Board of Commissioners Workshop Meeting
Regular MeetingMadeira Beach, FL · January 28, 2020
Minutes
MINUTES
BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
WORKSHOP MEETING
JANUARY 28, 2020
2:00 p.m.
A workshop meeting of the City of Madeira Beach Board of Commissioners was held at 2 :00
p.m. on January 28, 2020, in the Patricia Shontz Commission Chambers at City Hall, located at
300 Municipal Drive, Madeira Beach, Florida.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Deby Weinstein, Commissioner District 1
Nancy Hodges, Vice Mayor/Commissioner District 2
Doug Andrews, Commissioner District 3
MEMBERS ABSENT: Maggi Black, Mayor
John Douthirt, Commissioner District 4
CITY STAFF PRESENT: Robert Daniels, City Manager
Clara VanBlargan, City Clerk
Patty Kordis, Deputy Clerk
Ralf Brookes, City Attorney
1. CALL TO ORDER:
Vice Mayor Hodges called the meeting to order at 2:36 p.m.
2. ROLL CALL
City Clerk Clara VanBlargan called the roll.
3. PUBLIC COMMENT
Vice Mayor Hodges opened to public comment. There were no public comments.
4. TOPICS FOR DISCUSSION
A. Legal Representative by Weidner Law-City Liens - Ralf Brookes, City Attorney
City Manager Robert Daniels said there are numerous outstanding liens on the books for several
years, which could total as much as $1 million in claims. Twelve properties were identified that
continue in the lien process, and they have not been actively enforcing the liens. He had discussed
the lien issue with City Attorney, who reached out to Matthew Weidner Law, who specializes in
lien collection.
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Attorney Weidner said he has worked with many cities in Pinellas County, assisting with lien
collection on a contingency basis. He outlined the procedure when working with staff and said his
firm could start proceedings on the delinquent properties. Weidner Law will receive a percentage
of the debt collected.
Vice Mayor Hodges opened to public comment.
Robert Preston, 425 S. Bayshore Drive, commented in favor of the lien recovery process.
B. ADT Commercial Proposal for City-wide Video Security Systems - Walt Pierce,
Finance Director
Finance Director Walt Pierce said the camera systems at City Hall are not working, and staff has
researched a solution.
Building Official Frank DeSantis said the equipment is outdated and non-operational at this time.
The Recreation Center has the same system, and it is non-functional. Director Pierce said the
cameras at the Marina had not been functioning for the past two years, according to the forensic
audit.
David Tenn, a representative from ADT Commercial, commented on the new security system.
Director Pierce said it was seen as an emergency. The fiscal impact would be about $60,000.00
for a lease agreement; the funds would be available through the Capital account for the City
complex. They are working on how to allocate funds for this project. If this is a direct purchase,
the cost would be about $200,000. It would require a budget amendment.
Commissioner Weinstein asked about bidding out the project. The City Manager stressed safety
concerns for the City's employees and citizens. They are prepared to go out for an RFP if the Board
decided that. They are trying to bring a system in that they can implement that falls within the
City's procurement guidelines and have a contract that they can piggyback off.
Commissioner Weinstein asked about state funding assistance. The City Manager said when he
looked at the state contract, it gave the bits and pieces, but not the full ability to have somebody to
come in and install the service and cover them for technology upgrades in the future.
Commissioner Andrews said a new system is needed, but the cost was substantial to the City. They
are required to go out for an RFP and get at least three bids, even for a smaller project. He is not
in favor of approving budget amendments; the City would need to dig deep to find the money.
Vice Mayor Hodges opened to public comment.
Robert Preston, 425 S. Bayshore Drive, commented on the benefits of purchasing vs. leasing. If
the City needs the camera system, they need to find the money within the already adopted budget
instead of doing a budget amendment. They are required to go out for an RFP. Other companies
provide the same good service. Records retention also needs to be considered. The camera system
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is needed because of safety concerns for the employees and citizens. He would like for the system
to be expanded throughout the City eventually.
C. Professional Records and Information Management Services- Clara VanBlargan, City
Clerk
City Clerk Clara VanBlargan said the City has been contracting the service to SML, Inc. for several
years. The City utilizes offsite storage for most of its records because they have very little space,
and they are in a flood zone. She explained the importance of having a consultant to perform the
professional records and information management services and to have someone to assist in the
public records request process. The Board could renew the contract with SML, Inc. and discuss an
added position during the budget process.
Commissioner Andrews asked the City Clerk what her recommendation would be. The City Clerk
said she would later like to have someone inhouse part-time or full-time performing the services
and to assist in the public records requests process because it can be very time-consuming. The
consultant charges $2,000 a day for their services, and if she had a person to perform those services
in-house and to assist in the public records request process, it would be more beneficial to the City
because someone would be more available to the City, instead of 15 to 17 days a year at $2,000 a
day.
Commissioner Andrews said the consultant is great, but there is a need to bring somebody in to
help with the public records request. He is open to any suggestions, and they would have to find
the money for it.
The City Clerk reported the status of where the consultant is on the process and said that the focus
for FY 2020 is to get the electronic records stored on the City's systems up-to-date and to destroy
the ones that have met their retention, including the video footage of the security camera system
recently taken offline. She has been working on obtaining at least three prices that are required
because the cost for the consultant is over $15,000. The Board decides and she would like to bring
something to the Board to consider in February.
Commissioner Weinstein said she would like to consider the options. The consultant has done an
excellent job based on the abilities and the work produced.
The City Manager said they could address the position needs and discuss that with the Board during
the budget process. They currently need the expertise, as commented by the City Clerk, to take
them to the next level in the process of dealing with the electronic records and video footage.
Vice Mayor Hodges opened to public comment. There were no public comments.
The Board consented to renew the contract with SML, Inc. and to discuss the new position needs
during the budget process.
D. National Softball Association (NSA) - 2020 Contract Pricing - Jay Hatch-Recreation
Director
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Recreation Director Jay Hatch said the proposal is to work with the National Softball Association
to put together contract pricing for FY 2020. He gave the background of the organization and the
history of the City working with them.
Commissioner Weinstein asked the total amount of revenue vs. the small amount the City would
be spending on maintenance. She is not looking for great revenue; she does not want to lose
anything. Director Hatch explained it depended on the weekend, and what is needed on the City's
part for them to have the event. The only time when they are losing money is when the fields sit
empty.
Commissioner Andrews said this is an administrative issue, and the Board does not need to weigh
in on it. There is nothing done at the Recreation Center at a loss. The tournaments are all revenue-
producing for the City.
Vice Mayor Hodges opened to public comment. There were no public comments.
E. John's Pass Seafood Festival -Jay Hatch, Recreation Director
Recreation Director Jay Hatch explained the need to put together a new contract for the John's
Pass Seafood Festival with the following additional items, which he explained.
• I 0% contribution to the City from the John's Pass Seafood Festival proceeds which would
be earmarked specifically for John's Pass Village beautification and improvements
• Cooperative event grant application whereas the City of Madeira Beach and John's Pass
Village Association will jointly file an application for event funding via eligible grants
• Cooperative oversight and involvement with event planning and operations
Mr. Hatch said the new proposed contract would allow the City to be more involved. There has
been a lot of improvement to the festival in the past few years. The event brings revenue and
contribution to the City.
Commissioner Andrews said the event is a good thing, and they should always be working together
with the merchants and the Seafood Festival. They have had a couple of ideas where a portion of
the money goes into the beautification of John's Pass. It is a complete solution where everyone
benefits; everybody helps each other by partnering, the money goes to marketing, and the City
benefits because the event brings more people into the City, and the parking meters are all filled.
Commissioner Weinstein said it is a good event and well attended, and hopefully, they will be
adding more children activities.
Commissioner Hodges commented in favor of the event.
Sonny Flynn, John's Pass Village Association President, gave an overview of the upcoming
festival and said they hoped to get the contract with the City.
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Vice Mayor Hodges opened to public comment. There were no public comments.
F. Friends of Parks and Recreation - Jay Hatch, Recreation Director
Recreation Director Jay Hatch said the Board previously discussed the item and requested that it
be discussed again. They are moving forward with Friends of Parks and Recreation and for them
to form a 501(c)3, so they can have fundraising events to help offset some of the expenditures.
Commissioner Andrews and Commissioner Hodges commented in favor of forming the
committee.
Commissioner Weinstein said she questioned previously if the committee should be an ad hoc
committee opposed to a 50l(c)3 organization. Director Hatch explained the benefits of them
forming a 501(c)3 organization. Someone from Recreation will serve as a non-voting member to
the committee. The City Attorney said the Friends of Parks around the state are organized
separately from the City and as a 501 (c)3. There would be public records issues depending on who
is on the committee. By keeping the group separate, there would be no liability to the City. Director
Hatch said the City would still assist with the corporation, insurance liability, etc.
Vice Mayor Hodges opened to public comment. There were no public comments.
The City Manager said the item would be on the agenda in February for approval.
G. Marina Fund profit/Loss for FY 2019 and Comparison to FY 2018 - Walt Pierce,
Finance Director.
Finance Director Walt Pierce noted a date typo in his staff memo. He said he created a spreadsheet,
Amendment # l, comparing FY 2018 and FY 2019 differences. The report illustrates, now, a
$256,353.36 excess of FY 2019 revenue over expenditures. The City Auditor recently had said
that he had no adjustments against the Marina, and if there are any adjustments to that number, it
would not be anything significant at this time. The comparison to FY 2018 showed that fuel
revenue decreased from FY 2018 to FY 2019 by $127,794, which he thinks was an initial part of
Commissioner Andrews's concern. It was probably due to the reduction in discounts. However,
the total fuel expenses decreased even more by $204,684.23. Director Pierce explained how he
came up with the $127,794 fuel revenue figure. The total fuel sales in FY 2018, including unleaded
diesel fuel sales and commercial sales, were $2,006,156.53. For FY 2019, it decreased by
$127,000 to $1,878,361.77. The purchases for FY 2018 were $1,631,794.67, but for FY 2019, the
purchases were $1,427,110.44. Although there was a decrease in revenue, the decrease in fuel sales
contributed to a gross profit of 3%. He double-checked those numbers with the auditors, and they
matched his figures. The $256,353 will be reported in the CAFR.
Commissioner Andrews received clarification from Director Pierce that they are in a much better
position this year than last year financially at the Marina. Reading a statement made by Director
Pierce in his staff memo to the Board that he was unaware of his (Commissioner Andrews) public
records request until prior to the meeting that day. He asked Director Pierce if that meant he was
unaware he had requested the Marina profit and loss statements through the Clerk's office. Director
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Pierce said there was some misunderstanding and apologized for any miscommunication. His goal
today was to get the right numbers to the Board. Commissioner Andrews verified with the City
Clerk that when he requested the Marina documents from her, that Mr. Pierce told her, he would
have to speak to the City Manager about it, and the City Clerk confirmed so. Commissioner
Andrews said because he did not receive the Marina documents as requested from Mr. Pierce, he
had to request them from the Marina and received them. He did not have to get permission from
the City Manager for any public records request. Director Pierce said he did not mind providing
the requested documents; he wanted to wait to get concrete numbers from the auditor after
completing the audit, and that was why the City Manager had asked that he speak to him about it.
Commissioner Andrews said he asked the City Manager about it, and the City Manager rolled his
eyes.
Commissioner Andrews said Mr. Pierce mentioned in his staff memo to the Board that the
documents he obtained from the Marina did not properly represent the complete picture.
Commissioner Andrews said that was the starting point of the problem.
Commissioner Andrews reviewed the unaudited budget report on page 82 of the agenda packet
prepared by the Finance Director. He said the encumbrance amount showed $174,122.73 for FY
2019, which is the total amount minus the fuel purchases. In the report for FY 2018, there are no
encumbrances listed. He asked if the audited version of FY 2019 is going to have any
encumbrances, and Director Pierce said no, and that the audit and the CAFR only reported
revenues and expenditures. The encumbrance will not show up because it is only a budgeted figure,
which is the way encumbrances work. Although there is a purchase order against it, it does not
become an expenditure until they make a payment. Purchase order amounts can be deleted, and
the encumbrance rolled over to the new year. Commissioner Andrews said if the $174,122.73 is
an expense, then that number comes off the $256,353. Director Pierce said the number does not
show expended in the budget until it is paid. A purchase order can be deleted over time. It is not a
purchase and not an obligation, its an encumbrance.
Commissioner Andrews reviewed the Marina Fund Profit and Loss Statement for FY 2019 and
Comparison to FY 2018 on page 78 and page 79 of the agenda packet. He said the last report the
citizens received on the Marina was that the Marina had lost $550,000, and that was what the
newspaper reported on the Marina audit based on the City's press release given to them. He asked
Director Pierce if the Marina had lost $550,000 in FY 20 I 8. Director Pierce said no, he is showing
that there was a net revenue over expenses in FY 2018 of $105, 122. Commissioner Andrews said
the citizenry needed to know the truth. They think that the Marina lost $550,000, or the former
Marina Director had stolen that amount. He asked that there be a retraction to the Beach Beacon
that the Marina did not lose $550,000 and an apology be made to Mr. Marsicano. Director Pierce
said he was not aware of that figure. The excess of revenues over expenses for FY 2019 was
$105,000. The Marina did not lose $550,000 in FY 2018.
Commissioner Weinstein asked if everyone agreed that Point of Order was proper to call at that
time because they were not discussing a loss in the Marina Fund, but the comparison reports
instead. She asked for a copy of what Commissioner Andrews had read that he said was reported
about the Marina.
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Commissioner Andrews said the citizenry thinks that the Marina lost $550,000 in FY 2018, which
is not correct. That information came from the forensic fraud investigation, and the information
reported about the Marina loss is not correct. He said Director Pierce just reported that the Marina
made $105,000 in FY 2018 and did not lose $550,000 and reported that the expenditure for the
audit was taken out of the profit margin for that year, and that is not supposed to happen. He asked
that Director Pierce make a retraction to the Beach Beacon and report the truth to the public.
Director Pierce said some discounts were levied, and some were improper. That was the figure the
forensic auditors had come up with after making the calculations based on those discounts. This
will be a successful year that will end at $256,353, which is a tremendous gross from the previous
year of $105,000. Commissioner Andrews said if the encumbered purchase order amount rolls
over to the new year, they will start with $174,000 in the hole for something they purchased in FY
2019. That was done so the numbers would look better.
Director Pierce said, as an example, he encumbered $340,000 with a purchase order for the
purchase of the generator. Chances are, only $250,000 will be spent, but the $340,000, instead of
the $250,000, is encumbered. The $340,000 is a "not to exceed" amount. The remaining dollars
are not available for the use of other things because it's encumbered to be rolled over to the new
ye~r, which is the way encumbrance works. Commissioner Andrews said they should not have to
look for other monies because excessive encumbered funds will be rolled over to another year to
make the budget look good. The money was expended in FY 2018, so it was not an encumbrance.
He asked Director Pierce to do a retraction for that because it makes the City look bad. To do a
good service to the City is to let the citizenry know what is going on, and that would make him
happy.
Commissioner Weinstein commented that the figure gained or lost was not reported by City staff.
She did not know where the number came from, but the main objective is that the bottom line is
positive, which was accomplished by all City staff, and that is a good step forward.
Commissioner Andrews read a press release that was written by the City's Chief Information
Officer, stating that the forensic audit report showed that the estimated Marina losses totaled more
than $550,000. That information was given to the newspapers to write. As Director Pierce stated,
the Marina did not lose $550,000. The misinformation must be corrected because they do not need
that kind of publicity. In the year they are talking about, they made $550,000. The citizens deserve
to know the truth, and there needs to be a retraction. The City Manager said he would look into
that.
The meeting recessed at 4:21 p.m. and reconvened at 4:28 p.m.
Vice Mayor Hodges opened to public comment.
John Hendricks, 569 Normandy Road, commented that the City needed to apologize to the citizens
and Dave Marsicano for the false statements.
Helen Price, 13319 Boca Ciega Avenue, commented that in 2018 when Dave Marsicano was the
Marina Director, the City's fuel sales were $550,000.00 plus, with the fuel discounts. The very
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next year, when the Commission decided to do away with the discounts, they sold $350,000 in
fuel. That one decision alone lowered the revenue by $200,000. Mr. Dave Marsicano deserves an
apology from the City for the press report put out in the direction of former city manager Jonathan
Evans by Mr. Curt Preisser, the City's Public Information Officer. The City should do a retraction.
H. Amendment to Code of Ordinances, Sec. 2-386. Modification of Orders by Special
Magistrate - Linda Portal, Community Development Director
Community Development Director Linda Portal reviewed the item and said the proposed
ordinance should facilitate a cleaner lean collection process. As they reviewed the process, they
looked at better ways to enforce the liens. She explained the problems encountered with the special
magistrate when trying to enforce the liens. If the Board is in favor of moving forward, she can
bring back the other items dealing with the magistrate and get that all cleaned up at once.
The City Manager said the items would be on the February meeting agenda.
Vice Mayor Hodges opened to public comment. There were no public comments.
I. Update on Proportionate-Share Development Regulations and Fees - Jerry Murphy,
Consultant Planner.
Planning Consultant Jerry Murphy gave an update on proportionate-share development regulations
and fees. They are looking for direction at the February 11 th meeting for a decision.
Vice Mayor Hodges opened to public comment. There were no public comments.
J. Construction Administration Services for Crystal Island Roadway & Stormwater
Improvements Project-Jamie Ahrens, Public Works Director.
Public works Director Jamie Ahrens gave an update on the construction administration services
for the Crystal Island roadway and stormwater improvement projects. He said it would cost
$198,700 for Deuel and Associates to manage the project, and the staff is seeking direction to
move forward and bring the item to the February meeting for approval. Commissioner Andrews
said they had not approved the project yet, so it would be senseless to approve this item beforehand.
The City Manager said he would put the item on the same agenda along with the project for
approval.
Vice Mayor Hodges opened to public comment.
Helen Price, 13319 Boca Ciega A venue, asked if Deuel & Associates was one of the bidders, and
the City Manager explained no. If approved by the Board, they will be the engineer overseeing the
project.
Following discussion of the agenda items, the City Manager asked for a consensus from the Board
to allow Missy Hahn with the Treasure Island and Madeira Beach Chamber of Commerce to host
a Candidate Forum in the Commission Chambers. The Board gave consensus and said it was good
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transparency and public service to the community to allow the forum in the City's Commission
Chambers.
5. ADJOURNMENT
Vice Mayor Hodges adjourned the meeting at 4:48 p.m.
ATTEST:
Clara VanBlargan, MMC, MSM, City Cler
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Agenda
City of Madeira Beach
Agenda
BOC Workshop Meeting
Tuesday, January 28, 2020 @ 2:00 PM
Commission Chambers
The Board of Commissioners of the City of Madeira Beach, Florida will meet in
the Patricia Shontz Commission Chambers at City Hall, located at 300
Municipal Drive, Madeira Beach, Florida to discuss the agenda items of City
Business listed at the time indicated below. Meetings will be televised on
Spectrum Channel 640 and Live Streamed on City’s website.
1. CALL TO ORDER
2. ROLL CALL
3. PUBLIC COMMENT
Public participation is encouraged. If you are addressing the Commission, step to the
podium and state your name and address for the record. Please limit your comments to
three (3) minutes and do not include any topic that is on the agenda. Public comment
on agenda items will be allowed when they come up.
4. TOPICS FOR DISCUSSION
A. Legal Representation by Weidner Law - City Liens – Ralf Brookes, City
Attorney
Memo - Weidner Law Lien Collection CP1
Weidner Law Proposal Letter
Weidner Law Marketing Brochure
Weidner Law Client Retainer Agreement
Statement of Client's Rights
B. ADT Commercial Proposal for City-wide Video Security System – Walt
Pierce, Finance Director
Memo - ADT Commercial Proposal CP1
ADT Commercial Proposal
Safety Harbor Contract
C. Professional Records and Information Management Services – Clara
VanBlargan, City Clerk
Memo - Professional Services Agreement CP1
Proposal from SML, Inc. for FY 2020
D. National Softball Association (NSA) – 2020 Contract Pricing – Jay Hatch,
Recreation Director
Memo - NSA CP1
E. John’s Pass Seafood Festival – Jay Hatch, Recreation Director
Memo - 2020 Johns Pass Seafood Festival CP1
2019 Seafood Fest Contract Checklist
2019 John's Pass Seafood Festival Recap
2019 JPSF P & L
Pro Forma
2019 JPSF Budget
City Parking and Operations Revenue and Expense Report
F. Friends of Parks and Recreation – Jay Hatch, Recreation Director
Memo - Friends of Parks and Recreation CP1
Edgewood Attachment
South San Fran Attachment
Friends of Rec Healthy Community Attachment
G. Marina Fund Profit/Loss for FY 2019 and Comparison to FY 2018 – Walt
Pierce, Finance Director
Memo - Marina Fund P&L FY2019 and Comparison to FY2018 CP1
Attach#1_MarinaFundP&LFY2019_and ComparetoFY2018
Attach#2_FY2019Budget report
Attach#3_FY2018BudgetReport
H. Amendment to Code of Ordinances, Sec. 2-386. Modification of Orders by
Special Magistrate –
Linda Portal, Community Development Director
Memo - Amendment to Special Magistrate Appeal Process CP1
I. Update on Proportionate-Share Development Regulations and Fees – Jerry
Murphy, Consultant Planner
Memo - Update on Status of Impact Fee Study CP1
Fully-executed Task Order 1_FE
Fully-executed Task Order 2_FE
Prop Share Development Fee - Initial Report
DRAFT Maderia Beach-UF Master Agreement_Task Order 3
J. Construction Administration Services for Crystal Island Roadway &
Stormwater Improvements Project - Jamie Ahrens, Public Works Director
Memo - Construction Administration Services for Crystal Island Project CP1
Deuel & Associates - Proposal for Construction Administration Services
5. ADJOURNMENT
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appeal is to be based. The law does not require the City Clerk to transcribe verbatim minutes; therefore, the
applicant must make the necessary arrangements with a private reporter or private reporting firm and bear the
resulting expense. In accordance with the Americans with Disability Act and F.S. 286.26; any person with a
disability requiring reasonable accommodation to participate in this meeting should call the City Clerk at 727-391-
9951, ext. 231 or fax a written request to 727-399-1131.
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