Environmental Commission
Regular MeetingMadison, NJ · September 27, 2012
Minutes
Madison
Environmental
Commission
Meeting
Minutes—September
27,
2012
Call
to
order
and
Open
Public
Meetings
Statement
at
7:30pm.
PRESENT:
Missy
Durham,
Jeff
Gertler,
Jim
Greene,
Susan
Niculescu,
Roy
Redmond,
Jeff
Sarrett,
Betsy
Uhlman,
Claire
Whitcomb.
ABSENT:
Stephan
Stocker,
Don
Links
(Council
Liaison).
Minutes:
The
minutes
of
the
meeting
of
August
30,
2012
were
approved
with
changes.
Guests:
Steve
Gabe,
Resident
and
Environmental
Lawyer.
Mail
received:
No
mail.
Discussion:
1. Leaf
Blowing:
Mr.
Steve
Gabe
presented
his
concerns
about
the
use
of
gas
powered
leaf
blowers.
His
observation
is
that
they
are
used
to
clean
driveways
and
parking
lots
when
there
are
no
leaves
around.
They
are
noisy
and
pollute
the
air
not
only
with
the
gasoline
fumes
but
also
by
blowing
whatever
detritus
(such
as
animal
feces)
is
lying
on
the
pavement
into
the
air.
He
would
like
to
see
them
banned
in
Madison
or
at
least
severely
limited
in
use.
Mr.
Gabe
presented
a
proposed
ordinance
which
would
ban
the
use
of
gas
powered
leaf
blowers
and
hedge
trimmers
in
Madison.
B.
Uhlman
noted
that
several
surrounding
towns
(Maplewood,
Morristown,
Montclair,
and
Princeton)
have
ordinances
limiting
the
use
of
leaf
blowers,
but
not
banning
them.
She
also
noted
that
the
draft
provided
by
Mr.
Gabe
is
based
on
an
ordinance
in
Berkeley,
California,
where
the
issue
of
clearing
leaves
in
the
autumn
is
minimal
due
to
the
different
climate
there.
There
was
general
discussion
in
which
the
committee
members
asked
Mr.
Gabe
to
provide
some
factual
evidence
to
support
his
claims
so
that
any
action
to
be
taken
on
the
part
of
the
committee
was
supported
by
facts.
S.
Niculescu
noted
that
OSHA
has
standards
which
restrict
the
noise
level
of
various
kinds
of
equipment
and
that
the
leaf
blowers
are
most
likely
covered
by
those
standards.
Mr.
Gabe
agreed
to
substantiate
his
claims
with
factual
evidence
and
to
re-‐draft
the
ordinance
based
on
a
New
Jersey
municipal
ordinance.
Later
conversation
on
this
issue
noted
that
there
is
probably
already
an
ordinance
in
Madison
concerning
the
decibel
level
of
equipment
used.
2. Rain
Gardens
at
the
MRC:
Betsy
Uhlman
reported
that
they
are
in
the
process
of
being
dug
up
and
augured
to
allow
for
better
drainage
since
the
original
construction
was
not
according
to
the
stormwater
management
plan.
Roy
Redmond
asked
to
what
depth
was
the
auguring?
When
B.
Uhlman
responded
that
the
depth
was
2
feet,
R.
Redmond
commented
that
it
would
not
be
adequate
to
be
effective.
The
auguring,
he
said,
has
to
go
to
the
next
level
of
sand,
which
could
1
be
5
feet
down
or
more.
B.
Uhlman
noted
that
the
only
reason
that
the
Rain
Gardens
are
being
fixed
is
because
Morris
County
Mosquito
Commission
issued
a
warning.
The
Rain
Gardens
had
become
pools
breeding
mosquitoes.
B.
Uhlman
noted
that
the
new
soil
was
to
be
installed
the
next
day
and
then
new
plants
planted.
She
noted
that
in
addition
to
the
lack
of
drainage
the
DPW
had
been
working
on
the
Field
house
w/o
providing
any
effective
silt
fencing
and
the
silt
from
the
construction
was
being
washed
into
the
Rain
Gardens
further
contributing
to
the
lack
of
drainage.
Jeff
Sarrett
noted
that
there
is
another
problem:
due
to
the
lack
of
adequate
parking
people
are
parking
on
the
grass
next
to
the
parking
lot,
which
causes
the
grass
to
be
damaged
and
muddy
ruts
to
form
which
further
exacerbates
the
drainage
problem.
B.
Uhlman
reported
that
Bob
Vogel
had
agreed
to
forward
the
links
to
the
PK
Report
on
the
site
pollution.
3. Anti-‐Idling:
Jim
Greene
reported
that
the
Council
passed
the
proposed
resolution.
He
also
reported
that
Tom
Haralampoudis
told
him
that
the
message
has
been
distributed
to
all
teachers
and
parents
in
the
school
system.
Claire
Whitcomb
noted
that
whatever
was
distributed
was
not
effective.
She
has
children
in
the
school
system
and
did
not
receive
any
notice.
She
suggested
that
maybe
a
presentation
to
the
PTO
might
help.
Missy
Durham
and
Jeff
Gertler
suggested
that
a
more
effective
approach
would
be
to
tell
the
children
to
ask
their
parents
to
stop
idling,
maybe
to
make
it
into
a
science
project
or
to
hand
out
a
card
with
the
facts.
Jim
Greene
stated
that
he
would
contact
the
science
teacher
(interested
in
environmental
issues)
and
the
teacher
of
the
Environmental
Club
at
the
high
school.
C.
Whitcomb
supported
this
idea—she
stated
that
they
are
equipped
to
do
science
projects
like
this.
However,
she
noted
that
an
earlier,
similar
program
at
Central
Ave
School
was
not
effective.
B.
Uhlman
asked
if
it
could
be
included
in
the
Driver’s
Education
classes
given
at
the
high
school.
C.
Whitcomb
noted
that
to
be
effective
we
must
approach
the
issue
from
several
directions
at
once.
M.
Durham
asked
if
there
was
any
hope
of
getting
support
from
the
police.
J.
Sarrett
noted
that
although
idling
is
illegal
there
is
no
fine
so
there
is
little
that
the
police
can
do.
B.
Uhlman
noted
that
in
Sustainable
Madison
they
are
conducting
a
fleet
inventory
and
she
hopes
also
to
raise
awareness
among
Borough
employees
about
idling.
B.
Uhlman
suggested
another
approach
might
be
to
have
a
HS
senior
talk
to
the
middle
or
primary
school
children
to
raise
awareness.
C.
Whitcomb
volunteered
to
write
an
article
for
the
newspaper.
4. Automated
Meter
Reading:
B.
Uhlman
reported
that
our
memo
was
sent
to
the
Council,
but
that
she
received
no
response
yet.
In
addition
to
our
discussion
she
also
mentioned
in
the
memo
our
concern
that
$20
per
month
is
a
high
charge
for
opting
out
of
the
automated
meter
reading.
J.
Greene
noted
that
Con
Ed
charges
based
on
“peak
demand”
which
was
during
the
day
so
they
encouraged
people
to
run
the
dishwasher
and
clothes
washer
in
the
evening
to
reduce
your
rate.
5. Bottle
Hill
Day:
C.
Whitcomb
noted
that
a
teacher
(Nancy
Hill)
has
set
up
a
competition
to
make
posters
about
recycling.
B.
Uhlman
noted
that
the
description
of
what
is
recyclable
in
the
ERI
is
inadequate.
C.
Whitcomb
noted
that
the
description
on
the
Rosenet
website
is
also
not
clear,
and
she
asked
if
it
could
be
upgraded.
B.
Uhlman
stated
that
we
could
clarify
it.
B.
Uhlman
noted
that
we
will
have
a
10’
x
10’
booth
with
tables
and
chairs
which
we
will
be
sharing
with
2
Sustainable
Madison
and
the
Community
Garden.
There
will
be
the
winning
poster
about
recycling
on
display;
brown
bags
for
leaf
collection,
J.
Greene
will
have
written
information
to
hand
out,
S.
Stocker
will
bring
plants
to
hand
out,
C.
Whitcomb
will
bring
a
basket
of
things
that
can
be
recycled
(Jim
Burnett
has
this
display).
We
will
solicit
responses
to
a
survey
of
sustainability
interest
in
preparation
for
a
Green
Forum;
a
raffle
will
be
offered.
6. Sustainable
Madison:
B.
Uhlman
reported
that
Drew
has
a
new
LEED
certified
auditorium,
offered
for
the
Green
Forum.
She
also
reported
that
members
of
Sustainable
Madison
are
working
on
a
Community
Asset
Map,
and
that
they
have
prepared
a
survey
which
will
be
handed
out
and
filled
in
by
interested
passersby
during
the
Bottle
Hill
Day.
Sustainable
Madison
has
also
had
a
meeting
with
Jim
Burnet,
Mr.
Codey,
and
Mr.
Maines.
Steven
Eget
has
been
working
on
a
draft
of
the
Municipal
Carbon
Footprint.
And
a
listing
of
Conservation
Easements
in
town
is
being
prepared.
Traditionally
Environmental
Commissions
have
been
in
charge
of
keeping
track
of
conservation
easements.
Roy
Redmond
noted
that
there
is
a
conservation
easement
on
Madison
Avenue.
B.
Uhlman
stated
that
there
may
be
as
many
as
12
such
easements.
Harriet
Honigfeld
is
going
through
the
county
records
to
identify
them.
Sustainable
Madison
would
like
to
reward
businesses
that
are
following
“green”
principles
and
also
houses
with
great
sustainable
or
native
landscapes.
The
next
Sustainable
Madison
meeting
is
on
November
7th.
7. Water
Conservation:
There
was
general
discussion
on
the
waste
of
water
in
automatic
sprinkler
systems
some
of
which
come
on
even
when
it
is
raining
and
some
of
which
are
on
every
day
or
for
too
long.
J.
Greene
suggested
that
next
spring
there
should
be
a
big
publicity
push
to
highlight
the
importance
of
conservation
of
water
and
odd/even
watering
days.
Claire
Whitcomb
noted
that
would
also
be
a
good
opportunity
to
promote
sustainable
lawn
care.
B.
Uhlman
suggested
establishing
a
meadow
at
the
MRC.
J.
Greene
noted
that
there
are
grasses
that
do
not
need
cutting
which
are
appropriate
for
meadows.
B.
Uhlman
would
like
to
invite
someone
from
Rutgers
to
give
a
course
in
Madison
on
sustainable
lawn
care.
C.
Whitcomb
would
like
to
get
J+M
Plants
to
carry
the
products
mentioned
in
the
course.
8. Orchard
Street:
R.
Redmond
reported
that
excavation
started
on
Monday.
They
found
a
manhole
filled
with
oil
coated
sediment
and
water.
Also
found
cut
open
tanks,
drums,
mattresses,
sewer
pipe
and
other
buried
garbage.
Regarding
the
garage
which
intrudes
on
the
site:
the
owner
was
contacted
and
it
was
offered
to
knock
it
down
for
free.
He
refused.
Then
it
was
offered
to
knock
it
down
and
re-‐build
it
on
his
property.
That
offer
was
also
refused.
Now
the
town
needs
to
condemn
it.
The
excavation
at
that
location
on
the
site
will
have
to
be
6
foot
deep.
Madison
Housing
Authority
must
have
the
environmental
cleanup
done
by
November.
9. Meeting
adjourned:
The
meeting
was
adjourned
at
9:15
pm.
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Madison
Environmental
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MEETING
AGENDA
–
September
27,
2012
Call
to
Order
and
Open
Public
Meetings
Statement
Roll
Call:
Missy
Durham,
Jeff
Gertler,
Jim
Greene,
Susan
Niculescu,
Roy
Redmond,
Jeff
Sarrett,
Stephan
Stocker,
Betsy
Uhlman,
Claire
Whitcomb
Council
Liaison:
Don
Links
Minutes
–The
minutes
of
the
August
30
meeting
are
to
be
submitted
for
approval.
Guests
–Steve
Gabe
Mail
Received
–
Issues
for
Discussion/Correspondence
1. Leaf-‐blowing
noise
management—Steve
Gabe
2. Stormwater
management—MRC
3. Anti-‐idling
measures
4. Automated
Meter
Reading
5. Bottle
Hill
Day
6. Sustainable
Madison
developments
Applications
&
TCC
Plan
Review
Planning
Board
Preliminary
and
Final
Site
Plan
with
Variance
for
135-‐137
Main
St.
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