Shackle Island Volunteer Fire Department, Inc. By: ___________________________ By:__________________________ Name: _________________________ Name: _______________________ Title: _________________________ Title: _______________________ Date: _________________________ Date: _______________________ 3 14  EXHIBIT A (a) Mutual Aid: The situa�ons that HFD could aid: • Confirmed structure fire • Entrapment in vehicle • Drowning • Swi�-water rescue • Hazardous materials (b) Automatic Aid: The situa�ons that HFD will aid: • Ac�ve shooter situa�ons, and • Non-medical calls for: o Beech and T.W. Hunter schools o Saint John Bap�st, Long Hollow Church, Beech Presbyterian and Shackle Island Church of Christ 4 15  RESOLUTION 2023-43 Sponsor: Clary A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO A MUTUAL AID ASSISTANCE AGREEMENT WITH SHACKLE ISLAND VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT AND NUMBER ONE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT SERVICES NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE BOARD OF MAYOR AND ALDERMEN OF THE CITY OF HENDERSONVILLE, TENNESSEE, that the City hereby authorizes the Mayor to enter into the attached Mutual Aid Assistance Agreements with Shackle Island Volunteer Fire Department, Inc. and Number One Volunteer Fire Department for fire department services provided by the Hendersonville Fire Department. Adopted this the ____ day of ________________, 2023. APPROVED: __________________________ JAMIE CLARY, Mayor ATTEST: _________________________________________ TAMARA INGERSOLL, City Recorder APPROVED AS TO FORM AND LEGALITY: _____________________________________ LANCE A. WRAY, Interim City Attorney 16  LEGISLATIVE HISTORY Resolution 2023-43 Sponsor: Clary Committee: Public Safety Date of Committee Meeting: October 10th, 2023 Committee Recommendation: Passed with a positive recommendation. First BOMA Reading: October 24th, 2023 17