Historic District Commission
Regular MeetingManistee, MI · November 17, 2011
Minutes
HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
Council Chambers, City Hall
70 Maple Street
Manistee, MI 49660
SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES
November 17, 2011
A Special Meeting of the Manistee City Historic District Commission was held on Thursday, November
17, 2011 at 3:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street, Manistee, Michigan.
Meeting was called to order at 3:00 p.m. by Chair Kracht.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Dave Carlson, T. Eftaxiadis, Teena Kracht, John Perschbacher
Members Absent: Maria DeRee (excused), (2) vacancies
Historic Vogue
Theatre Members: Cyndy Fuller, Chair; Barry Lind, President; Jim Draze, Vice President; and Frank
Greco, Secretary
Others: Kendra Thompson (Kendra Thompson Architects), Jon Rose (Community
Development), Mark Fedder (Manistee County Historical Museum), Steve Harold
(Manistee County Historical Museum) and Denise Blakeslee (Planning & Zoning)
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by T. Eftaxiadis that the Agenda be approved as prepared.
With a voice vote this motion passed unanimously
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by T. Eftaxiadis that the Minutes of the September 15, 2011
Meeting be approved.
With a voice vote this motion passed unanimously
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NEW BUSINESS:
HDC-2011-17 Vogue Theater, 383 River Street – Request for Certificate of Appropriateness Façade
Modifications
The Vogue Theater, 383 River Street is requesting approval from the Historic District Commission for
Façade Modifications to the building at 383 River Street as submitted with Application HDC-2011-17.
Cyndy Fuller, Chair Historic Vogue Theatre – Ms. Fuller spoke to the Commission about the new
proposal for façade modifications. The set-back has been maintained in accordance with the
expressed requirements from the Historic District Commission Members at the Special Worksession.
Kendra Thompson (Architect) – Ms. Thompson updated the commission on housekeeping items:
Some brick work has been done after it was discovered that there were loose bricks
immediately below coping. Brick is being removed down to stable brick.
Taking parapet wall down to roof deck where it’s unstable. Will rebuild with wood-stucco
work to be completed in the spring.
Ms. Thompson discussed the request:
The request is for the North Façade improvements only exclusive of sign and marquee.
Doors are 30” – Power actuation is required and both leaves will open to meet Accessibility
Requirements.
Upper Windows are similar to Kawneer 450/451 widows. Windows in the bathrooms will be
frosted glass.
They will recreate the round medallions on the front
They will extend the canopy banner panel with neon
Doors will require four lites due to the height of the ticket counter
Showed Commissioners an aluminum cross section of aluminum window and paint sample
(paint will be baked on)
There will not be handles on the ticket booth to eliminate any confusion for the Fire
Department in the event of an emergency
MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by T. Eftaxiadis to approve the request from the Vogue
Theater, 383 River Street for a Certificate of Appropriateness for Façade Modifications as submitted
with Application HDC-2011-17with the condition that the current entrance doors be stored for
potential re-use.
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With a roll call vote this motion passed 4 to 0.
Yes: Carlson, Perschbacher, Eftaxiadis, Kracht
No: None
Ms. Fuller discussed with the Commission the Marquee Signage and what options the Commission
would consider for approval.
Ms. Blakeslee entered the meeting.
The Commission discussed the possible options:
Lower the sign so that it was in line with the upper windows.
Install a two faced sign that can be seen from the east/west so that if you stand across the
street and look south at the front of the building you can see the original front façade with
minimal impact.
They asked if they could bring plans to a Worksession in after the first of the year. The Commission
said they would schedule a worksession when needed.
Schedule Meeting Dates 2012
The Historic District Commission members were asked to schedule meeting dates for 2012. Two dates
are near holidays and the Commission will need to determine if these dates should be changed.
MOTION by T. Eftaxiadis, seconded by John Perschbacher that the Historic District Commission will
hold their regular monthly meetings at 3pm in the Council Chambers on the following dates:
January 5, 2012 February 2, 2012 March 1, 2012 April 5, 2012
May 3, 2012 June 7, 2012 July 12, 2012 * August 2, 2012
September 6, 2012 October 4, 2012 November 1, 2012 December 6, 2012
With a voice vote this motion passed unanimously
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OLD BUSINESS
Policies and Guidelines
The Historic District Commission began reviewing their policies at the August/September Meetings.
They were asked to review all of the documentation for corrections and approval at the October
meeting.
MOTION by Dave Carlson, seconded by John Perschbacher that the Historic District Commission
approves changes to their Policies as follows:
Previous Policy Converted/Deleted
#1 Signage/Awnings Historic District Information Brochure
#2 Application Policy Historic District Information Brochure
#3 Administrative Policy Historic District Commissioner’s Code of Conduct
#4 Definition of Storefront Delete
#5 Individual Discussions Historic District Commissioner’s Code of Conduct
#6 Permit Expiration Historic District Information Brochure
#7 Voting on a Request Historic District Commissioner’s Code of Conduct
#8 Defining a Contributing Building Appendix to Guidelines
#9 Authentication of Building Features Appendix to Guidelines
#10 Original Sigange/Architectural Features Appendix to Guidelines
#11 Directory Sigange Delete
#12 Air Conditioners Converted to Guideline #10
#13 Murals Converted to Guideline #11
#14 Demolition Converted to Guideline #12
#15 Routine Repair & Maintenance Historic District Commissioner’s Code of Conduct
AND changes to Guideline #2 Signage.
With a roll call vote this motion passed 4 to 0.
Yes: Carlson, Eftaxiadis, Perschbacher, Kracht
No: None
PUBLIC COMMENTS AND COMMUNICATIONS CONCERNING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA
None
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CORRESPONDENCE
None
STAFF REPORTS
Denise Blakeslee, Recording Secretary – received an e-mail from Nan Taylor who would like to schedule
a training workshop in January – February for the Historic District Commission.
The Commission asked to schedule the Workshop for the February Meeting in the hopes that new
members would be able to attend. They will try to coordinate with Travis so that members of the Main
Street Committees could attend.
Jon Rose, Community Development Director – The “Little Green Book” the Secretary of the Interior’s
Standards for Rehabilitation AND Guidelines for Rehabilitating Historic Buildings have been copied and
are on single pages in the Commissioners Books. Discussed the difference between STANDARDS and
GUIDELINES.
The Next meeting of the Historic District Commission will be on Thursday, December 1, 2011 at 3:00
p.m. in the Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by T. Eftaxiadis that the meeting be adjourned. Motion
passed unanimously.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 4:13 P.M.
MANISTEE HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
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Denise J. Blakeslee, Recording Secretary
City of Manistee Historic District Commission
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