Harbor Commission
Regular MeetingManistee, MI · October 17, 2017
Minutes
HARBOR COMMISSION MINUTES
MEETING OF OCTOBER 17, 2017
A regular meeting of the Manistee Harbor Commission was held on Tuesday, October 17, 2017
at 1:00 p.m. in the Second Floor Conference Room, City Hall, 70 Maple Street, Manistee MI
49660. The meeting was called to order by the Chair.
Roll Call Present Excused Absence Unexcused Absence
Commissioner Fritz Boehm
Commissioner Ty Cook
Commissioner Tim Kozal
Commissioner Jim Smith
Commissioner Alex Zaccanelli
Commissioner Glenn Zaring
Commissioner Roger Zielinski
City Manager Thad Taylor
OTHERS PRESENT: DPW Director Jeff Mikula, Maralee Cook
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION by Roger Zielinski, second by Jim Smith, to amend the agenda to move the discussion
of Patio Options / Cost Estimates to the first item of business. Voice vote - Motion carried.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS None
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION by Jim Smith, second by Roger Zielinski, to approve the minutes for the August 15,
2017 meeting as presented. Voice vote - Motion carried.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
Marina Patio Options / Cost Estimates. Jeff Mikula reviewed the memo prepared by Engineer
of Record, Shawn Middleton, providing several options and cost estimates for the patio and
storm water management. Discussed various options, previous measures taken to address wet
area, potential for erosion, and access to the patio area. Jeff left the meeting at 1:20 p.m.
STAFF REPORTS
Harbormaster. Marina Manager Laura Brennan and staff did a wonderful job again this year.
Hoping that Laura will stick around for at least one more year. Provided 2016 and 2017 Harbor
Occupancy reports and the current balance sheet for the Marina fund. While the number of boats
were down, more revenue was received. Believed to be a result of larger boats using the
facilities. Shared a few customer survey cards, staff continues to receive high marks, the only
negative was the condition of the docks.
City Manager. Launch ramp revenue report distributed. The number of permits were down from
last year for both seasonal and daily; as well as total revenue. This could be attributed to the
negative press on the area fishery. Contrary to DNR warnings, the fish were plentiful and of
good size. General discussion on fishery meetings.
Harbor Commission Minutes – October 17, 2017 Page 1
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
Marina Dock Repairs / Replacement. Received a quote for gas dock repairs at $1,250; will
work toward completing these repairs for next season. Extensive discussion on needed
repairs, water levels, metal vs. wood pilings, floating docks, and the fact that there are no
funds available to match grant funding. Tim Kozal will put together a plan for future dock
replacement.
Sponsorship Idea for Marina Patio Area. Harbor Commission needs to decide on a course of
action/plan so that this committee can solicit sponsors/donations. Looking at approximately
$11,000 to $15,000 using concrete as the best option and addressing storm water and access.
Also discussed the need for donor recognition with a plaque and publicity. The committee
will form a plan to solicit funds using this information.
NEW BUSINESS
Marina – Slip Rates for 2018. Slip rates are set by the State. The marina has been at the “C”
rate for many years and is lower than other marinas around us. The Harbormaster is
recommending that the Marina move to the “D” rate for the next season. Seasonal slip rates
will not increase.
MOTION by Jim Smith, second by Roger Zielinski, that the Harbor Commission endorses
increasing the 2018 slip rates to level “D.” Voice vote – Motion carried.
Set Meeting Dates for 2018. MOTION by Roger Zielinski, second by Jim Smith to accept the
2018 meeting dates as presented. Voice vote – Motion carried.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Maralee Cook – Provided a wrap-up of her services as the Marketing Vendor. Has enjoyed
this and will continue to post items of interest on the Facebook page; no boosted posts. Both
Frank Post and Cindy Lokovich have been active participants on Facebook. Hard to
determine what impact this has had but the number of followers has increased immensely.
OTHER COMMENTS None
ADJOURNMENT
Next meeting is scheduled for January 16, 2018 at 1:00 p.m. in the Second Floor Conference
Room, City Hall, 70 Maple Street, Manistee, Michigan.
MOTION to adjourn by Roger Zielinski, second by Jim Smith at 2:10 p.m.
Cynthia Lokovich, CAP-OM
Recording Secretary
Harbor Commission Minutes – October 17, 2017 Page 2
Agenda
Manistee Harbor Commission
Agenda
Tuesday, October 17, 2017 at 1:00 p.m. – Second Floor Conference Room
City Hall, 70 Maple Street, Manistee MI 49660
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Call to Order
Approval of Agenda
Public Comments on Agenda Items (5 minute limit)
Approval of Minutes
Minutes of August 15, 2017
Reports
Harbormaster – Review of Boating Season (slip days and revenue)
City Manager – Launch Ramp Revenue
Unfinished Business
Marina Dock Repairs / Replacement
Patio Options / Cost Estimates – DPW Director / City Engineer
Sponsorship Idea for Marina Patio Area – Glenn Zaring & Ty Cook
New Business
Marina – Slip Rates for 2018
Set Meeting Dates for 2018
Public Comment (5 minute limit)
Comments by Harbor Commissioners
Adjourn
Strategic Plan Action Items:
1.1.1 Ordinance Review 4.1.2 Change of Focus
1.1.2 Recruitment 4.1.3 Early & Late Season
2.1.1 Skid Piers 5.1.1 Around the Lake Discussions
2.1.2 Docks 5.1.2 Sister Marina
2.1.3 Boat Launches 5.1.3 Reach Out to Key Stakeholders
3.1.1 Loss Revenue 6.1.1 Update Website Info
3.1.2 Revenue Sources 6.1.2 Marina Relationships / DDA
3.1.3 Expenses 6.1.3 Update Info in Visitors Guide
4.1.1 Transient Users Needs
HARBOR COMMISSION MINUTES
MEETING OF AUGUST 15, 2017
A regular meeting of the Manistee Harbor Commission was held on Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at
1:00 p.m. in the Second Floor Conference Room, City Hall, 70 Maple Street, Manistee MI
49660. The meeting was called to order by the Chair.
Roll Call Present Excused Absence Unexcused Absence
Commissioner Fritz Boehm
Commissioner Ty Cook
Commissioner Tim Kozal
Commissioner Jim Smith
Commissioner Alex Zaccanelli
Commissioner Glenn Zaring
Commissioner Roger Zielinski
City Manager Thad Taylor
OTHERS PRESENT: Marketing Vendor Maralee Cook, Ed Tegler
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION by Jim Smith, second by Glenn Zaring, to approve the agenda as presented. Voice
vote - Motion carried.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS None
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION by Jim Smith, second by Glenn Zaring, to approve the minutes for the July 18, 2017
meeting as presented. Voice vote - Motion carried.
STAFF REPORTS
Harbormaster. Hired one more staff member, still one short. Met with Swidorski on marina
docks. Requested a cost estimate, using a phased approach, for dock/piling repairs and/or
replacement. The estimate to do one dock is $24,000; $1,250 just for the gas dock area. Has
discussed grant options with the Waterways Commission. Matching funds are not available.
Discussed options, floating docks, etc.
Very good comments on staff from recent survey cards; dock issues were also mentioned.
Marina has been full.
Some MAC racers stopped on their way back.
No issues with recent events held near or on marina property.
Glenn Zaring noted that Frank Beaver of the Little River Band of Ottawa Indians could be a
good contact for grants or funding options.
Kozal noted the recently reported “sheen” in the river channel was coming from a source
upstream of the marina.
Discussed catamaran races at First Street Beach. Jim Smith noted this event was in direct
violation of city ordinances for camping and fires on the beach. No sense having ordinances
if they are not enforced. Ed Tegler noted that City Council and the Parks Commission gave
their blessings for the event on a trial basis.
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Discussed dogs on the Riverwalk.
Police Department continues to monitor launch ramp parking lot and issues citations when
necessary.
City Manager. Launch ramp revenue report distributed.
Marketing Vendor. Maralee Cook provided a written update for marketing efforts in July and
August. Marketing efforts will be reviewed at the end of the season for effectiveness. Noted that
boosted posts resulted in more followers to the Marina Facebook page.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
Sponsorship Idea for Marina Patio Area. Glenn Zaring reported that the requested estimates
from the DPW Director had not yet been received.
NEW BUSINESS
Marina – Seasonal Allotment. The City Marina currently uses 8 seasonal docks. The State of
Michigan advised that the City had previously been approved for 10 seasonal slips. Tim
Kozal asked the Commission to consider increasing the number of seasonal slips to 10.
Discussion followed, if more seasonal slips are warranted following the season, we can
approach the State to increase the number allowed.
MOTION by Glenn Zaring, second by Fritz Boehm, that the Harbor Commission endorses
increasing the number of seasonal slips at the Municipal Marina to ten. Voice vote – Motion
carried.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Ed Tegler – As a new boater on a recent trip up and down the river channel, he noted that
there was no place for someone to tie up and take a look downtown or get something to eat.
Members noted that if space is available staff at the City Marina will allow temporary
dockage as a courtesy. Discussed good and bad points of signage for a courtesy dock.
Suggestion to approach the DDA to rent a seasonal dock or provide other courtesy dockage
along the river. Tegler noted that all the negative Private Do Not Enter signs along the river
are not inviting to the general boater.
OTHER COMMENTS
Ty Cook requested a review of season numbers for slip days and revenue at the next meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
Next meeting is scheduled for October 17, 2017 at 1:00 p.m. in the Second Floor Conference
Room, City Hall, 70 Maple Street, Manistee, Michigan.
MOTION to adjourn by Jim Smith, second by Glenn Zaring at 1:40 p.m.
Draft – cl
Cynthia Lokovich, CAP-OM
Recording Secretary
Harbor Commission Minutes – August 15, 2017 Page 2
BOAT LAUNCH REVENUES
2012 - 2013 Rate Structure: $5 / Daily, $35 / Seasonal
2013 - 2016 Rate Structure: $10 / Daily, $40 / Seasonal
2017 BOAT LAUNCH REVENUE (As of 10/9/17)
PRESEASON MAY JUNE JULY AUGUST SEPTEMBER TOTALS
Seasonal Permits 42 = $1,680 148 = $5,920 79 = $3,160 99 = $3,960 146 = $5,840 19 = $760 533 = $21,320
Daily Permits 0 86 = $860 101 = $1,010 226 = $2,260 534 = $5,340 290 = $2,900 1,237 = $12,370
Annual Total $33,690
2016 BOAT LAUNCH REVENUE
PRESEASON MAY JUNE JULY AUGUST SEPTEMBER TOTALS
Seasonal Permits 113= $4,520 63 = $2,520 102 = $4,080 91 = $3,640 159 - $6,360 35 = 1,400 563 = $22,520
Daily Permits 41 = $410 72 = $720 106 = $1,060 229 = $2,290 732 = $7,320 383 = 3,830 1,563 = $15,630
Annual Total $38,150
2015 FIRST STREET BOAT LAUNCH REVENUE
PRESEASON MAY JUNE JULY AUGUST SEPTEMBER TOTALS
Seasonal Permits 84 = $3,360 69 = $2,760 78 = $3,120 106 = 4,240 109 = $4,360 52 = $2,080 498 = $19,920
Daily Permits 31 = $310 39 = $390 64 = $640 219 = 2,190 338 = $3,380 459 = $4,590 1,150 = $11,500
Annual Total $31,420
2014 FIRST STREET BOAT LAUNCH REVENUE
PRESEASON MAY JUNE JULY AUGUST SEPTEMBER TOTALS
Seasonal Permits 35 = $1,400 113 = $4,520 95 = $3,800 126 = $5,040 159 = $6,360 22 = $880 550 = $22,000
Daily Permits 0 65 = $650 100 = $1,000 198 = $1,980 687 = $6,870 255 = $2,550 1,305 = $13,050
Annual Total $35,050
2013 FIRST STREET BOAT LAUNCH REVENUE
PRESEASON MAY JUNE JULY AUGUST SEPTEMBER TOTALS
Seasonal Permits 39 = $1,365 78 = $2,730 54 = $1,890 104 = $4,160 224 = $8,960 23 = $920 522 = $20,025
Daily Permits 14 = $70 137 = $685 109 = $545 199 = $1,990 734 = $7,340 285 = $2,850 1,478 = $13,480
Annual Total $33,505
Updated: October 9, 2017
BOAT LAUNCH REVENUES
2012 - 2013 Rate Structure: $5 / Daily, $35 / Seasonal
2013 - 2016 Rate Structure: $10 / Daily, $40 / Seasonal
2012 FIRST STREET BOAT LAUNCH REVENUE
PRESEASON MAY JUNE JULY AUGUST SEPTEMBER TOTALS
Seasonal Permits 31 = $1,085 89 = $3,115 69 = $2,415 150 = $5,250 96 = $3,360 8 = 280 443 = $15,505
Daily Permits 0 114 = $570 137 = $685 687 = $3,435 1,279 = $6,395 626 = $3,130 2,843 = $14,215
Annual Total $29,720
Updated: October 9, 2017
MEMO
TO: Jeff Mikula, DPW Director, City of Manistee
Tim Kozal, Public Safety Director, City of Manistee
FROM: Shawn Middleton, PE, Spicer Group Inc.
DATE: October 2nd, 2017
RE: Manistee Municipal Marina – Patio Surface Treatment Recommendations
BACKGROUND
We have been requested to evaluate options for improving the surface of an unimproved area adjacent to
the City of Manistee’s Municipal Marina Building. This area is bounded by the Marina building to the
east, the barrier free access ramp to the north and a retaining wall to the west. Please refer to the sketch
below and attached photographs depicting this location.
It is our understanding the Harbor Commission wishes to utilize this space as a patio and provide for
outside seating. Any proposed surface would need to accommodate chairs and tables and be barrier free.
Access to this area could be provided by providing an opening in the current handicap accessible ramp or
providing an access via ramps and/or steps from the existing sidewalk located to the north.
Additionally, this location is prone to being inundated with water and in the past, has experienced some
flooding. A new roof gutter system was installed earlier this year and the downspout from these gutters
discharged to the southerly end of this unimproved area. After installation of the gutter and downspout
system a pipe was connected to the downspout and directed to an infiltration barrel. This barrel was
buried in the approximate center of the unimproved area.
City of Manistee Municipal Marina – Location of Proposed Surface Improvements (Green)
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ALTERNATIVES
Stormwater/Groundwater Management
If a permanent improved surface is to be installed at this location it will be important to ensure stormwater
runoff from the roof or adjacent areas is not allowed to directly discharge onto or under the proposed
surface. Prolonged moisture on or beneath any of the proposed surface treatments will likely result in
shortening the design life of the material.
A. Extend Westside Gutter to the Existing Downspout on North Side of Building
An option to remove the source of stormwater runoff from this area could be to modify the gutter
along the west side of the building and wrap it around, creating positive drainage to the north side
of the building to utilize the existing downspout located east of the entrance way.
This option would be dependent on being able to provide an adequate slope over this distance and
will require using an adequate gutter size to handle the estimated stormwater runoff from this roof
area. We are assuming this option was previously evaluated and it was determined not feasible
for these or other reasons.
B. Install Permanent Drain and Underdrain from Existing Downspout to the River.
Since access to any pipe or stormwater collection system will be difficult to access after
installation of a permanent surface at this location we recommend a permanent pipe be installed
from the downspout under the proposed surface with a direct outlet to the river. This option will
ensure no water is collecting on or under the proposed surface.
We recommend this pipe should be a minimum 6 inches in diameter, non-perforated pipe of
either PVC or Dual Wall HDPE material. The pipe should be non-perforated to prevent any roof
water from leaving the pipe and reentering the ground beneath the proposed surface resulting in
potential impacts to the proposed surface from below.
We also recommend a separate 4-inch perforated tile with sock be ran alongside this pipe to act as
an underdrain for this area. This pipe would ensure any potential high groundwater in the area is
captured and conveyed away to the River. This pipe could be reconnected to the non-perforated
roof drain pipe using a wye connection at a point that is downstream of the proposed patio area.
This option will require a penetration of the existing seawall and either mining under the sidewalk
or removing and replacing a portion of the sidewalk to install.
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Surface Treatment Options for the Unimproved Area
Several Options exist for installing a surface that would be suitable for a patio while also providing for
adequate drainage either through the proposed surface or by sloping the proposed surface to a drain or
spillway. The following are some options that could be considered for the proposed improvements.
A. Composite Wood Decking or PVC Dock Decking
Standard composite wood decking could be an option for this area. Standard deck construction
could be used to install this surface. This would require the installation of joists, beams and
columns to support the system. This system could be installed level and drainage would be
through the joints in the decking to the underdrained unimproved ground below.
Estimated cost per square foot installed: $25-30/SFT
B. Pervious Pavers
Typical block pavers could be placed at this location. They can be installed to be pervious by
using blocks with open cells or open joints that are backfilled with a pervious media such as pea
stone or similar material. Like pervious concrete, water is transferred vertically through the
pavers to a pervious compacted base material below. Pervious pavers will require maintenance in
the long term when they become blocked with debris. Since the pervious material is removable,
maintenance would consist of vacuuming the paved surface with a special street sweeper type
machine. If the surface fails for some reason, it would be relatively simple to remove and replace
the necessary pavers, replace the top few inches of pervious material, if required, and reset the
pavers. Pavers can be selected and designed to be aesthetically pleasing through the use of
patterns and designs
Estimated cost per square foot installed: $12-$14/ SFT
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C. Grassed Pavers
Block pavers with open areas can also be used to provide for a green grassed surface. Pavers
with open joints or cells would typically have the bottom ½ or 2/3 filled with pea stone and the
top ½ or 1/3 filled with topsoil that would be seeded and allowed to grow. The resulting
appearance is a mix of grass and block pavers. This system is dependent on the ability to grow
grass at this location and if grass is able to grow will require maintenance by mowing.
Estimated cost per square foot installed: $10-$12/ SFT
D. Grassed Geocellular Surface
This alternative involves the use of a geocellular materials. These materials are made of strong
plastic and unfold to create cells. These cells can be filled with stone and topsoil similar to the
openings in pavers. This system would result in a surface that appears to be a typical grass
surface, but has added strength provided by the geocellular system and stone backfill. Similar to
the grassed pavers this system is dependent on the ability to grow grass at this location and if
grass is able to grow will require maintenance by mowing.
Estimated cost per square foot installed: $8-$10/ SFT
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E. Pervious Concrete
Pervious Concrete is a potential option for this location. Pervious concrete allows stormwater to
flow vertically through the concrete to the subbase below. The subbase would typically be
compacted sand to allow for drainage to underdrains or the water table below. Pervious concrete
can require maintenance over time. If the pore spaces become blocked over time they may need
to be cleaned by vacuum or high pressure washing techniques.
Estimated cost per square foot installed: $8-$12/ SFT
F. Conventional Concrete
Conventional Concrete is an option at this location provided the base is underdrained and
adequate slope is provided to drain the surface. The surface of the concrete would need to be
sloped in a manner to drain away from the building. For this relatively small site this could be
accomplished by sloping the concrete to the west and northwest and allowing water to runoff onto
the grass or a drain could also be installed in the center of the patio area and connected to the roof
drain outlet. Concrete could also be stained or finished as desired to improve the appearance.
Estimated cost per square foot installed: $4-$10/ SFT
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RECOMMENDATIONS
Stormwater/Groundwater Management
Unless it is feasible to convey the additional roof water around to the downspout on the north side of the
building we would recommend a permanent pipe and underdrain (Option B) be installed from the existing
downspout to the river. For planning purposes, we would estimate the cost of construction to range
between $2,000 and $5,000. Since this is a small project and will be driven by mobilization as much as
the unit pricing we highly recommend obtaining quotes or bids from a contractor for planning or
budgeting purposes.
Surface Treatment Options for the Unimproved Area
The recommended option for the proposed surface treatment will be dependent on a balance of costs,
maintenance, longevity, and appearance. Therefore, it is difficult for us to make this determination. This
decision will ultimately need to be determined by the stakeholders. However, we can provide the
following input for the stakeholders to use in the decision-making process.
The grassed surface options would provide a natural looking setting, though it may be difficult to fully
establish uniform grass growth in some areas. There are currently areas where grass is not fully
established. In addition, mowing of this area would require the removal of chairs and tables if that were
to become the preferred use in the summer. These surfaces, though reinforced with pavers or GeoCelluar
systems could be soft in locations for chairs and tables.
Pervious concrete is typically more expensive and takes special installation techniques. Similar results
can be obtained from pervious pavers using stone to fill in open cells and joints. Therefore, if a
permeable surface is recommended it may be more cost effective and potentially more aesthetically
pleasing to use pervious pavers.
The use of composite/PVC decking or conventional concrete would ensure a sound stable surface is
provided for any potential use of this area. A deck system would require the installation of columns,
beams, and joists, but would not require the existing subbase material to be replaced or compacted. A
concrete system would require a compacted sand base with underdrainage and the surface would need to
be graded for positive drainage. A deck appearance could be enhanced by using varying deck board
colors and patterns. A concrete surface could also be enhanced by using various staining and texturing
techniques.
There is an estimated 620 square feet of surface area that could be improved. Using the range of unit
costs and assuming some demolition items for the existing rail/wall at the ramp, grading, restoration, etc.
the surface improvement could range from $3,000 to $18,600 to install. Since this is a small site and
mobilization and unit costs could vary we would highly recommend obtaining quotes or bids from a
contractor.
Please refer to the attached sketch for the approximate location of the roof drain outlet and underdrain
improvements.
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MANISTEE CITY HARBOR COMMISSION
2017 MEETING SCHEDULE
Chapter 266 of the Manistee Code of Ordinances requires the Commission to meet at
least quarterly each year, and more frequently as needed. The date and time of each
meeting will, where practicable, be agreed upon by the consensus of the Commission and
City Staff assigned to the Commission. Consensus to schedule quarterly meetings in
January, April, July and October on the Third Tuesday of the month, and also during the
Marina season in June and August. Additional meetings can be scheduled as necessary.
Meetings are held in the Second Floor Conference Room, City Hall at 1 p.m.
January 16, 2018 April 17, 2018 June 19, 2018
July 17, 2018 August 21, 2018 October 16, 2018
This notice is given pursuant to provisions of the Michigan Open Meetings Act.
Posted _________________, 2017
__________________________________
Cindy Lokovich, Secretary
Manistee Harbor Commission
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