Idaho Falls Utility Board Meetings
Regular MeetingIdaho Falls, ID · February 1, 2023
Minutes
February 1, 2023
The Idaho Falls Power Board of the City of Idaho Falls met Wednesday, February 1, 2023, at the Idaho
Falls Power Boardroom, 140 S. Capital, Idaho Falls, Idaho at 8:00 a.m.
Call to Order, Roll Call, and Announcements:
There were present:
Mayor Rebecca L Noah Casper
Board Member Michelle Ziel-Dingman
Board Member Tom Hally
Board Member Jim Francis
Board Member Jim Freeman
Board Member John Radford
Board Member Lisa Burtenshaw (via Zoom)
Also present:
Bear Prairie, Idaho Falls Power (IFP) General Manager (via Zoom)
Stephen Boorman, IFP Assistant General Manager
Robert Coward, MPR Associates, Inc. Principal Officer
John Kotek, Nuclear Energy Institute (NEI) Senior VP for Policy Development and Public Affairs
Linda Lundquist, IFP Board Secretary
Mayor Casper called the meeting to order at 8:00 a.m.
Calendar, Announcements, Events and Updates
Mayor Casper reminded the Board of an upcoming Council work session and stated that the goal of today’s
meeting is to obtain as much information as possible from the invited guests to make an informed decision
in the small amount of time before the offramp deadline set by the project of Feb. 17, 2023. She added that
if the Board is not ready to adopt a new resolution by the Feb. 9 City Council meeting that additional
meetings may be scheduled.
Carbon Free Power Project (CFPP) Discussion
General Manager (GM) Prairie reviewed the participant offramp options and compared the city’s financial
obligations with no-reimbursement triggered by the project management committee (PMC) if the city leaves
the project now or stays in the project for another year to what the city’s obligation would be if the PMC
decides to terminate the entire project under a reimbursement scenario and no-reimbursement scenario, per
the terms of Development cost and Reimbursement Agreement (DCRA). He reminded the Board the figures
are based on the status quo of the subscription and other participants. He reviewed the economics of the
Department of Energy (DOE) appropriation, NuScale reimbursable costs triggered by the PMC under
eligible terms of the DCRA, the Utah Associated Municipal Power Systems (UAMPS) non-reimbursable
costs, Idaho Falls Power’s current portion, amount paid to date, and net still owed. GM Prairie explained
that he set up a liability fund to pay as we go after the last offramp period, for the current phase 1A that IFP
is in. Mayor Casper mentioned there was a new all-time high peak load set earlier in the week. Mr. Kotek
of the Nuclear Energy Institute (NEI) explained that the city would be obligated to $5.4 million dollars to
stay in the project. He said that having met with then Energy Secretary Moniz nearing the end of the Obama
administration, that it was clear the world had committed to decarbonization and that nuclear could work
and would be a good path forward and should be accomplished in ways that the grid stays strong and
reliable. Mr. Coward of MPR explained his role in working with the DOE and Idaho National Laboratory
(INL) and the need for value-based load generation to go along with intermittent wind and solar, especially
in regions that will be retiring coal. He said these regions are going to need something that is firm, clean
generation like nuclear and added that over the long-term, makes good economic sense. He explained that
Idaho Falls Power already has 85% clean generation in hydropower, which is a good selling point to attract
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new business. He said that hosting a nuclear project is ideal and will add jobs for decades to the region and
pointed out that adding 5 megawatts (MW) of firm generation, while at a higher price is worth it in the long-
term.
Mayor Casper reviewed the order of conduct and invited the Board Members to begin asking their questions.
Board Member Francis said the technology isn’t concerning him like the financial risk is and acknowledged
that while the levelized cost of energy (LCOE) has increased from $58 to $89 in 2022 dollars, he asked why
the cost per megawatt hasn’t doubled like the cost of acquisition has. Mr. Kotek pointed out that $58
represents 2020 dollars while $89 represents 2022 dollars, and said that the LCOE capital costs where the
mortgage is paid over the full length of the plant also includes operation costs, which has barely increased
at all. Board Member Francis stated that he is not aware that the DOE has doubled their support. Mr. Kotek
offered a point of clarity in that the $89 covered in the DCRA provides risk mitigation and pointed out that
if the LCOE is above $89 then UAMPS gets reimbursed. He explained that the project understands and
knows there are two numbers that must be achieved by December 2023 to continue; an $89 LCOE in 2022
dollars and that the project has to be subscribed 80%. He added that currently the LCOE is above the $89
and the goal this year is to reduce the number to $89 or below. Mr. Kotek stated that the project has a
working assumption that if the project doesn’t meet $89 LCOE and 80% subscription by December 2023
that he would expect the PMC to withdraw. Board Member Francis reiterated his fear that the costs will
continue to rise and Mr. Coward said that reducing the cost is the nuclear guy’s problem (NuScale needs to
bring down their costs to under $89) and added that he can’t promise the budget won’t increase but the
LCOE has to come down below $89 by December and added that there is a rigorous risk management plan
in place. Board Member Francis asked if new participants are allowed to join the project at better terms
then when IFP joined in 2018 and Mr. Kotek said the project is working on bringing in subscription in 2023
at terms that aren’t as good as the first subscribers and are trying to work out a disincentive for those waiting
to get onboard. Mr. Coward pointed out that when the project first began there weren’t the strict energy
policies in place yet in Oregon, Washington and California, which in his estimation now creates more
demand for firm, clean generation. Mr. Kotek explained how the project is working on their subscription
by adding new personnel, revisiting organizations and added that he feels there is building interest in the
“watchers”. Mr. Coward added that California’s Governor Newsome is now a proponent to save the nuclear
plants, but will be at the cost of the rate payers. Assistant General Manager (AGM) Boorman asked what
the current subscription rates is and Mr. Coward said 20%.
Board Member Freeman asked if there were any ripples in the project when IFP reduced subscription from
10 MW to 5 MW and added that it’s easy to say we’re all in and said, “I am all in like Board Member
Francis is.” He added that it’s important that it’s in our own backyard, but expressed his concern with how
the project might impact the rate payers. He asked if there is any value in forcing the DOE’s hand and Mr.
Coward said the DOE is already footing the bill at 80% of the development phase costs, which in his opinion
is a lot of support. He said he attributes some of the renewed interest in the project to the Inflation Reduction
Act (IRA) that recently passed legislation, which offers a 30-50% tax credit. He said they will continue to
work with the DOE and INL partners and explained that some of the complication is that Idaho Power is
onsite at the lab and not Idaho Falls Power and that the public utility commission (PUC) is also involved.
Mr. Coward noted that the lab has a policy to go carbon free and AGM Boorman pointed out that INL is
IFP’s biggest customer. Mr. Coward said that he will continue exerting powers of persuasion on them and
Board Member Freeman added that he thought if the project were not to move forward, that INL least of
all would want to save a first-of-kind, first-in-line project. Mr. Coward agreed that more can be done, but
said he questions the appropriators and potential changes in the cost share award and noted that the project
is beyond what they are allowed to allocate for themselves and said they would have to ask for it and even
then, would the DOE step in to save the project? He said that is more for the appropriators to decide than
the DOE.
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Mr. Kotek said it was his opinion that IFP’s subscription reduction move from 10 MW to 5 MW wasn’t
really noticed and added that when the Joint Use Module Plant (JUMP) module went away that many
subscribers reduced subscription, contrary to now where people are paying attention inside and outside of
the project and added that word is out that IFP is waffling. Mayor Casper asked what the implications are
if IFP were to pull out. Mr. Kotek said that the Oakridge Tennessee Valley Authority is moving forward
with their $200 million plan and Board Member Francis again reiterated his concern with the unknown total
cost to the rate payers. Mr. Kotek explained that he hears from Georgia Power that they deliver power at
promised costs with their built-in risk management, which insulates rate payers from the cost increases that
IFP is currently seeing. Mr. Coward said he realizes the decision is making the Board anxious. He gave a
historical perspective by explaining that the original cost came in at $55 LCOE, which was a top-down,
class 5 estimate developed by NuScale based on a 12-module plant at 60 MW. He said that when the project
moved to a 6-pack of 77 MW, it was at a class 4 estimate and explained that once it became a class 3, it was
considered a bottom-up estimate, which includes conceptual designs for everything in the plant. Mr. Coward
continued to explain that the class 2 (he expects will be delivered Fall 2023) will be a refinement of the
class 3, with real cost estimates from over 100 vendors. He added that if the class 2 is not in line with what
is expected, then that’s a pause for all to think and pointed out that it would also trigger another offramp.
He said the strategy is to create a situation to address costs and bring back an updated vision of the plan
based on refinement and further engineering. Mr. Coward recommended that the Board wait until the class
2 estimate comes in to make a decision. He pointed out that when the DCRA was signed December 2020,
no one knew that construction costs would increase by 40% and that interest rates would double. He said
that the market and inflation has substantially changed in the last two years. He said he believes IFP needs
a portfolio of options that are advancing at different paces and at different rates and added that the cost to
stay in the project over the next year is small. Board Member Radford asked if the potential additional
financial risk would trigger an offramp in the fall. Mr. Coward gave three options: 1) If the project doesn’t
come in at $89 LCOE and 80% subscribed, then everyone is most likely out (PMC will discontinue the
project), 2) If the project beats $89 LCOE and comes in the mid-$80’s subscribed, then everyone stays in
(if they so choose) and the project can continue, 3) The project could fall somewhere in between options 1
and 2 and he noted that the answer will be obvious in the fall. Board Member Burtenshaw said that assuming
the project gets 80% subscribed, is there a path to construction with small municipalities using their bond
ratings? She is also concerned that the project keeps advancing at higher and higher costs but with no path
to construction. Additionally, Board Member Burtenshaw is concerned about construction cost overruns
and IFP’s financial responsibility for those. Mr. Coward stated that Bank of America hold the current line
of credit and said he believes if the project beats the $89 LCOE that the project can bond out. He explained
there are three tranches of bonding during construction and said that the owners (participants) are on the
hook to pay as the project is getting built and once built that UAMPS notifies the DOE and they wire $3.5
billion dollars under the terms of the IRA tax incentives to the bank (pending qualifications). Board Member
Burtenshaw asked whose security is the bonding based on and GM Prairie clarified that UAMPS carries no
credit rating and pointed out that the credit rating is based on participants and their individual projects and
subscription levels. Board Member Burtenshaw reiterated her concerns that money is continually being
spent with no outcome or bridge to construction and that the project is selling subscription to small
municipalities and wants to know why big power companies aren’t subscribing. Mr. Coward said his
experience with the public has been positive and believes the finance people can get it built.
Board Member Hally gave some examples of large projects that were built despite high inflation and cost
overruns with railroads, the Hoover and Grand Coulee dams and feels the Board should consider its long-
term responsibility and take the risks because they pay off in the end. He said that he is in favor of the CFPP
project and added that risks are taken for good reasons and you tend to minimize the consequences for
where you’re heading. He supports taking risks and thinks it’s a good project. Board Member Radford said
this could be a legacy defining decision and noted that electric rates tend to be 70% lower in Idaho Falls
than the east coast, and said that firm, clean generation leads to long-term, well-paying jobs. Mr. Coward
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said the CFPP has been doing a good job mitigating risk and thought that even if the budget is missed by
25%, that the project is still affordable and reiterated his recommendation to review the refreshed numbers
in the fall. Board Member Radford said that no one has fought harder than he for the project, but worries
about taking such a huge risk for only 5 MW of generation and Mr. Coward acknowledged that it’s
unfortunate that there is a political and financial risk for Idaho Falls. Board Member Ziel-Dingman
commented that the Clean Energy Survey was targeted to community members interested in clean energy
and that there are more serious issues at play that are leading people into financial crisis like housing access
and affordability. Mr. Coward said it is generally understood that decarbonized energy comes at a higher
cost and the challenge is speculating on the answers to the two questions that everyone is trying to, but that
no one can answer with confidence: how much more and who will pay? He said these are questions that
many are trying to solve and pointed out that unfortunately this group is under a deadline to decide. Mr.
Coward continued to explain that the region needs to add firm generation and the preference would be to
build something in Idaho instead of exporting jobs to Wyoming or Oregon. Mayor Casper asked if cost
estimates are based on a 40-year lifespan and Mr. Coward said when the figures are refreshed in the fall,
they should reflect a 60-year lifespan. Mayor Caper pointed out the risks she sees as, congress and its’
appropriations, the question of is value engineering getting done, the risk of the PMC’s ability to make wise
decisions and the vison in the U.S. Congress over the next two years. She asked if the class 2 estimate will
lead to a better decision. Mr. Coward said he thought the PMC is putting a lot of emphasis on the DCRA
and that many other participants take comfort in the DCRA to keep trying. He said they made it very clear
to the DOE about the appropriators and sent letters to the U.S. House and Senate Committees that if they
mess with the funding that the project will be over and he worries that if the project terminates what it will
mean for small modular reactor (SMR) projects in general. Board Member Radford reiterated that he’s
fought really hard for this project and noted that things feel like they are moving forward now that the
National Regulatory Commission (NRC) has approved NuScale’s design certification for a 50 MW power
module. Mr. Coward said he recognizes that the project needs to look more attractive and reiterated that the
PMC knows it’s their job to beat the $89 LCOE and get to an 80% subscription by December or the project
will terminate. Mr. Kotek assured the Board that Representative Simpson has been supportive of the project
for many years and that we may have some sway with Representative Fleischmann who is the Chairman of
the U.S. House of Appropriations Committee to hold up their end of the deal.
Mayor Casper asked for a wrap-up and for any direction to staff. Board Member Freeman said by what he’d
heard today that IFP’s risk is $2.6 million to stay in another year and said he thinks that is affordable and
Mr. Coward cautioned that the number is not a real number because it’s based on no further subscriptions
and reiterated that the project will be over if no one else joins. Board Member Francis asked why there
hasn’t been a full-scale model done and Mr. Coward said that everyone in the country is in the same situation
as IFP and a first-of-kind build. Board Member Radford said he is not worried about the technology but the
costs of first-of-kind construction and risk to build. Board Members Radford and Ziel-Dingman would like
to hear from more GM Prairie. Board Member Burtenshaw says she disagrees with the cost of staying in as
there is no clear road to construction in her mind. Board Members Freeman and Hally said they would like
to stay in and see how the numbers look in the fall. Board Member Francis would like everyone to put
together recitals for staying and exiting the project and get them to GM Prairie. GM Prairie said he thought
that would be a good exercise for everyone. Mayor Casper suggested running a Council memo with the two
resolutions and if it wasn’t ready for a vote Feb. 9, then the item could be pulled and additional CFPP
meetings would be scheduled. GM Prairie said he’d build and share financial models for the Board to play
with. Mr. Fife gave direction to list the topic with an action item on the City Council agenda, band noted
that a specific resolution was not necessary. AGM Boorman cautioned the Board to be thoughtful as this is
a big decision.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 10:05 a.m.
February 1, 2023
s/ Linda Lundquist s/ Rebecca L. Noah Casper
Linda Lundquist, BOARD SECRETARY Rebecca L. Noah Casper, MAYOR
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