Environmental Sustainability Commission
Regular MeetingLa Mesa, CA · March 17, 2025
Minutes
La Mesa Environmental Sustainability Commission
Minutes of a Regular Meeting
Date: March 17, 2025, 6:00 p.m.
Location: City Manager's Conference Room, 8130 Allison Avenue
La Mesa, California
Present: Chair Richard Williams
Vice Chair Amanda-Dawn Natalia
Commissioner Michael Bourton
Commissioner Dasmine McFarlin
Commissioner Mary Nooristani
Commissioner Shustek
Commissioner Jack Sellinger
Commissioner Mark Gracyk
Staff: Environmental Analyst Serena Lee
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1. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Ricky Williams called the meeting to order at 6:01 PM.
1.1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
2. ADDITIONS AND/OR DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA
3. PRESENTATION
3.1 GRID ALTERNATIVES SAN DIEGO PRESENTATION
Clovis Honore and Claire Lion from GRID Alternatives presented on clean
energy education focusing on the benefits and challenges of energy
efficiency, solar, battery energy storage systems, and electric vehicles and
going over how these systems work. They gave a background on climate
change in connection to the importance of transitioning to renewable
energy and electrifying. They discussed federal, state, and local programs
available to help residents take actionable steps towards a clean energy
future. They went over GRID programs such as San Diego Clean Cars 4
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All and workforce development that provides free training programs for
Installation Basics Training.
Amanda-Dawn Natalia stated that the presentation was incredible and
asked what the solutions are for overcoming the barriers of roofing in
communities of concerns. Clovis Honore stated that San Diego
Community Power gave GRID Alternatives half a million dollars for roof
projects. The Solar Home Roofing (SHR) was from funding meant for
home upgrading and the TCC was intended for select homes. Claire Lions
stated that sometimes people are able to pay for the roof if they know they
can get the solar from GRID.
Amanda-Dawn Natalia asked if there are any qualifications/requirements
for GRID’s training program. Claire Lion and Clovis Honore responded that
sometimes there are specific requirements for funding but that no one is
ever excluded from the training programs.
Jack asked if GRID has experience with panel shingles and asked if they
build their solar panels in house. Clovis Honore stated that the shingles
are too expensive of a technology at the moment and Claire Lion stated
that they have in house staff for solar panel installation.
Ricky Williams asked what the impacts have been if any from federal
funding and asked what programs they have built to improve
weatherization and efficiency. Claire Lions stated that a lot of GRID’s
funding comes from the state. The Disadvantaged Communities-Single-
Family Solar Homes (DAC-SASH) program comes from the California
Public Utilities Commission. Most of GRID’s EV programs are also state
funded. The Solar For All Program came from the Inflation Reduction Act
and this could be impacted. TCC and SHR are weatherization projects that
GRID does not do in house as of right now. GRID has started to look
toward electrification in broader ways because it pairs really well with solar
and batteries.
Ricky Williams asked about the off-grid solar process on Tribal land and
how it could work in urban areas. Claire Lion stated that funding for the
project came from Tribal Solar Accelerator Fund (TSAF), which is a branch
of GRID. A private donor created a grant making program with specific
opportunities for Tribes to get connected to the grid. Utility funded projects
require participants to be grid tied which makes off-grid projects difficult in
urban areas. Clovis Honore stated that hopefully none of the cost is borne
by the consumer. Claire Lions noted if you are tech savvy and have a
solar and battery system you can be sending energy to the grid at the right
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times to create your own system where you still have a meter and you are
just trying not to pull energy from it.
4. PUBLIC COMMENTS – (TOTAL TIME – 15 MINUTES)
NOTE: In accordance with state law, an item not scheduled on the agenda may
be brought forward by the general public for comment; however, the
Environmental Sustainability Commission will not be able to discuss or take any
action on the item at this meeting. If appropriate, the item will be referred to Staff
or placed on a future agenda.
Public Comment: Wendy Mihalic stated that she really enjoyed the video of the
ESC’s prior meeting. She thanked Jack Sellinger for attending the Home
Electrification Fair in Encinitas. Wendy Mihalic stated that the fair was organized
by the Citizens’ Climate Lobby (CCL), in partnership with the City of Encinitas. It
was a pilot program and the CCL worked with the City to coordinate the venue
and the Building Electrification Coalition for coordination of the event. She stated
she would be happy to be the La Mesa Representative if the City wanted to get
into contact with the coalition. She stated San Diego Community Power is a very
important resource for clean energy related program funding. U.S. Green
Building Council California (USGBC CA) applied for the Community Clean
Energy grant program Power for outreach and education in communities of
concern and La Mesa can utilize them as a resource.
5. CONFLICT DISCLOSURES
6. CURRENT BUSINESS
6.1 DISCUSSION OF THE ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION
INFRASTRUCTURE AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE
Alternative Transportation Infrastructure ad hoc subcommittee expires in
March 2025
Amanda-Dawn Natalia stated the Alternative Transportation Infrastructure
Ad Hoc Subcommittee discussed how CAP implementation can be
ensured within other City projects. She stated that they discussed the
practicality of a checklist for departments’ workflow binders. This would
make it so every project has a checklist that brings attention to
sustainability actions that can be attached/considered. She stated that the
subcommittee discussed Microsoft Teams as a tool for communication and
that they left with the homework item of coming up with what CAP
measures they want to prioritize for infrastructure projects. She stated that
Mary Nooristani is interested in prioritizing traffic calming and that the
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subcommittee supports hybrid telework, and trees on pedestrian pathways
for shade. The subcommittee also brainstormed how they are going to
seek out grants for traffic calming measures. She stated that the
subcommittee wants to know what the commission’s priorities are.
Mary Nooristani stated that Hilary Ego had been able to get involved in an
infrastructure project and add in CAP related objectives. Having a
checklist for other departments to incorporate the CAP into their projects
would be a small but impactful action.
Ricky Williams stated that he likes the workflow binder idea because
departments already follow checklists that they have to comply with and
the CAP could be easily integrated into these projects. He stated he
remembers that Hilary Ego jumped into a large roadway improvement
project and got EV chargers added into the project. He stated that the
Mobility Commission could be a good resource for understanding priority
traffic calming mechanisms.
Amanda-Dawn, Mary Nooristani, and Ricky Williams stated their interest in
roundabouts and discussed the process of implementation and
coordination with the Mobility Commission to understand the process
better. Michael Bourton stated the need to understand the benefits of
roundabouts such as low running costs and environmental benefits.
Barbara Shustek and Serena Lee stated the La Mesa Boulevard
roundabout project as an example with a timeline of 5 years. Ricky
Williams stated that roundabouts open the door for talking about other
initiatives such as bike lanes and moving towards seeing how the Mobility
Commission operates. Serena Lee stated that roundabouts are something
that can be calculated with greenhouse gas reductions. Michael Bourton,
Ricky Williams, and Serena Lee stated that funding for roundabouts would
be part of capital improvement programs.
6.2 DISCUSSION OF THE E-BIKE INCENTIVE PROGRAM AD HOC
SUBCOMMITTEE
E-Bike Incentive Program ad hoc subcommittee expires in March 2025
Ricky Williams stated that Logan Kelly (CivicSpark Fellow) had drafted the
website for the E-Bike Incentive Program and application process. The
tentative launch for the program is the 24th and the application closes
April 14th. The subcommittee discussed the scoring criteria for applicants.
The vouchers would be first come first serve and some of them would be
reserved for low income applicants. Logan Kelly stated that the income
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qualified section is gone and now a portion of vouchers is specifically set
for low income residents. The scoring system is based on replacing car
trips that aren’t for recreational purposes. There will be an all about e-
bikes webinar on March 27th with the San Diego Bicycle Coalition and
Hilary Ego will talk about the E-Bike Incentive program. Vouchers will go
out April 18th and participants will have about a month to use vouchers.
Serena Lee stated that agreements with bike shops are still being worked
through. She stated the first 150 applicants will be prioritized and if the
proportion of low income qualified is not met then they will take from the
next batch of applicants. Mark Gracyk asked how much the incentives
cover and if it will only involve bike shops in La Mesa. Logan Kelly stated
the income qualified applicants will get $1200 and the standard applicants
will get $800. He stated income qualified is for people who are receiving
Calfresh, Fera, Cares, Section 8, or are 50% under the AMI. Serena Lee
stated that the incentive could cover most of if not all of the cost of an e-
bike. She stated that there are not many bike shops in La Mesa and that
they wanted to make sure the e-bikes are UL listed.
Jack Sellinger asked how information about the program is going to be
spread. Ricky Williams stated the subcommittee discussed sharing the
information at city facilities and schools, posting flyers at gyms and
grocery stores. It is also open to people that work in La Mesa so it is
important to reach establishments that have a lot of employees. Jack
Sellinger, Barbara Shustek, and Ricky Williams stated other community
locations to spread information such as starbucks and daycares. Michael
Bourton stated that the ad hoc subcommittee sunsets this month and it
would be nice to have a report on the results in the coming months. Ricky
Williams stated that the subcommittee would be ready to sunset.
6.3 DISCUSSION OF THE EQUITY FRAMEWORK AD HOC
SUBCOMMITTEE
Equity Framework ad hoc subcommittee expires in April 2025
Lainey Bloom (CivicSpark Fellow) stated that the subcommittee first
discussed what equitable outreach looks like and where the most
important community touch points are in La Mesa to spread the word
about programs and get feedback. The subcommittee talked about what
the barriers are for community members getting involved in sustainability
programs and city programs. Lainey Bloom stated how programs should
consider accessibility to renters and not just homeowners as 40% of La
Mesa is made up of renters. She stated that the subcommittee
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brainstormed how acquiring feedback can be incorporated into spaces
where the CAP team is already conducting outreach. This could look like
having outreach questions prepared when going to tabling events that
elicit information from the community on how and where they get their
information about city programs. She stated the potential for having a
checklist for internal use for staff to engage with equity considerations
throughout the planning stages of projects.
Dasmine McFarlin stated that when asking questions in the community it
would be important to keep them simple and engaging and making sure
we are going out into the public and asking these questions. She stated
that tabling at the farmers market could be impactful.
Lainey Bloom asked the commission if they have any priorities for what
the checklist items to staff would look like or any thoughts on incorporating
equitable engagement at tabling events. Ricky Williams stated he would
be curious how the City is tracking engagement online and if there is a
way to know how different demographics are being reached. He stated
incorporating questions for the community into events like Earth Day.
Serena Lee stated our communications manager has access to online
engagement data. Ricky Williams stated the subcommittee sunsets next
month.
6.4 DISCUSSION OF THE ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION SAFETY
EDUCATION AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE
Alternative Transportation Safety Education ad hoc subcommittee expires
in May 2025
Ricky Williams stated that the direction of the subcommittee is helping to
create education for drivers that are pedestrian and bike oriented and
working to educate large vehicle owners in this capacity. Amanda-Dawn
Natalia stated the subcommittee talked about what education looks like
with alternative transportation safety and how it is important to include
education outside of the standard bike education and direct it at drivers
with specific errors that should be corrected. The subcommittee brought
up the sign on Fletcher as a tool for educational messaging. She asked
the commission what driver focused education would look like.
Barbara Shustek stated an example of watching out for bikers when you
open car doors. Jack Sellinger and Barbara Shustek stated the need for
education aimed toward walking safely. Dasmine McFarlin, Ricky Williams,
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Michael Bourton stated the potential for understanding signage
placements and data connections to placement.
6.5 DISCUSSION OF THE CAP IMPLEMENTATION WORK PLAN AD HOC
SUBCOMMITTEE
Climate Action Plan (CAP) Implementation Work Plan ad hoc
subcommittee expires in May 2025
Barbara Shustek stated that the subcommittee meeting was a
brainstorming session to develop an implementation report. In the past,
the reports have been very extensive. The City of San Diego and county
have detailed plans. She stated the subcommittee went over prioritization
to rank implementation actions. Amanda-Dawn Natalia stated that
historically the City of La Mesa has had a robust implementation plan for
the size of the City. She stated there is concern over how much effort goes
into the implementation plans when they may not necessarily be utilized
by City staff or much of the public. The subcommittee discussed the
importance of format and presentation to better engage the public as well
as a system of prioritization with rough suggestions such as: measures
that are already funded or underway, staff availability, metric tons of
greenhouse gas reductions, amount or quality of co-benefits, general
public feedback and commission feedback. She stated the subcommittee
wanted to gain feedback on what prioritization could look like. Ricky
Williams stated the timeline to implementation would be a good priority
and it ties into co-benefits and prioritizing actions that have direct impacts
on community public health.
Public comment: Wendy Mihalic stated that she brought an old La Mesa
CAP Implementation Work Plan and stated the importance of including
specific information such as cost and staff time. She stated the benefit of
performance targets to keep the City on track. She stated the City of San
Diego has a great CAP but they are not implementing it. She stated the
City of La Mesa should have work plans for their staff with line items that
tie their departmental work back to the CAP. Wendy Mihalic stated that the
e-bike incentive program is a good initiative and that the same kind of
funding would be impactful if put towards electric induction cooktops. The
City should look at how to get induction cooktops to people in communities
of concern.
6.6 DISCUSSION OF SCHEDULING A SPECIAL MEETING FOR THE EDCO
FACILITY TOUR
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Serena Lee stated that the special meeting to tour the Lemon Grove
EDCO facility tour would be April 24th at 9:00 am for about one hour.
Ricky Williams and Serena Lee stated that they recommend wearing
closed toed shoes with long pants and a long shirt to the facility tour and a
change of clothes if you are going somewhere after.
Recommended Motion: To approve the time of the Lemon Grove EDCO
facility tour on April 24th at 9:00 AM
Moved by Chair Williams
Seconded by Vice Chair Natalia
Vote: 6-0-1
Ayes: Bourton, McFarlin, Natalia, Sellinger, Shustek, Williams
Noes: None
Abstain: None
Absent: Nooristani
Motion Approved
6.7 DISCUSSION OF THE MAY ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY
COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING
Amanda-Dawn Natalia and Ricky Williams stated that Serena Lee and
Hilary Ego will not be able to attend the May 19th Environmental
Sustainability Commission regular meeting.
Recommended Motion: To table the discussion of the May Environmental
Sustainability Commission Regular Meeting to be discussed at the April
meeting.
Moved by Chair Williams
Seconded by Commissioner Bourton
Vote: 6-0-1
Ayes: Bourton, McFarlin, Natalia, Sellinger, Shustek, Williams
Noes: None
Abstain: None
Absent: Nooristani
Motion Approved
7. STAFF AND COMMISSIONER ANNOUNCEMENTS
Serena Lee stated that she will be working on heat adaptation with other local
jurisdictions. She stated that the CAP team submitted a grant in conjunction with
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the La Mesa Park and Recreation Foundation for the SDCP Community Grant.
GRID will be a partner if the City is chosen for the grant and funds will be put
towards electrifying park equipment. She stated the EV Charging Master Plan
survey closed. EDCO is providing free mulch at the Ramona facility to anyone
that comes and says how they will apply the mulch. The City will also be working
on compost awareness week, May 4th-10th in conjunction with the County of
San Diego and other jurisdictions. The City is researching and exploring
sustainable commutes with SANDAG.
Amanda-Dawn Natalia questioned how to get involved in the La Mesa Earth Day
Fair on April 19th. Serena Lee stated that people interested in volunteering can
contact Hilary Ego. Ricky Williams stated that commission members have
volunteered to table for the CAP team in the past.
Amanda-Dawn Natalia stated that the 8th annual State of Biodiversity
Symposium is happening on April 8th at the San Diego Natural History Museum
from 5 pm- 9 pm.
Mark Gracyk stated that the Helix Water District ground breaking ceremony for
the electric vehicle fleet is next Tuesday at 10 am.
8. ADJOURNMENT
Chair Ricky Williams adjourned the meeting at 8:08 PM.
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Agenda
LA MESA ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION
AGENDA
A Regular Meeting
Date: Monday, March 17, 2025, 6:00 p.m.
Location: City Manager's Conference Room, 8130 Allison Avenue
La Mesa, California
Commissioners: Chair Richard Williams
Vice Chair Amanda-Dawn Natalia
Commissioner Michael Bourton
Commissioner Dasmine McFarlin
Commissioner Mary Nooristani
Commissioner Jack Sellinger
Commissioner Barbara Shustek
Advisory Commissioner Joe Britton
Members: Commissioner Brianna Coston
Commissioner Barbara Dagman
Commissioner Joe Garuba
Commissioner Jen Lebron
Commissioner Christina Potter
Commissioner Fabian Rodriguez
Environmental Program Manager Hilary Ego
Environmental Analyst Serena Lee
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1. CALL TO ORDER
1.1 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
2. ADDITIONS AND/OR DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA
3. PRESENTATION
3.1 GRID ALTERNATIVES SAN DIEGO PRESENTATION
4. PUBLIC COMMENTS – (TOTAL TIME – 15 MINUTES)
NOTE: In accordance with state law, an item not scheduled on the agenda may
be brought forward by the general public for comment; however, the
Environmental Sustainability Commission will not be able to discuss or take any
action on the item at this meeting. If appropriate, the item will be referred to Staff
or placed on a future agenda.
5. CONFLICT DISCLOSURES
6. CURRENT BUSINESS
6.1 DISCUSSION OF THE ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION
INFRASTRUCTURE AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE
Alternative Transportation Infrastructure ad hoc subcommittee expires in
March 2025
6.2 DISCUSSION OF THE E-BIKE INCENTIVE PROGRAM AD HOC
SUBCOMMITTEE
E-Bike Incentive Program ad hoc subcommittee expires in March 2025
6.3 DISCUSSION OF THE EQUITY FRAMEWORK AD HOC
SUBCOMMITTEE
Equity Framework ad hoc subcommittee expires in April 2025
6.4 DISCUSSION OF THE ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION SAFETY
EDUCATION AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE
Alternative Transportation Safety Education ad hoc subcommittee
expires in May 2025
6.5 DISCUSSION OF THE CAP IMPLEMENTATION WORK PLAN AD HOC
SUBCOMMITTEE
Climate Action Plan (CAP) Implementation Work Plan ad hoc
subcommittee expires in May 2025
6.6 DISCUSSION OF SCHEDULING A SPECIAL MEETING FOR THE
EDCO FACILITY TOUR
6.7 DISCUSSION OF THE MAY ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY
COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING
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7. STAFF AND COMMISSIONER ANNOUNCEMENTS
8. ADJOURNMENT
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