City Council
Regular MeetingLaconia, NH · June 29, 2015
Minutes
LACONIA CITY COUNCIL
SPECIAL MEETING
JUNE 29, 2015
CITY HALL – CONFERENCE ROOM 200A
7:00 P.M.
CALL TO ORDER:
Mayor Engler called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
RECORDING SECRETARY: City Clerk Reynolds
ATTENDANCE: Councilor Ava Doyle, Councilor David Bownes, Councilor Henry Lipman,
Councilor Brenda Baer, Councilor Robert Hamel, Councilor Armand Bolduc.
Mayor Engler noted that there are were six (6) Councilors in attendance and a quorum is
established.
STAFF ATTENDANCE: City Manager Scott Myers
I. PUBLIC HEARING
Mayor Engler opened the public hearing at 7:02 p.m. with the notice being made in the
Thursday, June 18, 2015 edition of the Laconia Daily Sun, at City Hall, the Gale Memorial
Library, the Laconia Community Center and the offices of the Laconia School District.
Mayor Engler provided backup for those in attendance. The Belknap Economic Development
Council (BEDC), through a wholly-owned limited liability corporation (LLC), has secured an
agreement to purchase the Colonial Theatre buildings, comprising of the theatre, residential
units and commercial store fronts totaling three (3) buildings, in Downtown. On May 26, 1025
the City Council met in non-public session to discuss the financing of this purchase and voted
unanimously to support a resolution committing the City to the following actions:
• A loan would be made to BEDC for the price that will enable the sale to be closed in
approximately 30 days; BEDC will pay interest only for a term of up to 18 months and
the loan will be secured with real estate purchased.
• An interest-only loan to BEDC for an amount between $2 -$3 million that will help
facilitate a closing on the Colonial Theatre restoration and renovation project will be
made by the City in approximately 12 to 18 months. The term of the note will be
seven (7) years and the real estate will secure the loan.
• After the renovation work is completed the City will become the sole tenant of the
Colonial Theatre for the first seven (7) years and operate the facility as a civic
auditorium with the City determining who uses it and at what cost, if any.
• The City will secure the option to purchase the auditorium from the BEDC at the end
of the seven (7) year lease period for an amount equal to the face value of the note
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for renovations. If the City declines to exercise this option the note will be due and
payable at that time.
Mayor Engler further explained that RSA 33:3 authorizes municipalities to become financially
involved, for the purposes of economic development, in public-private partnerships if the public
benefit is found to outweigh any benefit accruing to a private party. The City Council commits to
these actions with determination that the financial obligations incurred won’t affect the amount
needed to be collected in property taxes in any year to a point where the City’s property tax cap
would need to be overridden.
Mayor Engler asked former Mayor Rod Dyer for comment on behalf of the Cultural Arts
Committee. Mr. Dyer also delivered a statement from Mark Primeau on behalf of Bank of New
Hampshire in favor of the proposal, attached herein.
Mr. Dyer reviewed the Colonial Theatre Needs Assessment, dated December 31, 2010, at
which time several determinations were made, attached herein. Mr. Dyer also reviewed how the
dynamics of Downtown Laconia would change from the Colonial Theatre renovation, attached
herein.
Mayor Engler thanked Mr. Dyer for his efforts and comments. Chairman of the Board of
Education Joe Cormier was asked to comment from an educational perspective. Chairman
Cormier expressed the need for a larger auditorium space because the high school is the only
space in the City, which is far too small and cannot accommodate the needs of the community.
The civic auditorium would allow for the community, educational programs, and the City to have
a place that is used and needed in the City. Mayor Engler thanked Mr. Cormier for his
comments.
Mayor Engler called for general comments from the public from a list of those signed in to
speak. The following spoke in favor:
Mary Diver (49 Parker St) is the Director of the New Horizons Band of the Lakes Region. M.
Diver commented that this would be a fantastic place to open up to local performing groups and
to have art displays. M. Diver feels that a civic auditorium would bring other business back to
Downtown, as has happened in other communities.
Melissa Bigler (7 Wildwood Rd) stated that she appreciates what the Colonial Theatre will offer
to the community, not only to the business endeavors it could help create, but to the theatrical
community. This will bring the community together and the possibilities are endless.
Alfred Columb (114 Hickory Stick Lane) commented that this is some of the greatest news he
has heard in a long time for the City. A. Columb feels this would be a real “shot in the arm” for
the Downtown and will encourage nightlife and activities with musicians on the streets. The
Town of Meredith has a television advertisement enticing people to come for the theatres and
the City could be doing something similar. A. Columb thanked everyone that has been working
on this and acknowledged that there is a lot of work to come.
Debbie Frawley Drake (94 Baldwin St) stated she is very excited to see this happening, having
been a former business owner in Downtown and seeing the impact the closing of the Colonial
Theatre has had on the economy. There is a positive sense for Downtown with the new
businesses opening and this is another great happening.
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David Stamps (20 Pine Brook Lane) commented as one of the original founding members of the
Laconia Main Street Initiative that the Colonial Theatre has been on the top of the list every year
and many shots were made to have this happen but no one gave up. D. Stamps added that the
day after this was announced you didn’t have to say what you were smiling about. The biggest
benefit of this will be intangible and will help the City move forward spiritually with the heart
being put back into the Downtown rather than the cancer in there soul. If the Colonial Theatre
hadn’t been saved it would have needed to be torn down in time.
Kate Bishop Hamel (Belknap Independent Business Alliance - BIBA) expressed that BIBA
supports the City in its efforts to loan BEDC funds in its efforts to purchase the Colonial Theatre
as a public benefit for our community.
Pam Clark (191 Sandhurst Dr) commented that four (4) years ago she posed a challenge to the
City to get the Colonial Theatre up and running again and she is happy to see that it is going to
happen. P Clark, on behalf of the Laconia Historical and Museum Society and the Laconia
Heritage Commission, offered support of both organizations and noted that the press
conference was emotional for her to watch.
Jessica Alward (36 Emerald Dr) commented on behalf of the Streetcar Company Community
Theatre, which is the longest continually running theatre group in the Lakes Region and has
offered productions for over 40 years. Over the last 40 years the Streetcar Company never had
a permanent home but was fortunate to have performance spaces at the Garden Theatre and
Laconia High School. A few years ago performances were moved to the Interlake’s High School
Auditorium because it could accommodate the Company. The Streetcar Company wants to be a
Laconia based group and showcase talents in Downtown Laconia. The renovation of the
Colonial Theatre will provide for all entertainment and arts genres and will provide for an anchor
in Downtown. The Board of Director of the Streetcar Company highly favor the plans for the
Colonial Theatre and pledge there support in time, talents, and funding.
Matt Lahey (48 Cottonwood Ave) congratulated the Council and BEDC on pulling this off. When
M. Lahey was on the Council there was always talk of revitalization and the definition was
tossed around; this Council has made that definition by making the statement that sometimes a
project is so big and beneficial to the City at large that the collective resources of the City need
to be called upon to make it happen. This is big for all of the reasons that have already been
said and this is one of the biggest happens to the City in a while.
Steven Bogert (21 Spruce St) commented that this was a very good idea and this is going to be
a key to the development of Downtown. It was noted that there is housing with the Colonial
Theatre buildings and this needs to be considered as well. S. Bogert thanked the Council for
pulling it off.
Michael Persson (43 McGrath St) is in strong support of the project and the economic
development as a local business owner. One of the points previously made was regarding
housing and those above the Colonial Theatre are some of the worst in the City. M. Perrson
added that this is a concern for the United Way, for which he serves, and the renovation of
those units can attract people who can spend in Downtown.
Sean Sullivan (16 Gale Ave), as the past Chair and current Treasurer of the BEDC, thanked the
Council for all of the support for this project. S. Sullivan noted that there was an editorial article
in the newspaper this morning in opposition of this project with several inaccuracies about the
details of this proposal. The BEDC purchase of the property will not remove it from the taxable
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property because it will not be used for a charitable purpose as a 501 (c) 6 organization; the
renovation of the property will actually increase the value of the property and will take the
burden of the cost of renovation off of the tax payers of the City. S. Sullivan added that there are
hopes that this will encourage further development in the Downtown area and the public benefit
far outweighs any risk the City may have with this proposal.
Dorothy Duffy (47 Whipple Ave) commented that she is in total support of the Colonial Theatre
opening again. D. Duffy has been active in many groups in the City and each time the Colonial
Theatre is a topic of discussion. With many theatres opening in other cities in the State it is
needed for the City to have one as well so performers can be attracted to the area. In regards to
the Putnam Fund needing a place to hold shows, D. Duffy commented that she has been turned
away because the Laconia High School auditorium was at capacity and in her opinion this is
pathetic. D. Duffy added that the Colonial Theatre is also a historical building and it is delighting
that this one can be saved.
Robert Sawyer (520 Main St) stated that for more than four (4) decades his life has revolved
around Downtown Laconia and this is the biggest and best thing that has happened in that time.
R. Sawyer thanked the Council and everyone else in the room for moving forward and he
cannot disagree with anything said this evening. Regarding the public purpose, R. Sawyer said
that it speaks for itself because watching how society is developing this can only be done with
the City’s help.
John Moriarty (600 Main St), speaking as a resident, business owner and the President of the
Laconia Main Street Initiative, commented that he spent a third of his life trying to do what the
Council has done, and the Council made it appear so effortless, therefore he tipped his hat off to
the Council. J. Moriarty added that it is the strong belief of himself and many others that there is
a strong public benefit to this proposal and distributed written correspondence from those he
has reached out to today regarding the proposal. J. Moriarty closed by quoting former President
John Adams.
Matt Soza (19 Bowman St) commented that it was a sad day when the Colonial Theatre was
shut down and he is thrilled to feel the opposite tonight. M. Soza added that this proposal has
public benefit beyond anything imaginable. The cultural scenes happening in this community
and they can be highlighted by this stage and facility.
Warren Clement (1480 Old North Main St) congratulated the Council and BEDC and thanked
them for the vision, sense of community and jobs this project will bring.
Paul Fitzgerald (1376 Old North Main St) stated the Council should savor tonight because the
citizens have lined up to thank them for their efforts. P. Fitzgerald commented that the public
benefit is obvious and the intangible benefits, the largest one being the positive attitudes
created with a sea of change happening. The citizens have been waiting for the lead and the
Council has given it to them.
Jim Daubenspeck – Daub’s Cobble Shop (24 Canal St) stated that he is very excited to see
what is going on and as a new building owner in Downtown he is grateful. When J.
Daubenspeck was faced with having to move he went to several communities in and out of the
Lakes Region and logic told them they could go to any other community and be successful.
They wanted to be part of Downtown Laconia and he is committed to spending the rest of his
career in Downtown. J. Daubenspeck spoke of his excitement for the community and extended
a job well done to the Council.
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Mark Warren (Beacon St E), representing Grace Capital Church and the Master Plan Advisory
Committee, stated that he came into the City as a learner and listener and found that the City is
unique and beautiful. He has also learned that there is a sense of hopelessness when efforts
have been trying. When the decision was made M. Warren noticed a change of the heart
because there is now a feeling of a new beginning for the City. M. Warren commended the
Council for giving belief back to the people of the City.
Pat Wood (717 Shore Drive) commented that this is an exciting opportunity, and as the Chair of
the Downtown TIF Advisory Committee stated they are prepared to help in any way possible to
see this project move forward. Chair Wood has been involved with Downtown since he moved
to Laconia and it is the heart and soul of the City. The Council has made significant
achievements over the last 15 years and this is the crowning glory of those achievements.
Mike Seymour (67 Brian Lane) stated that anytime you venture into a decision like this it comes
with a greater amount of deliberation and discussion, and having worked alongside many of the
Councilors during his terms as Mayor, M. Seymour is confident the due diligence was put
forward to do this and it is greatly appreciated. As a reminder to the community, M. Seymour
stated that this may be a catalyst to move things forward in the City it is not the only thing or an
end-all savior; this is where it all begins and the reactive nature of looking to the future and
adding stability to the City.
Charlie St. Clair (39 Messer St) thanked the Council for taking this step on behalf of his parents
and others that are no longer here because they would be thrilled and proud that the City is
taking this step. It is a win/win situation and the Council is stepping up.
Karen Barker (Lane Rd) thanked the Council for the work they have done, especially given how
difficult these discussions have been in the past. K. Barker expressed that this building is an
eyesore and something needs to be done so this is a good option. K. Barker does have
concerns with long-term viability and understands it will take time to work out the logistics but a
use of the building to make it sustainable is the responsibility of the entire community. K. Barker
would also like to see, to the greatest extent possible, that local businesses are used as much
as possible to keep money in the community, as well as the assurance that this is going to
remain a civic auditorium and not become a money maker for someone else after the
community has made so many efforts to save the building.
Mike Kepler (Tilton) spoke on behalf of his family, with his wife being from Laconia. M. Kepler
noted that he went to the Colonial Theatre 20 years ago and saw “Mission: Impossible” which is
rather coincidental because the Council and BEDC has made the Colonial Theatre a “Mission:
Possible”.
The following signed in favor but did not choose to speak:
Shirley Richardson (130 Endicott St N #522)
Becky Guyer (194 Woodman Rd, Sanbornton)
Lynn Dadian (134 Pease Rd, Meredith)
Raelyn Cottrell (PO Box 547, Gilmanton)
Meredith Horton (131 Pine St)
Beth SanSoucie (53 Harvard St)
Suzanne Perley (125 Hickory Stick Lane)
Catherine Holt (725 Shore Dr)
Judith Busewell (20 Pine Brook Lane)
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Scott Alward (36 Emerald Dr)
Aaron Witham (548 Belknap Mtn Rd, Gilford)
Hillary Ayers (53 Wood Dr, Gilmanton)
Mike Koepfer (44 S Windy Rd, Tilton)
Robert Legasse (91 Warren St)
Debbie Bolduc (67 Fairview St)
Katherine Smith (12 Pleasant St #22)
Jeanne Compton (2 Pleasant St)
Mary Jane Hoey (25 Brian Lane)
Tony Felch (189 North St)
Karen Sullivan
Emily Clement (36 McGrath St)
Kevin Sullivan (84 Shore Dr)
Jane Wood (717 Shore Dr)
Nancy Rousset (46 Pendleton Beach Rd)
Nicole Fernandez (29 Penny Lane
Chris Fernandez (29 Penny Lane)
Valerie Kimball (22 Addison St)
Karl Kimball (21 Addison St)
Sharon Walden (449 Shore Dr)
Cari Ordway (18 Clark Ave)
Mayor Engler listed the following having written in to either the Mayor or the Laconia Main Street
Initiative; all are available herein:
Penny Pitou, President (Penny Pitou Travel)
Kathleen & Brad Brown
Tim Cameron, Master Photographer (Achber Studio)
Thomas Selling (1315 Old North Main St) – in favor of the project but not the financing
by the City
Stephen Wainwright (16 Race Point Rd)
Betty Anson
Melissa McCarthy, Owner (The Studio, 50 Canal St)
Bob Selig
Dean Anson II
With no other members of the public wishing to speak Mayor Engler closed the public hearing at
8:11 p.m.
II. Council Comments
Councilor Doyle commented that she feels this is a bright light in the middle of Downtown and
noted that a friend in Indiana sent her a note regarding this and she is proud that this is making
waves in the middle of the Country.
Councilor Bownes stated that this is the best Council meeting he has ever been to and thanked
the people that came out to speak this evening. Councilor Bownes was an early attendee to the
Colonial Theatre and he is humbled to be a part of the Council that is going to make this
happen; the public benefit has been spoken of many times.
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Councilor Lipman thanked the BEDC because without their efforts. The economic aspect of this
project is unique because the loan is not spending because the funds are reserves that are not
going to have an impact on the tax base, and in actuality the interest paid on the loan will
possibly net more. Councilor Lipman added that the City should not be left aside and they
should join the other communities that have utilized tax credits to turn their communities around.
The partners involved make this project forward moving and an accomplishment on an
economic, cultural and historical standpoint.
Councilor Baer commented that she has been on the Council for 10 years and when her original
objective was to see Downtown revitalized. The process has been discouraging and in 2010 she
had the feelings that it was the end of the line for the Colonial Theatre. Councilor Baer thanked
the people behind the scenes – BCED and its members, Councilor Lipman, Mayor Engler, the
Cultural Arts Committee, the Laconia Main Street Initiative, and the merchants/residents that
have stuck to it and helped this happen. The Colonial Theatre is a catalyst and everything will
come back.
Councilor Hamel thanked everyone for coming and giving the Council input. Being a theatre
lover with his wife, Councilor Hamel has traveled to many theatres, near and far, to see shows
and productions; it will be nice to be able to walk to Downtown and see a production. With the
Huot Center project, in conjunction with the stadium project, Councilor Hamel worked with
Chairman Cormier and former Mayor Lahey; watching the fundraising that happened and to see
the community come together was amazing. Councilor Hamel doesn’t see any reason why this
can’t happen with this project. For the last 10 years he has been on the Council there have been
efforts to make this happen and it is nice to see this happening.
Councilor Hamel added that if this had been proposed as a public project, he would not have
been able to vote for it. With the public-private project and the financing that came together to
make this happen, in conjunction with the meaning to the community, it is not something that
can be voted against. It will benefit Downtown, the past attendees and a great place to give
younger people an opportunity to see what theatre really is.
Councilor Bolduc has attended productions at every theatre in the City and has been serving 32
years on the City Council. The Colonial Theatre has been brought forward four (4) times during
his service on the Council and it is finally going to happen and the credit goes to the BCED and
the City Manager. Councilor Bolduc cannot wait to see the project complete and he hopes that
the Garden Theatre will be next on the list. Councilor Bolduc thanked everyone for coming and
encouraged everyone to come to more meetings of the Council.
III. Proposed Resolution
Mayor Engler repeated that RSA 33:3 allows for municipalities to become financially involved in
public-private partnerships for the purpose of economic development so long as the public body
has determined that there is a public benefit to outweigh any benefit accruing to a private party.
The answer in this situation is obvious and there will be several non-profit organizations
involved, including a 501 (c) 3 entity that will be involved in this process. Mayor Engler stated
that the bottom line here, in terms of the public involvement and operation of the auditorium as a
civic auditorium, is that this decision was made together by the elected officials of the governing
body and it is being determined that the operation of this theatre as a civic auditorium, in the
same manner as the City would operate and maintain other publicly owned, is a benefit to every
resident of the City. Mayor Engler respects those that disagree but feels the vast majority of the
public supports this proposal.
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A resolution was presented to the Council. Discussion was had regarding some language and
the resolution was modified to remove a section stating only non-profit organizations could be
involved in the seven (7) year ownership of the property. By having this clause it could remove
the flexibility to have profit organizations involved which could exclude the ability to obtain
certain tax credit.
Councilor Bolduc moved the following:
WHEREAS New Hampshire RSA 33:3 expressly authorizes municipalities to issue bonds or
notes for purposes of economic development, which shall include public-private partnerships
involving capital improvements, loans and guarantees; and
WHEREAS the Laconia City Council did on May 26, 2015 commit to loan a limited liability
corporation (LLC) formed by the Belknap Economic Development Council (BEDC) for the
purpose of purchasing the three (3) Colonial Theatre buildings in Downtown Laconia a sum of
up to $1.5 million for up to 18 months; and
WHEREAS BEDC has secured a purchase and sales agreement to gain title to these properties
for the sum of $1.4 million; and
WHEREAS a closing on the Colonial Theatre properties is expected to occur no later than July
17, 2015; and
WHEREAS it is considered vital to the economic vitality of the Downtown area and the overall
City that this historic property be renovated and put to productive use; and
WHEREAS the City has a clear need for a first-class, general-use auditorium space; and
WHEREAS BEDC has committed itself to spend approximately $13.2 million renovating the
Colonial Theater properties; and
WHEREAS the Laconia City Council did, on May 26, 2015, commit to lease a renovated, 800+
seat, Colonial Theatre auditorium from BEDC for a term of seven (7) years; and
WHEREAS the Laconia City Council did, on June 29, 2015, hold a public hearing for the
purpose of allowing residents/property taxpayers to testify on the subject of whether the
purchase and renovation of the Colonial Theatre properties would result in a significant public
benefit.
Now therefore be it resolved that on the 29th day of June, 2015 the Laconia City Council finds
the public benefit in a public-private partnership involving the purchase and renovation of the
Colonial Theatre properties outweighs any benefit accruing to a private party.
Seconded by Councilor Baer. Vote was 6-0 and the motion passed.
ADJOURNMENT
With no other business to come before the Council the meeting was adjourned by Mayor Engler
at 8:36 p.m.
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Respectfully Submitted:
Mary A. Reynolds
City Clerk
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