N. Park & Recreation Advisory Board
Regular MeetingLake Zurich, IL · November 8, 2011
Minutes
Corrected
VILLAGE OF LAKE ZURICH
PARK AND RECREATION
ADVISORY BOARD MEETING
NOVEMBER 8, 2011
1. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order at 6:32 p.m. by Chair Brazier.
2. Roll Call: Present - Chairperson Dawn Brazier, Board Members Michael Karija, Mary
Mihelic, and Judi Thode. Excused: Jeff Carey, Kevin Koch, and Jan Papa.
Staff present - Park and Recreation Director Perkins, Village Administrator Vitas, and
Assistant Village Administrator Witherow. Also present: Foglia YMCA Executive
Director Sean Nelson.
3. Approval of Minutes:
MOTION made by Mary Mihelic, seconded by Judi Thode, to approve the minutes of the
November 2, 2011 Special Park Advisory Board meeting as presented.
Voice vote, AYES have it. MOTION CARRIED.
4. Public Comments:
Chris Roberti, 975 Brittany, had concerns regarding the YMCA partnership proposal that
will be discussed this evening and asked if the Park and Recreation Department would
still be in existence. She would like to make additional comments after staff discusses the
topic.
Laura Rogers, 50 Meadowbrook, said the YMCA should provide the community with a
financial report of all of the costs and revenues involved in the plan and put the proposal
and all supporting documents on the web site. She suggested that in the event the YMCA
terminated programs such as the preschool program during the term of the agreement the
Village would not receive those significant programs back at the termination of the
agreement and suggested both parties carefully consider the agreement. She believes Lake
Zurich residents should get priority registration in programs run by YMCA/Village
partnership.
Bill Elliott, also had been able to access information related to this issue. He asked if the
Village had sought proposals from any other organizations to help balance funds besides
the YMCA.
5. Old Business - None
6. New Business
A. YMCA Partnership - Village Administrator Vitas and Foglia YMCA Executive
Director Sean Nelson
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The Draft Memorandum of Understanding between the Village of Lake Zurich/YMCA
was presented and reviewed in detail by Village Administrator Vitas. Item 1 in the
agreement states that it would allow the Foglia YMCA to utilize all existing Village-
owned park and recreation facilities to support all current and future recreation programs.
The Foglia YMCA will be responsible for all future staffing, equipment, and material
purchases to support and operate all of the offered recreation programs. Item 2 states
that the Village of Lake Zurich would provide general liability coverage and maintenance
of all facility expenses.
He reviewed the rest of the agreement and provided comments and clarification on certain
items. The highlights of Administrator Vitas’s comments are as follows:
The Village does not want to close the park department. This proposal is in the
discussion phase only. The Board of Trustees would make a decision when adopting the
2012 fiscal year budget. The earliest the changes could be implemented would be in
March of 2012. The Village would continue to maintain the parks and facilities. The park
department staff would work for the YMCA. It is their intent that staff remain employed
and at the same salary. Any cost savings would go into the Park Improvement Fund for
capital improvements. No other group was approached because the YMCA is in the
community and is a well-run organization. The agreement with the YMCA could be
terminated by either party with a 12-month notice.
Mr. Nelson said the YMCA would provide the infrastructure and training including
background checks and uniforms. They will run the exact same programs the Village did
for at least two sessions or indefinitely if they are successful. Programs can be offered on
a sliding-fee scale and subsidies are available for those unable to pay the fees. It is
unlikely that Village staff would be terminated after one year or any other period of time.
Programs will remain in the same locations. The sports organizations that use Village
property would continue to have priority.
Questions asked and items discussed were as follows:
• When had this proposal been introduced and who had participated in the
discussions? – Judi Thode, who had been chairperson, had participated in initial
discussions at the beginning of the year.
• The role of the Park and Recreation Advisory Board would be expanded per
Administrator Vitas.
• The actual savings to the Village was questioned and support documents
requested.
• Special events would probably be handled by the Mayor’s office. Would someone
need to be hired?
• Grants would probably be handled by the Public Works department. Would staff
have the time or expertise needed?
• Full-time recreation supervisors would be given positions at the YMCA.
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• How would agreements with youth/sports organizations be handled? Who would
oversee them and schedule field and facility usage? Administrator Vitas said these
would not be merged and agreements would remain in effect. Revenue for these
programs would go to the YMCA for salaries.
• Would Lake Zurich residents get a discount for YMCA membership or programs?
Would it cost residents more for the same programs? (Both YMCA and existing
Lake Zurich programs would remain at the same price per Mr. Nelson.)
• Park District – how could this be investigated as a possibility? (Would cost
residents more per Administrator Vitas but could move forward if the residents
wanted it to.)
Dawn Brazier pointed out that Director Perkins provides expertise in his field that would
be lost if his work was spread out to other departments and other staff. She said he is the
Advisory Board’s “go-to” person and they rely on him for many things. The Advisory
Board would lose that contact with the Village. She would like to see the actual costs to
be sure that the anticipated savings would actually be realized and not shifted to other
departments.
Judi Thode added that someone with expertise in parks is needed to oversee them and
they should not be lumped in with Village-wide mowing projects. She said if this
proposal was not good for the residents, she would have a problem supporting it.
Petra Kraddock, 620 Ivy Court, asked how the preschools will be separate and not
competing, if the cost would go up for Lake Zurich residents, and would either staff get
cut.
Jim Tarbet, 1195 Cedar Creek Drive, said the proposal is a good plan that is economical
and beneficial. He does not support becoming a park district and said it would cost
taxpayers a great deal more money.
Laura Rogers, 50 Meadowbrook, said the YMCA should provide the community with a
financial report and put the proposal and all supporting documents on the web site. She
would like the Lake Zurich preschool kept separate and suggested both parties carefully
consider the agreement. She believes Lake Zurich residents should get priority
registration.
Chris Roberti, 975 Brittany, had questions about duplication of programs and what
arrangement would be made with private contractors providing programming. She stated
her appreciation for Director Perkins and what he brings to the department.
Bill Elliott, 765 Old Mill Grove Road, said he is not happy with the proposed changes.
He questioned how the existing arrangement with AAU (Amateur Athletic Union) would
work after the changes and did not see how the programs would be compatible. He
believes the Village is reacting to a temporary financial crisis and would hurt the residents
by the proposed actions.
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Administrator Vitas said information was not intentionally withheld and will be available
to residents on the Village website. He asked that residents send their comments to
Director Perkins, Assistant Village Administrator Witherow, or himself and they would
be forwarded to Chair Brazier.
7. Director’s Report
Program and Special Events Update:
Director Perkins provided a brief update on upcoming events including the Tree Lighting
Ceremony. The winter/spring brochure was recently mailed. The Chamber of Commerce
presented the Village a check for $1,200 from the Taste of the Town event.
8. Items Attached - Presented to PAB and members.
Village of Lake Zurich/YMCA Draft Memorandum of Understanding
7. Adjournment
MOTION made by Judi Thode, seconded by Mary Mihelic, to adjourn the meeting.
Voice vote, all in favor. MOTION CARRIED.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:01 p.m.
Submitted by: Janet McKay, Recording Secretary
Approved by: __________________________________
Dawn Brazier: Park and Recreation Advisory Board Chair
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