City Council
Regular MeetingLaconia, NH · March 13, 2023
Minutes
Minutes were approved on April 10, 2023.
CITY OF LACONIA - CITY COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING
PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE
6:00 P.M.
3/13/2023 - Minutes
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Haynes called the meeting to order at 6:03 PM
2. SALUTE TO THE FLAG
Chairman Haynes led the salute to the flag
3. RECORDING SECRETARY
Katie Gargano, City Clerk
4. ROLL CALL
Clerk Gargano called the roll of the following councilors: Chairman Haynes, Councilor Felch, Councilor
Soucy via Zoom.
Councilor Soucy confirmed he was out of the Country on Business and was in the room alone. Since
Councilor Soucy participated via zoom, all votes during this meeting will be done by roll call vote.
5. STAFF IN ATTENDANCE
City Manager Kirk Beattie and DPW Director Wes Anderson
6. ACCEPTANCE OF MINUTES FROM PREVIOUS MEETINGS
6.A. Approval of draft Public Works Subcommittee minutes of August 25, 2022
Minutes of the Public Works Subcommittee meeting of August 25, 2022 were distributed to the
Subcommittee members on August 26, 2022.
With no corrections or changes submitted, the minutes were accepted as distributed.
7. PUBLIC WORKS (Haynes (Chair), Felch, Soucy)
7.A. Proposed changes to the City's Code of Ordinances, Chapter 189, Sewers
In 2022 Public Works proposed a change to the City’s Sewer Ordinance so that the Ordinance and
the system itself would meet the City’s Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Permit and align
with the Winnipesaukee River Basin Program (WRBP) sewer use rules and NH Department of
Environmental Services’ suggested model sewer ordinance. The sewer collection system in the City,
both public and private, must meet the permit’s requirements, WRBP rules and NH DES
requirements.
On March 28, 2022, the City Council held a public hearing on the proposed changes to the City’s
Sewer Ordinance. The public hearing was continued to date to be determined by the Council.
Part of the Council’s guidance after the public hearing was for Public Works to develop a proposal for
both public and private, must meet the permit’s requirements, WRBP rules and NH DES
requirements.
On March 28, 2022, the City Council held a public hearing on the proposed changes to the City’s
Sewer Ordinance. The public hearing was continued to date to be determined by the Council.
Part of the Council’s guidance after the public hearing was for Public Works to develop a proposal for
the Sanitary Sewer Fund to pay for and coordinate the cleaning and inspection of the private sewers.
The owners of private sewer systems would be responsible for meeting the remaining EPA
requirements.
The City Council, as part of the sewer rate increase approved on February 13, 2023, funded the
cleaning and inspection program for private sewers beginning in FY2025. The inspection program,
however, is only one of the tasks that must be performed by collection system owners.
The following are the EPA permit requirements for public and private sewer system owners:
• Adequate maintenance staff to carry out operations and maintenance
• Preventative maintenance program to prevent overflows and bypasses. Shall include an inspection
program designed to identify all potential and actual unauthorized discharges and pump stations
shall have an alternate power source in the event of a power failure.
• Shall control inflow and infiltration
• Collection system mapping
• Operation and maintenance plan
• Reporting sewer spills/overflows
• Annual reporting
The proposed changes to the ordinance will establish the following responsibilities.
In addition to incorporating the requirements of the WRBP’s sewer rules (Env- Wq 1200), the
changes add definitions, update design standards and the City’s sewer connection permit
requirements. The updates also include:
• Clarification on the 15% sewer surcharge for connections outside City limits to conform with
existing intermunicipal agreements.
• A provision requiring the developer of a proposed sewer extension to analyze the capability of the
existing system to accept a development’s proposed flows.
Due to the extent of the changes, Public Works is proposing to change the Ordinance in its entirety.
Director Anderson began the discussion by stating that the process of this began over 2 years ago.
The requirement that is imposed upon the City by the environmental agency is that the collection
system in the City must meet the terms in the permit. The terms specified state that it doesn’t
matter if it is public or private but the system as a whole. The terms are listed within the attachment
on the agenda. Director Anderson stated what they are. Most municipalities who have met the terms
of their permit have changed their ordinance to state the private collection must meet the same
terms as the public collections so that every time the EPA changes the terms, they do not have to
change to ordinance. The attachment also includes who would be responsible for what. Most of the
time private collections are from condo associations or a developer who is renting out the units on a
property. There is a 15% surcharge for those who are outside of the city limits that are receiving
sewer service from the City. Any developer also has to ensure that whatever system they use that
would connect to the city system are compatible and support each other. He is hoping to have this
as a public hearing sometime in June or July to get the most amount of the public to comment on
this. Lastly, at a public hearing for this it was tabled to a meeting to be determined in the future and
he would like for that to finally take place.
time private collections are from condo associations or a developer who is renting out the units on a
property. There is a 15% surcharge for those who are outside of the city limits that are receiving
sewer service from the City. Any developer also has to ensure that whatever system they use that
would connect to the city system are compatible and support each other. He is hoping to have this
as a public hearing sometime in June or July to get the most amount of the public to comment on
this. Lastly, at a public hearing for this it was tabled to a meeting to be determined in the future and
he would like for that to finally take place.
Councilor Felch asked if Belmont does the cleaning and inspections? They do not. The next
question is if they cannot spend tax money on roads, how can they spend it on sewer. Director
Anderson has that question out to the law office to get clarification but essentially its not tax payer
money, it is rate payor money.
Councilor Cheney thinks that should a problem be found during the inspection process, he wants to
make sure that they are aggressive in making them fix the problem. He also states that he wants to
make sure that the city is doing the inspection if these people are paying for sewer.
Chairman Haynes wants to make sure that the condo associations or business know their
expectations with the proposed sewer ordinance changes. It will vary to association to association.
Some are doing everything they are supposed to where others are not. They will be working on
getting contact information for all the various associations and businesses. Manager Beattie thinks
it’s very doable to make sure it included to require up to date contact information and have it so they
are updated always if it changes. The master alarm ordinance already requires this.
Councilor Soucy agrees with what has already been discussed.
Councilor Felch made a motion that the Public Works Committee ask the City Council to schedule a
continuation of the public hearing on the proposed Sewer Ordinance for July 24, 2023. Seconded by
Councilor Soucy. Discussion: None.
By Roll Call Vote:
Councilor Soucy: Yes Councilor Haynes: Yes
Councilor Felch: Yes
The motion passed with all in favor.
7.B. Request for City Council guidance on the Council's method for apportioning costs
to abutters for a private road accepted as a City public street through the
betterment process
Public Works asks the Public Works Subcommittee to develop a recommendation for the City’s
Council’s consideration and decision on how to apportion costs associated with the betterment
process.
There are private roads that the City has been plowing that cannot participate in the accept “as-is”
process based on a City Council decision. They can, however, become a private road through the
betterment process. Under this process the abutting property owners pay back the City the costs of
bringing a private road up to City standards so that it can be accepted as a public road. Per state
law the abutters must pay back the City over a period of not more than 10 years. The City Council
has traditionally required that all abutters agree to participate in the process before initiating the
betterment process to accept a private road as a public street. The City Council can apportion the
costs based on the number of lots, lot size, lot frontage or a combination of the three.
Two sets of private roads are considering participating in a betterment process that have a mixture of
small and large lots. Thus, the method of apportioning costs is a consideration for property owners
on whether they want to participate or not.
The abutters along Prescott Ave and Paugus Ave in the Christmas Island area are considering
whether to petition the City Council to accept these two roads through the betterment process. The
condominium association, The Lake Houses at Christmas Island, has asked City staff how the City
Council intends to apportion the betterment costs before they make a decision to support the
petition. The Association is one of the largest lots and has the most frontage on Prescott Ave which
means their share of the cost of the project will vary depending on the Council’s concept for
The abutters along Prescott Ave and Paugus Ave in the Christmas Island area are considering
whether to petition the City Council to accept these two roads through the betterment process. The
condominium association, The Lake Houses at Christmas Island, has asked City staff how the City
Council intends to apportion the betterment costs before they make a decision to support the
petition. The Association is one of the largest lots and has the most frontage on Prescott Ave which
means their share of the cost of the project will vary depending on the Council’s concept for
apportioning costs. One factor that is impacting their decision is that the City has a pump station
just west of their property, and the Association’s leadership believes that the City will plow enough of
Prescott Ave to be able to access the pump station if the abutters decide not to participate in the
betterment process. Public Works plowing to the pump station also plows past their driveway
entrances.
There is no option that is going to satisfy every abutter.
Background on Prescott Ave that is necessary for the discussion:
Abutters – 28
Frontage varies from 1 foot to 425 feet
Acreage varies from 0.05 acres to 4.2 acres
Staff recommends that the Subcommittee discuss and make a recommendation to the City Council.
Director Anderson began the discussion. Currently DPW has been plowing the two roads Prescott
Ave and Paugus Ave. Lake House Condominiums did research and found out that the streets had
been given to the abutting property owners. The plan was based off of that knowledge was to go
through the betterment process to make those public streets where they pay over 10 years the cost
back to the City of bringing the streets up to city standards. There were 3 meetings to explain the
process to them and about a month ago, a request made by the Lake Houses to find out how the
cost would be split amongst the various property owners that abut the roads. After doing research to
what the ordinance and laws states, it comes down to 3 options or a combination of the three.
1. Based of the lots. If you have 15 lots, spread it across the 15.
2. Based on frontage of the road.
3. How much acreage each abutter has.
He continues to say that he is looking for guidance to start the process and see how the fees would
be distributed to give the guidance back to the requestors. Papers were handed out to the
subcommittee to show the difference between the lots and their acreage versus frontage on the
streets. One lot has frontage of about 1 foot where another has frontage of about 440 feet. After the
subcommittee makes its recommendation and the City Council makes its decision, all of the
abutters have to agree as a whole. If one backs out, this process doesn’t happen according to the
current city ordinance.
Councilor Felch asked if it could still be done with out all of the abutting property owners agreeing.
Director Anderson stated that is up to the Council. They are the ones who have established the rules
they are going by, where the law states it can be the majority to vote yes. Councilor Felch asked if
any other towns/cities gone through this process. The City of Laconia has done this before but it was
lot based. But the lots are not the same size this time which is prompting this conversation.
Councilor Soucy asked is all the roads would benefit from this and what needs to be done to the
roads. The answer is that they will receive city service at the full city level once they become an
official city street. On Prescott Ave the improvements needed are drainage, the road base and
thickness of the asphalt might be insufficient. On Paugus Ave, the current street is basically a trail.
Most of the city equipment cannot get down this road because it is too narrow. It will have to be
rebuilt from scratch either up to a gravel road or asphalt road. Councilor Soucy asked the City
Manager if once the improvements of the roads are complete if the resale values of the homes on
that road will increase. Manager Beattie states the assessment would not change but it could help
the property owners’ values in resale knowing that it is maintained by the city and receives trash
pickup. Councilor Soucy wanted to know if Director Anderson has had any meetings with the
abutters and what the cost potentially could be for all of this. Yes there have been meetings and
Most of the city equipment cannot get down this road because it is too narrow. It will have to be
rebuilt from scratch either up to a gravel road or asphalt road. Councilor Soucy asked the City
Manager if once the improvements of the roads are complete if the resale values of the homes on
that road will increase. Manager Beattie states the assessment would not change but it could help
the property owners’ values in resale knowing that it is maintained by the city and receives trash
pickup. Councilor Soucy wanted to know if Director Anderson has had any meetings with the
abutters and what the cost potentially could be for all of this. Yes there have been meetings and
questions from Lake Houses and Christmas Island but no estimates have been made. Director
Anderson also clarifies for Councilor Soucy that the city council goes by 100% approval where the
law states it can be the majority.
Attorney Ed Philpot came to the committee to ask a few questions on behalf of the lake houses.
They have been told or it has been suggested to them that they get one vote because they are one
property owner but they would be responsible for the 18 different lots that they have. How many
homes would be considered to be abutting Prescott Ave for the purpose of sharing the expenses?
They believe it is 3. Secondly, if they are going to be asked to pay for 18 shares, they want 18 votes.
Which way does it go? Wes explains that it’s the association that is the abutter and they would be
responsible for figuring out how to divide the cost amongst the association.
Councilor Felch asked for more information for other cities and towns who have gone through a
similar process to see how they handled it. Director Anderson states they he can do that to give
them the options.
Chairman Haynes asked if there were any objections to asking DPW Director Wes to gather more
information from other cities and towns before the subcommittee came to a recommendation for the
Council. Councilor Soucy and Felch had no objections to this.
7.C. Automated Solid Waste Collection update
Request that the Public Works Committee review the proposed changes to the City’s solid waste
Ordinance and recommend that the City Council approve the changes to the Ordinances.
The changes include the following:
· Eliminates the requirements for households and commercial properties to provide their own cans
and the size requirements for those cans.
· Adds the requirement that solid waste containers provided as part of the conversion to automated
collection belong to the City and remain with the property whenever the property is sold or a tenant
relocates.
· Adds the requirement that properties with dumpsters will not receive City curbside collection
services. · Eliminates the remote recycling program.
· Changes the maximum quantity of containers based on the standard container sizes the City is
providing to property owners.
· Eliminates the excess trash sticker program that allowed a single-family resident to put out an
extra solid waste container for a fee. Public Works recommends that the Public Works
Subcommittee recommend that the City Council approve the proposed changes to the Solid Waste
Ordinance that is attached.
Eliminates the cost of providing containers and collecting solid waste from properties with
dumpsters.
Director Anderson began the discussion: The council has already agreed to part of it which is the
distribution based on occupancy. No containers if you have a dumpster, eliminates the remote
recycling, eliminates the excess trash sticker program. The cost of keeping the excess trash sticker
program would depend on Casella. Councilor Felch proposed allowing a property to lease another
container for a number of months or a year instead of keeping the excess trash program. Director
Anderson’s issue on this is depending on the number of stops could cause them to use a second
truck which would drastically increase the cities cost for collection. Councilor Soucy mentioned that
he thought that the council already decided on the distribution of containers. Director Anderson
explains that as of right now to control costs, the excess trash program is only available to single
distribution based on occupancy. No containers if you have a dumpster, eliminates the remote
recycling, eliminates the excess trash sticker program. The cost of keeping the excess trash sticker
program would depend on Casella. Councilor Felch proposed allowing a property to lease another
container for a number of months or a year instead of keeping the excess trash program. Director
Anderson’s issue on this is depending on the number of stops could cause them to use a second
truck which would drastically increase the cities cost for collection. Councilor Soucy mentioned that
he thought that the council already decided on the distribution of containers. Director Anderson
explains that as of right now to control costs, the excess trash program is only available to single
family homes. So if extra containers are then made available to everyone then that is what is going
to drive the cost for the city. Currently the same small group of people are the ones using this
program.
Councilor Soucy made a motion that the Public Works Subcommittee recommend that the City
Council approve the proposed changes to the Solid Waste Ordinance as presented. Seconded by
Councilor Felch Discussion: None.
By Roll Call Vote:
Councilor Soucy: Yes Councilor Haynes: Yes
Councilor Felch: Yes
The motion passed with all in favor.
7.D. Discussion regarding the City's retaining wall policy
Director Anderson states that the retaining wall has to be within the right of way or it has to be on
the boundary. The policy was that the city would pick up 50% of the cost and the other party will
pick up the other 50%. In exchange a waiver is signed stating it is no longer the cities responsibility
from there on and they take the lead. They get the contractor to do the work to omit the city from
being involved if they are not happy with the work.
The consensus is agreement among the subcommittee.
8. Any other business that may come before the Committee
9. ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Haynes adjourned the meeting at 6:50 PM.
Respectfully Submitted,
Katie Gargano, City Clerk
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