Belmont Shore Parking and Business Improvement Area Advisory Commission
Regular MeetingLong Beach, NY · April 16, 2015
Minutes
CITY OF LONG BEACH THURSDAY, APRIL 16, 2015
BELMONT SHORE PARKING BAY SHORE LIBRARY, 195 BAY SHORE
AND BUSINESS AVENUE, THIRD THURSDAY, 9:00 AM
IMPROVEMENT AREA
ADVISORY COMMISSION
MINUTES
William Lorbeer, Chair Kurt Schneiter, Commissioner
Marsha Jeffer, Vice Chair Joy Starr, Commissioner
Eric Forsberg, Commissioner Lisa Ramelow, Commissioner
Samuel Lippke, Commissioner
FINISHED AGENDA AND DRAFT MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING
CALL TO ORDER
At 9:10AM Chair Lorbeer called the meeting to order.
ROLL CALL
Commissioners Joy Starr, William W. Lorbeer, Eric Forsberg, Samuel Lippke and
Present: Lisa Ramelow
Commissioners Marsha Jeffer
Excused:
Commissioners Kurt Schneiter
Absent:
Also present: Julie Maleki, Chief of Staff, CD 3; Kedrin Hopkins, CCLB; Dede Rossi, Executive
Director, BSBA.
CHAIR REPORT
· Security cameras: additional modem is in place, staff has been focused on the Grand Prix,
will have more information next week
· Parking Study: RFP issued, should have study results end of year or early next year
· Tori Busch memorial plaque: was approved by family, BSBA, now ready to go; Dede Rossi
said the plaque will be displayed at the annual Miller party, May 7th, will be installed right
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CITY OF LONG BEACH THURSDAY, APRIL 16, 2015
BELMONT SHORE PARKING BAY SHORE LIBRARY, 195 BAY SHORE
AND BUSINESS AVENUE, THIRD THURSDAY, 9:00 AM
IMPROVEMENT AREA
ADVISORY COMMISSION
MINUTES
after that
· BigBelly’s - CCLB representative Kedrin Hopkins will address the commission; recent
meeting with CCLB discussed cost savings, reassignment of staff; contract was renogiated
four years ago, lowered fees approximately $15,000
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION: Members of the public are invited to address the
Commission on items of interest to the public within Commission jurisdiction. Each
speaker will be limited to three minutes unless that time is extended by the Chair.
Public participation will be heard without discussion or action on the issues raised.
· Kedrin Hopkins, CCLB spoke about the current contract, ideas regarding redeployment of
staff for parking lot maintenance, spot cleaning sidewalks, tree well maintenance, trash
enclosures, Shore ambassadors program, BigBelly’s recycling more efficient
· Chair Lorbeer discussed next BSPBIAAC meeting regarding the CCLB contract for FY 16;
current number of BigBelly’s not enough for CCLB to be efficient
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. 15-024BS Recommendation to approve the minutes for the meeting held
March 19, 2015
Attachments: 15-024BS Finished Agenda And Draft Minutes 03.19.15.pdf
A motion was made by Commissioner Starr, seconded by
Commissioner Ramelow, to approve recommendation. The
motion carried by the following vote:
Yes: 5 - William W. Lorbeer, Samuel Lippke, Joy Starr, Eric Forsberg
and Lisa Ramelow
Excused: 1 - Marsha Jeffer
Absent: 1 - Kurt Schneiter
2. 15-025BS Recommendation to receive and file the Financial Report for the
period ending February 28, 2015.
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CITY OF LONG BEACH THURSDAY, APRIL 16, 2015
BELMONT SHORE PARKING BAY SHORE LIBRARY, 195 BAY SHORE
AND BUSINESS AVENUE, THIRD THURSDAY, 9:00 AM
IMPROVEMENT AREA
ADVISORY COMMISSION
MINUTES
Attachments: 15-025BS BSPBIAAC 02.28.15 Financial Statement.pdf
· Lorbeer spoke about the revised budget from earlier meeting, fund
balance $2.4MM, will be reduced after various project expenses paid to
approximately $1.8MM
· Commissioner Forsbert spoke about the median project exceeding initial
projected cost of $400,000, most likely will need approximately $1.0MM
· Lorbeer spoke about $1.8MM would be a good start, $400,000 for the
median
A motion was made by Commissioner Starr, seconded by
Commissioner Ramelow, to approve recommendation. The
motion carried by the following vote:
Yes: 5 - William W. Lorbeer, Samuel Lippke, Joy Starr, Eric Forsberg
and Lisa Ramelow
Excused: 1 - Marsha Jeffer
Absent: 1 - Kurt Schneiter
3. 15-026BS Recommendation to receive and file the Long Beach Transit
Employee Bus Pass Program Status Report for the period March 1,
2015 through March 31, 2015.
Attachments: 15-026BS LBT BSBA Report March 2015.pdf
· Lorbeer spoke about the lower numbers
· Rossi spoke about the current passes need replaceing more often than
every two years, the numbers wear off, need to replace each year; lower
numbers could be a result of passes not working, also Belmont Shore
activity has been slow recently
· Lorbeer spoke about past February also had dip
· Commissioner Ramelow spoke about April always slow month
A motion was made by Commissioner Starr, seconded by
Commissioner Ramelow, to approve recommendation. The
motion carried by the following vote:
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CITY OF LONG BEACH THURSDAY, APRIL 16, 2015
BELMONT SHORE PARKING BAY SHORE LIBRARY, 195 BAY SHORE
AND BUSINESS AVENUE, THIRD THURSDAY, 9:00 AM
IMPROVEMENT AREA
ADVISORY COMMISSION
MINUTES
Yes: 5 - William W. Lorbeer, Samuel Lippke, Joy Starr, Eric Forsberg
and Lisa Ramelow
Excused: 1 - Marsha Jeffer
Absent: 1 - Kurt Schneiter
REGULAR AGENDA
4. 15-023BS Recommendation to approve expenditure not to exceed $25,000 to pay
Spectrum Facility Maintenance to surface clean, pressure wash, and
apply film forming sealant on the sidewalks in the Belmont Shore
business district.
Attachments: 15-023BS Spectrum clean-sealant v2.pdf
Spectrum Film Form Sealant Warranty 03.13.15.pdf
CM Gloss-Matte (Sealer-Stain).pdf
Gloss & Matte (Film Forming Sealers).pdf
· Lorbeer spoke about his absence from the March meeting, he read
through the minutes, and comments regarding reduce cost of Spectrum
contract, reduce frequency; understands approach, but does not take into
account bumped up frequency considerably, started with 28 cleanings
per year, added another 8 cleanings (every week July - September) due
to complaints from business owners; additional water created stagnant
water, West Nile virus, mosquitoes, etc; if increase cleanings, need to
keep water from going on side streets by picking up water, will be more
expensive and slower; need to wait and determine frequency of summer
cleanings; cost per cleaning approximately $2,500; if only do original
Stroll & Savor additional four cleanings, will then save 8 x $2,666 =
$16,000
· Forsberg asked if the sealant manufacturer was present
· Imil Desphy, CEO of IMRAE spoke about the sealant product
· Forsberg asked who uses horizontal application on sidewalks
· Desphy spoke about various locations with surface sealant on stairs
(landings), warehouses and schools
· Commissioner Lippke asked if the sealant is slippery
· Desphy spoke about providing a list of those who use sealant
· Lorbeer spoke about uncertainty whether or not sealant will work, but
seems to be working after 6 months at Legends; guaranteed not to be
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CITY OF LONG BEACH THURSDAY, APRIL 16, 2015
BELMONT SHORE PARKING BAY SHORE LIBRARY, 195 BAY SHORE
AND BUSINESS AVENUE, THIRD THURSDAY, 9:00 AM
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ADVISORY COMMISSION
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slippery, test project is working; estimate 2-5 years life expectancy; if
lasts less than 2 years what will be guarantee?
· Terry stated that if sealant starts to peel, fade or damaged by solvent,
Spectrum Facility Maintenance will touch up at no cost over 2 year period
· Lorbeer asked about possibility of system-wide failure whether or not
reseal entire area at no cost
· Terry said Spectrum will reseal at not cost is the entire area fails; three
warehouse facilities use 25,000 square feet of sealant, still holding strong
with regular heavy vehicle and forklift traffic
· Lorbeer spoke about $2,666 per cleaning, reduction of number of
cleanings, will save $16,000
· Forsberg asked if cleaning with solvent requires collection of water
· Terry said if any agent other than water is used, required to collect
· Forsberg spoke about complaints last year, if contract requires to collect
water, would rather clean each week May - October, twice/month in
winter, rather than sealant
· Lorbeer spoke about uncertainty whether or not need to do both; if use
only water, no need to collect water; need to do both (sealant/frequency),
$25,000 small price to pay for making sidewalk clean
· Forsberg verified that just water usage did not require collection
· Lorbeer spoke about he and City staff spent hours walking La Verne Ave
related to standing water last year
· Commissioner Ramelow commented that if doing both was affordable,
she would like to do both, looks so much nicer
· Lorbeer agreed with Ramelow, monitor over the summer regarding
frequency
· Lippke would like to inspect the pilot test area
· Commissioner Starr inspected the pilot test area and thought it looked
great, recommends doing both
· Lorbeer spoke about Commissioner Jeffer supporting sealant
· Dede Rossi would like cleaning every week, sidewalks very dirty;
weekends so busy with lots of people on the street; recommends both
sealant and increased frequency; doing dog poop campaign; May -
October best; requested concierge person, look behind alley
· Forsberg asked if Conservation Corps of LB could attend to dog poop
· Rossi requested to have shifts each day, possibly Spectrum or CCLB
· Lorbeer spoke about doing the best possible to help keep it clean
· Rossi asked about recycled water; the trees are blooming nicely, only
receive water from steam cleaning; BigBelly’s with trash only capability or
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CITY OF LONG BEACH THURSDAY, APRIL 16, 2015
BELMONT SHORE PARKING BAY SHORE LIBRARY, 195 BAY SHORE
AND BUSINESS AVENUE, THIRD THURSDAY, 9:00 AM
IMPROVEMENT AREA
ADVISORY COMMISSION
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also recycling
· Starr agreed that there is need for more frequent cleaning, dogs urination
in addition to poop
· Rossi spoke about dog urine worse than poop
· Forsberg spoke about the drought, whether or not recapturing water is
included in the current contract
· Lorbeer spoke about should have information available for future need;
can do in same time frame
· Terry spoke about recapture cost estimate, increased labor due to
lengthening cycle; fills up twice equals approximately 1,200 - 1,500
gallons per week
· Forsberg said he will vote against sealant, wants to expand contract to
cleaning frequency each week
· Lorbeer spoke about the Spectrum contract adjusts every year
Marsha Jeffer arrived at 9:52AM
· Lorbeer spoke about cleaning through October, and every week cleaning,
added Stroll and Savor cleanings; could add cleanings each month
A motion was made by Commissioner Ramelow, seconded by
Commissioner Jeffer, to approve recommendation. The motion
carried by the following vote:
Yes: 4 - William W. Lorbeer, Joy Starr, Marsha Jeffer and Lisa
Ramelow
No: 2 - Samuel Lippke and Eric Forsberg
Absent: 1 - Kurt Schneiter
5. 15-027BS Recommendation to receive and file the status report regarding the
installation of new smart parking meters in Belmont Shore.
Attachments: 15-027BS New Parking Meter Project Status.pdf
· Lorbeer introduced Seyron Foo, City of Long Beach Management
Assistant
· Seyron Foo spoke about the meter installation process, timeline,
unveiling at Promenade, Harvey Milk Park on Monday, April 20, 9AM;
starting in downtown, then Belmont Shore no later than May 15; will take
about 1 ½ weeks, 368 meters; install 500/week; Public Works and IPS
will do the installing; there will be no impact to parking/traffic; no
disruptions; pre-pay feature will allow prepay 2 hours in advance before
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CITY OF LONG BEACH THURSDAY, APRIL 16, 2015
BELMONT SHORE PARKING BAY SHORE LIBRARY, 195 BAY SHORE
AND BUSINESS AVENUE, THIRD THURSDAY, 9:00 AM
IMPROVEMENT AREA
ADVISORY COMMISSION
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10AM enforcement; includes all forms of payment; pilot testing of dome
mounted sensors for one month on Ocean Blvd downtown
· Lorbeer spoke about the dome mounted sensors are in other cities, some
commissioners were concerned about digging up street
· Foo spoke about the negotiated deal so no extra charge for dome
mounted; pilot only on Ocean Blvd, south side Magnolia - Chesnut;
heavier trucks on Ocean, better evaluation than 2nd St
· Jeffer asked when will Belmont Shore get the meters installed
· Foo said Belmont Shore will get new meters no later than May 15; no
sensor installations until after the 30 day pilot, then will install sensors;
staff will evaluate
· Jeffer commented that Belmont Shore does get lots of big and heavy
trucks on 2nd St
· Lorbeer asked about the rate of $0.75 per hour effective time, whether or
not the old rate with the old meters will remain until installation of new
meters
· Foo said that once new meters are installed, the new rate will be in effect;
enforcement hours and rate will appear on new screens
· Jeffer asked if the in-ground sensor installation is more expensive than
new dome mounted sensors
· Foo spoke about the City absorbing the cost of ground installation if
necessary
· Lorbeer asked about grace period for citations, etc
· Foo spoke about working closely with parking enforcement,
communicating daily; grace period will be one day, for example, each
section will be for that one day of installation; since clearly displayed
instructions will inform, and allow coin usage, only one day grace; first
five minutes will be displayed after pressing the green button
· Jeffer asked if five minutes is enough
· Lorbeer asked if one presses the green button, then add money, will the
total time equal five minutes plus the time entered
· Foo answered that the five minute grace time will add to time entered;
once the sensors are installed, staff will then explore time zeroing, etc
· Lorbeer asked if the green button will work regardless of sensors
· Foo said the green grace button will work without the sensors; if more
than two hours are needed, it will be okay to add more time; after sensors
are installed, City staff will be able to evaluate time usage, therefore be
able to set appropriate time limits
· Lorbeer spoke about the parking study and sensor data will be able to
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CITY OF LONG BEACH THURSDAY, APRIL 16, 2015
BELMONT SHORE PARKING BAY SHORE LIBRARY, 195 BAY SHORE
AND BUSINESS AVENUE, THIRD THURSDAY, 9:00 AM
IMPROVEMENT AREA
ADVISORY COMMISSION
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accurately determine time limits; he also asked about outreach efforts
· Foo spoke about his outreach efforts, and he met with the BSRA, BSBA,
DLBA, DT Residents Council, Gazette; information brochures will be
distributed to business
· Lorbeer asked Rossi about window posters
Commissioner Lippke left at 10:20AM
· Forsberg spoke about making all rates the same as the street, including
parking lot meters; possibly agendize this
· Lorbeer spoke about not being comfortable with raising the parking lot
rates unless it is needed for expenditures like the median project; if the
median project reaches a cost of $2MM, the City could possibly issue a
bond; pay stations could potentially collect same data; back row meters
will no longer be compound rate; employees don’t really use back row
meters as originally intended
· Foo spoke about the BSRA appreciated his presentation, especially
prepay, display informing about holidays, etc
· Lorbeer spoke about being careful to inform patrons about prepay only
with new meters
A motion was made by Commissioner Forsberg, seconded by
Commissioner Jeffer, to approve recommendation. The motion
carried by the following vote:
Yes: 4 - William W. Lorbeer, Joy Starr, Eric Forsberg and Lisa
Ramelow
Excused: 2 - Samuel Lippke and Marsha Jeffer
Absent: 1 - Kurt Schneiter
6. 15-028BS Recommendation to approve placement of stickers on the new smart
meters informing that parking meter revenue supports investments in
Belmont Shore.
Attachments: 15-028BS New Parking Meter Stickers.pdf
Pasadena Meter Stickers Photos.pdf
· Lorbeer spoke about stickers being a good idea, but needs to know
language
· Jeffers spoke about stickers being a good concept
· Forsberg spoke about stickers being a good concept; asked if meters
allowed enough room for sticker application
· Lorbeer spoke about the city of Santa Monica has same size meters,
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CITY OF LONG BEACH THURSDAY, APRIL 16, 2015
BELMONT SHORE PARKING BAY SHORE LIBRARY, 195 BAY SHORE
AND BUSINESS AVENUE, THIRD THURSDAY, 9:00 AM
IMPROVEMENT AREA
ADVISORY COMMISSION
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includes stickers
· Jeffer spoke about approval of the Santa Monica language, and the need
to say for what the meter revenue money is used
· Lorbeer spoke about the Belmont Shore sticker language
· Jeffer spoke about the language, “…money makes a difference…”
recommended
· Lorbeer discussed the different projects supported by the Belmont Shore
Parking Commission
· Foo spoke about coming back to the Commission with options at the next
meeting; new sticker material that will resist wear and tear; will reach out
to Pasadena to evaluate the material; today’s agenda item is only for the
Commission's approval of the sticker concept
· Lorbeer asked if sticker location is approved by IPS
· Foo said the stickers installation time will lag behind meter installation
· Jeffer spoke about wanting the sticker color to resemble Belmont Shore
median signs
· Forsberg approves the concept, wants staff to come back to Commission
with suggestions
A motion was made by Commissioner Forsberg, seconded by
Commissioner Jeffer, to approve recommendation. The motion
carried by the following vote:
Yes: 4 - William W. Lorbeer, Joy Starr, Eric Forsberg and Lisa
Ramelow
Excused: 2 - Samuel Lippke and Marsha Jeffer
Absent: 1 - Kurt Schneiter
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION: Members of the public are invited to address the
Commission on items of interest to the public within Commission jurisdiction. Each
speaker will be limited to three minutes unless that time is extended by the Chair.
Public participation will be heard without discussion or action on the issues raised.
There was no public participation at this time.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 10:35AM.
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CITY OF LONG BEACH THURSDAY, APRIL 16, 2015
BELMONT SHORE PARKING BAY SHORE LIBRARY, 195 BAY SHORE
AND BUSINESS AVENUE, THIRD THURSDAY, 9:00 AM
IMPROVEMENT AREA
ADVISORY COMMISSION
MINUTES
Next regular meeting: May 21, 2015.
I, Jim Fisk, BID Manager, certify that the agenda was posted not less than 72 hours prior to
the meeting. Signature:__________________ Date:_________
Note:
The City of Long Beach intends to provide reasonable accommodations in accordance with
the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990. If a special accommodation is desired, please
call Jim Fisk 48 hours prior to the Belmont Shore Parking and Business Improvement Area
Advisory Commission meeting at (562) 570-3863. This information is available in an
alternative format by request to Jim Fisk at (562) 570-3863. For correspondence purposes
you can reach City staff at jim.fisk@longbeach.gov.
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Agenda
CITY OF LONG BEACH THURSDAY, APRIL 16, 2015
BELMONT SHORE PARKING AND BAY SHORE LIBRARY, 195 BAY SHORE AVENUE,
BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT AREA THIRD THURSDAY, 9:00 AM
ADVISORY COMMISSION
AGENDA
William Lorbeer, Chair Kurt Schneiter, Commissioner
Marsha Jeffer, Vice Chair Joy Starr, Commissioner
Eric Forsberg, Commissioner Lisa Ramelow, Commissioner
Samuel Lippke, Commissioner
REGULAR MEETING
CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
CHAIR REPORT
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION: Members of the public are invited to address the
Commission on items of interest to the public within Commission jurisdiction. Each
speaker will be limited to three minutes unless that time is extended by the Chair.
Public participation will be heard without discussion or action on the issues raised.
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. 15-024BS Recommendation to approve the minutes for the meeting held March 19,
2015
Suggested Action: Approve recommendation.
Attachments: 15-024BS Finished Agenda And Draft Minutes 03.19.15.p
2. 15-025BS Recommendation to receive and file the Financial Report for the period
ending February 28, 2015.
Suggested Action: Approve recommendation.
Attachments: 15-025BS BSPBIAAC 02.28.15 Financial Statement.pdf
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CITY OF LONG BEACH THURSDAY, APRIL 16, 2015
BELMONT SHORE PARKING AND BUSINESS BAY SHORE LIBRARY, 195 BAY SHORE AVENUE,
IMPROVEMENT AREA ADVISORY COMMISSION THIRD THURSDAY, 9:00 AM
AGENDA
3. 15-026BS Recommendation to receive and file the Long Beach Transit Employee
Bus Pass Program Status Report for the period March 1, 2015 through
March 31, 2015.
Suggested Action: Approve recommendation.
Attachments: 15-026BS LBT BSBA Report March 2015.pdf
REGULAR AGENDA
4. 15-023BS Recommendation to approve expenditure not to exceed $25,000 to pay
Spectrum Facility Maintenance to surface clean, pressure wash, and apply film
forming sealant on the sidewalks in the Belmont Shore business district.
Suggested Action: Approve recommendation.
Attachments: 15-023BS Spectrum clean-sealant v2.pdf
Spectrum Film Form Sealant Warranty 03.13.15.pdf
CM Gloss-Matte (Sealer-Stain).pdf
Gloss & Matte (Film Forming Sealers).pdf
5. 15-027BS Recommendation to receive and file the status report regarding the installation
of new smart parking meters in Belmont Shore.
Suggested Action: Approve recommendation.
Attachments: 15-027BS New Parking Meter Project Status.pdf
6. 15-028BS Recommendation to approve placement of stickers on the new smart meters
informing that parking meter revenue supports investments in Belmont Shore.
Suggested Action: Approve recommendation.
Attachments: 15-028BS New Parking Meter Stickers.pdf
Pasadena Meter Stickers Photos.pdf
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION: Members of the public are invited to address the
Commission on items of interest to the public within Commission jurisdiction. Each
speaker will be limited to three minutes unless that time is extended by the Chair.
Public participation will be heard without discussion or action on the issues raised.
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CITY OF LONG BEACH THURSDAY, APRIL 16, 2015
BELMONT SHORE PARKING AND BUSINESS BAY SHORE LIBRARY, 195 BAY SHORE AVENUE,
IMPROVEMENT AREA ADVISORY COMMISSION THIRD THURSDAY, 9:00 AM
AGENDA
ADJOURNMENT
Next regular meeting: May 21, 2015.
I, Jim Fisk, BID Manager, certify that the agenda was posted not less than 72 hours prior to
the meeting. Signature:__________________ Date:_________
Note:
The City of Long Beach intends to provide reasonable accommodations in accordance with
the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990. If a special accommodation is desired, please
call Jim Fisk 48 hours prior to the Belmont Shore Parking and Business Improvement Area
Advisory Commission meeting at (562) 570-3863. This information is available in an
alternative format by request to Jim Fisk at (562) 570-3863. For correspondence purposes
you can reach City staff at jim.fisk@longbeach.gov.
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