City Council
Regular MeetingJacksonville, AR · August 16, 2018
Minutes
CITY OF JACKSONVILLE
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
AUGUST 16, 2018
7:00 P.M. – 7:46 P.M.
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - CITY HALL - #1 MUNICIPAL DRIVE
The City Council of the City of Jacksonville, Arkansas met in regular session
on August 16, 2018 at the regular meeting place of the City Council.
Councilman Bishop delivered the invocation and Mayor Fletcher led a standing
audience in the “Pledge of Allegiance” to the flag.
ROLL CALL: City Councilman: Elliott, Bolden, Sansing, Traylor, Twitty, Smith,
and Collins answered ROLL CALL. Mayor Fletcher also answered ROLL CALL declaring
a quorum. PRESENT SEVEN (7) ABSENT (3).
Others present for the meeting were: City Attorney Robert Bamburg, Finance
Director Cheryl Erkel, Public Works Director Jim Oakley, IT Director Scott
Rothlisberger, Fire Chief Alan Laughy, Police Chief John Franklin, Parks and
Recreation Director Kevin House, Human Resource Director Jill Ross, Program
and Economic Development Director Robert Price, Planning Commissioner Patrick
Thomas, Addie Gibson, Lida Feller, Rick Kron, Johnny Simpson, Glenda
Fletcher, Bob Johnson, interested citizens, and members of the press.
PRESENTATION OF MINUTES:
Mayor Fletcher presented the minutes of the regular City Council meeting of
July 19, 2018 for approval and/or correction at the next regularly scheduled
City Council meeting.
APPROVAL AND/OR CORRECTION OF MINUTES:
Councilman Bolden moved, seconded by Councilman Twitty that the minutes of
the regularly scheduled City Council meeting of 21 June 2018 be APPROVED.
MOTION CARRIED.
CONSENT AGENDA: REGULAR MONTHLY REPORT/POLICE DEPARTMENT
Councilman Bolden moved, seconded by Councilman Sansing to approve the
regular monthly report for July 2018 regarding annual crime statistical
comparisons
REGULAR MONTHLY REPORT/FIRE DEPARTMENT
Councilman Bolden moved, seconded by Councilman Sansing to approve the regular
monthly report for July 2018 from the Jacksonville Fire Department, reflecting a
fire loss of $44,500.00 and a savings total of $980,500.00.
REGULAR MONTHLY REPORT/ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT
Councilman Bolden moved, seconded by Councilman Sansing to approve the
regular monthly report for July 2018.
PERMITS/LICENSE ISSUED INSPECTIONS PERFORMED
Building Permits 13 Building Inspections 19
Business Licenses 11 Electrical 29
Plumbing 27
HVACR 15
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REGULAR MONTH REPORT/ANIMAL CONTROL
Councilman Bolden moved, seconded by Councilman Sansing to approve the
regular monthly report for July 2018.
ADOPTION FEES/FINES $1,050.00
CONTRIBUTIONS 0.00
TOTALS $1,050.00
Councilman Collins questioned Police Chief Franklin if the Police Department
had lost any capabilities with the firing range behind the Animal Control
Department being shut down when the gun noise became an issue.
Chief Franklin replied that they did not, he pointed out that they have the
new range behind the Police Department, explaining that they are about to
begin some additional construction on that range. He related that the Police
Department had received a grant for $25,000.00 from the FBI and are going to
construct a “house mockup” that can be used with the Officers and SWAT teams.
He then added that it would be used for other agencies as well as the
Jacksonville Police Department, a lot of other agencies come to Jacksonville
to use our facilities. He went on to say that we loan our facilities to the
FBI and other agencies that do not have much of their own. He then explained
that they managed to move Sherwood’s people over to the range behind the
Police Department for the following day. He added that they are still in
discussions about that. He stated that he would suspect that they are going
to have to eventually phase out the range behind the Animal Control
Department.
Councilman Collins questioned if the Police Department would be losing any
capabilities for Jacksonville’s officers by phasing that range out.
Chief Franklin stated that he did not believe any capabilities would be lost,
adding that he thinks they can make it work with the range they have. He
stated that most departments do not even have two ranges, adding that they
have a very nice outside range and they will be adding to it. He continued
saying that would be okay. He then answered that their weapon systems are
covered.
Councilman Traylor requested that the monthly report be shortened to
comparables between the current month and the same month last year.
In response to a question from Councilman Bolden, Chief Franklin clarified
that they have received a $25,000.00 grant from the FBI to modernize the
range behind the Police Department. He stated that they are constructing the
previously mention mockup, explaining that they have purchased the lumber.
He stated that this will offer a more realistic training for when they may
have to assault a house dealing with a hostage barricade terrorist situation,
which happens all over America, even in small cities. He noted that it is to
the FBI’s advantage to contribute to the improvements, because they use the
range for training.
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At this time MOTION CARRIED. ROLL CALL: Councilmen: Elliott, Bolden,
Sansing, Traylor, Twitty, Smith, and Collins voted AYE. MOTION CARRIED.
WATER DEPARTMENT:
WASTEWATER DEPARTMENTS:
FIRE DEPARTMENT:
POLICE DEPARTMENT:
STREET DEPARTMENT: Request to accept bid North First Sidewalks
Public Works Director Jim Oakley related that they received a grant for
sidewalk construction on North First Street, starting at Dale Drive and going
south to the Pulaski County Health Department. He noted that the grant will
pay 80% of the projected construction costs. He stated that he is
recommending the low bid from Barger Excavating in the amount of $95,216.00
with funds to be drawn from the Street Fund. He noted that Barger Excavating
has been used by the City in the past and they have done great work.
Councilman Traylor moved, seconded by Councilman Twitty to accept the low bid
from Barger Excavating, Inc. in the amount of $95,216.00. MOTION CARRIED.
SANITATION DEPARTMENT:
PARKS & RECREATION:
PLANNING COMMISSION:
GENERAL: a. RESOLUTION 772 (#09-2018)
A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING APPROPRIATE LEGISLATION TO ENCOURAGE PROPER ASSEMENT
AND COLLECTION OF SALES TAX FROM ALL INTERNET/ONLINE SALES TO CREATE A FAIR
AND FREE MARKET FOR ALL BUSINESSES AND CONSUMERS IN LIGHT OF THE U.S. SUPREME
COURT DECISION IN SOUTH DAKOTA V. WAYFAIR, INC., ET. AL.; AND, FOR OTHER
PURPOSES.
Councilman Bolden moved, seconded by Councilman Elliott to read Resolution
772 (#09-2018).
City Attorney Bamburg explained that the case of South Dakota V. Wayfair has
been pending for a number of years, clarifying that Wayfair is an online
retailer. He noted that several states have legislation similar to what has
been presented in Arkansas as well, to tax online Internet sales. He related
that there had been some prohibitions and concerns because of that; but South
Dakota’s legislation, which is very similar to what has been presented for
passage in Arkansas’ legislature, was successful in withstanding a challenge
by Wayfair. He related that a number of states are getting in line with what
needs to be done in order for not only states to tax but also counties and
cities too, to implement sales tax for the online sales. He related that
Resolution 772 is to encourage the Arkansas Legislature and the Governor to
pursue some type of either special session or support to get that bill back
before the Legislature in order for it to be addressed in Arkansas.
Councilman Sansing stated that while he has reservations he does understand
the need; so he does support the Resolution.
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Mayor Fletcher related that this has been called “fair market legislation” in
Congress, adding that it does level the playing field. He stated that without
this legislation it is a small business killer. He stated that a law was
passed in 1948 but how we do retail has changed. He stated that the “mom and
pop” stores are struggling to compete with Internet sales, adding that it is
even affecting the big box stores. He stated that brick and mortar stores
are what give people the jobs. He posed what is more important – saving a
few dollars on tax or providing community jobs and small business owners’
livelihood. He pointed out that other states will follow this example and he
hopes the Municipal League will become more involved. He explained that it
is important that this Resolution be passed now because it would offer two
opportunities for this to be addressed by the legislation, noting that
following the November Election there will be new legislation members. He
related that this passed in the Senate and was very close in the House.
Councilman Bolden stated this is important because of the affect on brick and
mortar stores and it would level the field of sales, as well as bringing
income into the City for online sales.
In response to a question from Councilman Traylor, City Attorney Bamburg
stated that there is a minimum level of gross sales volume before the online
tax kicks in. He related that under the scale that is currently proposed by
both the Arkansas Legislature as well as what was before in South Dakota that
would not have activated any type of action. He then concurred that the
activating amount is $100,000.00.
Councilman Collins stated that one of the additional second order effects is
that we have people that are running taxi services in Jacksonville that under
our Code 5.20 that have to pay taxes overhead for doing a business that an
entity like Uber or Lyft does not pay. He continued saying that it would
probably cost the City more to chase those businesses than what the City
could collect. He stated that it is still considered an Internet business
and the City needs to consider the City Codes that keep our businesses from
having a level playing field.
Chief Franklin noted that there are B&Bs operating in Jacksonville, and City
Attorney Bamburg stated they would fall under the Hotel/Motel taxes as well
as the sales tax.
State Representative Bob Johnson related that he is on the State task force
and they are working on this currently. He explained that last session this
passed in the Senate but failed in the House by 8 votes. He added that
several of the Representatives had stated that if the Wayfair case was
settled they would have voted for the bill. He stated that local businesses
have an unfair competition, adding that all the states are considering this.
He explained they are pushing the Governor for a special session to get this
done, saying this is not a new tax, it is already on the books. He then
clarified that services such as Uber or any taxi service do not have sales
tax. He reiterated that this is not a new tax, this tax is supposed to
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be paid for online purchases. He stated that in 1948 there was not an
Internet but now it’s big retail and it is hurting our local businesses if we
do not pass this legislation. He related his support for Resolution 772,
noting that he would be meeting with the Lieutenant Governor to persuade the
Governor to hold a special session.
It was clarified that municipalities charge a privilege tax for local taxi
services but there is not a sales tax associated with that service.
Councilman Bolden stated that it has been brought to his attention that some
of the military personnel on Base want to be Uber drivers as a part time job.
City Attorney Bamburg stated that an Uber driver would be required to meet
the same standards as the taxi services, adding that there are none that have
gone through the full application process within the City. He then noted
that they would have to satisfy State law as well as City Code in order to be
able to provide that service.
Councilman Elliott reminded everyone it is local businesses that sponsor City
events and local ball teams, and they need to be offered a level field for
competing with online businesses that do not support local events or the
Police Department, Fire Department, or any other local endeavor.
Mayor Fletcher noted that approximately 65% of the City budget is sales tax
and physical stores also pay property tax which goes to support our schools.
Patrick Thomas, a local businessman related that his business is a 100%
online Internet sales. He stated that he is against this proposition, saying
that the first time this came up on a national level it was called the “Main
Street Fairness Act”. He related that this is not true. He cited the
difference between brick and mortar stores and his business, brick and mortar
have a showcase; adding that he will admit that some online shoppers go to
the brick and mortar stores to examine the physical object they are
interested in purchasing, then they purchase online. He stated that he does
not feel it is his fault that he operates his business more efficiently than
Wal-Mart, adding that in theory his business, as an electronic business, his
business has an infinite capacity to sell. He continued saying that Wal-Mart
also has the ability to do that, they have a brick and mortar store and
distribution centers which are finite compartments; Wal-Mart is stuck in the
model of selling in a finite world. He stated that for the businesses that
have discovered a way to sell infinitely through various warehouses across
the Country, it is not our fault that we have become more efficient. He
acknowledged that the State of Arkansas already has a process in place,
adding that he has studied it and formed CU-1 which is in the tax book. He
stated that it is there to be turned in on an annual basis, noting that we
already have in place for the State of Arkansas a mechanism to receive those
taxes. He related that he submitted from CU-1 once and the State didn’t know
what to do with it, elaborating that he made a $150.00 tax payment using CU-1
to the DF&A and they told him we are not here to collect sales tax. He
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related that with the mechanism in place, it is not his fault that he is
operating more efficiently than a brick and mortar store. He continued
saying that as far as the fairness part of it, he has people paying shipping
and handling fees that far exceeds the sales tax that they are being accused
of wanting to evade. He stated that it is not sales tax that they are trying
to evade, he stated that we need to educate the citizens of Arkansas to do
the right thing and we need to get the mechanism into the real world of
receiving taxes collected. He related that when he tried to pay those taxes,
he was told that he would have to mail the check to Little Rock. He added
that there is more to be said about Fire trucks and Whit Davis delivering
lumber to Hot Springs, Arkansas regarding point of delivery and point of
sale. He pointed out that point of delivery would get the sales tax instead
of Jacksonville. He stated that any work legislatively should be to simplify
the process that he as a business owner would have to go through, adding that
he does not want to get into the conversation regarding zip codes and who
would get the services for the 2% he as a business owner would be required to
collect. He noted the numerous counties nationwide that would be involved if
all states elect to do this, explaining that as a small business operator,
working efficiently, he is making a profit. He then added that if the brick
and mortar cannot have their tangible products online to sell like he does,
it is not his fault. He stated that if he is told by 50 States that he has
to collect sales tax for 3,006 counties, he will have to close his business
because he cannot hire the data collector to key stroke pennies that will go
to the various counties. He then mentioned that it would cost the State of
Arkansas $50.00 to send that check for a penny to that county, noting the
domino effect of all this work that will have to be done. He stated that the
easy way to do this is to rethink our approach and tell the legislators to
bring point of sale back to where the sale originated. He stated that the
work load for data collection and remission would be reduced tremendously. He
stated that this will destroy small business.
Councilman Elliott stated that just because a business is operating more
efficiently it should not keep them from paying sales tax.
Mr. Thomas stated that he is not advocating that they do not pay sales tax.
Mayor Fletcher stated that this is not going to be a debate. He offered the
floor to anyone else wanting to speak, with no one else offering to speak he
called for a vote.
ROLL CALL: Councilman Elliott, Bolden, Sansing, Traylor, Twitty, and Smith
voted AYE. Councilman Collins voted NAY. MOTION CARRIED. Whereupon City
Attorney Bamburg read the heading of Resolution 772.
Councilman Bolden moved, seconded by Councilman Traylor to approve Resolution
772 (#09-2018) in its entirety. ROLL CALL: Councilman Elliott, Bolden,
Sansing, Traylor, Twitty, and Smith voted AYE. Councilman Collins voted NAY.
MOTION CARRIED.
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b. RESOLUTION 773 (#10-2018)
A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE ENROLLMENT AND PARTICIPATION
IN THE CLASS ACTION LITIGATION PINE BLUFF ADVERTISING & PROMOTIONS COMMISSION
ET. AL. V. HOTEL.COM, L.P., ET. AL., JEFFERSON COUNTY CIRCUIT COURT NO.
CV2009-946-5, TO PURSUE APPROPRIATE DAMAGES FROM DEFENDANTS FOR IMPROPER
ASSEMENT AND COLLECTION OF SALES/HOTEL/MOTEL TAXES FROM ALL Internet/ONLINE
BOOKINGS AT LOCAL HOTELS/MOTELS; AND, FOR OTHER PURPOSES.
Councilman Collins moved, seconded by Councilman Bolden to read Resolution
773 (#10-2018).
City Attorney Bamburg related that approximately seven or eight years ago,
Pine Bluff Advertising and Promotion Commission started an action against the
online retailers who book hotels etc. regarding their failure to pay the
proper amount of Hotel/Motel taxes as opposed to the gross amounts that they
should be paying on, many of those entities are only paying on the net
including whatever discounts available, adding that there is a long formula
in that circumstance. He stated that the action has gone through the Circuit
Court in Jefferson County and it is now at the Supreme Court, adding that
there have been a number of both municipalities and A&P Commissions that have
joined in as part of the class. He stated that it does not costs Jacksonville
to join in, the class has been certified, the fees will be paid to the
attorneys out of the class collection so we do not have to write a check for
whatever the attorneys fees or costs may be. He added that he feels it would
be a positive for Jacksonville to participate because it would allow us to
join in for the number of years that this goes back and the amounts that
these entities have booked in order to pay us. He stated that in order to
authorize the Mayor to sign off on a letter agreement with counsel that is
part of this action; the City Council will need to pass this Resolution.
ROLL CALL: Councilman Elliott, Bolden, Sansing, Traylor, Twitty, Smith and
Collins voted AYE. MOTION CARRIED. Whereupon City Attorney Bamburg read the
heading of Resolution 773.
Councilman Bolden moved, seconded by Councilman Collins to approve Resolution
773 (#10-2018) in its entirety.
Councilman Traylor confirmed with City Attorney Bamburg that if the appeal is
not successful there would be no costs to the City of Jacksonville. City
Attorney Bamburg added that it is only if the class is successful.
ROLL CALL: Councilman Elliott, Bolden, Sansing, Traylor, Twitty, Smith and
Collins voted AYE. MOTION CARRIED.
c. RESOLUTION 774 (#11-2018)
A RESOLUTION EXPRESSING APPRECIATION FOR CANINE OFFICER ACE UPON HIS
RETIREMENT; IN SUPPORT OF TRANSFERRING OWNERSHIP AND RESPONSIBILITY OF CANINE
OFFICER ACE TO HIS HANDLER, OFFICER JOHNNY HICKS; AND, FOR OTHER PURPOSES.
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Chief Franklin stated that Officer Hicks has served the citizens of
Jacksonville for eight years and has decided to move to another agency and we
wish him well. He related that Officer Hicks has made a lot of inroads into
community policing, he and Ace are well liked and respected. He explained
the desire to retire Ace at a fair price. He related that Ace was purchased
for $3,500 and he is being purchased by Officer Hicks for $1,500. He
explained that Ace was 4 years old when he began his service for the
Jacksonville Police Department and has worked in service for 4 years,
estimating that his service years might be until he is 14, adding he is not
certain of that time. He thanked Officer Hicks for his service to the
Jacksonville Police Department.
Councilman Bolden moved, seconded by Councilman Collins to read Resolution
774 (#11-2018). ROLL CALL: Councilman Elliott, Bolden, Sansing, Traylor,
Twitty, Smith and Collins voted AYE.
Ace was brought to the City Council Chamber and received a round of applause.
Councilman Bolden offered his appreciation to Officer Hicks and Ace for their
service to the community. He stated that Officer Hicks has a heart of love
and he reached out to a lot of people in the Jacksonville community. He
wished him well in the future.
At this time MOTION CARRIED and City Attorney Bamburg read the heading of
Resolution 744 (#11-2028).
Councilman Bolden moved, seconded by Councilman Smith to approve Resolution
774 (#11-2018) in its entirety. ROLL CALL: Councilman Elliott, Bolden,
Sansing, Traylor, Twitty, Smith and Collins voted AYE. MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Fletcher thanked Officer Hicks for his service, saying that he would be
missed, noting that Office Hicks has brought a lot of positives to community
policing.
APPOINTMENTS:
ANNOUNCMENTS: Parks and Recreation Director Kevin House announced that the
Summer Concert has been moved to the Jacksonville Middle School, noting a 50
to 60% change of rain for Saturday.
Mayor Fletcher announced that the Thunder Over the Rock Air Show at the
Little Rock Air Force Base will be October 27th and 28th will be headlined by
the USAF Thunderbirds. He noted that the event is free to the public and
will host the STEM Fest featuring an interactive science, technology,
engineering, and math activities for all ages. He stated that the event will
draw over 100,000 people each day, making it the largest two day event in
Arkansas.
Councilman Collins announced that the local football team is having a
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He then announced that he would like to form a committee to review the City
Municipal Code regarding 5.20 taxis. Councilman Bolden agreed to sit on the
committee. Press notification was noted.
Mr. T.J. Ashley with Ashley Media asked the City Council to consider revising
the moratorium on bill boards in the City of Jacksonville. He related that he
and his family own property north of town that was recently annexed, relating
that his family business would like to be able to put bill boards on the
property along the freeway. He asked the City Council to consider lifting
the moratorium.
Mayor Fletcher stated that it would put on the City Council agenda for
discussion, allowing the City Council to have time to review documentation.
Councilman Sansing noted that Code Enforcement has experienced some
difficulties regarding the terminology in the Ordinance regarding overgrown
bushy areas and falling fences. He urged that Code Enforcement better
address these issues.
ADJOURNMENT: Without objection, Mayor Fletcher adjourned the meeting at
approximately 7:46 p.m. MOTION CARRIED.
Respectfully,
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Susan L. Davitt MAYOR GARY FLETCHER
City Clerk-Treasurer
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