City Council
Regular MeetingLaconia, NH · November 25, 2019
Minutes
CITY OF LACONIA - CITY COUNCIL MEETING
November 25, 2019
7:00 P.M.
11/25/2019 - Minutes
1. CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Engler called the meeting to order at the above date and time.
2. SALUTE TO THE FLAG
Councilor Bownes lead the Salute to the Flag.
3. RECORDING SECRETARY
Cheryl Hebert, City Clerk
4. ROLL CALL
City Clerk Hebert took the roll with the following Councilors in attendance: Bruce Cheney, David Bownes,
Henry Lipman, Mark Haynes, Bob Hamel, and Andrew Hosmer.
Mayor Engler noted all six (6) Councilors were in attendance and a quorum was established.
5. STAFF IN ATTENDANCE
Scott Myers, City Manager
Glenn Smith, Finance Director
6. COUNCIL PROCLAMATION
7. ACCEPTANCE OF MINUTES FROM PREVIOUS MEETINGS
7.A. Regular meeting minutes of November 12, 2019
Minutes of the meeting were distributed to the Council on Friday, November 15, 2019. With no
corrections or changes submitted to the Clerk, the minutes were accepted as distributed.
8. CONSENT & ACTION ITEMS
9. CITIZEN COMMENTS FOR MATTERS NOT ON THE AGENDA
No comments from the public were made.
10. INTERVIEWS
11. NOMINATIONS, APPOINTMENTS & ELECTIONS
12. COMMUNICATIONS
13. PUBLIC HEARINGS
14. PRESENTATIONS
15. MAYOR'S REPORT
Mayor Engler reminded the public that the Celebrate Laconia Annual Christmas Celebration is this Sunday,
December 1, 2019 from 1 pm to 6:00 pm. The parade will begin at 4:30 pm beginning from Opechee Park
and ending at Stewart Park.
15. MAYOR'S REPORT
Mayor Engler reminded the public that the Celebrate Laconia Annual Christmas Celebration is this Sunday,
December 1, 2019 from 1 pm to 6:00 pm. The parade will begin at 4:30 pm beginning from Opechee Park
and ending at Stewart Park.
Mayor Engler also mentioned the annual Christmas Village at Laconia Community Center will begin
Thursday, December 5, 2019 and end Sunday, December 8, 2019. The Grand Opening is at 6:00 pm
Thursday evening.
Mayor Engler spoke of the the numerous e-mails received by the Council in regards to the Rail-to-Trail
subject. Mayor Engler discussed the comments that he has read online. The City Council is not
considering pulling up any tracks in the City of Laconia. Laconia does not have any jurisdiction over the
railroad tracks. Mayor Engler briefed the public on the Resolution regarding the Rail-to-Trail proposal. The
Mayor discussed the concerns of losing snowmobile access. Mayor Engler explained that the proposed
trail would be made of crushed rock and would enhance the snowmobiles trails.
16. COMMITTEE REPORTS
16.A. FINANCE (Lipman, Hamel, Cheney)
16.A.i. WOW Trail Funding
16.A.ii. Downtown TIF Financing
16.B. PUBLIC SAFETY (Bownes, Hosmer, Lipman)
16.C. GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS & ORDINANCES (Bownes, Hosmer, Cheney)
16.C.i. Review of Chapter 167, Noise and Chapter 161 Licensing as it pertains to
outdoor sound equipment and loudspeakers
16.C.ii. Ordinance Amending Chapter 221, Vehicles and Traffic/Parking on Sublawns
16.C.iii. Procedural review of grant applications
16.C.iv. Regulation of Short Term Residential Rental Businesses
16.C.v. Paid Parking Proposal for Downtown
16.C.vi. Proposed Historic Overlay District
16.C.vii. Scenic Road Motorcycle Noise Petition
16.D. LANDS & BUILDINGS (Hamel, Lipman, Haynes)
16.D.i. Downtown parking garage
16.D.ii. Repair & maintenance of City buildings
16.D.iii. Perley Pond Maintenance
16.D.iv. Plan for the DPW Compound
16.D.v. Continuation of the discussion regarding parking in the Lakeport area
16.E. PUBLIC WORKS (Bownes, Hosmer, Haynes)
16.E.i. Retaining Wall Policy
16.D.v. Continuation of the discussion regarding parking in the Lakeport area
16.E. PUBLIC WORKS (Bownes, Hosmer, Haynes)
16.E.i. Retaining Wall Policy
17. LIAISON REPORTS
18. CITIZENS REQUESTS TO COMMENT ON CURRENT AGENDA ITEMS
Chris Sweniarsky- Attorney for Hobo Railroad - Spoke in regards to the Alta Study that was conducted. He
stated the Alta Study fails to show rail matters outside of Belknap County. The Federal Service
Transportation Board has jurisdiction over any abandoned rails. Mr. Sweniarsky also stated that the removal
of rails for trails is in direct conflict with State law. This can only be done with the permission from
Department of Transportation and only if the reversion to rail use can be done at a minimum cost.
Benjamin Clark - President of the Plymouth and Lincoln Railroad - read a prepared statement and submitted
it into the record.
Peter Dearness- Owner of New England Southern Railroad - Mr. Dearness gave a brief background of the
railroad use. He spoke of the Alta Study, that he was a part of, but expressed concern that a lot of what
was discussed during the study was not documented. Mr. Dearness agrees with Mr. Clark's testimony and
does not want to see the railroad tracks torn up. He does agree with a trail beside the rail. Mr. Dearness
would like to see in the next Alta Report more information on the freight use of the railroads.
David Swirk, President of Conway Scenic Railroad - Mr. Swirk also participated in the Alta Study but said a
lot of the information he provided was not included. Mr. Swirk shared 30 years of his railroad experience.
Charlie St. Clair, Laconia - Representative St. Clair appreciates the Council for taking initiatives to work on
Resolutions. He would like to see the Council encourage the State to bring a passenger train service within
the City. Representative St. Clair stated if one side of Paugus Bay doesn't work for the WOW Trail then
maybe the other side by the Boulevard would work to add the WOW Trail as that would also help with
pedestrian safety.
Rick Confortie, Auburn - Mr. Confortie explained the importance of the railroad and its connections to ship
and receive equipment. He stated removing any rails would have direct effects of more pollution, clogging up
the highways, and more transport fees.
Dick Bordwell - President of the Long Bay Association - The Association represents 5,200 feet of shoreline
and the railroad runs through the properties in Long Bay and Southdown. Long Bay and Southdown are not
against the WOW Trail but they are against the location of the proposed WOW Trail due to safety issues.
As of now, the railroad runs along the shoreline and adding the WOW Trail would pose many safety issues
with the amount of traffic there. Mr. Bordwell would like to speak with the WOW Organization to come up
with alternative locations for the WOW Trail to run through Long Bay and Southdown Shores. The
Association wants to work with the City to continue the WOW Trail but not at the expense of the rail and
not in the proposed location.
Ray Spinosa - 5 Paradise Drive - Mr. Spinosa spoke of the WOW Trail and how the procedure has
changed. Mr. Spinosa stated that if the railroad service expanded to the Lakeport and Laconia area it would
bring more people to the up and coming Colonial Theatre, the beaches, farmer markets and fairs. The train
would drive the economy with bringing more tourists to the area.
Pat Marcoux - Lantern Circle - Referenced a letter that was provided to the Mayor last year from Patrick
Herlihy, Director of Aeronautics, Rail and Transit for the NH Department of Transportation which specified
the legalities in the issues involving the rail system. Mr. Marcoux passed the letter to the Clerk to share
with the Council.
Mayor Engler asked Mr. Marcoux if he had a copy of the Mayor's response to the letter from Mr. Herlihy as
that should be part of the record as well. Mr. Marcoux did not have a copy.
Pat Marcoux - Prior to this meeting, Mr. Herlihy sent another letter stating, again, the removal of the rail line
in an active rail corridor is contrary to state law RSA 228:60-a. Mr. Marcoux state this Resolution would
have a negative impact on both tourists and freight services.
Mayor Engler asked Mr. Marcoux if he had a copy of the Mayor's response to the letter from Mr. Herlihy as
that should be part of the record as well. Mr. Marcoux did not have a copy.
Pat Marcoux - Prior to this meeting, Mr. Herlihy sent another letter stating, again, the removal of the rail line
in an active rail corridor is contrary to state law RSA 228:60-a. Mr. Marcoux state this Resolution would
have a negative impact on both tourists and freight services.
Mayor Engler referred to his response to Mr. Herlihy's previous letter. Mayor Engler stated that the State
law can be changed.
Reuben Bassett - Spoke in regards to Short Term Rentals. Mr. Bassett is concerned with adding
unneccessary regulations to property owners but does agree there needs to be some oversight on it. Mr.
Bassett doesn't want to make it harder for property owners. Mr. Bassett understands there are many people
operating illegal short term rentals and that is why it needs to be addressed but does not want the Council
to overburden these owners.
Kevin Morrissette - 518 Shore Drive - Expressed his concern with short term rentals as he has been doing it
with his camp, that he has never lived in, on Eastman Shore Road.
Reuben Bassett - Spoke in regards to the proposed Historic Overlay District. Mr. Bassett owns two
businesses in one of the buildings that may be added to the Historic Overlay District. He expressed his
concern with adding regulations where there is already a system in place to protect historic buildings with
the National Historic Registry.
Jon Moriarty - Chairman of the Laconia Public Library Board of Trustees - At the Library Board of Trustees
meeting, held last Thursday, the board voted unanimously to veto the idea of adding the Library to the
Historic Overlay District. Mr. Moriarty submitted into the record a letter written by Johnson Roberts
Associations, Inc. The Library Board of Trustees, as much as they want to save the Church, does not agree
with creating a Historic Overlay District that will save one building and put the rest of the neighborhood at
risk.
Tara Shore, 47 Adams Street - Spoke on behalf of the Historic Overlay District. Mrs. Shore stated that
being on the National Historic Registry does not save that building or protect it in any way. Mrs. Shore
stated the Library is on an easement, and that being said, the easement will have many more restrictions
than what has been proposed in the regulations for the Historic Overlay District. Mrs. Shore share a story of
a couple she spoke to recently regarding them moving to the area and their reasons for wanting to move
here is for the main purpose of Laconia proposing a Historic Overlay District. Mrs. Shore spoke of the
potential of economic development that could happen with creating a Historic Overlay District.
Representative Charlie St. Clair spoke of the Historic Overlay District and he is for forming this committee.
He feels any protection to these buildings is the right step forward..
Dick Bordwell - Long Bay/South Down - Mr. Bordwell expressed his concern with the Zoning being changed
from Residential Single Family to Shorefront Residential. Mr. Bordwell stated that Long Bay and South
Down is 100% residential. The associations would like to be able to regulate their own rentals.
Mayor Engler explained that it was himself that proposed changing the zones in the Long Bay/South Down
areas due to his understanding at the time, that the residents wanted to be able to do short-term rentals.
Mayor Engler stated the Council passed on a first reading, to rezone those two associations. Since then,
the Planning Director has been formally notified from the two homeowners associations that they do not
want to be rezoned, and the Council has been made aware of that request.
Dick Bordwell stated his gratitude to the Council for allowing the homeowner associations to handle this on
their own.
19. CITY MANAGER'S REPORT
19.A. Project Updates Report
City Manager Myers reviewed the report.
City Manager Myers submitted into the record a document titled Major Road/Bridge Projects for
19.A. Project Updates Report
City Manager Myers reviewed the report.
City Manager Myers submitted into the record a document titled Major Road/Bridge Projects for
2020 which gives a breakdown of the construction projects for next season. City Manager Myers did
state that the projects will not be happening at the same time. City Manager Myers stated all social
media avenues will be used in order to keep the public up to date with construction projects.
Councilor Cheney requested the City Manager bring to the Council some comparisons with costs of
doing night time paving.
Councilor Hamel appreciates the patch job that was completed on Court Street. Councilor Hamel is
still addressing the light that Eversource has not fixed for the past two years. City Manager Myers
stated they have been reminded and Eversource still has not been able to diagnose the problem at
this point. Councilor Hamel complimented Public Works and the contractors on Lakeport Square.
Councilor Hosmer has received some complaints in regard to the delayed light in the Lakeport
Square area.
City Manager Myers explained he did receive a phone in that regards and does believe it may be a
learning curve with the delayed light system.
City Manager Myers appointed Jim Rice to the Board of Assessors as an Alternate.
City Manager Myers submitted into the record a picture of a banner pole from Concord NH. The
Council has already approved the installation of banner poles for the area by the Landmark Inn and
Stewart Park. The minimum bid came back at $42,800 which far exceeds the not to exceed limit of
$25,000.
A request was made from the Downtown TIF for the installation of the banner poles in order to
advertise events for a nominal fee.
Mayor Engler asked the Council if they want to proceed with the purchase and installation of the
banner poles for an additional $17,800.
Councilor Hamel moved to table the banner poles across Main Street with instructions for
administration to look for other alternatives that would be less costly, seconded by Councilor
Haynes;
Councilor Bownes asked how long would it be for the poles to be constructed once approved. City
Manager Myers stated the poles would be constructed in the Spring as weather would allow.
Mayor Engler called the question; the motion passed with all in favor.
19.B. Monthly Economic Development Report
City Manager Myers reviewed the report.
20. NEW BUSINESS
20.A. Request by Laconia Frozen Diamond Co-Ed Softball Tournament for fundraising
on City park property
Councilor Hosmer moved to approve the request by Laconia Frozen Diamond Co-Ed Softball
Tournament for fundraising on City park property on January 25th and 26th, 2020 from 8:00 am until
dark at Memorial Park Baseball Field and from 8:00 am until 11:00 pm at Memorial Park Softball
Field, seconded by Councilor Haynes; the motion passed with all in favor.
20.B. Authorization of boat dealers to act as agents for the City of Laconia
Councilor Hosmer moved to allow the renewal of the Boat Agent Agreement with the State of NH -
DMV with the City of Laconia and boat dealers, seconded by Councilor Lipman; the motion passed
Field, seconded by Councilor Haynes; the motion passed with all in favor.
20.B. Authorization of boat dealers to act as agents for the City of Laconia
Councilor Hosmer moved to allow the renewal of the Boat Agent Agreement with the State of NH -
DMV with the City of Laconia and boat dealers, seconded by Councilor Lipman; the motion passed
with all in favor.
Councilor Hosmer moved to allow the City Clerk to sign the Boat Agent Agreement on behalf of the
City of Laconia, seconded by Councilor Lipman; the motion passed with all in favor.
21. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
21.A. Support for the Rail-to-Trail alternative for the WOW Trail segment from Lakeport
to Weirs Beach
Councilor Hosmer requested a more detailed report from someone from the Hobo Railroad in regards
to the Stone Consulting Report as the Council was only given a one page synopsis of the report.
Ben Clark stated he is more than willing to provide a redacted version of the Stone Consulting Report
in order to protect trade secrets.
Councilor Hosmer moved to table Resolution 2019-25 pending the Council having The Excursion
Railroad Economic Impact Analysis from Stone Consulting Inc., seconded by Councilor Bownes;
Councilor Lipman is pleased with the amount of people that are taking part in all of these decisions
to make this all work for everyone.
Councilor Cheney is opposed to tabling this item this evening due to not prolonging a decision any
further.
Councilor Lipman thinks it is important to keep this item on the table.
Councilor Hamel doesn't see any reason the WOW Trail and Railroads can't be co-existing as they
are both unique to New Hampshire. Councilor Hamel spoke of the times when the railroad used to
come to Downtown Laconia but within the last several years this has stopped. There have been
many events that would have added revenue to Laconia by the trains coming to Laconia but it has
stopped and Councilor Hamel doesn't understand why. Councilor Hamel also discussed that the
State should be spending money on keeping the tracks up to par if they do not want to lose the use
of the tracks.
Councilor Bownes is encouraged by the discussion that was had tonight in respect to these issues.
Councilor Bownes likes the idea of a public-private partnership. Councilor Bownes thinks there is
room for both the WOW Trail and the Railroads.
Mayor Engler called the question; the motion passed with all five (5) favor and one (1) opposed
(Cheney).
21.B. Amend City Code Chapter 235, Zoning, by creating a new defintion, "Lodging,
Short-Term," and corresponding regulations for this type of use under Residential
Accessory Uses
Mayor Engler asked the Council informally how many would be willing to pass this on first reading
with minor changes? Four Councilors were willing to pass this on first reading.
Councilor Hosmer moved to remove this item from the table, seconded by Councilor Hamel; the
motion passed with five (5) favor and one (1) opposed (Bownes).
Councilor Hosmer moved to waive a reading of this Ordinance in its entirety and to read by title only,
seconded by Councilor Haynes; the motion passed with five (5) in favor and one (1) opposed
(Bownes).
Councilor Hosmer moved to remove this item from the table, seconded by Councilor Hamel; the
motion passed with five (5) favor and one (1) opposed (Bownes).
Councilor Hosmer moved to waive a reading of this Ordinance in its entirety and to read by title only,
seconded by Councilor Haynes; the motion passed with five (5) in favor and one (1) opposed
(Bownes).
Councilor Hamel moved a first reading of Ordinance 2019-235, amending Chapter 235, Zoning, to
create a new definition for Short Term Lodging and accompanying regulations, seconded by
Councilor Haynes;
Councilor Bownes explained this came out of the Planning Department with no restrictions at all and
now we are looking at only one scenario in which it would be allowed and that is owner-occupied.
Councilor Bownes feels this is too restrictive and too narrow. Councilor Bownes is concerned that if
this Resolution passes with the way it is, people will continue running their short-term business
illegally and that is not what the City needs. This proposal needs to be more flexible for different
situations.
Mayor Engler questioned if the 90 consecutive nights was dropped to 14 nights, would that help?
Councilor Bownes doesn't have that answer.
Councilor Lipman proposed that the number of nights starts at seven (7).
Councilor Cheney moved to change under the definition of Lodging, Short term 90 consecutive nights
to 14 consecutive nights, seconded by Hamel; the motion passed with four (4) in favor, and two
(2) opposed (Bownes and Lipman).
Councilor Bownes is concerned with moving forward with some amendments now, scheduling a
public hearing, and then having more amendments which will cause a need for another public
hearing.
Councilor Hamel moved to change Item five (5) under Permitted or Prohibited in the following zone,
change one year to two years from date of approval and change annually to every two years,
seconded by Councilor Hosmer, the motion passed with five (5) in favor and one (1) opposed
(Lipman).
Mayor Engler suggested instructing the Planning Director to come back with language to exempt
camps from the regulation and to define camps. Discussion was had amongst the Council regarding
what should be considered a camp and should the word exempt or waiver be used. Councilor Lipman
thinks what the Council may be talking about is a seasonal not necessarily a camp. City Manager
Myers clarified that with this suggestion a camp owner still needs to come down to register but they
would be exempt from the regulations.The Council was in consensus with the Planning Director to
come back with language to exempt camps from the regulation and to define camps.
Councilor Lipman expressed that some people have been exercising certain property rights all along
and the Council needs to think long and hard before we take these rights away.
Discussion was also had in regards to how any of this would specifically impact the Winnipesaukee
Playhouse.
Mayor Engler explained that this Ordinance like any other can be amended at a future time if the
Council finds it is not working as approved the first time.
Mayor Engler called the question as amended this evening; the motion passed with four (4) in
favor and two (2) opposed (Bownes and Lipman).
Councilor Bownes moved to schedule a public hearing on December 9, 2019 during the regular City
Council meeting to gather public input prior to adoption, seconded by Councilor Haynes; the motion
passed with five (5) in favor and one (1) opposed (Lipman).
21.C. Amend City Code Zoning 235, adding a new section in Article IV, 235-21.1, Historical
Overlay District
Councilor Bownes moved to schedule a public hearing on December 9, 2019 during the regular City
Council meeting to gather public input prior to adoption, seconded by Councilor Haynes; the motion
passed with five (5) in favor and one (1) opposed (Lipman).
21.C. Amend City Code Zoning 235, adding a new section in Article IV, 235-21.1, Historical
Overlay District
Councilor Bownes stated the proposed district would include the railroad station (Veterans Park),
Laconia Public Library, St. Joseph's Church, the old Holy Trinity School, and the Rectory. But even
though the church is included it does not negate the demolition permit that has already been applied
for.
Councilor Bownes moved to waive a reading of this Ordinance in its entirety and to read by title only,
seconded by Councilor Hosmer; the motion passed with all in favor.
Councilor Bownes moved a first reading of Ordinance 2019-235-21.1, amending Chapter 235, Zoning,
to create a new section, 21.1, establishing a Historic Overlay District and accompanying
Commission, seconded by Councilor Hosmer;
Councilor Haynes agreed with Councilor Bownes and would like to move this forward to a public
hearing.
Councilor Hamel will approve moving to a public hearing but does not agree with a lot of the items
with-in the Ordinance.
Mayor Engler called the question: the motion passed with all in favor.
Councilor Hosmer moved to schedule a public hearing on December 9, 2019 during the regular City
Council meeting to gather public input prior to adoption, seconded by Councilor Haynes; the motion
passed with all in favor.
21.D. Discussion on the installation of bump outs on Beacon Street West
Discussion was had in regards to the previously approved bump-outs on Beacon Street West due to
the inconvenience they pose to Public Works when plowing.
Councilor Hamel moved to install a yellow pedestrian ADA Compliant flashing light instead of the
bump-outs on Beacon Street West, seconded by Councilor Cheney;
City Manager Myers explained even with putting a flashing light and to be ADA compliant, a tip down
bump-out will still need to be added in order to have room for the installation of the light. The
Downtown area is not plowed with a winged-truck so adding a bump-out will not be affected. City
Manager Myers also stated that by narrowing the road down to one lane leaves less of a chance for
a car to pass while a pedestrian is crossing.
Mayor Engler observed that something needs to be done other than just painting lines on a road
because with adverse weather the lines are not always visible.
Councilor Cheney read off some statistics in regards to pedestrian accidents, which in 24 months
there have been thirteen (13) pedestrian accidents in which only six (6) have been related to
crosswalks.
Mayor Engler called the question; the motion passed with four (4) in favor and two (2) opposed
(Bownes and Lipman.)
22. COUNCIL COMMENTS
Councilor Cheney requested an update of the Communication System from the City Manager. City Manager
Myers updated the Council.
Councilor Cheney requested an explanation for the rules for the use of the banner poles.
Councilor Cheney requested an update of the Communication System from the City Manager. City Manager
Myers updated the Council.
Councilor Cheney requested an explanation for the rules for the use of the banner poles.
Councilor Cheney also expressed his concern in regards a call he received from a resident with concerns of
herself and her husband not receiving the absentee ballots they applied for. Councilor Cheney did state that
the resident did speak with the City Clerk and said the Clerk was very helpful and told her when they were
mailed out. Councilor Cheney would like this problem looked into because this should not be happening.
23. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
23.A. Master Plan
23.B. Milfoil Treatment funding requests
23.C. Sewer & Water Master Plan
23.D. Single Stream Recycling/Concord Co-op/Solid Waste disposal cost reductions
23.E. Strategic Planning/Goal Setting
23.F. WOW Trail
23.G. Weirs Beach Restoration Project
23.H. Fair St/Court St traffic problems and accidents
24. Any other business that may come before the Council
25. NON-PUBLIC SESSION (According to RSA 91-A:3, II)
26. ADJOURNMENT
Councilor Bownes moved to go into non-public session under 91-A:3, II (d), consideration of the acquisition,
sale or lease of real or personal property which, if discussed in public, would likely benefit a party or parties
who interest are adverse to those of the general community, seconded by Councilor Haynes;
City Clerk Hebert took a roll call vote:
Councilor Cheney: YES
Councilor Bownes: YES
Councilor Lipman: YES
Councilor Haynes: YES
Councilor Hamel: YES
Councilor Hosmer: YES
; the motion passed with all in favor.
Mayor Engler noted all six (6) Councilors were in attendance and a quorum was established.
Councilor Hosmer moved to exit non-public, seconded by Councilor Haynes, the motion passed with all in
favor.
Councilor Hamel moved to seal the minutes for one year, seconded by Councilor Bownes, the motion
Mayor Engler noted all six (6) Councilors were in attendance and a quorum was established.
Councilor Hosmer moved to exit non-public, seconded by Councilor Haynes, the motion passed with all in
favor.
Councilor Hamel moved to seal the minutes for one year, seconded by Councilor Bownes, the motion
passed with all in favor.
With no further business to come before the Council and hearing to objection, Mayor Engler adjourned the
meeting at 10:04 pm.
Respectfully submitted,
Cheryl Hebert, City Clerk
MINUTES OF THIS MEETING WERE APPROVED BY COUNCIL ON DECEMBER 9, 2019.
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