Historic District Commission
Regular MeetingManistee, MI · June 10, 2014
Minutes
HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
Council Chambers, City Hall
70 Maple Street
Manistee, MI 49660
MEETING MINUTES
June 10, 2014
A Meeting of the Manistee City Historic District Commission was held on Tuesday, June 10, 2014 at
3:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street, Manistee, Michigan. This meeting was
rescheduled from June 5, 2013 due to a lack of quorum.
Meeting was called to order at 3:02 p.m. by Chair Kracht.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Dave Carlson, T. Eftaxiadis, Teena Kracht, John Perschbacher, Mary Russell,
Members Absent: T. Eftaxiadis (excused), two vacancies
Others: Roger Hall (Manistee Restoration), Patrick Kay (Main Street/DDA Director), Mark
Fedder (Museum Director) and Denise Blakeslee (Planning & Zoning
Administrator)
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by Dave Carlson that the Agenda be approved as prepared.
With a voice vote this motion passed unanimously.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by Dave Carlson that the Minutes of the April 3, 2014
Meeting be approved.
With a voice vote this motion passed unanimously.
No Quorum at the May 1, 2014 Meeting.
City of Manistee Historic District Commission
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NEW BUSINESS:
HDC-2014-06 Big Fish, 391 & 393 River Street – Reinstallation of second story entrance
A request has been received from Big Fish, 391& 393 River Street for a Certificate of Appropriateness
for the installation of an entrance to gain access to the second story of building from River Street as
documented by historical photos of the building. Existing glass display window will be removed, to
accommodate the reinstallation of brick a pier (8 – 10 inches) and a six panel door.
Mark Fedder, Museum Director - spoke to the Commission about the historical photos that show the
location of the stairway. This stairway is needed to provide access to the second floor of the building.
Roger Hall, Manistee Restoration – Mr. Hall will be doing the work on the building and spoke to the
commission about the project. At this time they are only installing a door to provide access to the
second floor of the building. The interior wall is being removed and they plan to reuse these bricks and
match them if needed. They will match the existing mortar. If room is available a transom window will
be installed to fit over the door. The existing front façade that was installed in the past will not be
disturbed.
Commissioners discussed the project and the style door they would like to see installed.
MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by Mary Russell that the Historic District Commission
approve the request from Big Fish, 391& 393 River Street for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the
installation of an entrance to gain access to the second story of building from River Street as
documented by historical photos of the building, using either a four panel or five panel vertical door
with a small transom window above.
With a roll call vote this motion passed 4 to 0.
Yes: Carlson, Perschbacher, Russell, Kracht
No: None
HDC-2014-07 Alex Doucett’s, 385 River Street – Façade Improvements
A request has been received from Alex Doucett’s, 385 River Street for a Certificate of Appropriateness
to cover existing brick with wood panel bulkheads to give back the historical look underneath display
windows. Replacing single pane glass with double pane on left display, painting soffit in entryway and
sealing upper façade to stop leakage.
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Roger Hall, Manistee Restoration – Mr. Hall is also working on this project. Discussion with the
Commission about the type of panel being proposed and the existing brick. The plan is to go over the
existing brick with an embossed panel, similar to the Mathewson Building with a ledge. He spoke of
replacing the single pane window with a double pain window, painting the soffit and sealing the upper
façade.
MOTION by Mary Russell, seconded by Dave Carlson that the Historic District Commission approve the
request from Alex Doucett’s, 385 River Street for a Certificate of Appropriateness to cover existing
brick with wood panel bulkheads to give back the historical look underneath display windows; the brick
sill will be removed and replaced with a wood ledge to be painted; replacement of single pane glass
with double pane on left display window, painting soffit in entryway and sealing upper façade to stop
leakage.
With a roll call vote this motion passed 4 to 0.
Yes: Perschbacher, Russell, Carlson, Kracht
No: None
OLD BUSINESS
Letter to local Realtor Brokers
The Commission worked on the information they want to include in a letter that will be sent to Local
Relator Brokers. Attachments will include a map of the district, Secretary of the Interior Standards for
Rehabilitation and the Historic District Commission brochure.
The Commission felt the letter was ready to be sent with the proposed changes.
PUBLIC COMMENTS AND COMMUNICATIONS CONCERNING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA
None
CORRESPONDENCE
None
STAFF REPORTS
City of Manistee Historic District Commission
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Mark Fedder, Museum Director – Issued the following permits:
Approved Signage for NU 2 U Resale Shop, 353 River Street. Issued Permit #HDC-2014-01
Approved Signage for Happy Owl Bookshop, 360 River Street. Issued Permit #HDC-2014-02
Approved Routine Repair and Maintenance for Briny Inn, 50 Filer Street for the removal of six storm
windows, reconstruct existing window sills and jambs, construct new storm windows using existing
glass. Paint, seal and install with new storm window latches. Issued Permit #HDC-2014-03
Approved Signage for Swankyz Good Goods, 363 River Street. Issued Permit #HDC-2014-04
Approved Routine Repair and Maintenance for John Smith, 435 River Street for the Installation of an
aesthetic insert constructed to look like the design for the Oak Street Entrance as prepared by Kelly
Larsen dated 4/2010 sheet A2. That replaces the existing OSB/Tar Paper covering that had
deteriorated. Issued Permit #HDC-2014-05
Approved Routine Repair & Maintenance for Jim Mathews, 334 River Street to tuck point brick work
lower half of the building where needed. Type “N” Mortar to be used (nominal compression strength
approx. 750). Issued Permit HDC-2014-08
Approved Routine Repair & Maintenance for the Ramsdell Theatre, 101 Maple Street for the
installation of second hand rail for fire escape as required by the Fire Department to meet Code
requirements. Simple metal pipe/painted black (match existing) and repaint ball room fire escape door
to match existing. Issued Permit HDC-2014-09
Closed the following Permits:
Permit #HDC13-009 for the Briny Inn for the replacement of these six windows had expired and has
been cancelled per the applicant’s request.
312 River Street, Signage for Blue Fish Restaurant
340 River Street, Robert Lapp, Painting
347 River Street, Paula Rozmarek & Jeff Gordon, Tuck Pointing
355 River Street, Signage for NU 2 U Resale Shop
391 River Street, Mike Duffy/Swankyz, Painting
400 River Street, Signage for Big Fish
425 River Street, Manistee County Historical Museum, two permits for Routine Repair & Maintenance
including Painting
431 River Street, Shari Wild, Painting
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75 Oak Street, Quarterstone Holdings LLC, Three permits for Routine Repair & Maintenance including
painting
Staff Asked the Commission if they wanted to close out permit HDC12002 395 River Street, Jim
Pawlowski. All of the work has been completed except for the removal of the entryway carpet. The
permit expired on April 5, 2013. The museum director could approve the removal of the carpet to
reveal the existing tile under Routine Repair and Maintenance.
The Commission authorized closing out the permit.
Denise Blakeslee, Planning & Zoning Administrator – Spoke to the Commission about the
Redevelopment Ready Communities Program and asked members to attend the presentation at the
July 1, 2014 Council Meeting.
Patrick Kay, DDA/Main Street Director – Spoke to the Commission about changes in the Façade Grant
Program. The program will not be limited to $5,000 per project, a new scoring system is being
developed, deadline for submission will be April 1. They are working on a new website.
MEMBERS DISCUSSION
Dave Carlson spoke of good comments he received from visitors to the community.
The Next meeting of the Historic District Commission will be on Thursday, July 10, 2014 at 3:00 p.m. in
the Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by Mary Russell that the meeting be adjourned. Motion
passed unanimously.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 3:50 P.M.
MANISTEE HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
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Denise J. Blakeslee, Recording Secretary
City of Manistee Historic District Commission
Meeting Minutes June 10, 2014 Page 5
Agenda
MANISTEE CITY HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
Meeting of Tuesday, June 10, 2014
Rescheduled due to a lack of Quorum
3:00 p.m. - Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street,
Manistee, Michigan
AGENDA
I Call to Order
II Roll Call
III Approval of Agenda
At this time the Historic District Commission can take action to approve the June 10, 2014 Agenda.
IV Approval of Minutes
At this time Historic District Commission can take action to approve the April 3, 2014 meeting Minutes.
No Quorum at the May 1, 2014 Meeting.
V New Business
HDC-2014-06 Big Fish, 391 & 393 River Street – Reinstallation of second story entrance
A request has been received from Big Fish, 391 & 393 River Street for a Certificate of Appropriateness for
the installation of an entrance to gain access to the second story of building from River Street as
documented by historical photos of the building. Existing glass display window will be removed, to
accommodate the reinstallation of brick a pier (8 – 10 inches) and a six panel door.
At this time the Historic District Commission could take action to approve/deny the request from Big Fish,
391& 393 River Street for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of an entrance to gain access
to the second story of building from River Street as documented by historical photos of the building.
HDC-2014-07 Alex Doucett’s, 385 River Street – Façade Improvements
A request has been received from Alex Doucett’s, 385 River Street for a Certificate of Appropriateness to
cover existing brick with wood panel bulkheads to give back the historical look underneath display
windows. Replacing single pane glass with double pane on left display, painting soffit in entryway and
sealing upper façade to stop leakage.
At this time the Historic District Commission can take action to approve/deny the request from Alex
Doucett’s, 385 River Street for a Certificate of Appropriateness to cover existing brick with wood panel
bulkheads to give back the historical look underneath display windows. Replacing single pane glass with
double pane on left display, painting soffit in entryway and sealing upper façade to stop leakage.
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VI Old Business
Letter to local Realtor Brokers
The Commission will work on the information they want to include in a letter that will be sent to Local
Relator Brokers.
VII Public Comments and Communications concerning Items not on the Agenda
At this time the Chair will ask if there are any public comments.
VIII Correspondence
At this time the Chair will ask if any correspondence has been received to be read into the record.
IX Reports
Main Street/DDA Director
Museum Curator
Museum Director
Planning & Zoning Administrator
X Members Discussion
At this time the Chair will ask members of the Historic District Commission if they have any items they
want to discuss.
XI Worksession
XII Adjournment
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MEMORANDUM
231.398.2805
City of Manistee Planning & Zoning Administrator Fax 231.723-1546
dblakeslee@manisteemi.gov
www.manisteemi.gov
TO: Historic District Commissioners
FROM: Denise Blakeslee
Planning & Zoning
DATE: June 5, 2014
RE: RESCHEDULED - Historic District Commission Meeting
Commissioners, the Historic District Commission has been rescheduled to Tuesday, June 10, 2014 at 3
pm in the Council Chambers do to a lack of quorum. We have the following items on the Agenda:
New Business
HDC-2014-06 Big Fish, 391 & 393 River Street – Reinstallation of second story entrance - A request has
been received from Big Fish, 391& 393 River Street for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the
installation of an entrance to gain access to the second story of building from River Street as
documented by historical photos of the building. Existing glass display window will be removed, to
accommodate the reinstallation of brick a pier (8 – 10 inches) and a six panel door.
HDC-2014-07 Alex Doucett’s, 385 River Street – Façade Improvements - A request has been received
from Alex Doucett’s, 385 River Street for a Certificate of Appropriateness to cover existing brick with
wood panel bulkheads to give back the historical look underneath display windows. Replacing single
pane glass with double pane on left display, painting soffit in entryway and sealing upper façade to stop
leakage.
Old Business
Letter to local Realtor Brokers - We will use this opportunity to discuss the letter the Commission
wanted drafted for local Realtor Brokers.
If you are unable to attend the meeting please call me at 398-2805, see you next Tuesday!
HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
Council Chambers, City Hall
70 Maple Street
Manistee, MI 49660
MEETING MINUTES
April 3, 2014
A Meeting of the Manistee City Historic District Commission was held on Thursday, April 3, 2014 at
3:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street, Manistee, Michigan.
Meeting was called to order at 3:17 p.m. by Chair Kracht.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Dave Carlson, T. Eftaxiadis, Teena Kracht, John Perschbacher,
Members Absent: Mary Russell (excused), Vacancies (2)
Others: Denise Blakeslee (Planning & Zoning Administrator)
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
MOTION by T. Eftaxiadis, seconded by Dave Carlson that the Agenda be approved as prepared.
With a voice vote this motion passed unanimously.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
MOTION by Dave Carlson, seconded by T. Eftaxiadis that the Minutes of the January 2, 2014 Meeting
be approved.
With a voice vote this motion passed unanimously.
There was no quorum at the February 6, 2014 and March 6, 2014 meetings.
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NEW BUSINESS:
Projects for 2014
Members of the Historic District Commission discussed projects for 2014. Projects discussed included:
Master Files for each Parcel in the Historic District
o Update Photos for each building
o Historical Photos of each building and streetscape to be scanned an inserted in to files
o Work on History for each building that could be used for building signage, web page
information
o Polk Directories being used for business previous business information in the district.
Sandborn Maps how important they are and how the current books are deteriorating. Options
to preserve Sandborn Maps before they are damaged beyond repair.
o Photographing
o Scanning
o Costs
o Volunteers
MOTION by Dave Carlson, seconded by T. Eftaxiadis that the Historic District Commission investigates a
method to reproduce the Sandborn Maps at the museum in an electronic form.
With a roll call vote this motion passed 4 to 0.
Yes: Carlson, Perschbacher, Eftaxiadis, Kracht
No: None
OLD BUSINESS
None
PUBLIC COMMENTS AND COMMUNICATIONS CONCERNING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA
None
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Meeting Minutes April 3, 2014 Page 2
CORRESPONDENCE
None
STAFF REPORTS
Denise Blakeslee, Planning & Zoning Administrator – spoke about the “Weatherization and Energy
Efficiency Workshop”, Local Certified Government Program, and Relator Meeting.
MEMBERS DISCUSSION
Discussion by the Commission included:
River Parc Condominiums
North Chanel Outlet Building and vacant property adjacent to building
Drafting letter to local Realtor Brokers
The Next meeting of the Historic District Commission will be on Thursday, May 1, 2014 at 3:00 p.m. in
the Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION by Dave Carlson, seconded by T. Eftaxiadis that the meeting be adjourned. Motion passed
unanimously.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 4:38 P.M.
MANISTEE HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
__________________________________________
Denise J. Blakeslee, Recording Secretary
City of Manistee Historic District Commission
Meeting Minutes April 3, 2014 Page 3
HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
Council Chambers, City Hall
70 Maple Street
Manistee, MI 49660
MEETING MINUTES
May 1, 2014
A Meeting of the Manistee City Historic District Commission was held on Thursday, May 1, 2014 at 3:00
p.m. in the Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street, Manistee, Michigan.
Meeting was called to order at 3:15 p.m. by Chair Kracht.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Teena Kracht, John Perschbacher,
Members Absent: Dave Carlson, T. Eftaxiadis (excused), Mary Russell (excused), and 2 Vacancies
Others: Patrick Kay (Main Street/DDA Director), Mark Fedder (Museum Director) and
Denise Blakeslee (Planning & Zoning Administrator)
Only three members of the Historic District Commission were present. Four members are needed for a
quorum to conduct business.
MANISTEE HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
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Denise J. Blakeslee, Recording Secretary
Photo Documentation of
location of original door to
upper story of building at
391/393 River Street
Photo of 389 River Street and 391-393 River Street (Seymour Block c. 1881)
Entrance to upstairs on 389 River Street Location of former entrance to upstairs 391/393 River Street
*389 River Street 419 River Street 411 River Street
Six Panel Door
Examples of Entrances to upstairs
Alex Doucett’s, 385 River Street Circa early 1900’s
Circa 1970
Historical Photos of Building at 385
River Street.
Enlargement of photo indicates that
originally there were panel bulkheads
underneath the storefront windows.
Alex Doucett’s, 385 River Street
2007 Photo
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