Board of Aldermen
Regular MeetingManchester, MO · August 20, 2018
Minutes
MINUTES OF THE PUBLIC HEARING OF
MONDAY, AUGUST 20, 2018
AT 200 HIGHLANDS BOULEVARD DRIVE
REGARDING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUEST
FOR A RESTAURANT THAT SERVES ALCOHOL AT
110 OLD MERAMEC STATION ROAD
Mayor Mike Clement called the Public Hearing of the Board of Aldermen to order at 7:00
p.m.
Roll call showed those present were Alderman Huether, Alderman Nolte, Alderman Hamill,
Alderman Ottenad, Alderman Baumann, Alderman Toben, and Mayor Clement. A quorum was
present.
The following notice of the public hearing was then read:
“The City of Manchester Board of Aldermen shall hold a public hearing on
Monday, August 20, 2018 at 7:00 p.m. at the Manchester Police Facility,
200 Highlands Boulevard Drive, to consider the following:
CASE #18-SUP-005 – Frank Imo, owner, has submitted a Special
Use Permit request for a 3,032 square foot restaurant that serves
alcohol to be located on the property at 110 Old Meramec
Station Road, zoned PBD - Planned Business Development District.”
Mayor Clement advised that first the proponents would speak, then the opponents, and
comments from the public, followed by questions from the members of the Board of Aldermen or
the City staff.
Mr. Frank Imo and Mrs. Eva Imo, 5828 Catamuet Court appeared as proponents.
Mr. Imo stated that he has been doing Pizza his whole life and about three years ago he
started doing barbecue because he had a building that he owned with an empty space and he thought
he would put a barbecue place in. He said he decided he would do another one and he thinks this is
the area and the place to go. He found the property and purchased two properties. He just bought the
property where the sno-cone stand was, so he now owns 110 and 126 Old Meramec Station Road.
He said they plan to build an awesome building. They plan to sell beer and wine and will be closing
at 9 pm.
Alderman Hamill stated that the Planning and Zoning Commission approved this request
unanimously.
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Mayor Clement closed the public hearing at 7:03 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Ruth E. Baker, MMC/MPCC
City Clerk
Note: This is a journal of the Public Hearing held August 20, 2018 (summary); not a verbatim
transcript regarding a Special Use Permit Request for a restaurant that serves alcohol at 110 Old
Meramec Station Road. If a recording of the public hearing is desired, please contact City Hall.
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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR BOARD OF ALDERMEN MEETING
MONDAY, AUGUST 20, 2018
AT 200 HIGHLANDS BOULEVARD DRIVE
1. CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Mike Clement called the Regular Board of Aldermen meeting to order at 7:03 p.m.
2. ROLL CALL AND STATEMENT OF QUORUM
Roll call showed those present were Alderman Huether, Alderman Nolte, Alderman Hamill,
Alderman Ottenad, Alderman Baumann, Alderman Toben, and Mayor Clement. A quorum was
present.
3. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
a. Minutes of the August 6, 2018 Public Hearing regarding a proposed subdivision of
single family homes on approximately 11.4 acres in the R-4 Single-Family
Residential Zoning District.
Alderman Hamill made the motion to approve the Minutes of the August 6, 2018 Public
Hearing regarding a proposed subdivision of single family homes on approximately 11.4 acres in
the R-4 Single-Family Residential Zoning District. The motion was seconded by Alderman
Baumann and carried unanimously, without objection.
b. Minutes of the August 6, 2018 Regular Board of Aldermen meeting
Alderman Toben made the motion to approve the Minutes of the August 6, 2018 Regular
Board of Aldermen meeting. The motion was seconded by Alderman Ottenad and carried
unanimously, without objection.
c. Minutes of the August 13, 2018 Special Board of Aldermen meeting
Alderman Ottenad made the motion to approve the Minutes of the August 13, 2018 Special
Board of Aldermen meeting. The motion was seconded by Alderman Baumann and carried
unanimously, without objection.
4. ESTABLISHMENT OF ORDER OF ITEMS ON THE AGENDA
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Alderman Hamill made the motion to approve the order of items on the agenda as submitted.
The motion was seconded by Alderman Nolte and carried unanimously, without objection.
5. CONSIDERATION OF PETITIONS AND COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC
a. Introduction of new police personnel
Chief of Police Timothy Walsh introduced Officer Connor Norman. He was born in
Arlington, Texas, and his father is Police Lieutenant for the Arlington Police Department. Officer
Norman moved to Manchester in 2001 and attended Parkway High School. He attended the Eastern
Missouri Police Academy and recently graduated in July.
Chief Walsh also introduced Todd Roth who will be the weekend records clerk. Many years
ago, Todd was a police officer here, actually from 1988 to 1996, and he left to go to St. Peters. He
retired from St. Peters a few years ago and is coming back to Manchester to work weekends.
b. Presentation for Law Enforcement Torch Run Special Olympics – Ed Barron,
Manager, Manchester Walmart
Chief Walsh stated that another $1,500 donation has just been received from Walmart. In
2018 the total is $13,222, and the total amount since 2006 is more than $118,000. The City’s
residents, as well as its businesses, have highly endorsed and annually stepped up to do their part in
helping the less fortunate.
Chief Walsh thanked the Manchester Walmart, represented by Mr. Ed Barron, the
Manchester store manager. He said Walmart has engaged in a path of generosity for many years
with the Manchester Police Department. They are also a big supporter for a number of years, with
the Manchester Shop-with-a-Cop program.
c. Comments from the Public
There were none.
6. REPORTS FROM THE MAYOR
a. Mayoral Report
Mayor Clement stated that last Sunday night was the final community band concert for this
season. He said they rehearse four separate times, eight hours of formal preparation, and then they
perform so each band member gives many hours to each band performance. He sent a letter out to
each of those band members after the last concert and recognized the investment of time for this
community. He had a really nice letter that came back from Mr. Herb Duncan. Herb Duncan is the
legend of Midwest, of the region, and is known for understanding of marching and community
bands. He plays with Manchester’s community band and loves it.
Mayor Clement stated the City held its second small business gathering last week on
Wednesday. There was good dialogue from the businesses. They heard the same thing at both
meetings they want to build a business group and network.
Mayor Clement stated the City also hosted the West County Chamber of Commerce
Government Affairs and Transportation Forum on Friday morning at the Parks Building. He said
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that was a good turn out with elected officials from around the area. There were aldermen from
Manchester, representatives from the school districts, from fire districts and police departments.
There was a lot of good information. The audience liked the new building.
Mayor Clement reminded everyone that Manchester Homecoming is coming up. It is
September 7 – 9, with the parade on September 8.
Mayor Clement stated he will be hosting his first “Conversation with the Mayor” on
September 12 at 7:30 in the Police Facility. He wants to start talking with the residents as is being
done with the small businesses.
On September 13, Manchester will have a public presentation for Proposition S.
7. REPORTS FROM THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR
a. List of Paid Bills (Warrant dates of August 5 – August 18, 2018)
There were no questions.
8. REPORTS FROM COMMITTEES
a. Planning and Zoning Commission
Alderman Hamill stated there was a meeting and on the agenda was a boundary adjustment
for Smokee Mo’s, which was unanimously approved. The other case was for property at 14401
Manchester Road, it is at Henry and Manchester Road, where Chris Suntrup wants to put in a gas
station, and that was approved unanimously by the Board.
b. Homecoming Committee
Alderman Ottenad stated they did not have a meeting since the last Board meeting, but there
will be a meeting this Wednesday at 6:30 p.m. at the Legion, and everyone is welcome.
9. ACTION ON OLD BILLS
a. AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SUBDIVISION RECORD PLAT
Alderman Toben read for the second time Bill # 18-2341, entitled: “AN ORDINANCE
APPROVING A RECORD PLAT FOR THE BEND AT SULPHUR SPRING SUBDIVISION IN
THE CITY OF MANCHESTER AND AUTHORIZING THE RECORD PLAT TO BE
RECORDED IN THE OFFICE OF THE RECORDER OF DEEDS OF ST. LOUIS COUNTY,
MISSOURI,” by title only.
Alderman Baumann stated that some residents were here for the first reading of this Bill,
and he has met with Director Rippetoe and Alderman Toben, and has gone to the neighborhood and
talked to some of the residents there and haven’t heard any responses back yet. He wanted to make
sure the development has met all the Metropolitan Sewer District requirements and the City has
never had any issues with Flower and Fendler in previous developments in Manchester.
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Alderman Toben stated that he went to adjacent land owners to the property in question and
asked for comments, questions, or concerns about the property. He did not receive one response
back.
Alderman Nolte stated there were four people who spoke at the last meeting about how it
improved their water run off issues.
Alderman Toben made the motion that Bill # 18-2341 become Ordinance # 18-2226. The
motion was seconded by Alderman Ottenad.
A poll of the Board:
Alderman Toben – aye
Alderman Baumann – aye
Alderman Ottenad – aye
Alderman Heuther – aye
Alderman Nolte – aye
Alderman Hamill – aye
Mayor Clement announced the motion passed 6 to 0, with no objections.
10. INTRODUCTION OF NEW BILLS
a. AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CITY’S PURCHASING POLICY
Alderman Nolte introduced Amended Bill # 18-2342, entitled: “AN ORDINANCE
AMENDING THE PURCHASING POLICY OF THE CITY OF MANCHESTER, ARTICLE II OF
CHAPTER 135 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE, TO ALLOW APPROVAL OF NEGOTIATED
BIDS IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS”, by title only.
Alderman Nolte stated this was presented last time in the regular meeting on August 6,
2018, and it has been amended to discuss that the purchasing policy is not to just find the cheapest
bid, but to also find the best value.
Alderman Nolte stated that emergency legislation had been requested. He made a motion for
approval of emergency legislation. The motion was seconded by Alderman Hamill, and carried
unanimously, without objection.
Alderman Nolte read for the second time Amended Bill # 18-2342, entitled: “AN
ORDINANCE AMENDING THE PURCHASING POLICY OF THE CITY OF MANCHESTER,
ARTICLE II OF CHAPTER 135 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE, TO ALLOW APPROVAL OF
NEGOTIATED BIDS IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS”, by title only.
Alderman Nolte made the motion that Bill # 18-2342 become Ordinance # 18-2227. The
motion was seconded by Alderman Ottenad.
A poll of the Board:
Alderman Baumann – aye
Alderman Ottenad – aye
Alderman Heuther – aye
Alderman Nolte – aye
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Alderman Hamill – aye
Alderman Toben – aye
Mayor Clement announced the motion passed 6 to 0, with no objections.
b. BILL APPROVING A BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENT PLAT FOR SMOKEE MO’S
Alderman Hamill introduced Bill # 18-2344, entitled: “AN ORDINANCE APPROVING
THE BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENT PLAT FOR 110 OLD MERAMEC STATION ROAD AND
915 SECOND STREET, TWO TRACTS OF LAND BEING PART OF LOT 10 AND ALL OF
LOTS 7, 8, & 9 IN BLOCK 7 OF TRIPPLETT’S ADDITION TO MANCHESTER SUBDIVISION
IN THE CITY OF MANCHESTER, MISSOURI, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN CONDITIONS”, by
title only.
Alderman Hamill stated that emergency legislation had been requested by the applicant. He
made a motion for approval of emergency legislation. The motion was seconded by Alderman
Nolte, and carried unanimously, without objection.
Alderman Hamill read for the second time Bill # 18-2344, entitled: “AN ORDINANCE
APPROVING THE BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENT PLAT FOR 110 OLD MERAMEC STATION
ROAD AND 915 SECOND STREET, TWO TRACTS OF LAND BEING PART OF LOT 10 AND
ALL OF LOTS 7, 8, & 9 IN BLOCK 7 OF TRIPPLETT’S ADDITION TO MANCHESTER
SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF MANCHESTER, MISSOURI, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN
CONDITIONS”, by title only.
Alderman Hamill made the motion that Bill # 18-2344 become Ordinance # 18-2228. The
motion was seconded by Alderman Ottenad.
A poll of the Board:
Alderman Ottenad – aye
Alderman Heuther – aye
Alderman Nolte – aye
Alderman Hamill – aye
Alderman Toben – aye
Alderman Baumann – aye
Mayor Clement announced the motion passed 6 to 0, with no objections.
c. BILL APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A RESTAURANT THAT
SERVES ALCOHOL AT 110 OLD MERAMEC STATION ROAD
Alderman Hamill introduced Bill # 18-2345, entitled: “AN ORDINANCE CREATING A
SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND GRANTING THE SAME TO 110 OLD MERAMEC STATION
ROAD, LLC TO OPERATE A STANDARD RESTAURANT WITH LIQUOR SALES OR
CONSUMPTION ON THE PREMISES AT 110 OLD MERAMEC STATION ROAD, AS
PROVIDED FOR IN SECTION 405.285(C)(12) OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE
CITY OF MANCHESTER.
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Alderman Hamill stated that emergency legislation had been requested by the applicant. He
made a motion for approval of emergency legislation. The motion was seconded by Alderman
Ottenad, and carried unanimously, without objection.
Alderman Hamill read for the second time Bill # 18-2345, entitled: “AN ORDINANCE
CREATING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND GRANTING THE SAME TO 110 OLD
MERAMEC STATION ROAD, LLC TO OPERATE A STANDARD RESTAURANT WITH
LIQUOR SALES OR CONSUMPTION ON THE PREMISES AT 110 OLD MERAMEC
STATION ROAD, AS PROVIDED FOR IN SECTION 405.285(C)(12) OF THE CODE OF
ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF MANCHESTER” by title only.
Alderman Hamill made the motion that Bill # 18-2345 become Ordinance # 18-2229. The
motion was seconded by Alderman Ottenad.
A poll of the Board:
Alderman Heuther – aye
Alderman Nolte – aye
Alderman Hamill – aye
Alderman Toben – aye
Alderman Baumann – aye
Alderman Ottenad – aye
Mayor Clement announced the motion passed 6 to 0, with no objections.
d. RESOLUTION APPROVING SALE OF PROPERTY AT 915 SECOND STREET
Alderman Nolte introduced Resolution # 18-0641 entitled: “A RESOLUTION
AUTHORIZING THE SALE OF REAL PROPERTY AT 915 SECOND STREET AND
RATIFYING THE EXECUTION OF A SALE CONTRACT RELATING THERETO,
AUTHORIZING THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR OF THE CITY OF MANCHESTER TO
EXECUTE ANY AND ALL OTHER DOCUMENTS RELATING TO THE SALE OF SAID
PROPERTY, AND GRANTING FURTHER AUTHORITY”, by title only.
Alderman Nolte made the motion for approval of Resolution # 18-0641. The motion was
seconded by Alderman Ottenad and carried 6 – 0, with no objections from the Board.
e. BILL AMENDING CODE OF ORDINANCES PERTAINING TO AGE
QUALIFICATION TO BE ELECTED AS AN ALDERMAN TO AGREE WITH
STATE STATUTE
Alderman Huether introduced Bill # 18-2346, entitled: “AN ORDINANCE AMENDING
THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF MANCHESTER BY UPDATING SECTION
110.010 RELATING TO THE QUALIFICATIONS TO BE ELECTED AS AN ALDERMAN IN
THE CITY OF MANCHESTER”, by title only.
No further action at this time.
f. RESOLUTION APPROVING EASEMENT IN BAXTER ACRES PARK FOR
MISSOURI AMERICAN WATER
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Alderman Baumann introduced Resolution # 18-0642, entitled: “A RESOLUTION
DEDICATING AN EASEMENT OVER A PORTION OF CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNED BY
THE CITY OF MANCHESTER, MISSOURI, TO THE MISSOURI AMERICAN WATER
COMPANY AS MORE SPECIFICALLY SHOWN ON EXHIBIT “A” ATTACHED HERETO
AND INCORPORATED HEREIN” by title only.
Alderman Baumann made the motion for approval of Resolution # 18-0642. The motion was
seconded by Alderman Ottenad and carried 6 – 0, with no objections from the Board.
g. BILL AMENDING THE DEER CONTROL POLICY
Alderman Toben introduced Bill # 18-2347, entitled: “AN ORDINANCE AMENDING
THE ARTICLE V OF CHAPTER 205 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE RELATING TO THE
CITY’S DEER CONTROL POLICY AND HUNTING REGULATIONS” by title only.
Alderman Nolte said he thinks this does a good job and looks like a lot of positive changes
in hoping to manage the deer population in Manchester, but the only problem he has is the $1
million insurance to hunt in Manchester. He said he believes it is way too high. He said it use to be
$2 million and since has been lowered to $1 million. He recommended reducing it to $300,000. He
said most homeowners policies have liability insurance for personal liability have $300,000, so it
would not require people to go out and buy a separate policy to hunt deer in Manchester.
Alderman Baumann stated Alderman Nolte is on to something, but that they need to
consider that if someone hits a deer with a bow and arrow, and the deer doesn’t die right away, it is
likely the deer will run onto someone else’s property, and possibly run into someone’s house.
Alderman Nolte made the comment that a deer can run into someone’s house before it is hit
by a bow. He said with a deer as far as hunting goes, there are very few injuries even with firearms.
He said there are also very few injuries with bow hunting.
Alderman Huether asked what the financial burden is to carry $1 million insurance.
Alderman Nolte stated he suspects it would be about $400 to get a specialized policy for a
piece of land in a municipal area for $1 million.
Alderman Huether asked if this kind of situation would fall under general liability.
Alderman Nolte responded that it would fall under general liability insurance.
Alderman Huether asked if the City would be looking to verify the individuals do, in fact,
have insurance.
Alderman Nolte answered there is nothing that requires proof currently. He said most are
going to have homeowners generally but there is no requirement to provide proof.
Alderman Huether stated if someone asked her to hunt on her property she wondered how
she would know if they have insurance.
Alderman Nolte answered that the property owner would ask for proof in order to be on
your property. He said he is not stating it shouldn’t be a requirement, but he believes they should
lower the amount required.
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Alderman Baumann said he agrees with Alderman Huether that there should be a
requirement to provide insurance before someone hunts in Manchester.
Alderman Toben said that in his opinion, he does believe $1 million is high, but they had
discussed $1 million with both the hunter and the property owner collectively. He said he just
renewed his liability on his homeowner’s policy for $1 million, and the cost was $250. He discussed
the hunter’s permission form that they sign as the hunter and the homeowner that states they have
complied with all regulations that were set by the Manchester Ordinance and they do hold liability
insurance. There is not a proof process, but at any time, the Police Department has that information
on file if they get stopped.
Alderman Baumann stated that in the City of Ballwin, they have to check in the Police
Department prior. Alderman Toben stated Manchester will be the same way. He also asked if the
City will be giving a permit and wondered if Manchester should be charging a nominal fee for the
permit.
Mayor Clement answered that the City will not be charging a fee, because it will be a
standard form. He stated the plan is that police clerks would handle the paperwork. He isn’t sure
this would be adding a considerable burden. He said they have spoken a lot. and from his point of
view, as they begin a program like this, there will be a quite a few families that are going to be
concerned, especially those with children. He said they have checked, and most cities are at $1
million for insurance, and it just gives the assurance to those that are going to be fearful that there is
going to be a hunter and it could be that hunter could be fairly close. It is a security blanket to know
that the hunter has insurance.
Alderman Nolte stated that Wildwood has a lower number and Wildwood allows firearms.
Alderman Baumann commented that Wildwood has a lot more property between houses.
Alderman Hamill asked if there is a reason why the City would not require a certificate of
insurance.
Alderman Toben answered that from the discussions that they have had, they are trying to
look at ease of access to the municipality as far as hunting. The way it stands right now, there are
many loop holes that they have to jump through. This is a way where Manchester can connect the
hunter as well as the property owner together, if they come to those terms and they have the correct
amount of insurance, which they should at that time. Really, his opinion is if it is the City business
to regulate that; the City will ask that they have it.
Alderman Baumann stated he is for thinning the herd; however Manchester is a community
not the wildlife. His beliefs are Manchester needs to safeguard the residents, where the City needs
to see the insurance ahead of them hunting.
Alderman Toben stated he understands Alderman Baumann’s feelings but he is also
concerned with children driving down the road and swerving and hurting themselves or someone
else to miss a deer. He also said that Manchester’s connection at Missouri Conservation Department
has said no other county besides St. Louis County in all of the United States has a liability policy
requirement.
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Director of Public Works Bob Ruck explained that he heard the word “Permitting”. The City
is not actually issuing a permit. It is a permission slip between the homeowner and the hunter and
when that is completed they submit it to the Police Department, and if everything is right, then the
Police Department just records it and holds it for verification if someone should call in and say there
is someone hunting on the property.
Alderman Hamill stated this seems to be more of a notification process which takes place
between the hunter and the homeowner.
Director Ruck stated it is giving the City a record of knowing who is out there so we can get
the deer reports coming if someone does get a deer and reports it. This is a way of tracking it for the
Conservation Department.
Alderman Nolte stated that this is also subject to Missouri State Laws and the Missouri
Department of Conservation laws. There is only deer hunting during certain times of year. The City
would not allow deer hunting all year around in Manchester; everything is still subject to State Law.
Alderman Ottenad stated she would be more comfortable with requiring the insurance and
providing it.
Alderman Toben stated the hypothetical possibilities of an actual accident happening is
relativity low, where as in your vehicle there is a high probability of that happening.
Mayor Clement stated this was designed to make it easier for the hunter.
Alderman Nolte said that if the amount would be a reasonable amount, most people are
going to have it by default. He said he would not be against having the homeowner prove they have
the insurance.
Alderman Ottenad asked about approval from trustees.
Alderman Nolte asked which trustee would have the ability to approve.
Mayor Clement stated he doesn’t think Manchester can impose that on the trustees.
Chief of Police Timothy Walsh stated that the State has complete control over the permitting
process. He said that the Police Department has authority to enforce hunting regulations.
Alderman Huether asked, based on the experience of other municipalities who are doing
this, about how many hunters might hunt in Manchester.
Mayor Clement stated from what we know from other communities who do the same, it will
require some promoting and pushing this out into the community. He said some communities do not
have a lot of luck if you leave it to luck. So not only do we need to make it easier but we have to
make it known to the trustees, hunters and residents. It will require some luck.
Alderman Toben stated other municipalities around us are cutting their regulations to a
significant degree. Manchester will still be considered more stringent than Chesterfield, for
instance.
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Director Ruck stated Chesterfield recently went to a half acre.
Alderman Toben stated as he sits on the Board, and for people who are not hunters, there is
still a pretty significant amount of hoops to jump through, and he doesn’t see a big flock of hunters
that are going to say they want to hunt because some of the regulations have been cut in half.
Alderman Heuther stated that it sounds like the number of hunters anticipated will be small,
so it doesn’t feel like an undue burden on the City to insure the guidelines are being followed. If we
are getting notice that there are three hunters in the weekend during hunting season, it seems like we
would have the capacity to go by and see if they are following the regulations.
Alderman Toben stated that, as a hunter himself, most hunters are very ethical people and
they do follow the guidelines; they do follow the rules. He said if they are going to take police
officers’ time to enforce regulations on hunters, he can guarantee there will not be one hunter who
will show up; this is the idea of having a police escort.
Alderman Heuther stated she is not talking about a police escort, but she thinks there will be
concerns with people hunting in our neighborhoods. She said she needs to be educated on this.
Mayor Clement stated that this is private property, not public property. He is not sure that
asking the Police Department to make a drive through of the City is as effective as we might think it
could be. This is a relationship between the hunter and the property owner and there needs to be
dialog between them.
No further action at this time.
11. MISCELLANEOUS
a. Comments from the Public
Mr. Lou Salamone, 319 Quinnmoor Drive, stated that he is the owner of Suburban
Bowhunters and has been doing this for 17 years in St. Louis County. Clarkson Valley in 2004,
Chesterfield 2005, Creve Coeur, Ellisville, Sunset Hills and Wildwood, they hunt everywhere. He
turns in his insurance certificates to a lot of these cities, but not Wildwood or the unincorporated
areas. He said it was mentioned about the $300,000 homeowner’s liability. He said individuals can
get an umbrella and he knows people who do this just for the hunting season. He said an umbrella is
normally about $300 a year for a homeowner. He said his is $300 a year, or $80 for four months. He
said that he would suggest hunters do that for safety.
Mr. Salamone stated Creve Coeur is trying to get rid of the insurance requirement, which he
is not suggesting, because they are trying to get more people interested. He likes the removal of bow
hunter education, because that alone will get more bow hunters to come. He said he likes the one
acre requirement and notifying the neighbor.
Alderman Baumann asked about proof of insurance.
Mr. Salamone stated he turns in the notification. He turns in the hunter information and the
property where he is hunting. He said it is not the easiest thing in the world, but they do it.
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Mayor Clement asked who turns in the insurance information.
Mr. Salamone said he does that himself for all the hunters. He said some cities require
identification, but he believes that it is senseless. The police know from the license plate or driver’s
license, so they know who is hunting and who should be there.
Mr. Chris Winters, 510 Cardinal Lane, said he assumes the hunter needs to have the State
permit also.
Alderman Nolte said the hunter is not allowed to retrieve a deer from another person’s land
without permission.
Mayor Clement stated if a deer was to die on someone’s property, other than where the hunt
was being allowed, then the hunter contacts the Police Department and notifies them.
12. EXECUTIVE SESSIONS:
a. Closed Session: Pursuant to Section 610.021 (1) of the Revised Statutes of the State
of Missouri pertaining to legal actions, causes of action or litigation involving a
public governmental body and any confidential or privileged communication
between a public governmental body or its representatives and its attorneys; and
Section 610.021 (3) of the Revised Statutes of the State of Missouri pertaining to the
hiring, firing, disciplining or promoting of particular employees by a public
governmental body when personal information about the employee is discussed or
recorded.
Alderman Hamill made the motion to go into Closed Session: Pursuant to Section 610.021
(1) of the Revised Statutes of the State of Missouri pertaining to legal actions, causes of action or
litigation involving a public governmental body and any confidential or privileged communication
between a public governmental body or its representatives and its attorneys; and Section 610.021
(3) of the Revised Statutes of the State of Missouri pertaining to the hiring, firing, disciplining or
promoting of particular employees by a public governmental body when personal information about
the employee is discussed or recorded. The motion was seconded by Alderman Toben.
A poll of the Board showed:
Alderman Nolte – aye
Alderman Hamill – aye
Alderman Toben – aye
Alderman Baumann – aye
Alderman Ottenad – aye
Alderman Heuther – aye
Mayor Clement announced the motion passed 6 to 0, with no objections.
13. ADJOURNMENT
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At 9:04 p.m., after the Executive Sessions, there being no further business, Alderman Hamill
made the motion to adjourn. The motion was seconded by Alderman Baumann and carried
unanimously, without objection. The meeting adjourned at 9:04 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Ruth E. Baker, MMC/MPCC
City Clerk
Note: This is a journal of the Board of Aldermen meeting held Monday, August 20, 2018
(summary); not a verbatim transcript. If a recording of the meeting is desired, please contact City Hall.
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