Idaho Falls Redevelopment Agency
Regular MeetingIdaho Falls, ID · July 20, 2017
Minutes
IDAHO FALLS REDEVELOPMENT AGENC Y
P.O. BOX 50220
IDAHO FALLS, ID 83405
July 22, 2017 Regular Meeting Minutes Council Chambers
Call to Order: Lee Radford called the meeting to order at 12:00.
Members Present: Lee Radford, Brent Thompson, Kirk Larsen, Terri Gazdik, Dave Radford.
Members Absent: Thomas Halley, Chris Harvey
Also Present: Brad Cramer; Ryan Armbruster, Legal Counsel (via telephone); and interested citizens.
Modifications to Agenda: Cramer indicated that item #7 Request for Assistance for Riverwalk Drive,
can be removed as the applicant is not prepared to present their request today.
Minutes: Brent Thompson moved to approve the minutes of June 15, 2017 Kirk Larsen seconded
the motion and it passed unanimously.
Approval of Bills: Mark Hagedorn stated that Elam and Burke and Rebecca Thompson are the typical
monthly bills with no question. Hagedorn indicated that the checks to Kent Lott of $50,000.00 each are
for each agreement, and he has not requested the money yet, but there is indication that he will soon.
Hagedorn stated that he is preemptively asking for the checks to be cut so he is ready when Mr. Lott does
request the checks. Radford reminded the Board Members that $50,000 was the payment for the option to
purchase the Bonneville Hotel, and another $50,000.00 was to extend the option for an additional two
years. Radford stated that the $100,000 will be applied to the purchase price of the hotel once the
property closes. Radford stated that Lott has not wanted the payment yet. Cramer stated that Lott wanted
to set up an account specifically for the funds for tax reasons. Lee Radford presented the finance report
dated July 22, 2017. The following bills were presented to be paid from the Snake River Allocation Fund:
Elam and Burke, $2,178.18 for legal services; Rebecca Thompson, $85.00 for transcription of minutes.
Kirk Larsen moved to approve the Finance Report, Brent Thompson seconded the motion and it
passed unanimously.
Review of Draft Budget. Mark Hagedorn presented the Draft Budget. Hagedorn indicated that for River
Commons, Pancheri, and Eagle Ridge Districts he based the property tax revenue on the actual, plus
forecast of what could be levied this year. Hagedorn stated that they did put the Jackson Hole Junction
District as a place holder if that District goes through and gets approved. Hagedorn stated that they
increased the professional fees, as things are changing this year. Hagedorn stated that the City
Administration and audit fees are consistent from year to year. Hagedorn indicated that in the Snake
River Commons District is in a wrap up year as the District will be closing soon. Hagedorn stated that for
the construction project they put in what the available cash will be for that year. Hagedorn stated that he
did an analysis on the projected property tax revenue this year, how much expenses (i.e. OPA
agreements), and the projected revenue that they will get next year. Hagedorn stated that the $4.3 million
will liquidate all the cash. Hagedorn indicated that is a conservative number. Hagedorn stated that if they
don’t spend more this year, they can budget more next year. Hagedorn suggested jumping the number up
a bit in case they don’t get all of what was anticipated being spent, spent. Hagedorn asked if they want to
go more aggressive with the number and make sure they are at capacity for the budget, or stick with the
conservative number. Radford stated and Hagedorn agreed that they are talking about the capital projects.
Hagedorn stated that the $4.3 in capital projects is what he believes the remaining cash will be. Hagedorn
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stated that it all depends on the spending this year. Radford stated that they have a separate analysis of
cash flow on the projects and that gives a great picture of where they are going. Hagedorn asked if they
agree with the $4.3 million. Radford indicated that he agrees with the $4.3 million. Hagedorn stated that
his only concern is the budgetary capacity. Cramer asked if the $4.3 million will include the purchase of
the Bonneville Hotel. Radford indicated that the purchase price was in last year. Hagedorn stated that
they are including: $345,000 for Pioneer Road; $1.4 million in Bonneville Hotel Purchase; and $1 million
for Woodbury. Cramer stated the closing on the Bonneville will not happen until Spring 2018. Hagedorn
stated that they would then need to add the $1.5 million to the capital projects. Radford stated that the
Eagle Ridge Revenue Allocation Fund is showing at $1.15 million for capital projects. Hagedorn stated
that is just capacity and that is what has been done in the past years. Hagedorn stated that this year’s
budget is the same that was budgeted last year and was just rolled forward. Gazdik stated and Hagedorn
agreed that in the Snake River Revenue Allocation Fund there is a fund balance carry over of $2.6
million. Hagedorn clarified that the $2.6 million is after designations. Thompson stated and Hagedorn
agreed that if they put $1.5 million into the Bonneville, it will raise that fund carryover and the correct
capital budget by the same amount. Cramer stated that in the Pancheri Revenue Allocation Fund there is
no specific projects planned, but they have had conversations with some of the property owners that are
interested in using the funding, and so it may make some sense to add in whatever the cash balance is for
that account in case that project does come to fruition. Cramer stated that it would be approximately
$550,000.00. Hagedorn indicated that currently they have $633,000 in cash and the next big tax payment
should arrive any day. Hagedorn stated that it will go up another $50,000-$75,000 for Pancheri. Cramer
stated that there is a $0 for capital projects. Hagedorn asked if they would like him to put $750,000 for
capital projects. Radford stated that on Pancheri they are showing $633,000 available funds, but doesn’t
show up as a carry over. Hagedorn indicated that the carry-over is just a way to balance the budget for
the year, and they are not listing the full cash balance. Radford indicated that it doesn’t have to be exact
as it is just a best estimate. Dave Radford asked Armbruster if they can open the budget during the middle
of the year if something happens. Armbruster stated that you can open the budget if anything
extraordinary occurs during the year, you’d just have to go through the same process to amend the budget.
Hagedorn indicated that it is by entity and not by individual fund. Armbruster indicated that it is difficult
on revenue allocation areas as they cannot move monies among or between individual areas. Hagedorn
stated that overall as an Agency they are ok, with the changes and will not go over budget. Hagedorn
asked if one fund goes over budget do they have to go back and open the budget. Gazdik clarified that
Hagedorn is proposing that they will be budgeting in a deficit with the $750,000. Hagedorn stated that by
the end of next year they will have the $750,000 in cash. Hagedorn stated that they will get $50,000 this
year and maybe $50-75,000 for next year. Larsen stated that they would still be in the deficit. Hagedorn
stated that the negative balance is misleading and when it states its negative it just means that there is
more cash than expenses. Gazdik stated that if they input $750,000 in proposed capital expenditures on
the budget they aren’t increasing the revenue section, so they would be budgeting for a deficit for this
year in that fund. Hagedorn stated that this is a cash balance and they will increase the carry over fund
balance at the same time. Gazdik asked if they would change the fund balance. Hagedorn stated that
right now they have $633,000. Radford stated that one change needed is to put on the Snake River
Revenue Allocation Fund add $1.4 million to the capital projects to purchase the Bonneville Hotel, so the
$4.3 would change to $5.7 million, and then change Pancheri and add capital improvements of
$750,000.00. Dave Radford asked if they are mixing one year’s operating statement with the prior year’s
income. Hagedorn stated that the thought is they have cash in Pancheri, and they believe they will have
$750,000 in cash, so they are just indicating on the budget that they would like to spend the $750,000
next year. Cramer stated that an alternative is to leave it as it is, and if they must open the budget during
the year, then they can. Radford stated that Pancheri doesn’t seem concrete enough, and so the proposal
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would be to only add $1.4 million to the capital projects on the Snake River Fund to increase that from
$4.3 to $5.7 for the purchase of the Bonneville Hotel.
Dave Radford moved to make a change to the draft budget to add $1.4 million to the Snake River
Revenue Allocation Fund for the purchase of the Bonneville Hotel, which would change the $4.3
million listed on the draft budget to $5.7 million and tentatively approve the budget and direct staff
to publish the budget, Thompson seconded the motion and it passed unanimously.
Hagedorn stated that the budget will be published on August 6 and August 13.
Armbruster stated that when the Agency meets in August they will have a formal Appropriation of
Budget Resolution for the Agency to consider and can attach the document that is being published onto
the resolution. Armbruster stated that if there are any changes at the public hearing they can be made by a
revised exhibit. Armbruster stated that they can always go down on the budget from what was published,
but they cannot go up.
Request for Assistance. Lorin Walker.
Lorin Walker. Walker stated that they are making a request for consideration of assistance on the
blasting and removal of the lava on Lot 2 of Taylor Crossing. Walker stated that Lot 2 comprises the
area where Culvers Restaurant is located and the area north where there has been a big hole from lava
blast and removal. Walker stated that there are two pieces to the request. Walker stated that in 2010 they
had an approved blasting and removal under the IFRA Plan on Lot 2 and they did the blasting, but the
potential tenants all disappeared, so it just left a hole. Walker stated that the first tenant on Lot 2 was
Culvers. Walker stated that Culvers is now opened. Walker stated that they are asking for consideration
to participate in a reimbursement for the lava. Walker stated that half of the $350,000.00 was for the first
round at the onset of the recession (2010) and the second half of the cost was recently incurred for
Culvers.
Radford stated that for the portion for culvers the request is $171,000.00. Walker stated that Culvers is
part of a 500+ national chain restaurant. Walker stated that Culvers is operated by an experienced
franchisee that has stores in Twin Falls and opening in Meridian soon. Walker stated that the store in
Twin Falls has done well. Walker stated that they have a long-term lease. Walker stated that they are
leasing the building with the intent of purchasing the building in 5-10 years. Walker stated that they
should be a strong player in the market.
Cramer stated that the valuation on the building and how the County has valued the lot, the rough
estimate for tax revenue was $28,000. Cramer stated that traditionally the Agency will look for a 5-year
return on the investment and that would put them at about $140,000.00. Cramer indicated that the
numbers are rough. Dave Radford stated that sometimes the building permits don’t always indicate what
the actual value is placed on the building. Radford asked if they would have to enter into a new OPA to
consider this request. Armbruster stated that they would have to have another agreement, and given the
limitation of the term of the revenue allocation they would have to pay for this up front, and Armbruster
indicated that he would probably prepare something like a grant agreement that is straight forward and not
nearly as complex as the OPA with Taylor Crossing. Thompson asked if there are similar agreements
with Deseret Book and Indian Motorcycle. Cramer indicated that it is a similar agreement. Radford stated
Deseret Book came to the Agency before starting the project and the Agency was able to control some
costs. Radford stated that Indian Motorcycle came to the Agency late and had already started turning dirt
and because of that it diminished what they could help with because they weren’t able to participate in
governing. Radford stated that Deseret book was able to shift the footprint so they could avoid a lot of
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basalt and lower the cost. Radford asked Lorin Walker why he didn’t come and talk to the Agency before
they started turning dirt on the project. Lorin Walker stated that they had the termination agreement and
they questioned whether there was any potential for participation. Lorin Walker stated that at the time
they didn’t feel it was something they could approach the Agency on. Lorin Walker stated that in
retrospect they should have come to the Agency first. Walker stated that they spent a lot of time trying to
minimize the cost. Walker stated that they ended up raising the building 1 foot to avoid some rock.
Walker stated that on Lot 2 there is 2 ½ - 3 acres and so they were constrained between Pancheri setbacks
and Utah and the curb cuts that were pre-designed by the State off Pancheri, so they had a tight corner to
work with. Walker stated that they believe they ended up in the most affordable spot.
Radford stated that the Agency wants new projects to develop, and if there is a proposal the Agency does
want to encourage the development. Thomson asked if Lot 2 is where Culvers is located. Cramer
indicated that he created the photo that shows Lot 2 and 3 and stated that there is a typo on Lot 3 and he
was trying to differentiate where Culver’s sits vs. what is still undeveloped. Thompson clarified that Lot
2is the yellow (Culvers) and the blue as shown on the Photo is undeveloped. Thompson clarified and
Walker agreed that Culvers isn’t occupying the entire blue and yellow area. Thompson asked and Walker
Confirmed that some of the blasting that has occurred for future development. Walker stated that the blue
is future development and the yellow is developed. Thompson asked if the blue and yellow shows the
demarcation between the $170,000 and the $175,000. Larsen asked and Walker confirmed that the blue
was done years ago and has sat. Radford stated that the blue area is on the market and hopefully can
develop soon. Gazdik asked if there is more blasting that needs to be done on Lot 3. Walker stated that
there is minimal blasting that would be needed in the future. Walker indicated that a lot of the rocks on
Lot 3 are loose and just need excavated, not blasted. Thompson stated that the incremental tax that is
generated is going to relate to what has been done for the Culver’s part ($171,000). Cramer stated that
between the land and the building he figured $2.2 million. Larsen asked if there is anyone looking to
develop the first area that was blasted. Walker stated that people are looking, but they have no
commitments. Larsen asked if this project moves forward and another building is built does the Agency
get the incremental tax on the new building. Radford stated that the tax is now as the District expires and
nothing will be able to be built in time to receive taxes on it. Armbruster stated that the District expires in
2018 and you get revenues in 2019 based on the 2018 taxes.
Larsen indicated that he may have a potential conflict of interest and will not be voting.
Radford indicated that they do want projects to come to the Agency before they are built, but Culvers is a
good project, so they can discuss it. Radford stated that the hole (blue area) is a lot that someone could
develop on. Radford indicated that the Agency doesn’t help with plots unless there is something definite.
Radford stated that if someone came and made a proposal on the lot the Agency could be able to help
with some of the lot. Radford stated that the Culvers lot is a good development and is contributing taxes
even though the Agency will only get 1.5 – 2 years of tax revenue.
Dave Radford stated that without a building or an improvement on the Lot 3 (blue lot) he has a hard time
supporting that. Dave Radford stated that the Culvers lot if they pulled back on it they could work with
the tax increment, although he believes it is valued high. Dave Radford stated he would agree that 1 year
at $28,000.
Thompson indicated that they should consider coming up with a standardized reimbursement cost for
lava. Thompson stated that the whole idea is to increase tax revenue, so maybe it has to be based on tax
revenue. Thompson stated that he would be in favor of reimbursement of Culvers and can see where the
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blue area is a timing issue. Thompson stated that if they delay on the blue area, it might incentivize
developers to get someone going on that lot.
Gazdik stated that she is in favor of reimbursement for the lava removal, as it is a risky endeavor for the
developer as they do not know how much lava they will encounter and that is part of the Agency’s
purpose is to encourage that development. Gazdik indicated that she is in favor of assisting with the
Culver’s lot, but not excited about the blue lot as there is no way to know how long it will sit there.
Radford stated that they only have the general ledger of what they charged and we don’t know what was
removed and they haven’t done an engineering analysis on it.
Lorin Walker stated that it was pretty much all lava, and it became a time and material issue. Walker
stated that the test faults that they did tricked them, and there was a lot more lava than what was expected.
Walker stated that they ended up with Jerome Bolen on a time and material basis. Walker stated that
originally the job was bid to haul the rock away, and they changed it to put the lava on Lot 3 to minimize
the cost. Walker stated that the building foundation and utilities had to be blasted as well as the parking
lot.
Radford stated that the you had to blast the foundation, the storm water retention pond, the sewer and
water lines, and the parking lot. Walker stated that some of the things that they incurred the cost on, will
be a benefit down the road to other developments in the area. Walker stated that the sewer and storm
drain will receive more than what has been developed. Walker stated that there is only one curb cut off
Pancheri into Lot 2, and to develop to the west along Pancheri, they will need to come through and have a
traffic access. Walker stated that the blasting of the driveway and entrance will benefit other developers.
Thompson asked if they have the cubic yardage. Walker stated that because they could give an estimate
of the yardage. Walker stated that they have the engineered profile, that shows how far they went down,
so they could estimate the yardage.
Dave Radford stated that he felt that Walker didn’t work with staff well even though he has a good
relationship with Brad Cramer. Lorin Walker stated that he does have a good communication channel
with IFRA. Lorin Walker stated that the timing of information on Culvers is the problem, as they are not
done with Culvers. Walker stated that they could have spoon fed their invoices from Bolen to staff as
they occurred. Walker stated that they aren’t done, but he has no intention of approaching the Agency
with more costs. Walker stated that there is a request by Culvers to widen the curb cut onto Utah. Walker
stated that he just got the bid to remove the curb and possibly some lava to put the larger curb in. Walker
stated that due to the nature of the lava, it has been hard to know when the project is going to end.
Radford stated that all the Agency has is a general ledger showing invoices. Radford stated that he could
have staff look at it and get with the engineers. Radford stated that normally there would be a plan as to
what would be done and the engineers could look at that and once the job was completed the Agency
would pay after the CO and the engineers verified that the project was all done. Radford stated that the
steps have been missed, so try to make them up and work with staff to get the invoices and have the
engineer review it and then come up with a recommendation for next month. Radford stated that there
will be a discount for lateness, but the Agency does want to help.
Walker indicated that he is confident that he can get all the records necessary.
Dave Radford moved to authorize staff to work with Lorin Walker to review invoices and go over
the project with the engineers, and authorize Ryan Armbruster to begin working on a grant
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agreement, Brent Thompson seconded the motion. Radford called for roll call vote: Gazdik, yes;
Lee Radford, yes; Thompson, yes; Dave Radford, yes.
Jackson Hole Junction Update. Cramer stated that the proposal went to City Council and the Eligibility
Report was approved and accepted and authorization was given to create a plan for the area. Cramer
stated that Meghan Conrad and Ryan Armbruster will work hard to meet the deadlines that have been set.
Armbruster stated that they will be working on a plan with Phil Kushlan and the Developer and they will
try to stay on schedule and have something for discussion soon. Radford clarified that the Plan will
contain the limitations that have been discussed. Armbruster stated that they will put something in there
on types of activities as well as consider a duration for the Plan or cost/eligibility limit.
The Broadway Project (Kelsch Property) Update. Cramer stated that the project is moving forward
and there is a tentative ground breaking scheduled for August 7 at 11:00 a.m.Cramer stated that they are
working on getting drawings submitted to the City. Cramer stated that they will do a phase approach.
Cramer stated that the design of the plaza and what features it needs to include is the current question.
Cramer stated that they have put together a group of City staff and stake holders to review. Cramer stated
that there wasn’t a lot of budget put into the numbers to do much of the plaza and so the City has
committed to try to find some partners to fill in the gap so it looks nicer. Cramer stated that they are
finalizing the numbers on the garage to make sure that those will stay under the budget. Cramer stated
that assuming all the things fall into place the project should continue on schedule.
Radford stated that he attended the meeting on the plaza. Radford stated that the Agency doesn’t build
amenities only infrastructure. Radford stated that hopefully someone will step up, possibly some interest
groups (i.e. INL, Ag).
Dave Radford stated that he is happy to help in any way he can with his contacts.
Lee Radford stated that Greg Weitzel from Parks and Recreation and Dana Briggs is going to reach out to
the private organizations to see if there is any interest.
Lee Radford stated that as of June 1, 2017 he has changed law firms and is now with Parsons, Behle,
Latimer, which is a larger firm out of Salt Lake City. Radford stated that prior to him switching firms
there was no possibility that the firm he was with would be interested in the Oppenheimer site. Radford
stated that since joining the new firm, several of the memmbers have started to look at the site, as their
lease ends in 18 months. Radford stated that due to that he needs to recuse himself from any further
involvement in the Oppenheimer project. Radford stated that Brent Thompson will take charge of
conducting the meetings and taking the lead on that project.
The Bonneville Hotel Update. Cramer stated that The Housing Company did apply for their funding
source with the Affordable Housing Program in June. Cramer stated that they have met with people that
deal with the awards and believe they scored high enough that they should be funded, and the awards will
be announced in December. Cramer stated that they are currently getting the tax credit applications
prepared that are due in August. Cramer stated that they have been good about contacting staff in advance
of needing documents. Cramer stated that they are very positive about receiving the tax credit award.
Cramer stated that they have gone around the country to various trainings, and one concern they had when
they revised the financial package is that there was a devaluation of the tax credits, however, the tax
credits have not decreased as far as originally thought.
RAI & Legislative Activities. Armbruster stated that there is nothing to report.
Next Regular Meeting: August 17, 2017.
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Dave Radford moved to adjourn the meeting, Kirk Larsen seconded the motion and it passed
unanimously.
Respectfully Submitted: Beckie Thompson
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