Planning Board
Regular MeetingLaconia, NH · October 3, 2023
Minutes
CITY OF LACONIA PLANNING BOARD
6:30 PM City Hall - Armand A. Bolduc Council Chamber
Accepted November 6, 2023
10/3/2023 - Minutes
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Charlie St. Clair called the meeting to order at 6:31 PM
2. ROLL CALL
Members present: Amy Lovisek, Rob Mora, Rich MacNeill, Bruce Cheney, Mike DellaVecchia, Louis
Joseph, Tyler Carmicheal, Charlie St. Clair
Absent: Stacy Soucy, Gail Ober, Scott McWilliam
3. RECORDING SECRETARY
Kalena Graham
4. STAFF IN ATTENDANCE
Planning Director Kathy Menici
5. ACCEPTANCE OF MINUTES FROM PREVIOUS MEETINGS
5.I. Acceptance of September 5 & 19 minutes
Motion to accept the minutes made by R. Mora, L. Joseph seconded. All voted in favor.
6. CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARINGS, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE VOTE Note: The purpose of this
agenda section is for the Board to continue the Public Hearing for the applicant and the public to provide
input. The Board may also deliberate the application, decide and conduct a final vote at this time.
6.I. Rules of Procedure draft changes
On a motion from R. Mora, seconded by A. Lovisek, item 6.I moved to the end of the public hearings.
The Rules & Procedures will also be at the November 6 meeting.
6.II. PL2021-0113SP; 18 Endicott St N, North Water Marine; request to extend the approved completion
deadline to reconstruct storage building on lot 10
Motion to accept the application as complete made by M. DellaVecchia, T. Carmicheal seconded. All
voted in favor.
Applicant: Mike McKeown representing North Water Marine addressed the board. He asked if he could
present both applications as it is all one large project on two lots. He gave a brief presentation and
history of the approvals and where the project stands. The emergency work has been done and the rest
of the project is in the bid process with pricing and scheduling hard to narrow down. Weather and
money are contingent on progress.
The public hearing opened at 6:38 PM
Chair C. St. Clair read two emails not in support of the project due to the height.
money are contingent on progress.
The public hearing opened at 6:38 PM
Chair C. St. Clair read two emails not in support of the project due to the height.
Allison Hildebran of 85 Tower Street addressed the board. She was curious on the process if the
extension was denied. She added she lives in the vicinity and thinks all the new things happening in the
Weirs is great. She has concerns about the height problem in the area as well.
The public hearing closed at 6:48 PM
Staff Review: Planning Director K. Menici went over RSA 674-39. The city does not define active and
substantial and suggested the approvals be amended in the future so extensions will not be back every
year.
Chair C. St. Clair voiced his concern over the height limit around the lake.
Motion to approve the extension request to September 2024 per staff’s memo, R. MacNeill seconded.
M. DellaVecchia not happy with the steel material and corporate colors and the noticeability of them
from all angles. He feels this is an opportunity to make the buildings look more attractive and will
require little effort. The motion passed 6-1 with M. DellaVecchia opposed.
6.III. PL2021-0124SP; 18 Endicott St North, North Water Marine; Request to extend the approved
completion deadline for the redevelopment of the property with reconfiguring buildings, upgrade
drainage, build a retaining wall and build a new forklift launch well
Chair C. St. Clair opened the public hearing at 7:00 PM
The public hearing closed at 7:01 PM
Motion to approve the extension request to September 2024 per staff’s memo, R. MacNeill seconded.
M. DellaVecchia reminded this is the board’s opportunity. The motion passed 6-1 with M. DellaVecchia
opposed.
6.IV. PL2022-0070SP, 0071CUP(perf zon); 35, 53, 71 Winnisquam Ave; Request to extend the Mylar
deadline for the proposal to reconstruct retaining wall, boat ramp, boathouse and one residential
building within the four parcels
Motion to accept the application as complete made by M. DellaVecchia, A. Lovisek seconded. All
voted in favor.
Applicant: Jesscia Jacobson from Wilcox & Barton addressed the board. The applicant is working with
WRBP, DFPW and DES on details in conjunction with the sewer crossing through the wall. No work
has started on site yet, just cleanup of the rubbish and debris. The state application is currently in an
appeal period.
The public hearing opened at 7:07 PM
Mark Maki of asked if the sewer was changing and was told no.
The public hearing closed at 7:09 PM
Staff Review: Planning Director K. Menici noted that all parties are working tirelessly for solutions.
Motion to approve the extension request to January 2024 per staff’s memo, made by M. DellaVecchia,
T. Carmicheal seconded. All voted in favor.
6.V. PL2023-0101SU; 7 Baker Ave; Proposal for condo conversion
Motion to accept the application as complete made by L. Joseph, T. Carmichael seconded. All voted in
Motion to approve the extension request to January 2024 per staff’s memo, made by M. DellaVecchia,
T. Carmicheal seconded. All voted in favor.
6.V. PL2023-0101SU; 7 Baker Ave; Proposal for condo conversion
Motion to accept the application as complete made by L. Joseph, T. Carmichael seconded. All voted in
favor.
Applicant: Atty. Phil Brouillard representing the owner, Lake Life LLC was present. He mentioned that
the application was before the ZBA the previous night and was approved for a variance for the density.
He gave a brief summary of the proposal. The applicant has no issues with the staff review. The
condominium documents have been submitted to the Planning office.
The public hearing opened at 7:18 PM
The public hearing closed at 7:18 PM
Staff Review: Planning Director K. Menici noted that the dates will need updating. Plan revisions to
November 7, 2023 and completion November 7, 2024.
Motion to approve the application with the dates and conditions as stated in the staff review made by T.
Carmichael finding the proposal important to the neighborhood with less cars on the road and residents
vs nightly stays. C. Cheney seconded. All voted in favor.
6.VI. PL2023-0091SP, 0092CUP (park), 0093CUP(perf zon); 17 Bay Street; Proposal to construct 12
efficiency apartments with association parking and utilities
Applicant: Carmen Lorenz, Executive Director of Lake Region Community Developers (LRCD), Keven
Leonard of Northpoint Engineering, Detective Eric Adams from LDP and Maggie Pritchard, Chief
Executive Officer at Lakes Region Mental Health Center, was present. C. Lorenz addressed the board.
She showed a PowerPoint presentation and addressed comments from the July meeting and walked
through the performance zoning criteria. The site selection for the project was clarified. The property
was purchased end of 2022. She also clarified why they need 12 units, to be able to generate income
for the debt that it will be to demo and construct.
M. Pritchard addressed the board. It is great to have their own space in manageable sized units. Vans
and bicycles are mostly used to bring applicants to appointments and where needed. She lived next
door to a 19 unit structure similar to the current proposal. The services are designed to get folks back
on their feet. C. Lorenz read the section in the LRCD handbook regarding their rules on cars. There is
usually a 30 year land use agreement with Laconia Housing but this property could be a 99 year
agreement if the board would rather.
Det. Adams went over the findings of his letter that was submitted and went in detail the calls of service
impacts as well as explained that process.
C. Lorenz addressed the performance zoning aspect and feels the application meets all the criteria. The
residents will be from the local area and referred by the LRMH center.
B. Cheney has concern with the lack of parking on the site.
A. Lovisek noted her sticking point is parking and suggested only 6 units for family with a variance
request for only three spaces. C. Lorenz noted the need is for single people and there are family
transitional housing in other areas of town. There is a gap with this demographic.
R. Mora suggested adding parallel paring in the driveway entrance. If there are no vehicles then they
wouldn’t be used.
The public hearing opened at 8:24 PM
Harry Bean of Gilford stated he is unfamiliar with the performance zoning. He noted that this proposal is
a reduction of 66%. He explained the landlord/tenant rules. He feels the ordinance was put in place for
emergency and unforeseen problems and not for development. He suggested putting the proposal
The public hearing opened at 8:24 PM
Harry Bean of Gilford stated he is unfamiliar with the performance zoning. He noted that this proposal is
a reduction of 66%. He explained the landlord/tenant rules. He feels the ordinance was put in place for
emergency and unforeseen problems and not for development. He suggested putting the proposal
somewhere else. He asked why the city hasn’t given the property owner deadlines to clean up the
debris or a lien put on the property. He also brought up the petition that was signed and submitted to
the Planning and Zoning Boards. There is concern for the lack of parking on the site.
John Allen of 229 Shore Drive spoke. He lives near what used to be a meth house and understands the
concern but feels there won’t be an issue with cars. The units are small in size and residents will
probably have bicycles rather than cars.
Daisy Peirce from Navigating Recovery spoke. She read a letter from the Mayor’s Housing Task Force
in support of the project.
Dave Roberge of 18 Pearl Street spoke. He had concern that the folks in support do not live on the
street but found the Police findings commendable. He has deep concerns with who will be living in the
units with all the children in the neighborhood. Why invite problems.
Vincent Raso of 45 Bay Street spoke. He is deeply affected by drugs and mental health in his family.
His concern is that people move into low income units and end up not paying. The infrastructure should
be there before increasing units on the street. He had health concerns with the building with possible
chemical issues. He feels the application should meet the zoning and is not in support of the project.
B. Cheney noted that the Government and Ordinance Committee has been looking at the ordinance and
starting to look at revisions in places.
Carrie Lowe of 182 Blueberry Lane spoke. She uses the WOW trail frequently and talks to a lot of
people when out and about. She watched the transformation of many streets in Laconia. She discussed
her background and how far she had come. She works with many folks in the housing and never has
been in fear. Most of the residents don’t own cars and feels parking a moot point.
Lisa Watson of 84 Fair Street spoke. She is concerned about visitors cars and asked about the trash.
Gretchen Gandini of Gilford and the Taylor Home spoke. She abuts Gulf Village which is a similar
housing project. She read a letter that was sent to the board in support of the project.
Tammy Griffin of 18 bay Street spoke. Mental health workers are in short supply and has concerns
about the residents not having the support needed. She questioned the amount of funding vs the
number of units. She also passed around a photo from her security camera showing parking at 193
Court Street site from September 16.
Cathy Bowler of Gilmanton and Laconia Housing spoke. She understands the need for housing and it’s
not going to get any better. She noted that the Tavern on Church Street has 50 units and 11 parking
spaces. There has been no issue with parking. There is such a need for this kind of housing and is in
support of the project.
Mike Little of 16 Charles Street. He wondered about density and why 6 unit can’t work. He asked if the
proposal is sticky 12 adults and why the property on 13 Summer Street was sold if in need. He feels 12
units is too many for the area.
Vincent Braso asked the board to take into consideration the life safety issue and the Fire Department
concerns.
Harry Bean noted there is parking problem and asked why the board would vote to make that worse.
Andrew Hosmer, City Mayor and 609 Main Street spoke. With the Homeless Tasks Force, parking has
never been brought up in any of the forums. There is a real housing issue. People are looking for the
leaders to do something. He is in full support of the project.
B. Cheney would like to see the applicant compromise with the neighborhood.
Harry Bean noted there is parking problem and asked why the board would vote to make that worse.
Andrew Hosmer, City Mayor and 609 Main Street spoke. With the Homeless Tasks Force, parking has
never been brought up in any of the forums. There is a real housing issue. People are looking for the
leaders to do something. He is in full support of the project.
B. Cheney would like to see the applicant compromise with the neighborhood.
Chris Cass of 37 Bay Street spoke. He feels 12 units is too much for the lot and area.
John Allen of 229 Shore Drive spoke. He asked if any of the residents are veterans.
The public hearing closed at 9:32 PM
Chair C. St. Clair went over some of the questions that were asked in the public hearing: Fire Dept,
trash and performance zoning. He looked to Planning Director K. Menici for answers.
Planning Director K. Menici looked up the Fire Dept comments and their concern was that the building
get inspected during construction and have sprinklers.
The application is eligible for performance zoning. There was clarification on what would be considered
the existing or the proposal. R. Mora noted that the intent of the overlay is to foster development.
C. Lorenz said the trash will be the municipal cans with 4 trash and 4 recycle bins. It was mentioned
that if the property were to change that and have a dumpster, then an amendment to the site plan would
be required. R. Mora is uncomfortable with that low amount of cans.
Chair C. St. Clair asked about the parking plan that R. Mora suggested at the entrance of the drive.
There was discussion on that.
M. DellaVecchia reminded that the applicant can limit the amount of people with cars if that is needed.
He said parking is a moot point. He visited the similar proposal on Summer Street and there is one car
and one motorcycle at the lot. He feels it not right to use parking as an excuse. The perceived harm to
the neighborhood is minute compared to the benefit it will bring. He is in support of the project. The first
application was for 22 units and 4 parking spaces. He feels there was compromise.
Chair C. St. Clair apologized for not reading two emails in support of the project during the public
hearing and read them.
A. Lovisek disagrees with M. DellaVecchia and the neighbors have spoken and it sounds like they are
not super thrilled with the proposal and she represents them. She would like all the applications be
treated the same. A long discussion ensued on parking.
M. DellaVecchia disagreed and mentioned the difference between normal renters and the ones vetted
through community health.
B. Cheney feels the board isn’t anxious to have this proposal move in next door. He agrees with the
need, but maybe it should be in a different spot or more compromise.
T. Carmicheal thinks the community has a right to say how they feel and that there is no doubt that this
kind of housing is needed in the community. He feels there should be compromise between the
community and the applicant. He noted that no one is the specific neighborhood spoke in favor.
C. Lorenz finds the comments from the board troubling that the board approved the concept in February
and was the reason they went for funding.
It was brought up that no public was able to give their viewpoints at the conceptual.
Chair C. St. Clair noted a previous application that was approved with abutter complaints because the
application met the criteria. Density and parking within the overlay was discussed at length.
Motion to table the application to November 6 to reevaluate parking options made by R. Mora, L.
It was brought up that no public was able to give their viewpoints at the conceptual.
Chair C. St. Clair noted a previous application that was approved with abutter complaints because the
application met the criteria. Density and parking within the overlay was discussed at length.
Motion to table the application to November 6 to reevaluate parking options made by R. Mora, L.
Joseph seconded. All voted in favor with M. DellaVecchia abstaining.
7. PUBLIC HEARINGS, POSSIBLE CONSIDERATION AND VOTE Note: The purpose of this agenda section
is for the Board to have a presentation from the applicant and open a Public Hearing for the public to provide
input. The Board may also deliberate the application, decide and conduct a final vote at this time.
8. APPLICATION ACCEPTANCE Note: The purpose of this agenda section is to publicize that a Planning
Board application has been submitted AND for the Planning Board to determine if the application is
complete enough to begin the review process. PUBLIC INPUT IS NOT TAKEN AT THIS TIME. If the
application is accepted the Planning Board will schedule a Public Hearing at which time the application will
be heard and public comments will be accepted. Information about applications can be obtained on the
city’s web site or by calling the Planning office.
9. PRESENTATIONS
10. NEW BUSINESS
10.I. Appointment of members at large (4) to CIP Committee
Motion to appoint Mike Foote, Jane Laroche, Carolynn Moeller, and Mike Little as members at large to
the CIP Committee made by R. Mora, T. Carmichael seconded. All voted in favor.
11. OLD BUSINESS
11.I. Question and answer regarding sidewalks with the Director of Public Works
The sidewalks section will be pushed to November 6. Planning Director K. Menici asked the board to
come with questions.
12. PLANNING DEPT REPORT
13. LIAISON REPORTS
14. OTHER BUSINESS
15. ADJOURNMENT
Without objection the meeting adjourned at 10:13 PM
Respectfully submitted,
K. Graham
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