Sanitary and Stormwater District Board
Regular MeetingHobart, IN · November 23, 2021
Minutes
CITY OF HOBART
SANITARY DISTRICT/STORM WATER BOARD MEETING
MEETING OF November 23, 2021
Mr. Fulton called the meeting of the Hobart Sanitary District to order at 5:00 p.m. Members in
attendance: Mr. James Mandon, Mr. Joe Broadaway, Mr. Dave Hill and Councilman Mark
Kopil. Also, in attendance: Clerk Treasurer Deborah Longer, Attorney Heather McCarthy,
Attorney Jim Meyer, Mr. Tim Kingsland, Mrs. Kelly Smith, Mr. Ty Lawson, Mr. Phil Schoon,
Mr. Sean Mikos, BF&S; Mr. Jake Dammarell, BF&S; Mr. Andrew Beison, Gasvoda; Mr.
Akraphat Sriplo, Mrs. Thitiarat Sriplo, and Lorie Leonard, HSD Secretary. Attendees via
phone: Mr. Coilin McConnell, Baxter & Woodman; Mr. Jack Eskin, Delta Institute; Megan
Lewis, Delta Institute and Chas Reilley, NWI Times
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
The Board was presented the minutes from the October 26, 2021 meeting. Mr. Broadaway
made a motion to approve the minutes as presented, seconded by Mr. Mandon. All aye, motion
carried. (4/0)
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
The Board was presented the agenda for the meeting. Mr. Fulton stated that Mr. Gralik
requested to add an item to the agenda, which is a potential project for the HSD property on
37th Avenue under the City Engineer’s report. Mr. Mandon made a motion to approve the
agenda as amended, seconded by Mr. Hill. All aye, motion carried. (4/0)
Mr. Gralik arrived at 5:05 p.m.
AKRAPHAT & THITIRAT SRIPLO – 953 Fleming Street:
Mr. & Mrs. Sriplo approached the Board to request additional financial assistance. There was
a brief discussion of how the amount paid to the residents has been calculated. It was also
mentioned that the cap had been raised for some of the residents who have already made
requests to the Board. Mr. Gralik mentioned that the neighbors are all talking with each other
and since we agreed to raise the cap for others, they feel the cap should be raised for them also.
Mr. Hill stated that he thinks we need to be consistent across the board. Mr. Fulton
questioned if each of the residents had submitted multiple quotes. Mr. Gralik and Mrs.
Leonard confirmed that each of the residents had submitted multiple quotes and that all of
them have been reviewed by Mr. Gralik. Mr. Fulton then stated that the we agreed to pay 80%
of the lowest quote. Mr. Broadaway mentioned that the issue had been discussed that residents
were having getting the contractors to respond to complete the work. There was a brief
discussion of how to resolve the issue. Mr. Fulton asked legal to advise. Attorney Meyer
stated that the Board could amend the formula to meet this special circumstance, and then
implement that amended formula. Mr. Gralik stated that raising the cap to $11k that would let
us pay the difference to all of the Fleming Street residents that we have not done so yet. Mr.
Hill made a motion to raise the cap for the 80/20 sanitary replacement project of the Army
Corp of Engineers 2020 Water Quality 219 project to $11,000, seconded by Mr. Mandon. All
aye, motion carried. (5/0) Clerk/Treasurer Deb Longer, requested that all of the residents who
were issued checks already receive a letter with copy to her office, stating why they are
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receiving the additional funds so they have a record on file for the State Board of Accounts.
Mrs. Leonard agreed to send the letters.
PUBLIC HEARING / STORM WATER RESOLUTION 2021-02:
Mr. Fulton gave an overview to the Board of the proposed system of rates and charges to
support the operation and maintenance of the City of Hobart’s Storm Water system.
Mr. Fulton opened the public meeting at 5:18 p.m.
Mr. Fulton asked if any one wishes to speak for or against the proposed rates to approach the
Board and state their name and address. He called for the second and third, and final, time if
anyone would like to address the Board for or against the proposed rates for the City of Hobart
Storm Water management system. Being no one wished to address the Board during the public
hearing, Mr. Fulton closed the hearing at 5:19 p.m.
Attorney Meyer asked for all written comments to be entered into the record. Clerk/Treasurer,
Deb Longer stated that no written comments had been received.
Mr. Fulton then stated to the Board that approval of the Storm Water Confirming Resolution
was needed. The resolution is confirming the proposed establishment of new revised user rates
and charges for the support of the operation and maintenance of the Storm Water District and
recommending the adoption of the user rates and charges by ordinance. He noted once the
Board approves the resolution, it will be presented to the Common Council for discussion and
consideration. Mr. Hill made a motion to adopt the Confirming Resolution for the new Storm
Water rates to be presented to the Common Council for approval, seconded by Mr. Gralik. All
aye, motion carried. (5/0)
CITY ENGINEER REPORT:
Mr. Gralik started his report stating that we already took care of the first item which was 935
and 955 Fleming Street residents. His next item is regarding Absolute Pipe who is cleaning,
root cutting and televising the list of pipes that Red Zone has in their scope. What we have
encountered is that Red Zone has not been able to televise some pipes because they are under
water because a pipe that Red Zone had previously televised, now has root and sediment
problems and is backing water up so the camera is under water, so they are having to clean
pipes that are outside of Red Zone scope in order to clean pipes that are in Red Zone’s scope.
Also, John Dubach has called Mr. Gralik about a couple of pipes that had previously been
televised by Red Zone that are not flowing, or 30% blocked with sediment, wanting to know if
they should clean them again. Mr. Gralik stated that he thinks we should go ahead and have
them cleaned, but wanted to bring it to the Board for their approval. There are two options,
either amend Red Zone’s scope to include the extra pipes, or deal directly with the contractor,
Absolute Pipe, that is already here and have them invoice us for this type of work. Mr. Gralik
then stated that he thinks we should have a new contract directly with Absolute Pipe to do the
work, rather than running it through Red Zone. There was a brief discussion of the details of a
new contract with Absolute Pipe. The consensus of the Board was to move forward with a
direct contract with Absolute Pipe. Mr. Gralik agreed to work on the contract and hopes to
have a contract to be approved at the next meeting.
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Next, Mr. Gralik stated that he has a proposed contract with Gasvoda for the SCADATA
system, which has been a long time coming. Attorney Meyer spoke up that the contract has
been pending so long that Indiana law has changed, which includes a contractor has to produce
documentation demonstrating that it has a drug testing program/drug-free work place program
which is consistent with the requirements of Indiana law. There was a brief discussion of the
changes in Indiana law that are need to be included in the contract. None of the changes
would affect the dollar amount, scope or schedule of the contract. There was a brief
discussion of the details of the contract. Mr. Gralik recommended the Board approve the
Gasvoda contract contingent upon the legal department’s review. Mr. Broadaway and Mr. Hill
made a motion to authorize the chairman to sign the contract pending review by the legal
department and additions/corrections to make it compliant with current Indiana law, seconded
by Mr. Mandon. All aye, motion carried. (5/0)
Mr. Gralik stated that the church across the street from our property on 37th Avenue is building
a new sanctuary, such that they need two fire hydrants that would be fed by an 8-inch water
main. It appears that New Chicago Water cannot supply the water sufficient for our fire
department to certify those hydrants for the church. They have approached the Mayor for any
assistance the City may be able to provide. We share several hundred feet of frontage with the
church on 37th Avenue, so the question is, would the District be willing to participate in the
water main extension just for our frontage to this property, so that the property that we are
trying to sell for development would have a 12-inch water main that would provide ample
water. There was a general discussion of the impact of water main on the property value.
HSD COORDINATOR REPORT
Mr. Kingsland stated that the contract with Baxter & Woodman had been presented to the
Board and asked Mr. Eskin to update the Board on the 10% fee increase request. Mr. Eskin
informed the Board that Baxter & Woodman and Cardno have submitted an updated schedule
of prices, a memo explanation, and an updated design-build contract for the Board’s
consideration. Mr. Eskin then went on to explain that the cost increases were due to increases
in staffing, fuel and materials costs, which led to the increase of the contract. Mr. Hill
responded that he has not experienced any circumstance where a bidder or contractor has been
asked to hold a price for over a year, and that a 10% increase is reasonable, considering the
market we are in. Mr. Hill made a motion to award the contract for the Restoration of Duck
Creek Tributary in the amount of $226,160, seconded by Mr. Mandon. All aye, motion
carried. (5/0)
LIFT STATION UPDATES / FLOW REPORT:
The Board members received via email the monthly report for October 2021; the Main Lift
Station recorded 131,017,000 gallons of sewage pumped to the Gary Sanitary District in
October 2021; this was an increase of 66,219,000 gallons pumped in September 2021. The
average daily flow for the month was 4.22 mgd. The White Oak Conservancy District readings
from October 1st through the 31st were a total of 4,492,500 gallons of flow. The average daily
flow recorded for the 31-day period was 144,919 gallons. Precipitation measured at the Main
Lift Station totaled 8.92 inches for the month. This was above the 10-year average of 4.89
inches for the month of October. Total for the year is 36.30 inches.
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SANITARY REPORT:
No report.
LEGAL REPORT:
Attorney Meyer confirmed that a letter was sent to the White Oak Conservancy District as a
final attempt to arrive at a mutually acceptable resolution of the delinquent fees owed and
changing the methodology for HSD invoicing WOCD going forward. Attorney Meyer stated
that he would forward the letter to Mrs. Leonard to forward on to the Board. There was a brief
discussion of WOCD. Attorney Meyer also confirmed that a letter has also been sent to St.
Mary’s Medical Center requesting to resolve the issues there.
FINANCIAL REPORT/INVOICE APPROVAL:
Mr. Fulton stated that the waste water billing department requested the Board adopt a motion
to allow them to re-institute liens for non-payment that had been stopped due to Covid-19.
There was a brief discussion of shut-offs and liens for non-payment. Mr. Gralik made a
motion to allow the waste water billing office to reinstitute liens for non-payment of service,
seconded by Mr. Broadaway. All aye, motion carried. (5/0)
The SRF Bond Claims list was presented to the Board for the month of December 2021. The
Bond and Interest invoice submitted for the December 2021 payment total is $19,551. Mr.
Broadaway made a motion to approve, seconded by Mr. Gralik. All aye, motion carried. (5/0)
The Financial Report was presented for the month of October 2021. The month began with a
balance of $4,036,202.40; total revenues of $869.131.52 and total disbursements of
$541,692.15 to end the month with a balance of $5,608,556.91. The Sanitary invoices
submitted for November 2021 total $243,781.92, Storm Water invoices submitted total
$44,182.42. Mr. Gralik made a motion to approve the invoices as presented, seconded by Mr.
Hill. All aye, motion carried. (5/0)
GENERAL DISCUSSION:
Mr. Gralik stated that he had intended to add this item to the agenda under his report, then
thanked the Board for allowing to add it under the General Discussion. Mr. Gralik then stated
that there had been a progress meeting on the force main and lift station project today, and
would like the Board’s consensus to move forward with the following the existing route of the
force main, which Mr. Mikos will be explaining to the Board. Mr. Mikos approached the
Board while handing out a copy of a diagram of the existing and alternate routing for the force
main. Prior to presenting the routes, Mr. Mikos made mention to the Board that while
reviewing the infrastructure at the main lift station the gauges for the discharge suction side of
the lift station seem to be inconsistent. Mr. Mikos has reached out to Gasvoda for a quote to
replace the gauges as they do affect the design calculations. Mr. Gralik spoke up to state that
the intent would be that we would re-use these gauges after the lift station upgrade. Mr. Mikos
then went on to say that he will be working with Attorney McCarthy next week on the GSD
agreement. He went on to say a contractor meeting was held on October 16th, proposals are
due December 8th. Mr. Mikos requested Board approval to hold a public hearing to meet all of
the general needs of the PER and SRF in December, with a meeting in January.
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Mr. Mikos then went on to show the Board using the diagram where there may be parcels with
issues with using the existing route of the force main, as well as explained where there may be
issues with the alternate route on the diagram. Mr. Mikos gave a brief update of the two routes
including any issues with rights-of-way and utilities. Mr. Mikos stated that their
recommendation at this time would be to follow the existing force main. There was a brief
discussion of the details of the route, such as the difference in the length of the routes, depth
and the distance of the new route from the existing route. There was a brief discussion of the
issues of the current main and the purpose of the new main, such as breaks, excessive flow,
and maintenance as well as avoiding an emergency situation. Mr. Mandon stated concerns of
the distance between the two mains if less than 10 feet between the current main and suggested
using the alternate route. There was a brief discussion. Mr. Gralik clarified, that the decision
was to follow the existing route but try to find any points where there would not be separation
of at least 10-feet, and find another solution, such as re-routing or buying more right-of-way.
He then asked Mr. Mikos if he could start the surveys and locates and then come back to the
second HDS meeting in December, then we can decide the actual route from there.
There was a brief discussion of the gauges that needed to be purchased for the main lift station
and whether or not the purchase was ready to be approved by the Board, and how quickly they
need to be replaced. Mr. Mikos agreed to get two additional quotes for the next HSD meeting.
ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further comments or discussion, Mr. Hill made a motion to adjourn, seconded
by Mr. Gralik. All ayes, motion carried. (5/0)
Meeting adjourned at 7:02 p.m.
_______________________________ _____________________________
Robert Fulton, President Lorie Leonard
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Agenda
Next Resolution Numbers:
Sanitary: 2021-02
Storm Water: 2021-02
Joint: 2021-05
CITY OF HOBART
SANITARY DISTRICT / STORM WATER MANAGEMENT BOARD MEETING
November 23, 2021
COUNCIL CHAMBERS 5:00 P.M.
AGENDA
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PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: October 26, 2021
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
AKRAPHAT & THITIRAT SRIPLO – 953 Fleming Street: Discussion / Consideration
PUBLIC HEARING / STORM WATER RESOLUTION 2021-02: A Resolution Confirming the
Proposed Establishment of a New Revised System of User Rates and Charges for the Support of
the Operation and Maintenance of the City Storm Water System, Confirming a Spending Plan
for the Department of Storm Water Management, Providing for Payment and Collection of Such
Fees through the Property Tax Statements of Affected Property Owners, and Recommending
Adoption of Said User Rates, Charges and Manner of Collection by Ordinance of the Common
Council.
CITY ENGINEER:
935 & 955 Fleming Street Residents 80/20 Cost Share: Discussion / Consideration
Absolute Pipe Additional Services: Discussion
SCADATA Proposal / Contract: Discussion / Consideration
HSD COORDINATOR REPORT:
Approval of Baxter & Woodman Contract: Discussion / Consideration
LIFT STATION REPORT:
SANITARY REPORT:
LEGAL DEPARTMENT UPDATE:
FINANCIAL REPORT / INVOICE / SRF BOND CLAIMS APPROVAL:
Waste Water Billing Liens 2022: Discussion / Consideration
GENERAL DISCUSSION:
ADJOURNMENT:
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