Tourism Board Regular Meeting
Regular MeetingHillsborough, NC · May 6, 2024
Minutes
Draft Minutes
TOURISM BOARD
Regular meeting
5:30 p.m. May 6, 2024
Board Meeting Room of Town Hall Annex, 105 E. Corbin St.
Present: Meaghun Darab, Chair Victoria Pace, Rainbow
Cabbage, Barry Hupp, Megan Kimball, Smita Patel
and Scott Czechlewski, Eryk Pruitt
Absent: Barney Caton
Staff: Planning and Economic Development Manager Shannan Campbell, Planning Technician Kelsey
Carson
1. Call to order
Vice Chair Victoria Pace called the meeting to order at 5:33p.m.
2. Minutes review and approval
Minutes from regular meeting on March 4, 2024
Motion: Board member Meaghun Darab moved to approve the minutes as submitted. Board member
Eryk Pruitt seconded.
Vote: 8-0.
Minutes from regular meeting on April 10, 2024
Member Rainbow Cabbage indicated that the minutes did not capture her full experience at the Visitors
Center and she wanted to further address what was stated in last month’s minutes regarding her
unsatisfactory experience during her visit to the Hillsborough Visitors Center. She wanted to emphasize the
importance of training for Visitors Center volunteers, and that accurate information is being presented to
guests. She explained further that the kiosk video is still showing advertising for Mystery Brewery which has
been closed and that the ADA access door needs to be unlocked during business hours for those with mobility
issues.
Pace and board member Megan Kimball stated the importance of the Visitors Center having volunteers to
help in this typer of greeter position. Kimball stated that the Visitors Center is always staffed with at least one
full time staff member that can also help answer questions. Pace pointed out her own experience
volunteering with the Alliance for Historic Hillsborough that its training tends to focus on the ‘history’ aspect
of Hillsborough and not as much the hospitality side of things. Campbell restated what edits to the minutes
Cabbage would like to see addressed and asked if it would be more appropriate to capture this during the
April 10th minutes or the minutes from tonight’s meeting. Cabbage stated that she was satisfied with what
was discussed today being in this meetings’ minutes and that it is true that these volunteer positions are
important and that we are all grateful for them but that they need the tools necessary to support these
volunteers. More knowledge about downtown and the West Hillsborough businesses would be preferred.
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Cabbage stated that she would like to add that she was directed to Antonia’s for pizza, which they do not
have, and was told that Radius pizza had closed.
Scott Czechlewski would like to amend the minutes from last month clarifying that the Chamber of Commerce
“would take the Tourisms Board’s recommendation and will be holding the parade and tree lighting ceremony
on two separate days” He explained that the Chamber accepted this recommendation from the Tourism
Board. Giving credit for the idea to the Tourism Board and that the Chamber had not brought this idea
forward.
Darab and Kimball asked for name spelling corrections in last month’s minutes.
Motion: Board member Darab moved to approve the minutes as amended. Pruitt seconded.
Vote: 8-0.
3. Agenda changes and approval
Campbell had none but introduced the board to Kelsey Carson, Planning Technician, who would be taking their
minutes.
4. Discussion Items
A. Grant Scoring and Project Awards for FY25
Campbell explained that members were able to score the grants online using ‘Submittable’, a grant platform. The
top three for highest scores were displayed on the screen but the board could vote to fund more or less than the
top 3. Caton, who was absent for tonight’s meeting, has provided his feedback on each for Campbell to share with
the group. The group discussed that they would like to hear some rational on why members scored high or low.
Pace had made the suggestion to go through and comment on each. Starting with those below the top three
starting with the Gravestone Studies submission. Kimball explained that since it was a conference and included
overnights that it might be better for the other tourism board. Campbell said she could refer it to the Tourism
Development Authority (TDA) Board, which uses the revenues from the Occupancy tax. Members confirmed that
funding may be better through the TDA. Campbell clarified the difference in revenue sources between both
boards. Discussion from the group on whether to fund the Gravestone Conference or not ultimately decided that
they would not be funding it for this year but request that Campbell ask them to apply through the TDA for
support for this project.
The group then moved on to discussing funding of the Outlandish Hillsborough Scottish Festival. Cabbage asked
the group how much the Outlandish festival is projected to cost. Kimball explained it looks like it will cost around
$35,000 from the application. The group discussed which grants the festival has and is planning to apply for to
confirm that overfunding of this event will not take place. Campbell said that most of time events apply for many
different types of grants and funding hoping that a few will stick. Kimball confirmed that the event has not
received funding from anywhere yet. Cabbage restated that she is just wanting to make sure that the funds
provided would not be going to an event that is already received funding from somewhere else. Campbell
indicated that if awarded and additional funding is secured that the Outlandish festival can always turn down the
amount funded by the Tourism Board. There was consensus among the board members that an event like this will
bring visitors from many different areas, across states, that these events are hosted by parties who are capable of
facilitating events of these nature, and the full initial investment in the event should be funded at $10,000.
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Pace selected the Hillsborough Garden Club Garden Tours entry as the next in discussion. The group discussed
some confusion regarding the what the Garden Club has stated for the ability to match and the selling of tickets as
this being their main fundraising event. There were some concerns about the event becoming sustainable.
Cabbage states that the Garden Club is working to have this event as reoccurring. The board unanimously
supported approving the grant funds requested by the Garden Club for the Garden Tours.
Pace selected First Fridays at the Eno Arts Mill as the next entry for discussion. Darab states that she wishes to see
more diverse music genres presented at these types of events and the Mill already does that. There is discussion
from the group that these organizers select music they expect to draw crowds and that these music artists have
been selected in an effort to support many different genre types. Darab clarifies that it should not be a condition
of whether they receive the funding or not just feedback for the organizers of events that a variety of music is
preferred. The board discussed the Arts Councils’ ‘Last Friday’ vs. The Arts Commission’s ‘First Friday’ timing and if
that is continuing to work in the best interest of both groups. Campbell states that the Visitors Center promotes
both events equally. She stated that there have been multiple discussion between Hillsborough Arts Council and
Orange County Arts Commission on this. She said having the events scheduled the way they are with First Fridays
being in West Hillsborough and Last Fridays being downtown means there is more to do in more areas of town.
The board voted to fund this event unanimously as well.
Pace selected the Eagle Lodge Foundation entry for the next discussion item. The board stated that they would be
more likely to support funds for overall beautification of the building and area, it is just difficult to determine
exactly what these funds would be used for if granted based on the application. They discussed some confusion in
the budget over the funding/holding of a golf tournament that isn’t explained in the narrative. The budget request
did not show a clear ask for building/grounds beautification. Cabbage stated that it was her assumption that the
funds requested were to be used toward the beautification efforts, but this was not understood by other
members. Cabbage asked if resubmittal was possible, Campbell confirmed that they would be allowed to reapply
next year. The board did not support funding this application.
There was discussion about funding the full amount for each entry and how that would affect the overall budget
numbers. The board asked about partial funding of the requests. Campbell stated that staff would recommend
against partial funding as often these entries request the full amount of what is needed to support the event or
program and if it only gets partially funded it may not be able to happen and then they would have to require that
the money be refunded to the board. She said the exception would be the Snow Approach application, which
gave a funding range. She indicated that she had not encountered that before.
Pace moved to the Snow Approach retreats application. She confirmed that although the idea and organization
are run by great people, it does not check off what is needed to be considered ‘tourism’ necessarily. The board
discussed that funding elsewhere may be possible for a type of retreat like this, why grant applications from this
applicant in the past has not been awarded, and what types of missing information would be required in order to
get funding support from the Tourism Board. Ideas included a more detailed schedule of the retreat events and if
a shuttle could be used to ensure visiting of local businesses.
Member Smita Patel explained that the application is failing to provide clear detail on how the local businesses
would benefit, that this might be something that could be recommended to the TDA with Colonial Inn providing
food and beverage. The board discussed possible partial funding of this in order to help get them started since
they asked for a range, ideas of $500, and $1,000 were discussed. There is a reminder that organizations can only
receive funding a limited number of times. The board gathered consensus on a $2,500 award.
Pace selected the Garden Club’s Childrens Play entry as the next to discuss. The group is in favor of this type of
event, commenting that it seems enjoyable and would bring in a different group of individuals for attendance.
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There is discussion on the location of this event and whether it could be at Eno house, but the Farmer’s Market
Pavilion was discussed to be the better location. Campbell provides Catons concerns for this being a one-time
event, but Cabbage states that organizers have discussed more events of this nature in the future. Member Barry
Hupp is concerned about the funding of this event based on return on investment.
Pace moves to the Flush Fest entry for discussion. Being one of the larger events the group discusses attendance
being in the thousands expected in 2025. Hupp has questions regarding the amount allotted for volunteers and
what is included within that budget item. The board discussed that the event has been run by volunteers for the
last few years and it looks like the applicant is planning to have a few paid positions going forward.
Darab and Pace confirm the amount given by the TDA for the 2024 event. The board was generally in favor of
funding this full amount for their 2025 event.
Campbell said that she would plug these grant numbers into the draft budget for adoption/vote at the budget
public hearing. She said right now the board is planning to fund approximately $38,000 in grant requests.
B. Draft FY25 Tourism Board Budget
Campbell began the discussion regarding the FY25 Tourism Board Budget and opened it up for questions.
Czechlewski had questions regarding the total cost of the audit required. He commented that this amount seemed
high for the service that it is. Campbell confirmed that the cost of these types of government audits are high due
to the lack of contactors willing to take this kind of work, but that it is required by state law for the town as well as
the tourism boards to have one done. Campbell stated that there is money in the budget for a Revolutionary War
Trail sign this is set aside. She said the organization implementing these signs has had a delay but Campbell is
hopeful that the Town will be able to spend at least partial of the $6,000 set aside for some type of signage in
2025 in anticipation of the celebration of the 250th anniversary of the formation of the United States.
C. Contract Partner Renewals FY25
Campbell stated that the current budget for FY25 is showing a little over $80,000 in the red in regard to spending
more than anticipated revenue. She clarified that these funds would come from the fund balance. There was
some confusion about the need to discuss Contract Partners again since it was discussed in the previous meeting.
Campbell confirmed that discussions are ongoing at multiple meetings.
Czechlewski inquired about the possibility of moving the fund balance to a type of bank account that would
accrue interest. The group discussed pros and cons of this and if something like that is allowed for governments.
Campbell said that she would ask the Town’s Finance Director about this question.
Pace begins discussions for the approval of all contracts. Cabbage asked if there is benefit in looking to run the
budget as more of a balanced approach or if there is a purpose for keeping the fund balance high when the Board
has additional funds that could be used. The members indicated that since revenue has been exceeding what was
projected for the past few years, and that the Board anticipates similar if not more revenue in FY25, that it is
comfortable with using fund balance to cover projected revenue shortfalls.
Pace states that if for some reason these trends do not continue in the year to come then the Board can look to
tighten its belt for the following year significantly. Pace states that as of yet there has been no concern or
consequences with utilizing fund balance to fully fund contract partners and help them grow. Pace asked if a vote
was needed. Campbell said no, that they could discuss more and would need to vote to adopt the budget at the
budget public hearing next month.
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5. Monthly reports and comments
A. Budget Public Hearing June 3, 2024
Pace confirms this hearing date and time. Campbell requests that everyone try to attend this meeting as it will be
the final discussion and vote for these budget items for FY25. Kimball requests that members of the Contract
Partners attend this meeting in case there are additional questions. Pace reminds the group that she will be
unable to attend the June hearing date.
B. Board comments and updates
There were none.
6. Adjournment
Motion: Pace moved to adjourn the meeting at 7:31 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Shannan Campbell
Planning and Economic Development Manager
Staff support to the Hillsborough Tourism Board
Approved: June 3, 2024
Agenda
Agenda
Tourism Board Regular Meeting
5:30 PM May 06, 2024
Board Meeting Room, Town Hall Annex, 105 E. Corbin St.
1. Call to order
2. Minutes review and approval
A. Minutes March 4, 2024
B. Minutes April 10, 2024
3. Agenda changes and approval
4. Discussion items
A. Grant Scoring and Project Awards for FY25
B. Contract Partner Renewals for FY25
C. Draft FY25 Tourism Board Budget
5. Monthly Reports and Comments
-Budget Public Hearing June 3, 2024
6. Adjournment
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101 E. Orange St., PO Box 429, Hillsborough, NC 27278
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