Planning Board

CITY OF LACONIA PLANNING BOARD 6:30 PM City Hall - Armand A. Bolduc Council Chamber Draft Minutes 1/24/2024 - Minutes 1. CALL TO ORDER The Planning Board Chair Charlie St Clair Called the meeting to order at 6:30PM 2. ROLL CALL Recording secretary Scott Pelchat performed roll call in attendance were Amy Lovisek, Tyler Carmichael, Rich Macneil, Mark Haynes , Stacy Soucy, Michael DellaVechia, Charlie St Clair, Louis Joseph, and Scott Mcwilliam. Absent were Bruce Cheney , and Gail Ober. 3. RECORDING SECRETARY Scott Pelchat 4. STAFF IN ATTENDANCE The Planning Director Rob Mora, And Zoning Technician Scott Pelchat 5. ACCEPTANCE OF MINUTES FROM PREVIOUS MEETINGS 5.I. Acceptance of Dec 5 minutes The previous minutes were accepted as written and it was unanimous. 6. CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARINGS, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE VOTE Note: The purpose of this agenda section is for the Board to continue the Public Hearing for the applicant and the public to provide input. The Board may also deliberate the application, decide and conduct a final vote at this time. 6.I. PL2019-0135CUPamd1; 46 Woodvale Dr; Amendment to the Sept 1, 2020 approval to pave the apron of the drive This was moved to the February 6th Planning board meeting under the advisement of staff. 7. PUBLIC HEARINGS, POSSIBLE CONSIDERATION AND VOTE Note: The purpose of this agenda section is publicize that a Planning Board application has been submitted and for the Planning Board to determine if the application is complete enough to begin the review process. If the application is accepted as complete, the Planning Board may have a presentation from the applicant and open a public hearing for public to provide input. The board may also deliberate the application, decide and conduct a final vote at this time 7.I. PL2022-0070SP, 0071CUP(perf zon); 35, 53, 71 Winnisquam Ave; Request to extend the Mylar deadline for the proposal to reconstruct retaining wall, boat ramp, boathouse and one residential building within the four parcels Jessica Jacobsen from Wilcox and Barton spoke regarding the extension for Knotty Marine and the Mylar submittal as they are waiting for a final third party review time and have asked for an extension to June of 2024. Charlie opened for public comment at 6:39 PM and closed to the public at 6:40PM Tyler Carmichael motion to grant the extension to June 30th 2024 for the submission of the mylar final plans and it was seconded by Rich Macneil and it was unanimous. 7.II. PL2020-0066SU, 0067CUP(cluster), 0068CUP(wetland); Mile Hill Road, Mountain Lake Village; Request to extend the approval for a 51 lot (18 in Belmont, 33 Laconia) cluster subdivision with  June of 2024. Charlie opened for public comment at 6:39 PM and closed to the public at 6:40PM Tyler Carmichael motion to grant the extension to June 30th 2024 for the submission of the mylar final plans and it was seconded by Rich Macneil and it was unanimous. 7.II. PL2020-0066SU, 0067CUP(cluster), 0068CUP(wetland); Mile Hill Road, Mountain Lake Village; Request to extend the approval for a 51 lot (18 in Belmont, 33 Laconia) cluster subdivision with underground utilities & sidewalk Phil Broulliard spoke regarding the extension for the Mountain Lake village approval to build a cluster subdivision. Phil dispensed a plot image showing the Mountain Lake Village rendering which falls part on the Laconia side as well as the Belmont side. Phil spoke regarding the difference in fees for water due to the different town/city. This extension would allow for time to put in septic on the Belmont side. Charlie and Phil spoke regarding the septic and than spoke regarding the new date of February 2025 for the extension. Tyler confirmed the true date of the extension as February 6th 2025. Charlie St Clair opened for public discussion at 6:45PM and closed to public at 6:47PM. Rob Mora stated that staff was fine with the extension Scott Mcwilliam motioned to extend the approval for the Mountain Lake Village to February 2025 it was seconded by Louis Joseph and it was unanimous. 7.III. PL2023-0124SP; 432 Province Street, Gilbert Block; Proposal to construct a 100x100 addition to existing pre-cast facility. Only lights & electricity proposed in addition Bryan Gilbert Spoke regarding the Proposal to build a 100 x 100 Addition. The Application was accepted by Louis Joseph and was seconded by Amy Lovisek and it was unanimous. Bryan showed the board an aerial picture of the current Gilbert Block Property Layout and how the new building would sit in accordance with existing structures. Stacy inquired about the last wetland delineation and when that was done. Bryan also spoke regarding the interconnection of the two buildings and how the crane inside would traverse the entire building. Charlie inquired on the parking for the property and Rob mora clarified the parking waiver is no longer needed and that Peter the engineer for the project submitted a parking layout for the property. Bryan also mentioned that the Fire Department was out to inspect the site. Stacy questioned the greenspace calculations per the plan and how it would remain unchanged. Rob clarified that the property is already developed and the proposed area is not counted in the current calculations. mike DellaVechia inquired about the retail store side of the property. The board and Bryan spoke about the functionality of greenspace for developments. Tyler pointed out to the board that with the removal of the parking waiver that would leave three waivers to be granted and the board concurred. Charlie opened to the public at 6:58Pm and closed to the public at 6:59PM. Charlie asked staff for comments and Rob stated the prior notes lead to granting this project as well as the remaining waiver requests. Rob mora advised Charlie on the reasoning behind the landscape plan. A motion for a waiver for the wetland delineation was made by Scott McWilliam seconded by Louis Joseph and was unanimous. A motion was sought for the waiver of the landscape plans Tyler Carmichael made the motion and it was seconded by Amy Lovisek and it was unanimous. A motion for the property line and arrow of closure statement Stacy made the motion and it was seconded by Rich MacNeil and was unanimous. A motion was sought to approve the application to allow for the construction of the new building and Tyler Carmichael made a motion to approve the site plan and it was seconded by Amy Lovisek and it was unanimous. 7.IV. PL2023-0125SU; 41 & 43 Manchester Street; Proposal for condominium conversion Mr. Jacques Belanger Spoke regarding The condo conversion on Manchester St. JE Belanger Land Surveying The owner will be converting the property from one owner too each tenant owning there own side. Scott McWilliam asked about the gravel drive. Mr. Belanger handed out to the board a layout of the current property for there review. There was a question regarding a secondary propane tank. Charlie opened to public discussion at 7:10PM and it was closed to the public at 7:11PM Charlie asked if any questions for staff Mike DellaVechia asked regarding the condo docs and they were to be submitted for review. Staff Comments Rob stated that he had reviewed the TRC comments and that per his review no concerns were seen other than the use of the third floor bonus room which was a suggestion from the fire department. Charlie inquired about an impact fee and Rob stated this property would not apply. Mike Dellavechia motioned to grant the application with a finding of fact that two owners are better than a single ownership. This was seconded by Tyler Carmichael and it was unanimous 8. PRESENTATIONS 9. NEW BUSINESS 9.I. Discussion with applicant at 1103 Union Ave regarding site plan violation regarding vehicles 8. PRESENTATIONS 9. NEW BUSINESS 9.I. Discussion with applicant at 1103 Union Ave regarding site plan violation regarding vehicles Debra Winsor spoke regarding the South End Auto Sales II Debra Apologized to the board for having the site be reviewed at planning board and allowed a very detailed explanation on why these things were transpiring. Debra spoke regarding a prior co owner of the company and how he had left several vehicles without titles at the union ae location. Debra stated as well that a lot manager has been hired to alleviate some of the problems as well. Debra mentioned a storage area had been rented for overflow cars until such time they can be moved to the lot for sale. Debra also cited new vehicle purchasers were not picking up there cars after the purchase. 27 cars were defined as the total allowed car count for the entire lot and that the two Tennant spots shall remain open. Scott Pelchat spoke to Deb emphasizing that per the site plan two spots shall remain open for Tennant parking regardless of any situation that may arise. Scott mentioned the tracking of last year and amount of time spent monitoring this situation. Also Scott mentioned that these were triggered by some phone complaints. Rob Mora suggested that this be tabled until the July 2nd Planning Board meeting. Amy questioned if any parking was happening on the opposite side of Zion Hill Rd. Tyler Carmichael Motioned to table to July Planning Board and it was seconded by Amy Lovisek and was unanimous with one abstention. 9.II. Endicott St N/Hayes Rd Conceptual plan for storage John Cronin And Peter Greiner Spoke regarding a conceptual design for Stonewall corners and a potential idea for storage on the two vacant lots on the property. Nick Waring engineer also spoke for Stonewall corners. Pete and his crew have done many projects around the lake. John Cronin spoke regarding the model of storage that everyone gravitates too and that corrugated steel and orange doors are storage of the past and that a redesigned look is the what's being presented here tonight. John spoke further regarding the site itself and how the layout of the site would look and that the proposed storage would be sold not rented and that each unit would have a storage space and an upper portion that could be utilized as office and or utilizable space. John mentioned that these are low generators of use and that the site would not be a high traffic generator. John opened to questions from the board. Charlie asked for the refinement of the conceptual term is it storage or not. Charlie asked if storage is allowed in that Zone and is not allowed per the table of usage. Rob Mora commented as well about past attempts to do storage in this area and that it did not fair well at prior attempts. Charlie touched on the storage guidelines for the CR zone and the non allowance of this in this zone. Charlie also talked about storage being up against the road edge and that in theory if allowed it should be set back and more discreet. Charlie defined that it was less of the style of storage and more of the definition of storage that's the hot item. Charlie also spoke regarding boat storage in the Weirs area as well. Mike DellaVechia asked if a better use could be made for the lot in Question. Peter Greiner Spoke about the Music being Generated at the High Octane and that these would not be impeded by the music. Stacy Soucy Asked about the rest of the space upstairs and that how usable is it in general and what would keep someone from living up there. Mike DellaVechia asked if there were any models to be viewed for example. Charlie asked how these would be constructed and it was decided it would be phased and that lighting landscaping and a gated key access would be used. Stacy Soucy mentioned she thought the idea could sway peoples opinions on self storage in this area. Stacy also touched upon the fact that all current large developments being put in are devoid of any storage. The question of rental over ownership arose and it was said to be a price of construction issue as to why they are unable to go the way of rentals. Scott spoke about the impact of storage over other uses in regards to draw for municipal services and that storage is the lowest impact. John again invited all members to see the Toy Box storage in Glendale to allow for a comprehensive look at what could be. John And Peter summarized the conceptual with thoughts on the flexibility of the use the construction and the location could be augmented for its use. 10. OLD BUSINESS Mike DellaVechia spoke regarding Sidewalks in the Weirs area and that he felt that opportunity's dwindle if we don't require side walks be put in while under development. Mike spoke about other developments as well and that Province Road should have been made to install sidewalks. As we only have one opportunity. Lous and Rob spoke about the federal requirement of cleanup of sidewalks. Tyler spoke about the sidewalks and if they are classified like the street they are on private and or public. And it was found that 10. OLD BUSINESS Mike DellaVechia spoke regarding Sidewalks in the Weirs area and that he felt that opportunity's dwindle if we don't require side walks be put in while under development. Mike spoke about other developments as well and that Province Road should have been made to install sidewalks. As we only have one opportunity. Lous and Rob spoke about the federal requirement of cleanup of sidewalks. Tyler spoke about the sidewalks and if they are classified like the street they are on private and or public. And it was found that yes private streets have private side walks and vise versa. And again it was found that on public streets DPW were to maintain the sidewalks. Rob Mora mentioned that he would look into the validation of the side walk clearing through legal. Rich MacNeill while discussing sidewalks said he felt we should get rid of waivers all together. Tyler spoke regarding the City's ability to maintain the side walks with current equipment and staffing levels being what they are. Rob Mora spoke about reviewing site plan and subdivision regulations to see if there was any ground to be gained regarding the side walk issues. 10.I. Appointment of G. Ober for Conservation Commission liaison Gail Ober Was appointed to the Conservation commission as a liaison to the planning Board Mike DellaVechia motioned to appoint Gail Ober as the Liasson to the Conservation Committee and this was seconded by Mark Haynes and it was unanimous. 11. CORRESPONDENCE 12. PLANNING DEPT REPORT Rob Mora Gave a planning department report stating that we were actively looking to hire an assistant planner and a conservation tech as well as an administrative assistant. Rob also spoke about the potential rezone of the RR1 section of Prescott hill Road. 13. LIAISON REPORTS No Liaison Reports were given as Scott McWilliams had not been invited to a meeting yet. Mark Haynes spoke of an upcoming meeting for strategic planning that would be upcoming at the Belknap mill. Charlie spoke of the historic district commission and that He and Mark 14. OTHER BUSINESS The State School question was asked and no new news was brought forth. 15. ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at 8:25PM