Planning Board
Regular MeetingLaconia, NH · May 6, 2014
Minutes
Laconia Planning Board Minutes May 6, 2014
Approved July 1, 2014
Present: W. Hutchins, Chairman; W. Contardo, Vice Chair; J. Mailloux, Secretary; G. Denio, L.
Guild, J. Tivnan, C. Smith, D. Vachon, H. McLean, D. Bownes
Absent: B. Baer, D. Richards
Staff: S. Saunders, B. Loughlin
I. Call to Order
W. Hutchins called the meeting to order at 6:30 pm. He named C. Smith as a voting member in
D. Richard’s absence.
II. Continued Public Hearings
1. Appl# PL2011-0082SP amendment
193 Endicott St North Map/Lot 156-252-13
Cumberland Farms
Proposal to remove the vacuum sensor system from the fuel dispensing system, system will still
be monitored with a liquid sensor system
(This item is a continuation from Oct 4, 2011)
W. Hutchings noted the applicant requested a continuance.
Motion: D. Vachon made the motion to continue the application to June 3 and L. Guild
seconded the motion. H. McLean asked if that is going to affect the system and was told no. The
applicant needs to get their response to Staff in time to be put into the packets. The Board does
not want to have to look at something right before the meeting. There was discussion about the
continuance. H. McLean disagrees with the continuance. S. Saunders said communication
between the applicant and Staff has been lax therefore, asked for the maintenance plan. That
way there can be more communication. The applicant is not in violation of any laws. The motion
passed unanimously.
III. Public Hearings
1. Sign Ordinance revision to the City Zoning Ordinance section 235-51, the purpose is to amend
the ordinance to keep up with new sign technology
(Recommendation to Council)
W. Hutchins noted that this had gone through many meetings before going to the Board. The
Board will either approve the draft or not, then the revisions recommended to council and a
decision made.
S. Perley, the chair of the Zoning Task Force (ZTF), said the Board listened to the input from the
last meeting and made changes. The major change was the overall size of the electronic area:
that changed from 50% to 75%. Electronic signs would be allowed everywhere by special
exception. H. McLean asked about the political signs and was told they need to be taken down
after the election. He also asked where the enforcement lies and S. Saunders said that lies with
the Zoning in the ordinance.
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Public: Jeff Flanders, Byse Agency owner, applauds the ZTF for all the work they have done. He
is looking forward to this being accepted and is in full support. He would like a tweak on the
change of the time limit from the 5 minutes to 1 minute, but overall is happy with the change.
Steve Weeks Sr, would still would like to see the time limit changed. He feels a sign is for
bringing people in to a business and the time should be 30 seconds to one minute max. He
thinks the idea is to increase business, not decrease it. He feels electronic signs should be
permitted and not permitted by special exception.
Ben Barr, of Watchfire Signs, lives in Gilmanton and works for Watchfire. He said usually the
challenge is the message. On federal highways, the signs are permitted to change every 15
seconds. Plaza or shopping centers usually change every 5 minutes. Studies have been compiled
at Penn state and Texas A&M recently on signage. If it is safe for signs so change when traveling
50 mph down a highway, then it is safe at 30 mph. W. Contardo asked what the site distance
was on the highway and was told a quarter mile. D. Bownes asked the rationale of the 5 min and
B. Barr said they will not all change at the same time. S. Saunders didn’t want the flashing effect
of the one minute, especially down Union Ave. There is a difference with highway travel vs other
travel: the highway travels in one direction whereas other roads have pedestrians and other
obstacles as well as oncoming traffic. B. Barr said no sign company has ever been before court
for distractions. People seem to be more aware when things are changing. For example Las Vega
and Time Square in NY have lots of signs and there have been no accidents due to distractions
from signs. Usually it is one minute for one message.
S. Perley noted that on page 7, part 3, “Minimum Display Time: All illumination elements on the
face of electronic changing signs shall remain at a fixed level of illumination for a period of not
less than five minutes” she noticed that the word static should be added. The idea is to start
with the 5 minute change and see how it goes, if changes are needed then it can be. If the time
change starts at one minute it cannot go back up to 5 minutes. D. Bownes sees the point but the
business owners want more of an audience. D. Vachon asked about the billboard in Belmont on
Rte 3 around Barons Major Brands, and was told that time change is 8 seconds. S. Perley said
that is a dynamic sign. Thinks business owners have a point since they are spending the money.
J. Mailloux likes the Platinum Salon’s sign, and that’s not electronic at all. S. Saunders said in the
Master Plan it calls for community character.
John Moriarty, of the Downtown Mains Street Initiative, said he wasn’t going to speak at all,
but as a business and property owner of downtown, he thinks the concept of the community
character is good but not in every situation. He owns a building with 17 businesses and one
thing that drives him nuts is all the sandwich boards on the side of the road. His tenants have
asked about the digital reader board and he is thinking about it. The downtown area has 3
districts and there is a big difference on what is and isn’t allowed. The ZTF has done a nice job
with the ordinance but he would endorse a one minute change. He feels this ordinance revision
is a step forward no matter what.
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W. Hutchins reminded the Board that the time change can be less at a later time if need be. W.
Hutchins said he believes in evolution and would vote the 5 minutes just to see what happens.
R. Dyer would go for the one or 5 minutes. He think it’s a good idea and overdue. It is at the
Board’s discretion, but thinks it will eventually end up at one minute.
W. Hutchins closed the public hearing.
D. Bownes asked what the process of changing the 5 minute change to 4 or one minute long and
S. Saunders said a substantial change from 5 to one would need a new noticed public hearing,
but 5 minutes to 4 minutes wouldn’t need one.
Motion: J. Mailloux made the motion to recommend the changes in the sign ordinance as
drafted to Council, with the minor correction on pg 7, part 3, to add the word static. D. Vachon
seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously.
The Board thanked S. Perley for all her work.
2. Appl#PL2014-0049SU, 0050SP
1184-1188 Weirs Blvd MBL 162-248-2
Proposal to change the form of ownership to condominium & construct one 3-story building
with 3 units
(Acceptance & Decision)
B. Loughlin told the Board the application was complete and ready for hearing.
Peter Howard of Steve Smith & Associates, Denis Bourque, the property owner, and Rod Dyer,
the attorney, was present. P. Howard presented the application. The parcel is a .91 acre lot in
the Commercial Resort zone. In 2009 the same application went through the Zoning and Site
Plan process. Landscaping and the 3 units were the only things that didn’t get finished. The
approval was revoked due to not meeting deadlines. The parking area, building units 1-8, rain
gardens, and drainage are all complete. Only units 9-11 and the landscaping around that
proposal have not been completed. The plans are identical to what was approved in 2009. The
applicant is back to get re-approved.
R. Dyer introduced Kathrine Lacy, a legal intern about to graduate, that will be the newest in the
firm. This applicant has been before the Planning Board and was approved for condo
conversion. The condo declarations have been submitted and suggestions were made and those
also changed. The current version of the declaration has all that Staff asked for. The project is
substantially complete.
Staff Review: B. Loughlin read the staff report. Staff recommends approval with conditions. The
major to eliminate the use of Phosphorus fertilizers mixes on Page 4 of the site plan under
“Temporary and winter control specifications” item number 4. The middle number should read
zero not 10. Eliminate the use of Phosphorus fertilizer mixes on Page 6 listed under the heading
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“Construction Notes” item number 6. The middle number should read zero not 20, add a note to
the site plan: “During construction use at least 12-inch silt sock on site”, parking shall not be
permitted on the north parking access driveway. Applicant must install signage to indicate no
parking in these areas. Site plan should reflect this. All Milfoil located around docking structures
must be documented per Zoning Ordinance 235-19(F)(5)(d). The Impact Fee will be $5,222.07
for the 3 new units. D. Bownes asked why there is no dumpster and was told that was discussed
at the conceptual review. D. Richards was concerned about the trash cans and D. Bourque said
after that meeting he posted a requirement that trash cans be brought in and also put that in
the condo docs. W. Hutchins asked about parking during construction. D. Bourque said there is
more than what is needed for parking and he also owns the rest across the street. If need be,
tenants can park there. The Board doesn’t want on-street parking. C. Smith asked P. Howard
where the snow storage would be and P. Howard said there is a note on the plan and written in
the declaration that snow will be removed if there is too much.
Abutters: none
Public: none
W. Hutchins closed the public hearing.
Motion: D. Bownes made the motion to approve the application with the conditions and dates
for the Plan Revisions June 6, 2014, Site Improvement Security and Mylar, final plans July 6,
2014, and Completion May 6, 2015, with the Impact Fee of $5222.07 D. Vachon seconded the
motion. The motion passed unanimously.
W. Hutchins is pleased with the work that has been done and the improvement to the property
so far. He thanks D. Bourque for that.
IV. Extensions
None
V. Application Acceptance
None
VI. New Business
W. Hutchins noted that since D. Richards is the head of the nominations and was not present,
the process will be completed at the next meeting. Current officers are willing to extend again.
Per Rsa 673:9, in the officious, can’t be chair and you have to be a fulltime member to seat.
VII. Old Business
None
VIII. Reports
A. Planning Department Report: S. Saunders
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S. Saunders asked the Board to hand in the Cumberland Farms part of their packet for the next
meeting. J. Mailloux requested Cumberland Farms submit more up to date work orders, and DES
reports. The Main Street Bridge construction is in process. They cut back daily updates to weekly
updates. The Down Town folks are happy with the updates. The construction is right on
schedule. The Union Ave construction is moving along as well. They are moving along with the
riverwalk information like engineering and cost figures and design. She hopes to be before
Council in the next few months. They are continuing to work with Chinburg as well. The site on
Endicott near the Waterslide will be used for bike week and the developer would like to do
something eventually. S. Saunders was excited about two projects coming up soon: the
Architectural ordinance is nearing completion. The ordinance finished under a grant and that is
up by June. Hoping the board will do a work session on May 20 to go over it. She heard people
don’t want to be told what they have to have so there will be a list and applicants will have to
get certain points from the list, so there can be some flexibility. The pub hearing would have to
be scheduled for the June meeting. D. Bownes asked if this would have to go to council and S.
Saunders said they will be included into the regulations. But, it will only apply to certain zones,
so that part will need to go to Council for approval. The work session will be a public meeting
but not legal public hearing. Funding came from NH Housing as the community planning grant, a
nonprofit entity. There will be a work session May 20 at 5 pm. We received contact from the
Orton Foundation to complete the grant and would like to support us, and agreed to provide the
city with $75,000 in tech support for the Master Plan. She reached out to the NH Charitable
foundation and was granted $20,000. S. Saunders reached out to the Carsey Institute, which
facilitates the NH Listens and Lakes Region Listens programs, and agreed to give $25,000 for
community forums and listening sessions. The focus was on the 3 pieces required by state
statute. Then focus on a number of the Master Plan that may be included, like transportation,
public spaces and infrastructure, economic development and historic and eve resources. It is a
collaborative effort and scope of services that will be signed on to. Orton is the consultant and
will be working with the City. W. Contardo thinks a focus on utilities would help the
development of the community. They have been trying to develop who the communities are.
S. Saunders wondered if the Board could help fill in the folks that have been missed from the
Community Network Analysis. She is looking at stakeholders and groups in the City and how
communication can best be conveyed with the groups. Some suggestions were: Kiwanis Group,
Masons, theatrical groups (not just in Laconia), Franklin Footlights, Community college, Laconia
Faith group, church groups, local youths (girl scouts, boy scouts, etc.), Industrial bus parks, and
the Airport. S. Saunders asked how different things are communicated and suggestions were:
Associations, also Don Richards would know more since he deals with a lot of groups with
meetings in the Community Center, Dunkin Donuts, My Coffee House, McDonalds, Country
Clubs, grocery stores, and home improvement stores. D. Bownes asked when the last Master
Plan was and S. Saunders said dated in 2007 but work was started in 2003. The Master Plan is
not binding. The Master Plan is important because developers want to know that what they
want to do is supported. C. Smith suggested getting Russ Thibeault’s presentation from the OEP
conference from the past weekend. S. Saunders got back to the questions. There were websites
developed and emails went out. C. Smith asked why Planning Board meetings aren’t televised
and was told it has been admin decision but might soon change. More suggestions: Facebook,
Belknap County Bar Association, Garden Clubs, Laconia Links, and The Daily Sun. S. Saunders
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asked that if the Board had more ideas in the future, to please let her know. The survey went
fantastic and she thanked the board. There is a meeting this week to set up a communications
workshop. W. Hutchins suggested contacting Jeff Hayes form the LRPC. S. Saunders will be at
the May 12 Council meeting for the budget between 6 and7 pm. She would like support from
the board. D. Bownes would like a short memo, if that is feasible, about the architecture
ordinance and the grants. Something to state where they came from to make sure the Council
knows about it.
IX. Liaison Reports
A. Lakes Region Planning Commission: W. Hutchins mentioned the Tea Party group still comes
in to record the meetings. The focus is to meet deadlines for the Lakes Region plan which is
funded by the Federal Government. There is so much to the Master Plan and a lot of changes
are taking place. The annual meeting of the LRPC is June 16. Economic development will be
discussed. The city will pay for members if they want to go. S. Saunders mentioned LRPC is
also moving forward with the Brownsfield funds. There is an EPA grant for assessments.
Laconia will be getting more assessments done and she may ask if Board knows of any
properties. LRPC will be involved in the gasoline additive. Laconia Water nipped the MTBE
contaminate in the bud and the City isn’t aware of any issues and may not be eligible to get
any funds.
B. Conservation Commission: W. Contardo noted the ConCom is starting phase 1 of the Black
Brook Geomorphic study. May 20 they are meeting with Gilford ConCom for support. They are
working with Girl Scouts at the transfer station to plant shrubs and trees as part of the Wildlife
Habitat Restoration project. There is a refresher on shoreland protection on May 7. S.
Saunders noted there was an article on the Emerald Ash Borer in the packets.
C. City Council: D. Bownes said Council is in the middle of the budget. City council is less than
enthusiastic for anything to be done with Main Street at this point. He thinks there is a new
citywide assessment re-evaluation of all the properties. They are currently hearing
presentations from all the Depts. W. Hutchins said they just had a re-assessment a few years
ago and coming from a developer’s stand point, it’s never ending and D. Bownes will look into
that.
X. Other Business
XI. Minutes
Approval of the minutes from May 6. There were no minutes to approve.
XII. Adjournment
Motion: D. Bownes made the motion to adjourn and H. McLean seconded the motion.
The meeting adjourned at 8:29 pm.
Respectfully,
K. Graham`
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