City Council
Regular MeetingLaconia, NH · August 9, 2021
Minutes
CITY OF LACONIA - CITY COUNCIL MEETING
August 9, 2021
7:00 P.M.
8/9/2021 - Minutes
1. CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Hosmer called the meeting to order at the above date and time.
2. SALUTE TO THE FLAG
Councilor Lipman lead the Salute to the Flag.
3. RECORDING SECRETARY
Cheryl Hebert, City Clerk
4. ROLL CALL
City Clerk Hebert took a roll call vote with the following Councilors in attendance: Bruce Cheney, Bob
Soucy, Henry Lipman, Mark Haynes, Bob Hamel, and Tony Felch
Mayor Hosmer noted all six Councilors were in attendance and a quorum has been established.
5. STAFF IN ATTENDANCE
Scott Myers, City Manager
Glenn Smith, Finance Director
6. COUNCIL PROCLAMATION
7. ACCEPTANCE OF MINUTES FROM PREVIOUS MEETINGS
7.A. Regular meeting minutes of July 26, 2021
Minutes of the meeting were distributed to Council on Tuesday, July 27, 2021. With no corrections or
changes submitted to the Clerk, the minutes will be accepted as distributed.
8. PRESENTATIONS
8.A. Discussion pertaining to the State School Property
Mayor Hosmer introduced District 1 Executive Councilor Joseph Kenney and Chairman George Bald
of the Lakeshore Redevelopment Planning Commission. Mayor Hosmer explained what the value of
the State School property is to the City of Laconia.
Chairman Bald explained he was elected to the City Council of Portsmouth when he was 25 and
Mayor at 27 so he has much respect for what municipalities have to deal with. Chairman Bald briefed
the Council on the steps that the Lakeshore Redevelopment Planning Commission (LRPC) have been
taken. The legislation that created the Commission has not been repealed so the work of the
Commission will continue. If the State hires a broker and they find someone to buy it then LRPC will
no longer be. It is the goal of the commission to come up with a plan that creates jobs, creates
numerous tax paying entities, and creates something that the community can be proud of. At the
next meeting in September, the Commission will have the results of the land survey and will continue
Mayor at 27 so he has much respect for what municipalities have to deal with. Chairman Bald briefed
the Council on the steps that the Lakeshore Redevelopment Planning Commission (LRPC) have been
taken. The legislation that created the Commission has not been repealed so the work of the
Commission will continue. If the State hires a broker and they find someone to buy it then LRPC will
no longer be. It is the goal of the commission to come up with a plan that creates jobs, creates
numerous tax paying entities, and creates something that the community can be proud of. At the
next meeting in September, the Commission will have the results of the land survey and will continue
with their work.
Councilor Kenney explained a resolution was put together to form a committee to look at the issues
of this property. This is how the Commission was formed. Councilor Kenney explained it is apparent
that the Governor wants to sell the property and hire a broker and move forward but all of the work
over the past few for years of the Commission will not be lost. The Executive Council will look out for
the best interest of the City of Laconia. He explained it takes three positive votes out of five from the
Executive Council.
Mayor Hosmer thanked both Councilor Kenney and Chairman Bald for looking out for Laconia. He
appreciates their responsiveness. Mayor Hosmer hates to think that all of the work that the
Commission has put in over the past four years will be thrown aside. Mayor Hosmer personally
believes the City of Laconia deserves something more from the State. This property needs work in
order to get the maximum value for it.
Councilor Lipman asked for an explanation of what happens between the broker and the Governor
and Executive Council when it comes to the sale of state property.
Councilor Kenney explained the process begins by putting out an RFP by Administrative Services,
the qualifications of the bidders will be looked at, then reviewed by the Attorney General, then it will
come back to the Governor's Council, the Governor will add it to the agenda and the Executive
Council will take vote. Any time there is a transfer of State land it has to go through the Governor's
Council. Councilor Kenney will inform the other Councilors of the best interest for the City of Laconia.
The Executive Council looks at the final sale.
Councilor Soucy asked why the Governor is taking the work of the Commission and pushing it aside?
Chairman Bald doesn't see the Commission's work as having been wasted. The Commission's work
has added value to the property.
Councilor Soucy applauds the efforts of the Commission.
Councilor Cheney thanked Chairman Bald for the effort he has put in the past four years. Councilor
Cheney has faith that Councilor Kenney will do everything in his power to be sure that Laconia is well
represented.
Councilor Hamel thanked both Chairman Bald and Councilor Kenney. Councilor Hamel hopes the
Governor will take into consideration the hard work that the Commission has done in the past four
years. Councilor Hamel hopes the City and the Commission will still have a say on what happens
with that property. The City needs representation in Concord for Laconia.
Chairman Bald explained this property does not include Ahern State Park and the property across
the street on Opechee.
Mayor Hosmer stated an RFP did come out from Administrative Services looking for a broker to bid
on an opportunity to market this property. One of the lines that came out that Mayor Hosmer found
concerning was "the Department may direct the successful respondent to commence marketing the
property to suitable qualified buyers as soon as possible before the end of 2021 summer season.
With or without the regard to the mission findings or recommendations of the Lake Region Planning
Commission under RSA 10-5." This is what Laconia is up against right now.
9. CONSENT & ACTION ITEMS
10. CITIZEN COMMENTS FOR MATTERS NOT ON THE AGENDA
Dawn Johnson, State Representative - Mrs. Johnson wanted to make sure the Council received the flyers
and handouts that she left. She also thanked the two gentlemen that spoke on behalf of the State School.
9. CONSENT & ACTION ITEMS
10. CITIZEN COMMENTS FOR MATTERS NOT ON THE AGENDA
Dawn Johnson, State Representative - Mrs. Johnson wanted to make sure the Council received the flyers
and handouts that she left. She also thanked the two gentlemen that spoke on behalf of the State School.
She utilizes the walking trails up there and does not want to see that taken away. She also had a lot of
constituents reach out to her asking her to preserve that land.
Peter Brunette (Zoom in caller) Chair of Planning Board and part of the Master Plan Steering Committee -
Mr. Brunette spoke of the State School Property and he is appalled at the turn of events. He stated the
Commission has worked very hard to come up with the Master Plan. If the Governor intends to sell this off
as one parcel, the City needs to be heard. There have been discussions on how to bring water up to the
high points in that area. The State School is situated in an area that could benefit the neighboring homes by
bringing the infrastructure up to date. That site is in desperate need of complete replacement of water,
sewer, and storm drainage. These costs should not be at the City expense.
Gail Ober, Ward 5 - Vice Chair of the Zoning Board and member of the Master Plan Steering Committee -
the State School Property falls under the Performance Zone and therefore the Zoning Board has no input. It
falls solely on the Planning Board. Ms. Ober just wants to emphasize that the Zoning Board has no input.
11. INTERVIEWS
11.A. Michael Foote - Seeking reappointment to a regular member position on the
Conservation Commission for a three-year term expiring at the end of August, 2024
Michael Foote was interviewed.
11.B. Michael Foote - Seeking reappointment to a regular member position on the
Zoning Board of Adjustment for a three-year term expiring at the end of August,
2024
Michael Foote was interviewed.
12. NOMINATIONS, APPOINTMENTS & ELECTIONS
13. COMMUNICATIONS
14. PUBLIC HEARINGS
14.A. Public hearing pertaining to the declaration of a portion of Rotary Park as surplus
Notice of this public hearing was made available in the July 28, 2021 edition of the Laconia Daily
Sun, and posted at Laconia City Hall, Public Library, Community Center and the SAU.
Mayor Hosmer opened the public hearing at 7:46 pm
Gail Ober asked if the City declares this surplus, does this have to go through a bidding process?
Hearing no other comments from the public, Mayor Hosmer closed the public hearing at 7:47 pm.
15. MAYOR'S REPORT
Mayor Hosmer had no comment this evening.
16. COUNCIL COMMENTS
Councilor Felch stated that the 98th Annual Leavitt Park Carnival will be held on Saturday, August 21st from
3:00 pm to 6:00 pm.
16. COUNCIL COMMENTS
Councilor Felch stated that the 98th Annual Leavitt Park Carnival will be held on Saturday, August 21st from
3:00 pm to 6:00 pm.
Councilor Cheney asked for an update on the property on the corner of Rollercoaster Road and Parade
Road. He would also like to know who would be responsible for cutting back the growth at that same
intersection. Another intersection with overgrowth is Parade and Pickerel Pond Road. He would like to know
if the State would do the cut back or allow the City to take care of it.
Councilor Cheney also mentioned a letter that was received from the Kathy Ireland Organization and would
like some clarification to what it actually pertains to. Mayor Hosmer will follow up with the organization.
Councilor Haynes mentioned that he met with the City Manager this morning and wanted to congratulate
him on some of the out-sourced projects and that they look great.
Councilor Hamel spoke about the Colonial Theatre and the seven shows that took place last weekend. He
said he has not heard anything bad about the parking and it all went very well. He stated all the local
restaurants were booked solid.
Councilor Lipman echoed Councilor Hamel's sentiments.
17. COMMITTEE REPORTS
17.A. FINANCE (Lipman (Chair), Hamel, Cheney)
17.A.i. WOW Trail Funding
17.A.ii. Downtown TIF Financing
17.B. PUBLIC SAFETY (Cheney (Chair), Soucy, Lipman)
17.C. GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS & ORDINANCES (Soucy (Chair), Felch, Cheney)
17.C.i. Review of Chapter 167, Noise and Chapter 161 Licensing as it pertains to
outdoor sound equipment and loudspeakers
17.C.ii. Ordinance Amending Chapter 221, Vehicles and Traffic/Parking on Sublawns
17.C.iii. Procedural review of grant applications
17.C.iv. Regulation of Short Term Residential Rental Businesses
17.C.v. Proposed Historic Overlay District
17.C.vi. Scenic Road Motorcycle Noise Petition
17.C.vii. Use of public property by for-profit entities
17.D. LANDS & BUILDINGS (Hamel (Chair), Haynes, Felch)
17.D.i. Downtown parking garage
17.D.ii. Repair & maintenance of City buildings
17.D.iii. Perley Pond Maintenance
17.D.iv. Plan for the DPW Compound
17.D.ii. Repair & maintenance of City buildings
17.D.iii. Perley Pond Maintenance
17.D.iv. Plan for the DPW Compound
17.D.v. Continuation of the discussion regarding parking in the Lakeport area
17.E. PUBLIC WORKS (Haynes (Chair), Felch, Soucy)
17.E.i. Retaining Wall Policy
17.E.ii. Discussion for converting from a manual to an automated solid waste curbside
collection service
18. LIAISON REPORTS
19. CITIZENS REQUESTS TO COMMENT ON CURRENT AGENDA ITEMS
Sherri Bolduc - Admissions Representative for Empire Beauty School - She stated the students use the
parking garage as it is their only option for parking. There are eight faculty and staff and between 45 and 55
students throughout the year that use that garage and it would be detrimental if it was torn down.
20. CITY MANAGER'S REPORT
20.A. Financial and Operational Trends Report
City Manager Myers reviewed the report.
21. NEW BUSINESS
21.A. First reading of Resolution 2021-16, relative to authorizing application for a
$400,000 loan from the NH Clean Water State Revolving Loan Fund for the Elm
Street Sewer Project
City Manager Myers briefed the Council on this item. Extended bond terms will be looked into.
Councilor Cheney moved to waive a reading of this Resolution in its entirety and to read by title only,
seconded by Councilor Haynes; the motion passed with all in favor.
Councilor Felch moved a first reading of Resolution 2021-16, a Resolution authorizing application for
a $400,000 loan from the New Hampshire Clean Water State Revolving Loan Fund for the Elm Street
Sewer Project and appropriating funds for same, seconded by Councilor Cheney; the motion passed
with all in favor.
Councilor Haynes moved to schedule a public hearing on August 23, 2021 during the Regular Council
meeting to gather public input prior to any action being taken, seconded by Councilor Felch; the
motion passed with all in favor.
21.B. City Council options for Plantation and Colonial Roads
City Manager Myers briefed the Council on the background to this item. Service will not immediately
stop on these roads but a reasonable time frame will be given as to when it will stop.
Mayor Hosmer used to represent this area and is familiar with these two roads. Mayor Hosmer noted
that it is a norm after heavy rainfall there is significant run off on 11b.
Councilor Felch agrees that this needs to be looked into.
Councilor Hamel asked if there is a current owner of this road.
that it is a norm after heavy rainfall there is significant run off on 11b.
Councilor Felch agrees that this needs to be looked into.
Councilor Hamel asked if there is a current owner of this road.
City Manager Myers stated yes but back in the 1970's the Council's directive was to plow any roads
where people are living. Current law states public fund can not be expended on privately owned
roads. Where ownership was not identifiable, emergency lanes or "as-is" was used. City Manager
Myers explained this has not been discussed within the past year because we feel this will bring out
a lot of people to the meeting and felt that during the height of the pandemic was not the time to bring
in a large group, plus the Council was meeting virtually.
Councilor Soucy asked if notice would be given to the residents that June 1, 2024 would be the day
that the City no longer maintains the road.
City Manager Myers explained that is the plan to not stop services until June 1, 2024 in order to
allow plenty of time for them to form some sort of association.
Councilor Cheney moved to schedule a public hearing on the plan for Plantation and Colonial Roads
and on declaring the two roads emergency lanes for the temporary process for the proposed date of
June 1, 2024, seconded by Councilor Soucy; the motion passed with all in favor.
21.C. Request by the WOW Board to use City property
Councilor Haynes moved to approve the request from the WOW Board for the use of Opechee track,
parking lot, and WOW Trail on Friday, October 15, 2021 from 5:00 am to 4:00 pm for the 6th Annual
Pumpkin 5/10k fundraiser event, seconded by Councilor Hamel;
Councilor Lipman noted for the record that they are raising money to support the WOW Trail.
Mayor Hosmer called the question.
the motion passed with all in favor.
21.D. Application for tax relief under RSA 79-E for the property at 781 Union Ave
City Manager Myers briefed the Council on RSA 79-E.
Councilor Lipman moved to schedule a public hearing during the regular Council Meeting on August
23, 2021, to gather public input prior to any action being taken, seconded by Councilor Cheney; the
motion passed with all in favor.
21.E. Application for tax Relief under RSA 79-E for the property at 50 Church Street
Councilor Soucy moved to schedule a public hearing during the regular Council Meeting on August
23, 2021, to gather public input prior to any action being taken, seconded by Councilor Cheney; the
motion passed with all in favor.
21.F. Request to approve Temporary Traffic Order 2021-10, Triathlon
Councilor Soucy moved to approve Temporary Traffic Order 2021-10, Timberman, to be held on
August 22, 2021 as presented, seconded by Councilor Haynes;
Councilor Soucy asked if this follows the original plan?
City Manager Myers explained yes, but this is a learning curve and there will probably be some
moving parts on the day of the event.
Councilor Soucy thinks this a great event.
Councilor Hamel asked about the no parking on Beacon Street East. Will there be travel allowed?
City Manager Myers explained yes, but this is a learning curve and there will probably be some
moving parts on the day of the event.
Councilor Soucy thinks this a great event.
Councilor Hamel asked about the no parking on Beacon Street East. Will there be travel allowed?
City Manager Myers explained the reasoning for no parking is to allow for a travel lane and a lane for
bicycles.
Mayor Hosmer called the question.
the motion passed with all in favor.
22. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
22.A. Discussion on the parking garage
DPW Director Anderson brought the Council up to date on the current status of the parking garage.
Director Anderson stated the reason the second floor of the parking garage is still allowed to be used
is the amount of wood reinforcement that is being done for the structural steel. Every year a safety
inspection is done. The City is spending an average between $20,000 and $30,000 a year on
temporary repairs. Director Anderson stated at some point in the future the temporary repairs will not
be enough to maintain use of the garage. We are at the point now where the City needs to make a
decision if they want to deconstruct it or rehabilitate it. The 2019 estimate for rehabilitation was
$4,525,000 and deconstruct it about $2,000,000. Since the start of the pandemic there has been a
significant cost of materials and labor increase. The next annual safety inspection is scheduled for
September.
Mayor Hosmer explained the current state of the garage is the third deck can not be used at all and
not all the spaces can be used on the second floor.
Director Anderson stated the parking garage is structurally sound as long as it continues to be
cribbed. If we don't continue then it is not structurally sound to use.
Councilor Hamel explained he didn't call this as just a committee meeting, he wanted to the entire
Council to hear it from Director Anderson as a whole. Director Anderson provided a packet to the
Council and one for the record with pictures and explanations of the condition of the parking garage.
The Turner Group was also asked to come look at the garage. Councilor Hamel explained this has
been put off long enough and a decision needs to be made. Councilor Hamel thinks this needs to be
fixed. The City is in need of parking especially with the downtown bringing in more and more people.
Councilor Hamel also thinks paid parking needs to be looked at in the downtown area as well.
Councilor Lipman agrees with Councilor Hamel's position.
City Manager Myers explained to rehab the parking spaces will probably cost around $25,000 per
space. We also need to keep in mind the 18 spaces that were part of the deal with Rusty McClear
for the the condo units. Also the City Manager has been approached about leasing other parking
spaces in the downtown area.
Councilor Soucy asked if renovations were done, would the businesses be allowed to remain open
during construction. Councilor Hamel thinks that would be part of the plan to see how that could
happen.
Mayor Hosmer explained first impressions make a difference and the parking garage is the first thing
people see when coming downtown. Mayor Hosmer also expressed with the economic activity
happening downtown, the parking spaces are needed.
Councilor Felch reminded the Council about the report from Dubois and King that came out a few
years ago.
Councilor Haynes wants to make sure the public is well educated of the cost. If we deconstruct the
happening downtown, the parking spaces are needed.
Councilor Felch reminded the Council about the report from Dubois and King that came out a few
years ago.
Councilor Haynes wants to make sure the public is well educated of the cost. If we deconstruct the
parking garage, what happens then? And what happens to the businesses?
Director Anderson explained the lease agreement states the City is responsible for maintaining the
roof. The lease would need to be renegotiated if the parking garage was deconstructed and the roof
replaced to state this is now your roof. In order to take the entire thing down to the ground, the City
would need to purchase the building it sits on.
City Manager Myers suggested using the estimated numbers from 2019 rather than delaying the
process. In the last year, we now have the Busiel Mansion on the tax roll, the condos above the
Theatre and the four store fronts coming on the tax roll and soon the old Holy Trinity School building
coming on the tax roll. In new assessment numbers are throwing out some more money. These are
some of the reasons the City invested in the Colonial, to help with debt service. It won't cover it all but
it will help.
Mayor Hosmer thinks it is critically important to give the public ample opportunity to give input as this
could be a significant expenditure. We need to provide good data and make it completely
transparent.
City Manager Myers stated if there is consensus of the Council to rehabilitate the parking garage, a
precise package will be put together and presented to be completely transparent. This could be
placed on the next agenda and referred to a public hearing and formal action by the end of
September.
Mayor Hosmer would like to see us go above and beyond when it comes to allowing the public to
speak on this item.
Councilor Lipman thinks there are three important factors: What does this do to my tax bill? What
does it mean for parking? And, what will we have to give up for this project?
Councilor Hamel asked the Mayor to see if there is consensus of the Council to move forward.
Councilor Cheney supports the rehabilitation of the parking garage but does not want to drag this out
as the interest rates will now remain as low as they are now. He said a couple interest points could
save the tax payers money by getting a lower interest rate now rather than a couple months from
now. Councilor Cheney would like to see the paper do a write up and maybe have the radio stations
talk about it.
Mayor Hosmer asked the Council if there is consensus, based on the numbers from 2019 and
figuring in inflation and to add the packet to the August 23rd agenda with referral to a public hearing
at the first meeting in September.
There is consensus from the Council to move forward as the Mayor just presented.
22.B. Request to approve the declaration of a portion of Rotary Park as surplus
Mayor Hosmer moved this item to be discussed before 22A.
City Manager Myers explained that declaring surplus does not require a sale. This also does not
require it to go out to bid.
Councilor Hamel asked if this is declared surplus, does the Council have the right to decide if this is
a sale, license, or lease?
City Manager Myers explained if the Council decides not to declare this as surplus, then nothing
moves forward. If the Council decides to declare this surplus then the Council can direct the City
Manager to form a lease agreement or license agreement and bring that document back to Council
Councilor Hamel asked if this is declared surplus, does the Council have the right to decide if this is
a sale, license, or lease?
City Manager Myers explained if the Council decides not to declare this as surplus, then nothing
moves forward. If the Council decides to declare this surplus then the Council can direct the City
Manager to form a lease agreement or license agreement and bring that document back to Council
for further approval.
Councilor Lipman moved to approve a portion of Rotary Park, the property in proximity to the patio
outside The Powerhouse of the Belknap Mill as surplus, seconded by Councilor Soucy; the motion
passed with all in favor.
which gives the Council several options available to them including licensing or leasing the requested
land as opposed to a direct sale, seconded by Councilor Soucy; the motion passed with all in
favor.
Councilor Lipman moved to direct the City Manager to bring back an option to the Council other than
a sale, in the form of a license or lease with an adequate term to suit both parties, seconded by
Councilor Haynes;
Councilor Lipman assumes the license or lease would state the conditions on what will be done with
that footprint.
City Manager Myers confirmed.
Mayor Hosmer called the question;
the motion passed with all in favor.
23. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
23.A. Master Plan
23.B. Milfoil Treatment funding requests
23.C. Sewer & Water Master Plan
23.D. Single Stream Recycling/Concord Co-op/Solid Waste disposal cost reductions
23.E. Strategic Planning/Goal Setting
23.F. WOW Trail
23.G. Weirs Beach Restoration Project
23.H. Fair St/Court St traffic problems and accidents
24. Any other business that may come before the Council
25. NON-PUBLIC SESSION (According to RSA 91-A:3, II)
26. ADJOURNMENT
With no further business to come before the Council and hearing no objection, Mayor Hosmer adjourned the
meeting at 9:00 pm.
Respectfully submitted
Cheryl Hebert, City Clerk
Respectfully submitted
Cheryl Hebert, City Clerk
MINUTES OF THIS MEETING WERE APPROVED BY COUNCIL ON AUGUST 23, 2021
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