Planning Commission
Regular MeetingIdaho Falls, ID · March 17, 2015
Minutes
March 17, 2015 7:00 p.m. Planning Department
Council Chambers
MEMBERS PRESENT: Commissioners George Morrison, James Wyatt, Natalie Black,
Joanne Denney, and Darren Josephson.
MEMBERS ABSENT: Margaret Wimborne, Donna Cosgrove, Brent Dixon .
ALSO PRESENT: Planning Director Brad Cramer, Assistant Planning Director Kerry Beutler,
and interested citizens.
CALL TO ORDER: Chair Morrison called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. and reviewed the
public hearing process.
Minutes: Wyatt asked to have the minutes amended on page 3, indicating that Mr. Jackson was
representing county properties. Wyatt moved to approve the minutes of March 3, 2015 as
amended. Josephson seconded the motion and it passed unanimously.
Public Hearings:
1. Preliminary Plat: Heritage Hills.
Beutler presented the staff report, a part of the record. Josephson asked about the gravel access
road to the south. Beutler explained it needs to be maintained for fire access, including being
plowed for snow. Once the new public road, shown on the plat, is paved the access road can be
removed. Black asked if a traffic study will be required. Beutler said there would not be a
traffic study. A traffic study was not done with the initial master plan because the developer had
agreed to install turn lanes on East River Road. He also stated that there was no explanation for
why the turn lanes approved as part of Division 1 were not constructed. She asked if the City
will widen East River Road to include bike paths. Beutler said the current plan is just for the
turn lanes. Once all of the right-of-way is acquired the road will be upgraded in the future.
Beutler explained that the developer, at the request of the City, as identified the residential
collectors within the development. In response to a question from Black, he also explained that
the developer will be responsible for the proposed park. The park will not be dedicated to the
City, but will be a private facility. Josephson asked if there was an existing HOA and if they
would be responsible for the maintenance of the park. Beutler responded that his understanding
is that there is an HOA associated with the development and that they will be responsible for the
park and the landscape lots.
Morrison opened the hearing.
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Applicant: Kurt Roland, Eagle Rock Engineering, 1331 Fremont Avenue. Roland represents
the applicant. The developer is aware they will need to install the turn lanes. He confirmed there
will be an HOA and they will be responsible for the park, the landscape lots, and maintenance of
the emergency access lane. Black asked for clarification on when the emergency access road
will be removed. Roland indicated that it would be removed at the time the new public road is
constructed into the subdivision and that the easement will become part of the new lots.
Michael Smith, 3897 Stein Creek Circle. He is not necessarily for or against. He is concerned
about the lack of walkways adjacent to a busy street. He is concerned about the safety of the
school children. The school bus stops on East River Road. He also is concerned that the HOA
was not previously aware of the responsibility of maintaining the park and landscaping. Denney
questioned if the School District wouldn’t move the bus stop into the subdivision as more homes
are built. Smith is still concerned about kids walking on East River Road.
Greg Bazik, 3760 Tradition Circle. Appreciates the recommendation for the turn lanes, but
requested that they be installed before any more homes are built. He is concerned that the
emergency access road has not been maintained. He has addressed the bus stop issue with the
school board. They will not move the bus stop until the next access road is built to create a loop.
He is also concerned that the park is too close to East River Road.
Kurt Roland, Eagle Rock Engineering, 1331 Fremont Avenue. He clarified the park lot is not
a typical park. It will be more of a landscaped lot and provide an entrance feature into the
subdivision and possibly include a monument sign. He stated that the overall master plan
provides for a park for the subdivision in the far southwest corner. Wyatt asked if the same
developer was doing future divisions. Roland stated that Rockwell Homes was part of the
original development of Division 1. Liberty Homes, which was formerly a part of Rockwell, is
now the developer of the property. Josephson asked how long the turn lanes will be. Roland
said it will be 300-350 feet long as a center turn lane. He recommended the bus enter the
subdivision and utilize the temporary turn around.
Morrison closed the public hearing.
Black asked when the appropriate time would be to require the installation of the turn-lanes.
Beutler said they could make it part of the motion and then when the next final plat comes
forward it will be part of the development agreement. Wyatt asked how it would be enforced
this time. Beutler said building permits can be held until the improvements are constructed and
there will need to be coordination with Public Works.
Black wants to make sure the turn lanes are constructed. She feels the park is not as big of a
concern if it is more of an entryway to the subdivision and because there will be a larger park in
the future. Wyatt said he would like to include language about removing the access road when
Division 3 is constructed. Black moved to approve the preliminary plat for Heritage Hills
with the following conditions:
1. Adjust Lot 1, Block 6 to meet the 10% larger corner lot size.
2. Left and right hand turning lanes be constructed on East River Road at
Independence Drive prior to building permits being issued for Division 2.
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3. The emergency gravel access road removed once Teasedale Way is constructed.
4. Note be placed on the plat and subsequent final plats regarding the proximity to the
Idaho Falls Regional Airport noise impact area.
Wyatt seconded the motion. Motion passed 4-0
Wyatt moved to approve the Reasoned Statement of Relevant Criteria and Standards with
an amendment to condition #2 that the turn lanes be constructed prior to issuance of
building permits and the added condition that the gravel road be removed with the
completion of Tisdale Way. Second by Black. Motion passed 4-0.
2. Preliminary Plat: Avalon.
Morrison explained that the Commission has received 20 letters regarding this application. He
formally included them in as part of the record. He then summarized similar points of concern
throughout the letters that were received. Some of those points included smaller lot and home
sizes, the impact on property values, access to existing subdivisions, additional traffic and safety
concerns, non-matching street sections between City and County streets, requiring similar
covenants and the requirement that the development provide mitigation to these concerns.
Morrison asked for a show of hands of those who agreed with those summarized points. Cramer
indicated that Morrison, as chair of the Commission, had submitted several questions regarding
the letters that were received to staff in advance of the meeting. Those questions and answers
were shared with all members of the Commission. Cramer summarized those questions and
answers for the Commission and audience.
Cramer presented the staff report, a part of the record. He clarified that there were two reports
that have been sent to the Commission and that they should refer to the revised staff report for
the staff portion and recommendations. Previous public hearings have been held regarding a
final plat within a portion of this preliminary plat area. The City Council denied that final plat
because they determined it was not in compliance with the approved preliminary plat. The
developer has now made application for a modified preliminary plat. It is not unusual for a
preliminary plat to be modified in this manner. Cramer showed a slide that showed three
different preliminary plats that have been considered for this same area. The previous
preliminary plats are not guiding documents and do not have bearing on the new application.
They can be referred to, but there is no requirement that a new plat follow or reference the
previous plats. The guiding documents for a preliminary plat include the City’s Comprehensive
Plan, State law and local laws and ordinances, including the subdivision and zoning ordinances.
Cramer indicated that a preliminary plat is a planning document. Idaho Statute does not require
a preliminary plat process, but it is a “best practice”. Preliminary plats are not a regulatory
document. Cramer referred to legal cases from the Idaho Supreme Court. He then presented that
remainder of the staff report including the presentation slides. Cramer discussed current
subdivision in the area that have bollards preventing through traffic between the subdivisions.
He indicated that the City and County officials have met and agree that the bollards should be
removed and have committed to a plan to connect the road segments. Cramer reviewed the
proposed density for the subdivision. The subdivision meets the minimum density requirements.
The applicant has made all the requested changes by staff and meets the City’s Subdivision
Ordinance. Black asked Cramer to repeat the density numbers for the subdivision. Cramer
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clarified those numbers for the proposed preliminary plat. Morrison asked staff to review the
questions submitted by the Commission and provide the answers. Cramer reviewed the Planning
Commission's questions and provided staff's response. Black asked why there are several roads
that are straight and the roads area not being designed to have more curves. Cramer indicated
that the City does have specific standards that require a standard road pattern. There are
standards regarding the length of dead end streets. She also asked about parks within the
subdivision. Blacked asked for an explanation of what “estate” means within the Comprehensive
Plan. Cramer indicated that this largely refers to larger existing lots within the county.
Morrison opened the public hearing.
Kurt Roland, Eagle Rock Engineering, 1331 Fremont Ave. Roland represents the applicant.
He indicated that the proposed lot sizes within the development are more than double the
minimum lot size required by the R-1 zone. The development exceeds many of the minimum
standards for development. The applicant has worked with staff to meet all the requirements of
the City. Black asked about the average lot sizes in surrounding developments. Roland
indicated that he wasn’t familiar with specific numbers of the other developments. Black also
asked if there would be a HOA within the development.
Greg Hansen, Rockwell Development, 5699 Vail Drive, Ammon ID. Hansen indicated that
all of their subdivisions have HOA's. They did their due diligence on the property prior to
purchase and found nothing recorded against the property. They chose to redo the preliminary
plat in part based on recommendations from staff. They invited residents to their Green Valley
Subdivision to show them what they want to build in Avalon. There has been some obvious
frustration with promises that were made from the previous developer. Rockwell purchased the
property with their own plans, not the plans of the previous developer. The existing R-1 zoning
was important to them because it establishes some development rights and protects their
investments in the property. Their subdivision meets or exceeds all of the requirements of the
subdivision and zoning ordinances and the comprehensive plans. They plan on building a
variety of housing types in this development. He has read all of the letters from neighbors and
spoken with some on the phone. Rockwell is an experienced home builder in the area. Hansen
showed several awards that they have received for their homes over the years. Hansen submitted
two letters to the Commission. He indicated that Rockwell's has a range of products and price
points and they have not seen any effect on property values in the neighborhoods near their
subdivision. He is unaware of any requirement within City Ordinance that refers to prohibiting
the approval of any subdivision because of concerns relating to property values. Rockwell has
not made any promises or agreed to promises from the previous developer. Rockwell has met all
of the minimum requirements of the City Ordinance for this development. Black asked about the
turn lanes from the previous subdivision that was heard tonight. It was stated that Rockwell was
the developer. Hansen indicated that to his knowledge they complied with everything that the
City had required of them for that development. He stated that he was not part of that
development so he doesn’t know the specifics to that situation, but that they always comply with
the requirements of the municipalities that they build in.
Alan Kelch, 7466 South 15th West, Idaho Falls. Mr. Kelch owns property to the west of the
proposed development. He thinks that the Commission should take consideration of the land
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uses along York Road. Commercial along York Road is an appropriate use of the land because
of the power lines. He has had difficulty in farming the property there because of the height and
size of the power lines. He thinks the road patterns are appropriate for the existing layout of the
property.
Tracy Tremelling, 462 Sunterra. Tremelling spoke with the previous developer (Mike Hicks)
when the property was sold, earlier this year, and he told him that nothing would change with the
preliminary plat. When the plats came forward previously this year he noted several differences.
He is referring specifically to the portion east of the Sunterra development. He noted that the
1/3rd acre lots were shrunk down to 1/4th acre lots. Several people in this area purchased their
homes based on the previous preliminary plat. Tremelling went over statistics related to home
values and lot sizes in nearby developments. He showed slides of existing homes within
Sunterra. He then showed pictures of Rockwell homes and indicated that they would like to
avoid this type of home construction. He stated that this area is not for this type of home
development. They would like to let the development continue to proceed as it was originally
proposed. Traffic along Holmes should be reviewed with the completion of these subdivisions.
Water and sewer have been run through what was to be Sunterra Division 3 and the plat has been
acted upon. Josephson asked about phase one and two of Sunterra and why Tremelling thought
the developer did not continue with the development. Tremelling indicated that he did not know
why they didn’t continue because homes are being built within the current phases now.
Clair Fitch, County Resident. Mr. Fitch lives about a quarter mile from the development. He
referred to State Statute 67-6508 under property rights which requires an analysis regarding
property values. His main concern is the commercial property. It does not currently show on the
comprehensive plan. The comprehensive plan recommends a buffer zone between commercial
and residential and he is not seeing that.
Bill Asen, 355 Hallmark Drive. He continues to hear the word minimum being used. When
they bought their home it was represented that they were buying a nice county property. Now
they will have four neighbors and park. There are two issues, a county subdivision loosing value
and traffic. Hallmark and View Drive do not need to be used by the subdivision. He questioned
the need for the subdivision within the City.
Martin Woodbury, 378 Hallmark Drive. They purchased their home in Hallmark Estates
because of the larger homes on larger lots and the aesthetics of the area. They were led to
believe that the developments in this area of town would be of the same quality. Woodbury is
concerned about the effect on property values in the area, higher taxes, and the proposed
commercial development on the southern end. He would like to see the use of this property
defined now. Lots adjacent to Hallmark Estates and Sunterra should be a minimum of 1/2 acre
lots. He would like to see the minimum square footages and elevations of the homes be set out
now. He stated that we should not abandon what was previously planned 20 years ago that far
exceeded the minimums and approve a substandard development in a prestigious area of the
county.
Carl Stoots, 336 Yucatan. He would like to see consistency in the area. He doesn't think the
proposed subdivision provides for consistency.
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Jim Johnson, 398 Hallmark Drive. Johnson does believe that the development will have a
negative effect on their property values.
Randy Williams, 5391 Villa Mirage. Just because the previous plat was not recorded doesn't
mean it shouldn't be considered.
Drew Facer, 168 Stone. Searched on the internet and found an article that indicates that home
values are affected by a smaller home being built next to a larger home.
Joseph Moore, 6020 View Drive. Is concerned about safety and traffic by connecting the roads.
The bus stop is on this road and there are no sidewalks along View and Hallmark.
Jim Johnson, 398 Hallmark Drive. Wanted to clarify that Rockwell mention that they have
built in subdivisions with $150,000 homes and $700,000 homes, but that is now what is being
proposed here.
Dale Herley, 347 Yucatan Way. Has purchased several homes in the California area and
knows that the surrounding homes due have an effect on property values. He took a lot of time
looking for a home and expected the covenants from the previous phases would be continued.
Kurt Thompson, 2635 Channing Way. Thompson is an attorney representing Rockwell.
Thompson stated that this body is to act according to the law. The law includes the zoning and
subdivision ordinance. The Planning Commission's job is determine if the subdivision will
comply with the law. If the subdivision complies with the law then the Commission should
approve the preliminary plat. There have been no statements tonight that demonstrate that the
subdivision does not comply with the ordinances. Thompson read from state statute regarding
land use planning. He then read from the City's comprehensive plan. The proposed
development exceeds all of the minimum requirements of the R-1 Zone. Preliminary plats can
be changed. The Sunterra preliminary plat was abandoned by the previous developer. Rockwell
purchased raw, unencumbered ground. They now have a right to develop according to the
existing ordinances. There have been several comments about the type of housing to be
constructed. There is nothing in the zoning ordinance that regulates the type of house that is
built. Josephson asked if there has been any discussions with home owners regarding a possible
compromise. Thompson said that Rockwell did invite the neighbors to come out and look at
some current projects and meet with them, but he is not aware of any mediated discussion or
resolutions. There is no legal requirement to meet with the neighbors.
Melissa Williams, 5391 Villa Mirage Ct. Williams wanted to clarify that they have tried to
visit with Rockwell for a compromise, but has not had any returned calls.
Clair Fitch, 878 E. Countryside Lane. Wants to clarify that the commercial lot is not shown
on the comprehensive plan so the commercial lot should not be shown on the plat. There is also
no buffer shown as is discussed in the plan.
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Bill Asen, 355 Hallmark. Has received no invitations from Rockwell. They would like to see
larger homes, larger lots and buffer adjacent to their homes as a compromise from the developer.
Tracy Tremelling, 462 Sunterra. In previous meetings Rockwell made it clear that they had no
requirement to honor the previous covenants or promises from previous developers.
Greg Hansen, Rockwell Development group. He has responded to all phone calls that they
have received. They have tried to reach out to the residents, but the list that they had was for
those in the Sunterra development. Also stated that not everyone can afford a larger home and
lot. There should be a diversity in housing types. Black asked about the price range for the
development. Hansen indicated that it would be in the $160,000 to $250,000.
Morrison closed the public hearing.
Black asked staff regarding the average lot sizes in surrounding development. Cramer reviewed
a list of average lot sizes in neighboring developments. Black indicated that her understanding
of the Comprehensive Plan was that this area would have larger lots and larger homes. There are
not very many areas where you can have the “estate” mention in the plan. Cramer showed the
estate zone on the comprehensive plan and clarified that the “estate” designation as mentioned in
the plan specifically covers existing county development. The remainder of the area, not
developed is shown as lower density residential. Cramer further clarified that the “estate”
designation is not on the property within the plat. Black discussed trying to be consistent from
division to division in an area. She feels that it is part of our planning to help protect that
consistency and the expressed standards.
Morrison discussed the options that the Planning Commission has to either approve, approve
with conditions or deny.
Josephson asked about the ability to require a landscape buffer between the developments.
Denney questioned how a buffer might look and what size the lots would end up being. The
Commission asked to clarify what is meant by the buffer in the Comprehensive Plan. Cramer
stated that he is not sure which standard in the Plan is being referred to. He then stated that he is
aware that the comprehensive plan refers to buffers in land uses or zones or adjacent to arterial
streets. He also clarified that certain zones will require a buffer. Wyatt asked staff about the
proposed commercial zone. Cramer clarified that the RSC-1 Zone does require additional review
and public meetings from a traditional commercial zone. Denney questioned if that could be
changed later. Cramer clarified that the zoning would take place at the time of annexation.
Wyatt move to approve the preliminary plat with conditions listed in the staff report.
Denney seconded the motion. The motion failed by a vote of 0-4.
Wyatt moved to deny the preliminary plat for the Avalon subdivision because it is not
consistent with the essence of other subdivisions in the area and the standards to which
they were built. The motion was seconded by Josephson. Wyatt, yes, Denney, yes,
Josephson, Yes, Black, yes. Motion passed 4-0.
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The Commission then discussed the Reasoned Statement of Relevant Criteria. Wyatt
stated that his decision is based on the essence of the law and what should be done from a
planning perspective not the letter of the law. Black stated that the proposed plat is not
consistent with the standards of previous divisions.
Black moved to approve the Reason Statement of Relevant Criteria for the denial of the
preliminary plat as written with the addition that it is not consistent with standards of the
previous divisions and the standards approved for those subdivisions. The motion was
seconded by Denney Motion passed 4-0.
Meeting adjourned 10:30p.m.
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