Park Commission
Regular MeetingMahtomedi, MN · November 16, 2022
Minutes
Approved as presented
MAHTOMEDI PARKS COMMISSION January 18, 2023
MINUTES
NOVEMBER 16, 2022
Vice Chair Costello convened the Park Commission meeting at 6:30 p.m. on Wednesday,
November 16, 2022.
Present were Commissioners: Strehlow, Metz and Fischer,
Also present were: PW Director, Bob Goebel; Council Liaison Lilly Melander; Mahtomedi
Community Ed Director, Kate Andersen; Mahtomedi Residents, Terry Montanari, John Krueger
Absent: Chair Lindberg, Commissioner Charlesworth, Commissioner Thompson, PW Office Asst.,
Jeannie Novak
AGENDA
Upon motion by Commissioner Fischer; seconded by Commissioner Metz all members voting in favor,
the agenda was approved as presented.
MINUTES
Upon motion by Commissioner Fischer; seconded by Commissioner Metz, all members voting in
favor, the September 21, 2022 Park Commission meeting minutes were approved as presented.
STAFF REPORTS
Director Goebel gave a brief update on current public works activities. We’ve been gearing up for
winter, we had three trucks ready to go on Monday and took delivery of a new truck today and should
be on the road next week. This storm was a challenge because it snowed for 42-48 hours straight, not a
lot of snow, more than we anticipated but was hard to deal with. We have wrapped up all of our fall
activities, the parks are all put away, and everything is winterized. The beach is ready for winter, the
access, the fencing and signs are out there for winter access. Fall street sweeping and hydrant flushing
have been completed. We are also gearing up for next year’s projects, one is the Juniper Street
reconstruct from East Avenue to the cul-de-sac that will be a full depth project, we’re going to profile
the road, new curb and gutter, new storm sewer, it’s a big project for a short section of road. Included
in this project is the Gosiwin/Dahlia Trail, the trail that goes from Dahlia to Gosiwin. We are also
going to do the Pickle Ball Courts that we talked about at our last meeting and we are going to install
a new sewage Lift Station in the neighborhood of the Dairy Queen. We came across some very, very
shallow sewers this summer as part of the CSAH12 reconstruct and we determined that we had to do
something as soon as possible. Commissioner Metz asked if this will be a new lift station and Director
Goebel stated that it will be a brand new lift station, these six properties are all served by White Bear
Lake currently, five of the six are in Mahtomedi and one is in White Bear Lake and all five drain to a
central sewer line, it’s not a main line, it just kind of developed when MNDOT reconstructed the road
in 1986, prior to that the services went across the road however the whole area is very, very shallow
and we can’t leave them hanging out there, we’ve got to fix it. We do have some cooperation from the
County for some of the cost as well as White Bear Lake. We are anticipating a change order from the
CSAH12 project that’s still out there and construction early next spring at that time the trail section on
the south side of CSAH12 will be finished and then we will start maintaining it. Right now we are not
going to maintain it, the section from the Dairy Queen to the Marathon Gas Station due to the fact that
it’s dirt.
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STAFF REPORTS Con’t
Commissioner Metz asked when the apartment building going to be done, Director Goebel stated next
year sometime. With that said we had to scramble to get council approval and get funds available, it’s
going to be about a $300,000 project. Director Goebel also stated that PW is busy trying to maintain
all our vehicles and this is the time of year that they do a lot of training, they were in an all-day
training class yesterday for Tree Inspector recertification as well as chainsaw safety. He also stated
that there is one project that we need complete this year and that is the Greenwood ditch that extends
from the Greenwood/McGregor intersection through behind the houses just north of City Hall and
dumps into the ditch right by the Willernie City garage. We’re going to reestablish that creek so that
the water flows better. We’re having a little bit of trouble with Rice Creek Water Shed with the permit
but we feel confident that it will go through. Director Goebel also stated that we are working on a
boulevard tree ordinance, we are trying to determine who is responsible for these trees, they are in the
right-of-way and property owner owns that property but who is responsible for those trees. In the past
we have removed dead and/or diseased trees and we will continue to do pruning, especially on
dangerous trees and obstruction trees. Boulevard Tree Ordinances vary by city, the City of Willernie
says all trees are the homeowners responsibility, the City of Oakdale says all trees in the ROW are the
City’s responsibility. Director Goebel and City Engineer John Sachi will be working on this ordinance
and hopefully have a plan in place next spring. Commissioner Strehlow stated that the City of St.
Paul takes care of everything that is in their ROW and will send some links to their ordinance for
Director Goebel to review. Commission Fischer asked about the trees in town that are marked with
orange ribbon that are to be removed within 30 days. Director Goebel stated it depends on the species
of the tree and believes Emerald Ash Borer and Dutch Elm Disease is between 20 and 30 days and Oak
Wilt has to be removed in the winter. Director Goebel also stated that he is working on our pavement
management plan for next year, we have a list together of what we’re going to crack seal and seal coat,
either a fog seal or a product called Reclamite which is a pavement restorer and also the long line
painting contract as well. We are part of a consortium with Coon Rapids and about 13 other cities so
we are able to get good pricing and Coon Rapids takes care of everything, we just provide them the
data by Feb. 2, 2023. Gosiwin has been put back on the list because of the issues that road has, we will
assess it in the spring and try to keep up on the cracks. Council Liaison Melander asked about the
lights on the trail. Director Goebel stated that he met with contractor today to determine what the
delay is in getting the lights installed. The contractor was waiting for all the supplies to be delivered to
PW and we now have all the supplies, only about 1/3 of the wire has been installed, the contractor is
busy, hoping to be completed by the end of the year. In addition to that the bench pads were put in
already, prior to the snow so they are ready for the memorial benches that will be delivered tomorrow
and should be in place next week. There is a memorial bench going in next to the bridge and another
on Locust Street adjacent to Neville pond, there’s an overlook there and a rest stop for the Lake Links
Trail. And possibly another bench at Streetcar Park. There is a list of donor that want to buy benches
out there and we intend to use this list to replace some of our current aging benches in the City.
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OPEN FORUM
Council Liaison Melander briefed the commission on things going on at City Hall, she stated that the
council is voting to pass the budget at their December 6, 2022 meeting which includes a lot of the stuff
this commission has done with the trails and the pickle ball courts. She also stated that she did get an
email from a constituent asking for better communication because they’re a little upset that the pickle
ball courts are at Wedgewood Park and asked if we asked the neighbors because of noise so I’m going
to work with the City so the community is more involved in our efforts. She also stated that since the
election we have new representatives for Mahtomedi, Representative Patti Anderson and Senator Karin
Housley. Director Goebel stated that he believes that both are going to be invited to a council meeting
in the near future. Council Liaison Melander stated that it will hopefully be in early January before
they get busy and are not able to leave the Capitol and the new school board members as well as the
superintendent will be invited too.
Kate Andersen, Community Ed Director briefed the commission on things happening with
Community Ed. She stated that we do have new school board members, Paul Donna was re-elected,
and Jenny Peterson and Ryan Domin will be taking over for Kevin Donovan and Julie McGraw.
Our Safe Routes to School Planning committee had a big virtual meeting with the County, the City and
some consultants and tons of people from the school district and community members to start looking
at some data that we collected on how many kids are walking, biking, riding to school. And we did
some walkthroughs at each of the elementary schools, St. Jude’s, the High School and Middle School
to see the concerns and issues and that was eye-opening. Next they will look at all that data and
regroup. We are also trying to have a meeting with the County regarding Stillwater Road but they
would prefer us come to the community meetings to talk about it and show representation there.
She also stated that they have heard a lot about the pickle ball courts and how excited everybody is and
why can’t they have them too. She agrees and is trying to figure out how to get pickle ball courts in the
hockey rinks when they’re not being used. We did consult with a couple gentlemen who are very avid
pickle ball people and the concern is the flooring, you can’t play on concrete so we’d have to put
something in and can you put ice over it and what would ice do to it. There is also a possibility that a
pickle ball court could go at OH Anderson. Also asked about having the tennis courts marked for
pickle ball and they are adamantly against that as an option. Commissioner Fischer asked if the extra
parking lot at the fire station could fit a pickle ball court, Director Goebel said we would have to look
at the slope of the lot. He also stated that in the master park plan, the pickle ball space at Wedgewood
Park was always going to be tennis courts. Kate asked if there will be fences, lighting and benches,
Director Goebel stated that there will be no lighting but he believes there will be fencing on both ends
and benches. The contract with WSB for the pickle ball courts was approved last night, they have done
15 pickle ball courts in the last two years so they are extremely familiar with these courts. In addition
we had a meeting with the contractor who takes care of the hockey rinks and that contract will be
approved at the next City Council meeting between the City, Community Ed and Jeff Ersveld.
Replacing the boards on the rinks was also discussed but that is a hockey association decision and Kate
stated that they are ready when Community Ed can help them out with money.
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OPEN FORUM Con’t.
Commissioner Fischer asked about the lights for the trees. Director Goebel stated that he has gotten a
bid for around $5,000 but that there is no money in the budget to do it this year so it will have to wait
until next year.
Director Goebel also stated that the sail boat will be back in Veterans Memorial Park for the holiday
season and will be lit after Thanksgiving and will be removed by the end of March 2023.
NEW BUSINESS
a. Skating Party - Sunday, January 22, 2023 (Back-up date Sunday, January 29th) Vice Chair
Costello stated she would be returning to help and Commission Metz stated that he will again take
care of the pizzas, hot dogs and coffee. Director Goebel stated that Commissioner Charlesworth
will not be available either weekend, Commissioner Metz is unsure at this time if he’ll be in town
or not. There will be two public works crew members working and Director Goebel will also be
there for a while as well. Vice Chair Costello asked if we are able to get the horse hayride this
year. Director Goebel stated that he will talk to our Finance Director to see if there are funds
available, as we know this is something that has never been in the budget and we’ve always gotten
donations but what was once $400 is now $1,200 or more so if you know of anyone that would
want to donate that would be helpful. Commissioner Fischer suggested asking the Lions and/or
the Legion. Commissioner Strehlow stated that he would be available to help as well as Council
Liaison Melander. Vice Chair Costello asked if a music system could be hooked up. Goebel
stated that there is a stereo already there with a large speaker and would just need CD’s. Vice
Chair Costello asked if there are any high school kids/groups that would want help kids do arts
and craft things or possibly snow sculptures. Kate stated that they usually ask the National Honor
Society for things like that and to let her know what she has in mind and Kate will reach out to the
various clubs at school.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
a. Gosiwin Park Playground Update – Mahtomedi resident, John Krueger, 670 Gosiwin Avenue
gave a very lengthy update to the commission regarding a possible playground at Gosiwin Park
including quotes from Flagship Recreation for a good, better and best options. Good being around
$52,000 for a swing set, mini tower and merry go round. The better option is around $90,000 and
the best option is around $130,000. Commissioner Metz asked about what WSB engineering fees
would be and also feels Gosiwin Park is too small. Director Goebel stated that he has not asked
that yet but is guessing it could be around $5,000 to $8,000 but is not sure at this time.
Commissioner Fischer stated that she feel Gosiwin Park may be too small for a playground and
feels Glendale Park could be a better fit. Commissioner Strehlow feels that both parks have
promise for a playground. Commissioner Charlesworth, unable to attend gave his feedback via
Director Goebel and stated that he feels Gosiwin Park is too small and that he’d like to see both
parks kept as green space as we need more green space in the City and that we’ve done four
playgrounds in the not so distant past with another one being planned for 2024 and another in
2025 so that would make six of our eight playgrounds new. After much discussion and input from
the Commission members, present residents and Council Liaison Melander, Upon motion by
Vice Chair Costello, seconded by Commissioner Strehlow, with all members voting in favor
to table this item under unfinished business until they have more information and actual
plans as to what small playground equipment would actually look like in the Gosiwin Park
space.
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UNFINISHED BUSINESS Con’t.
b. Update - Parks Capital Improvement Plan (Trail Improvements) – Director Goebel gave a
brief update on the trail projects. The Dahlia trail project is going to happen next year and we are
applying for a grant right now and John Sachi, WSB City Engineer is quite optimistic that we will
be awarded this grant. This grant is for paving the trail along Briarwood from Quail to the city
limit line of Grant. Also, it would include the Safe Routes to School trail through Katherine
Abbott Park that we’ve been working on. This will be the only paved trail in the park and it will
be from the parking lot leading to Bichner Lane. This will be a 300 foot trail for the kids, there
are dozens of kids that ride this trail every day to and from school. The Dahlia Street trail will be
in the Juniper Street contract, the pickle ball court, the Briarwood Trail and the Katherine Abbott
trail. After that, in 2024 will be the new playground at Echo Lake Park, in 2025 it will be the Safe
Routes to School improvements along Warner Avenue, in 2026, if don’t get a grant before that it
will be the floating boardwalk at Katherine Abbott. He also stated that there will be lighted speed
limit signs going in at OH Anderson.
c. Update - Dwinnell Nature Walk – Director Goebel informed the Commission about the easiest
way to walk this area and the trails to walk on to familiarize themselves with the area. The
Commission decided to table this item until Spring 2023. Upon motion by Vice Chair Costello,
seconded by Commissioner Fischer, with all members voting in favor to table this item
under unfinished business until May 2023.
d. Pickleball Courts – Director Goebel stated that pickle ball courts will be constructed next
spring.
NEXT PARK COMMISSION MEETING
The next Park Commission meeting will be held on Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 6:30 p.m. at
Public Works Facility.
ADJOURNMENT
Upon motion by, Vice Chair Costello; seconded by, Commissioner Metz, all members voting in favor,
the meeting adjourned at 7:55 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted by:
Jeannie Novak
Jeannie Novak, PW Office Assistant
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Agenda
MAHTOMEDI PARKS COMMISSION AGENDA
NOVEMBER 16, 2022
at
Public Works Building
6:30 p.m.
1. CALL TO ORDER 6:30
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES – September 21, 2022 Commission Meeting Minutes
4. STAFF REPORTS
5. OPEN FORUM 6:40
6. NEW BUSINESS 6:45
a. Skating Party – Sunday, January 22, 2023
Back-up date Sunday, January 29th
7. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
a. Update - Gosiwin Park Playground – John Krueger
b. Update - Parks Capital Improvement Plan (Trail Improvements)
c. Update - Dwinnell Nature Walk
d. Update – Pickleball Courts
8. ADJOURNMENT 7:30
9. NEXT COMMISSION MEETING – Wednesday, January 18, 2023
TO: Chair Charlie Lindberg
Members of the Parks Commission
FROM: Bob Goebel, Public Works Director
Jeannie Novak, PW Office Assistant
DATE: November 10, 2022
SUBJECT: PARKS COMMISSION MEETING OF NOVEMBER 16, 2022
A meeting of the Mahtomedi Parks Commission will be held at the Public Works Building on Wednesday,
November 16, 2022 at 6:30 p.m. Please contact Jeannie Novak or myself if you will not be able to attend
this meeting. The following items are in order for consideration at that time.
APROVAL OF AGENDA
The agenda, as presented or modified, is in order for approval by the Commission.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
The minutes of the September 21, 2022 Park Commission meeting are attached for your review.
These minutes, as presented or modified, are in order for adoption by the Commission.
STAFF REPORTS
OPEN FORUM
Commission members wishing to address items not on the agenda or suggest items for future discussion
may do so at this time.
NEW BUSINESS
a. Skating Party – Sunday, January 22, 2023
Back-up date Sunday, January 29th
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
a. Update - Gosiwin Park Playground – John Krueger
b. Update - Parks Capital Improvement Plan (Trail Improvements)
c. Update - Dwinnell Nature Walk
d. Update – Pickleball Courts
MAHTOMEDI PARK COMMISSION MEETING
NOVEMBER 16, 2022
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting will adjourn at or about 7:30 p.m.
NEXT COMMISSION MEETING
The next meeting of the Park Commission will be held on Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 6:30 p.m.
__ Bob Goebel_______________________
Bob Goebel, Public Works Director
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