W. Plan Commission
Regular MeetingLake Zurich, IL · June 27, 2007
Minutes
Corrected
VILLAGE OF LAKE ZURICH
SPECIAL PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES
JUNE 27, 2007
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Cushman at 7:45 p.m.
ROLL CALL: Present - Chairman Cushman, Commissioners Castillo (8:02), Crane, Jackson,
Kmiecik, and Peterson. Excused - Commissioners Bowling, Minden, and Tassi. Also present:
Village Planner Gadde, Assistant Village Engineer Lebbos, and Village Attorney Furr.
CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING:
FRANK’S NURSERY REDEVELOPMENT – TO CONSIDER A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR
A HOTEL, RESTAURANT, & OUTDOOR SEATING - PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLAT
OF SUBDIVISION, PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, SITE
PLANS AND EXTERIOR APPEARANCE PLANS FOR THE PROPOSED MIXED-
COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AT 195 SOUTH RAND ROAD ZONED IN THE
VILLAGE’S B-3 REGINAL SHOPPING DISTRICT – PETITIONER JOSEPH FREED &
ASSOCIATES, MANAGING AGENT
The public hearing was reopened at 7:46 p.m. Chairman Cushman swore in those wishing to
testify.
Jennifer Mooney summarized the changes to the proposal based upon recommendations from staff
and comments from the Plan Commission and residents at the June 6, 2007 Plan Commission
meeting. She responded to staff comments in letter dated June 27, 2007, sent to Village Planner
Gadde via e-mail. Revised elevations were displayed, but did not reflect a reduced building height.
An alternate elevation with the roof height 40-feet 7-1/4 inches and height to the eve of 30-feet 8-
inches was displayed. The option shows the building at 31 feet tall, so only the roof and the sign
pediment exceed the allowed 35-foot building height maximum. Changes to the exterior
appearance plan include a lighter colored brick (sample displayed), additional brick in the façade,
ornamental grills, an arched canopy, redesign of the front entrance area, arched windows on the
first story and front windows, and other changes to the side elevations. There were also changes
made to the exterior appearance plan of the retail building. Landscaping was increased and
windows were added on two elevations to improve the appearance from Rand Road.
A site line study showing what would be visible from the existing home behind the hotel and at
the property line was distributed and reviewed. Ms. Mooney said only the hotel roof would be
visible from the backyard, and no hotel residents could see into the backyard. The study assumed a
12-foot fence would be installed in place of the existing 6-foot fence. The fence would need to be
installed on the resident’s property because there was no room on the applicant’s property due to
the retention area. The fence would also help prevent problems related to safety. Another option
would be to install 40-50 arbor vitae plants for a landscape barrier. There are existing trees
spanning 25-30 feet on the berm, which already provides buffering. Improvements to the
landscape plan were discussed and had been reviewed by the Village landscape consultant.
A summary of variations had been prepared by Ms. Mooney. She said they are proposing to divide
the property into four separate lots, which has created most of the variations. If they kept it as one
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parcel, most of the variations would not be needed. She said a 30-35-foot setback is required
between their development and the residences and they are providing three times what is required.
The hotel is 114.2 feet from the property line, while Frank’s Nursery was 315 feet. Using the
landscape plan, Ms. Mooney delineated the parking and said it meets Zoning Code requirements.
They are providing 248 parking spaces plus 11 handicapped accessible spaces. She said the
developer is proposing various amenities to the Village as part if the P.U.D. including a push-
button for pedestrian crossing on Route 12 and plantings in Paulus Park.
Village Planner Gadde clarified that the Route 12/Rand Road Corridor Guidelines were guidelines
only and would not require a variation. He also addressed the 15% landscape parking lot
requirement and said the developer is able to design their plan as long as they meet or exceed the
requirements.
At this time, Chairman Cushman opened the meeting to public testimony. He explained to the
residents that a hotel is a permitted special use. Commissioner Castillo added that a 35-foot tall
building 35 feet from the property line could be allowed.
Aaron Carstons, 162 Pleasant Road, read a letter dated June 24, 2007, that stated various concerns
the residents of Willow Ponds, Knollwood, and the surrounding neighborhoods had. They are
strongly opposed to a hotel being erected on that site and were concerned that property values
would be adversely impacted and had concerns about safety. Mr. Carstons distributed photographs
and gave a presentation to illustrate the sight distance from various locations using a 24” piece of
wood as a marker.
Jeff Halen, 154 Pleasant Road, presented the highlights from a letter he had written responding to
the presentation at the June 6, 2007 Plan Commission public hearing. Mr. Halen objected to a
hotel in close proximity to a residential area and to the height of the building. He pointed out that
the sight lines would be different for different residences. He had questions about security and
safety in the nearby neighborhoods and had concerns about drainage. He questioned what would
happen if the hotel was sold. Mr. Halen gave a petition to Village Planner Gadde stating
opposition to the proposed hotel development and said the hotel should be located in the industrial
park.
Mike Weber, 126 S. Pleasant, said he agreed with comments made by Mr. Carstons and Mr.
Halen. He said the number of variances needed illustrate that the proposed development would not
be a good fit, and the height is in conflict with the Zoning Code.
Gail Fox, 151 S. Pleasant, asked if a shadow study had been done. She said she will be able to see
into the hotel from the second story of her home. Ms. Fox said she is adamantly opposed to the
proposed hotel.
Rick Albrecht, 144 S. Pleasant, stated his agreement with comments made by his neighbors. He
said a 12-foot fence would be an unattractive fortress, and he would not derive any comfort from
it. Mr. Albrecht researched setback and height requirements before purchasing his home last
September and did not expect a project like this to be proposed. He is opposed to the height
variance.
Nancy Strauts, 1053 Poplar Court, said she is an original owner in the Knollwood Subdivision.
She provided some historical information and questioned if it was the right thing to do to allow the
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K-Mart and Frank’s Nursery developments and changing from residential to retail. Mrs. Strauts
stated her objection to the hotel and questioned many specifics about the development.
John Nelson, 1034 Aspen Court, questioned if the water lines and infrastructure could handle the
proposed development. He believed there would be added crime from the hotel.
Tom Brodner, 1037 Aspen Court, said the hotel will have a negative impact on the neighborhood
and the community as a whole.
Yong Hong Guo, 166 S. Pleasant, agreed with the earlier comments. She said her house is the one
that they measured the sight distance from. She is opposed to the hotel and would be in a prison
with a 12-foot wall behind her house.
Biepal Sing, 185 S. Pleasant, said his front yard would look at the hotel, and the hotel residents
would look into his bedroom.
Gary O’Brill, 1102 Poplar, stated his opposition to the hotel and his agreement with comments
made by his neighbors.
Dawn Lightner, 119 S. Pleasant, agreed with the comments made by her neighbors and is opposed
to the hotel.
Anthony Pifer, 1061 Wilmette Terrace, had safety concerns and did not want to bring strangers
into the neighborhood.
Liz Brahner, 548 Regency, Mossley Hills Subdivision, said she would see the hotel from her
bedroom and did not support it even in the industrial park. She said there is no economic need, and
people can drive to Palatine where there are three hotels.
Mindy Kuehl, 1060 Wilmette, has a five-year old child that she would be concerned about. She
said there are many children in the neighborhood, and the hotel would create a bad environment.
Ricardo Garcia, 122 Willow Court, is the president of the subdivision home owners association.
He said Willow Ponds and Willow Subdivisions oppose the hotel.
Angelina Coola, 201 S. Pleasant, said she has worked in a hotel, and there are many undesirable
people and crimes do occur. She questioned what would happen if the hotel was sold after 15
years to a poorer quality hotel chain. She said the hotel will adversely impact the residents and not
provide any benefit. She was told by realtors that their property values would be lowered by 5-
10%.
Vladimir Kroshinsky, 1035 Aspen Court, said he grew up in Lake Zurich. He appreciated the good
atmosphere in the Village but did not think it would continue if the development is built.
Cheryl Schwarz, 1189 Hunters Lane, stated her concerns about the hotel threatening her safety,
security, and “comfortability”.
Luba DuBovis, 178 S. Pleasant, said she agreed with comments made by her neighbors.
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Cameron Baugh, Knollwood, asked for those opposed to the hotel to raise their hands. Most
people in the room raised their hands.
Gail Fox, 151 S. Pleasant, asked if a hotel was planned for Deer Park.
Mike Weber, 126 S. Pleasant, cited various references to the Zoning Code that he feels do not
support the proposed uses.
Steve Scanlon, 1165 Hunters Lane, questioned if there was an economic demand or need for the
hotel and asked if it would have an impact on traffic or the timing of the traffic signals.
Jim Bullion, 1093 Poplar Court, said he was advised by staff not to pursue his plans for an
addition because it required too many variances. Mr. Bullion asked why staff would entertain this
proposal since it needed so many variations.
Jan Suttie, 85 Linden, the Heights Subdivision, said she is also representing some of her
neighbors. They support the Knollwood residents that are opposing the development.
Nancy Strauts, 1053 Poplar, questioned the need for the hotel and said the proposed location was
not appropriate for a hotel.
John Petro, 1031 Aspen, agreed with his neighbors’ comments. He grew up and attended Lake
Zurich schools and returned to the community and wants to protect his investment.
Dale Perrin, Executive Director of Lake Zurich Chamber of Commerce, said Lake Zurich is a
growing community with 20,000 residents and 2,000 businesses. Mr. Perrin said the Chamber
receives 12-24 calls per month looking for local hotel accommodations, and there is a big need for
a hotel. He thinks it would be often occupied by people coming to Lake Zurich to visit their
relatives. Mr. Perrin said this is a growing area, and it is a luxury to look out your window and not
to look into a house or a business.
Stephanie Halen, 154 Pleasant Road, asked why all residents were not notified of the public
hearing and only those within 250-feet of the property and questions why residents supporting the
hotel were not present.
Rick Albrecht, 144 S. Pleasant, questioned who would use the hotel.
Commissioner Castillo said District 95 championship sports facilities draws people to the area for
playoffs and other events and they could use the hotel. Chairman Cushman said who would use
the hotel is not germane to the review of this proposal.
RECESS: The meeting was recessed from 10:01 to 10:12 p.m. and reconvened with a quorum
present.
Yah Jessica Wang, 166 S. Pleasant, said she would be directly impacted by the hotel and would
loose privacy because her bathroom and bedroom would look at the hotel. The hotel would block
the sun and create noise.
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Jim Tarbet, 1195 Cedar Creek Drive, had responses to comments made about property taxes, the
quality of life in Lake Zurich, and offered several opinions. He asked the Plan Commission to take
a better look at the project and not support it as it was proposed.
Chairman Cushman had prepared a list of issues raised in the public testimony and asked the
development staff to respond to them.
Mike Holtz, owner and developer of the proposed hotel, addressed comments about the need,
“rebranding”, and safety. He said they had a feasibility study done that found this location to be
excellent. He would share it with the Board but not the general public. He said he had invested a
great deal of money into this project already and would invest $7 million before it was done. They
only way he would sell it would be if he was offered more money. The average daily rate is the
key to the selling price, so it was to their advantage to keep it attractive and charge a good daily
rate. Holiday Inn has very strong franchise agreements that would cost him a great deal of money
to get out of his agreement. Regarding safety, Mr. Holtz said it is very important that people feel
safe or they will not stay at the hotel. He said it is an 86-room hotel with no bar, restaurant, or
convention center so it could only be supply a room and would not attract people for other
reasons. Other issues he addressed included the age of his staff, noise from heating and air
conditioning, and graffiti. Mr. Holtz said the windows only open 4” for safety reasons. There are
individual heating and air conditioning units for each room. Disturbances and noise would not be
allowed because it would disturb the hotel residents. Security cameras are not typically provided
but could be installed if it was necessary.
Village Attorney Furr addressed the conditions of the special use. He said a number of options are
available to the Board of Trustees. They do have the authority to assign the special use to the
applicant, but it would be quite restrictive and could be cumbersome.
Ms. Mooney summarized the conclusions from the traffic study which said the addition of
vehicles would be negligible, and the delay for signalized intersections would be 10-16 seconds
and non-signalized 3.4-10.2 seconds. Their traffic consultant recommended changing the timing of
the lights.
Assistant Village Engineer Lebbos said the proposed retention facility will be retro-fitted for the
additional capacity. Any existing flooding was caused by the lack of maintenance to the restrictor.
He said the infrastructure is in place, and there is adequate capacity for water and sanitary sewer.
Project architect John Lorman addressed the calculations on light blockage. The hotel would block
the sunlight for the closest yard behind it for one hour past sunrise.
There will be no loading dock. There are very limited deliveries that probably will be brought by
UPS to the front door. There will be one 6-yard refuse enclosed container that will be emptied 2-3
times per week.
Ms. Mooney discussed the requested variations, which she addressed from a planning perspective.
She said the property is a deep, narrow site, and the retail demands proximity to Route 12. She
noted 22 requested variations but Village Planner Gadde added 3 more. In her list of variations,
variations #7 through #18 are all for setbacks not related to the residential area but setbacks from
properties within the development. The landscape surface area as a whole actually exceeds
requirements, but when broken down by lot requires three variations. The floor area ratio has
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changed because the detention pond lot and the hotel lot were consolidated. Staff calculated the
revised floor area ratio to be .55.
Village Planner Gadde said the following must be added to the requested variations: modification
to the Land Development Code for a retaining wall in excess of two feet, variation for floor area
ratio, and variation to allow a fence in excess of 7 feet.
Assistant Village Engineer Lebbos said the existing detention pond was built prior to the code
changes so a variation will be needed because the regulations have changed. He said a variance
may be needed for water impoundment. He provided historical information about the storm water
easement and further described the retention area.
Mr. Carstons, Mr. Albrecht, and Mr. Halen had additional questions that Chairman Cushman
allowed the staff or the developer to answer.
The public hearing was closed at 11:17 p.m.
Discussion followed among the Plan Commission members. Several said it was difficult to
balance the issue of the hotel and the concerns of the residents against the issue of vacant retail
property. Most Plan Commission members said the hotel would be too close to the residential
neighborhoods and would have an adverse impact.
MOTION made by Commissioner Kmiecik, seconded by Commissioner Peterson, to recommend
the Board of Trustees approve a special use permit for a hotel, restaurant, and outdoor seating for
Frank’s Nursery redevelopment at 195 S. Rand Road.
AYES: 1 Chairman Cushman
NAYS: 5 Commissioners Castillo, Crane, Jackson, Kmiecik, and Peterson
MOTION DENIED
MOTION made by Commissioner Crane, seconded by Commissioner Kmiecik, to recommend
the Board of Trustees approve the preliminary and final plat of subdivision Frank’s Nursery
redevelopment at 195 S. Rand Road.
AYES: 1 Chairman Cushman
NAYS: 5 Commissioners Castillo, Crane, Jackson, Kmiecik, and Peterson
MOTION DENIED
MOTION made by Commissioner Crane, seconded by Commissioner Kmiecik, to recommend the
Board of Trustees approve the preliminary and final planned unit development for Frank’s
Nursery redevelopment at 195 S. Rand Road.
AYES: 1 Chairman Cushman
NAYS: 5 Commissioners Castillo, Crane, Jackson, Kmiecik, and Peterson
MOTION DENIED
MOTION made by Commissioner Peterson, seconded by Commissioner Crane, to recommend the
Board of Trustees approve the site plans for Frank’s Nursery redevelopment at 195 S. Rand Road.
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AYES: 1 Chairman Cushman
NAYS: 5 Commissioners Castillo, Crane, Jackson, Kmiecik, and Peterson
MOTION DENIED
MOTION made by Commissioner Crane, seconded by Commissioner Kmiecik, to recommend the
Board of Trustees approve the exterior appearance plans for the proposed mixed commercial
development at 195 S. Rand Road.
AYES: 1 Chairman Cushman
NAYS: 5 Commissioners Castillo, Crane, Jackson, Kmiecik, and Peterson
MOTION DENIED
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION was made by Commissioner Crane, seconded by Commissioner Kmiecik, to adjourn the
meeting.
Voice Vote, AYES have it. MOTION CARRIED.
The meeting was adjourned at 11:33 p.m.
Submitted by: Janet McKay, Recording Secretary
Approved by:_________________________________ 8/1/07
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