Historic District Commission
Regular MeetingManistee, MI · March 7, 2013
Minutes
HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
Council Chambers, City Hall
70 Maple Street
Manistee, MI 49660
MEETING MINUTES
March 7, 2013
A Meeting of the Manistee City Historic District Commission was held on Thursday, March 7, 2013 at
3:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street, Manistee, Michigan.
Meeting was called to order at 3:04 p.m. by Chair Kracht.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Dave Carlson, Maria DeRee, T. Eftaxiadis, Teena Kracht, Jeremy Loveless, John
Perschbacher,
Members Absent: Mary Russell (excused)
Others: Connie Freiberg (Blue Cow/Fish LLC), Travis Alden (Main Street/DDA Director),
Jon Rose (Community Development), Mark Fedder (Manistee County Historical
Museum) and Denise Blakeslee (Planning & Zoning) and others
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by Maria DeRee that the Agenda be approved as prepared.
With a voice vote this motion passed unanimously
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by Jeremy Loveless that the Minutes of the February 7, 2013
Meeting be approved.
With a voice vote this motion passed unanimously
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NEW BUSINESS
HDC-2013-05 - Blue Cow LLC/Connie & Chuck Freiberg, 312 River Street
A request has been received from Blue Cow LLC/Connie & Chuck Freiberg, 312 River Street for an
Application for a Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted with application HDC-2013-05.
The application for a Certificate of Appropriateness followed the guidelines presented by Kelly Larson,
Design Specialist of State Historic Preservation Office included:
Remove wood shingle from Turret
Remove Awnings
Remove Wood Trim
Remove Exterior Light Fixtures
Repair, clean and paint brick masonry per Kelly Larson Design Services Schematic
Install new metal on Turret Roof
Repair Exterior Windows, replace if necessary
Install signage:
Proposed halo-lit signage on north and south elevations (as per design submitted to the
Historic District at their meeting, size must meet zoning requirements).
Connie Freiberg (Blue Cow/Blue Fish LLC) – Ms. Freiberg is an executive chef and spoke to the
commission about their plan to open a new restaurant at 312 River Street. Their vision includes
historical preservation of the building in a respectful manner. Synopsis of discussion with Ms. Freiberg
and the Commission as follows:
Brick is to be cleaned and repaired using the Preservation Brief requirements, then will be painted
a more normal color (too many unknowns to remove paint); presented paint colors selected by the
State Design Services and proposed paint plan; basically two colors will be used with an accent
color around entrance door (door will not be replaced at this time).
Signage will include small vinyl on the window adjacent to entrance that will draw your attention to
the entrance.
Cedar shakes will be removed from the turret, finial will be restored and reinstalled, roof will be
either soldered tin (will allow to age – patina) or metal (black) with seams to look like original.
Windows were replaced in 1998 and are not historical, need repair due to installation issues, fix rot
and repair as needed will add flashing to cement sills to help with water penetration
(recommended by SHOP)
Roof needs repair will use suggestion from SHPO that allows the building to breath while providing
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a method for water to drain away from the brick.
Deck will be cleaned and sealed, rails will be sanded and painted black. Possible expansion in the
future, would like to install a retractable awning (within the next two years).
Issues with double doors on rear of building, Health Department requires the gap in bottom of the
door to be sealed, will accomplish by adding weather stripping as needed.
Windows on East of Building, will be repaired they are not visible due to enclosure.
Signage wants to use halo lit signs on north and south façade of building, showed design, signs will
look like art, minimal impact to building, use of blue LED lights to create a bluish glow, metal will be
used that will age and patina. Signs are being used on various Historical Buildings.
East wall may be painted if the bids come in low enough (red to match front).
Will not add frosted vinyl to block restrooms, does not think it will be needed.
Commission discussed how to permit Halo Signs in the District.
MOTION by Maria DeRee, seconded by T. Eftaxiadis that the Guideline #2 Signage be amended to add
language to allow Halo Lit Signs in the district that will be approvable by the Museum Director.
With a roll call vote this motion passed 6 to 0.
Yes: DeRee, Carlson, Perschbacher, Eftaxiadis, Loveless, Kracht
No: None
Staff will draft language for the commission to review at their April Meeting.
MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by T. Eftaxiadis to approve the request from Blue Cow
LLC/Blue Fish LLC/Connie & Chuck Freiberg, 312 River Street for an Application for a Certificate of
Appropriateness as submitted with application HDC-2013-05 including the installation of the two
proposed halo-lit signs on north and south elevations (as per design submitted to the Historic District
at their meeting, size must meet zoning requirements).
Travis Alden, Main Street/DDA Director – The halo lit sign for the Blue Fish was proposed by Kelly
Larson in the Design Services Schematic for the building at 312 River Street. The applicant did not
make the proposal.
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With a roll call vote this motion passed 6 to 0.
Yes: Carlson, Perschbacher, Eftaxiadis, Loveless, DeRee, Kracht
No: None
OLD BUSINESS “A” “B”
335 River Street – Mike Cnudde (PHCD12-007)
The contractor for Mr. Cnudde brought two choices of Corbels for the
building at 335 River Street.
The Commissioners discussed the two. Corbel “A” was two pieces and
the Commission decided that a combination of the outer bracket from
Corbel “A” with Corbel “B” was best.
Top will be shortened 1 ¼”so that it will protrude between ½” to 1”
further than Corbel “B”
Outer Bracket Corbel “A”/Corbel “B”
Outer Bracket (Corbel “A”) will be extended so the bottom will be flush with the bottom of (Corbel “B”)
creating a combined Corbel “A/B”
The Commission discussed which corbels needed replacement and reviewed the application and the
Inspection Photo from the January Meeting.
MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by Maria DeRee that the Historic District Commission
approve the following:
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The existing ten large corbels will be replaced with the new combined Corbel “A/B”
New trim piece is to be
installed under the small
corbels to remain similar to
the adjacent building.
Corbels and trim are to be
painted to match the small
corbels to remain on the
building.
With a roll call vote this motion passed 6 to 0.
Yes: Eftaxiadis, Loveless, Perschbacher, DeRee, Carlson, Kracht
No: None
PUBLIC COMMENTS AND COMMUNICATIONS CONCERNING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA
None
CORRESPONDENCE
None
STAFF REPORTS
Travis Alden, Main Street/DDA Director – thanked the commission for their assistance for the change
to the signage guidelines and approval of the Blue Cow/Fish project; MSDDA approved $15,000 Façade
Grant for the project (3 storefronts), hopes are to close on the building by the end of May and be
opened in July; Joe Mathews received a Façade Grant for his project; next project the MSDDA working
on is the former Gliks Building.
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Denise Blakeslee, Recording Secretary – The Application to become a Michigan Certified Local
Government is completed and will be submitted to City Council for their consideration in April or May.
MEMBERS DISCUSSION
None
The Next meeting of the Historic District Commission will be on Thursday, April 4, 2013 at 3:00 p.m. in
the Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by Maria DeRee that the meeting be adjourned. Motion
passed unanimously.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 4:37 P.M.
MANISTEE HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
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Denise J. Blakeslee, Recording Secretary
City of Manistee Historic District Commission
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Agenda
MANISTEE CITY HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
Meeting of Thursday, March 7, 2013
3:00 p.m. - Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street,
Manistee, Michigan
AGENDA
I Call to Order
II Roll Call
III Approval of Agenda
At this time the Historic District Commission can take action to approve the March 7, 2013
Agenda.
IV Approval of Minutes
At this time Historic District Commission can take action to approve the February 7, 2013 meeting
Minutes.
V New Business
HDC-2013-05 - Blue Cow LLC/Connie & Chuck Freiberg, 312 River Street
A request has been received from Blue Cow LLC/Connie & Chuck Freiberg, 312 River Street for an
Application for a Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted with application HDC-2013-05.
At this time the Historic District Commission could take action to approve/approve with
conditions, deny the request from Blue Cow LLC/Connie & Chuck Freiberg, 312 River Street for an
Application for a Certificate of Appropriateness as submitted with application HDC-2013-05.
VI Old Business
335 River Street – Mike Cnudde (PHCD12-007)
The contractor for Mr. Cnudde brought two choices of Corbels for the building at 335 River
Street.
At this time the Historic District Commission could select a Corbel to be installed at the building at
335 River Street.
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VII Public Comments and Communications concerning Items not on the Agenda
At this time the Chair will ask if there are any public comments.
VIII Correspondence
At this time the Chair will ask if any correspondence has been received to be read into the
record.
IX Reports
Main Street/DDA Director
Museum Curator
Museum Director
Community Development Director
X Members Discussion
At this time the Chair will ask members of the Historic District Commission if they have any
items they want to discuss.
XI Worksession
XII Adjournment
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HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
Council Chambers, City Hall
70 Maple Street
Manistee, MI 49660
MEETING MINUTES
February 7, 2013
A Meeting of the Manistee City Historic District Commission was held on Thursday, February 7, 2013 at 3:00
p.m. in the Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street, Manistee, Michigan.
Meeting was called to order at 3:02 p.m. by Chair Kracht.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Dave Carlson, Teena Kracht, Jeremy Loveless, John Perschbacher, Mary Russell
Members Absent: Maria DeRee (excused), T. Eftaxiadis (excused)
Others: Travis Alden (Main Street/DDA Director), Mark Fedder (Manistee County Historical
Museum) and Denise Blakeslee (Planning & Zoning)
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
MOTION by Dave Carlson, seconded by Mary Russell that the Agenda be approved as prepared.
With a voice vote this motion unanimously.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
MOTION by Mary Russell, seconded by Dave Carlson that the Minutes of the January 3, 2013 Meeting be
approved s prepared.
With a voice vote this motion passed unanimously
NEW BUSINESS:
None
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OLD BUSINESS
Application Michigan’s Certified Local Government Program
Staff has worked on the application to make the City of Manistee a Certified Local Government. One of the
components of the application is that a resume be submitted for each member of the Historic District
Commission. Ms. Blakeslee contacted each commissioner and drafted a resume for their review. Any changes
were to be brought to the February Meeting for inclusion in the application.
When it was first discussed if an application should be made it was believed that the Commission would need to
perform a new survey of the district. Staff discovered that SHPO may accept the survey from 2007 which was
done when the Manistee Commercial Historic District designation was applied for. With that survey in place the
other components of the application are in place and if the Commission recommends the application will be
forwarded to City Council for their consideration.
MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by Mary Russell that City Council be forwarded the application to
become a Certified Local Government.
With a roll call vote this motion passed 5 to 0.
Yes: Perschbacher, Carlson, Russell, Loveless, Kracht
No: None
PUBLIC COMMENTS AND COMMUNICATIONS CONCERNING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA
None
CORRESPONDENCE
The Historic District Commission received a letter from EBI Consulting for an invitation to Comment under
Section 106 of the National Historic Preservation Act for a project they are proposing at 199 Maywood Avenue.
The Historic District Commission received a letter from Federal Communications Commission stating that a new
Section 106 had been submitted by EBI Consulting.
199 Maywood Avenue is outside of the Manistee Commercial Historic District. No comment is necessary.
STAFF REPORTS
Travis Alden, DDA/Main Street Director – Gave the Commission an update on the Building at 312 River Street.
Mark Fedder, Museum Director – Issued the following Permits:
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Joe Mathewson, 339 River Street – Routine Repair and Maintenance issued Permit PHDC13-02
Joe Mathewson, 339 River Street – Awning issued Permit PHDC13-03
Joe Mathewson, 339 River Street – Paint Colors issued Permit PHDC13-04
Closed out permit for:
Lighthouse Group –Manistee Abstract, 63 Maple Street – Signage & Awning
Denise Blakeslee, Recording Secretary - Jon Rose sent letter to Michael Cnudde, 335 River Street – Mr. Cnudde
responded to the letter with a phone message and e-mail which read as follows:
Hi Denise,
I just left a message for John, it said Ken Orshal is making the new corbels for my building and will be bringing
them in for John to approve before they install and the door way opening height will be corrected as soon as the
weather permits.
Thank you,
Michael
MEMBERS DISCUSSION
None
The Next meeting of the Historic District Commission will be on Thursday, March 7, 2013 at 3:00 p.m. in the
Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION by Mary Russell, seconded by John Perschbacher that the meeting be adjourned. Motion passed
unanimously.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 4:20 P.M.
MANISTEE HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
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Denise J. Blakeslee, Recording Secretary
City of Manistee Historic District Commission
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Planning & Zoning
Community Development
231.398.2805
Fax 231.723-1546
MEMORANDUM www.ci.manistee.mi.us
To: Historic District Commissioners
From: Denise Blakeslee, Planning & Zoning
Date: February 26, 2013
RE: 312 River Street - Signage
Commissioners, the request from Blue Cow LLC/Connie & Chuck Freiberg, 312 River Street includes Halo
– Lighted Channel Letter Signage. Kelly Larson, Design Specialist for the State Historic Preservation
Office proposed this style of signage when she prepared Design Services for the Building.
On February 13, 2013 I received an inquiry relating to the installation of a Halo – Lighted Channel Letter
sign and met with Mark Fedder. At our discussion we determined that the request would need to be
sent to the Historic District Commission for their Consideration.
Examples of Halo Lighted Channel Letter signs were included in the packet. Kelly Larson also sent an
email that reads:
Attached is a halo sign on the recently
rehabbed (with historic tax credits) on the
Book Cadillac in Detroit. Robb McKay has
told me these types of signs are being used
on all sorts of historic tax credit projects in
Grand Rapids but I’ll have to do some
digging to find actual photos. I’ll send some
along when I find them.
Kelly Larson
State Historic Preservation Office
Planning & Zoning
Community Development
231.398.2805
Fax 231.723-1546
MEMORANDUM www.ci.manistee.mi.us
To: Historic District Commissioners
From: Denise Blakeslee
Planning & Zoning
Date: February 26, 2013
RE: Mike Cnudde, 335 River Street - Corbels
Commissioners, Jon Rose contacted Mr. Cnudde in January about the status of his project. We
reported at the February meeting that his contractor would be bringing in Corbels for Jon to
review. The Corbels will be presented at the March meeting for your selection.
Photo showing side by side comparison as they would appear looking at them from across the
street.
“A” “B”
Larger of two Smaller of two
“A” “B”
Side by Side comparison
“A” “B”
8¼“
11 ½ “
14 “
14 “
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