Historic District Commission
Regular MeetingManistee, MI · August 2, 2016
Minutes
HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
Council Chambers, City Hall
70 Maple Street
Manistee, MI 49660
MEETING MINUTES
August 2, 2016
A Meeting of the Manistee City Historic District Commission was held on Tuesday, August 2, 2016 at 2:00 p.m. in
the Second Floor Conference Room, City Hall, 70 Maple Street, Manistee, Michigan.
Meeting was called to order at 2:00 p.m. by Chair Kracht.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: T. Eftaxiadis, Teena Kracht, John Perschbacher
Members Absent: Aaron Bennett, Mary Russell, Lee Trucks Vacancy
Others: Denise Blakeslee (Planning & Zoning Administrator)
The meeting was not held due to a lack of quorum. Meeting was closed.
HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
Permit Review Committee
MEETING NOTES
August 2, 2016
On January 5, 2012 the Historic District Commission established a Permit Review Committee. The Permit Review
Committee consists of three members and one alternate appointed by the Chair that will review projects and close
out permits.
Members Present: Teena Kracht, John Perschbacher
Members Absent: Mary Russell
Site Visit – 334 River Street
Since a site visit of 334 River Street was scheduled for the August 2, 2016 Historic District Commission meeting
and a quorum of members were not present to hold the meeting and the meeting was not held due to a lack of
quorum. Teena Kracht and John Perschbacher went on the site visit in the capacity as members of the Permit
Review Committee to close out outstanding permits for 334 River Street.
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Upon their return from the site visit the Commission reviewed and closed outstanding permits for 334 River Street.
Staff was directed to close out all outstanding permits as outlined outstanding permits for 334 River Street with
notes/photos from walkthrough 7/14/16 by Denise Blakeslee/Mark Fedder that was included in the August 2, 2016
meeting packet as follows:
River Street Façade – PHDC09028
Permit PHDC09028 was issued on January 7, 2010 and had received an extension until December 31, 2013 for
the following:
Remove East Entrance and install
a garage door where a garage
door previously existed.
Removal of the existing window
and replace with an entrance
door where an entrance door
was previously located
Both garage and entry door were
installed.
Demolition Permit – PHDC10012
Permit PHDC10012 was issued on June 3,
2010 for the demolition of a portion of
the building as submitted with application
HDC-2010-12 with the understanding that
the building footprint will be as proposed
when reconstruction is completed and
had received an extension until December
31, 2013.
Demolition is complete. Note Commission approved shed/pool addition with permit PHDC1020.
Rear of Building (north Façade) – PHDC1020
Permit PHDC1020 was issued on September 22, 2010 and had received an extension until December 31, 2013
for the following:
Windows will be 6 over 6 OR 6 over 1.
The proposed egress door on the west side of the building and two doors on the riverwalk will be six panel
steel security doors.
o A double half sized window was installed on the west side of the building, over the kitchen sink area
(second uppers story window from the riverwalk)
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o Fourth upper story window from the riverwalk is a double window (original opening was a double
window that was revealed once siding was removed).
o Lower level third window and door were not installed due to neighboring staircase.
The privacy wall will reuse the existing 5 feet of concrete and 3 feet of existing brick. The step wall will reuse
existing brick. In the event that a portion of the wall needs to be rebuilt then the applicant will need to
come back to the commission for approval of finish materials.
o Step wall was not constructed due to addition of shed/pool addition/gate was installed to provide
egress from area.
The corrugated galvanized siding is to be painted within one year of installation.
o On July 11, 2013 the Commission discussed if the siding needed to be painted as specified in the
permit, they said they did not feel it would be required, but will wait for the site visit. During the site
visit it was determined that the siding does not require painting.
The egress doors on the two decks will either be glass doors with grids as submitted with the application or
a six panel steel security door.
The Shed/pool will have French doors with grids as submitted with the application.
The shed/pool addition with skylights will be acceptable as submitted with a reduction in the roof pitch as
recommended by the Commission.
o Skylights were not installed in the shed/pool addition.
o Second story balcony has wrought iron spindles
o First floor deck/ is smaller than proposed in request
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Approving after the fact the following changes:
o A double half sized window was installed on the west side of the building, over the kitchen sink area
(second uppers story window from the riverwalk)
o Fourth upper story window from the riverwalk is a double window (original opening was a double
window that was revealed once siding was removed).
o Lower level third window and door were not installed due to neighboring staircase.
o Step wall was not constructed due to addition of shed/pool addition/gate was installed to provide
egress from area.
o Determined that the corrugated galvanized siding does not require painting.
o Skylights were not installed in the shed/pool addition.
o Second story balcony has wrought iron spindles
o First floor deck/ is smaller than proposed in request
French Door & Balcony NE Corner of the rear of Building PHDC12-015
Permit PHDC12-015 was issued on August 2, 2012 and had received an extension until December 31, 2013 for a
French Door and Balcony with a 4’ x 10’ deck on the North East Corner of the rear of the building.
o The applicant had to expand the deck to extend on both side of the windows to attach it to the building.
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Approving after the fact that the deck is larger in size that appeared on the original request.
Skylight – PHDC12-016
Permit PHDC12-016 was issued on August 2, 2012 and had received an extension until December 31, 2013 to
restore skylight in area that was previously the auto shop.
o Skylight was been installed
The Permit Review Committee members closed the meeting at 3:15 pm
MANISTEE HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
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Denise J. Blakeslee, Recording Secretary
City of Manistee Historic District Commission
Meeting Minutes August 2, 2016 Page 5
Agenda
MANISTEE CITY HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
Meeting of Tuesday, August 2, 2016
2:00 p.m. – Second Floor Conference Room, City Hall, 70 Maple Street,
Manistee, Michigan
AGENDA
I Call to Order
II Roll Call
III Approval of Agenda
At this time the Historic District Commission can take action to approve the August 2, 2016 Agenda.
IV Approval of Minutes
At this time Historic District Commission can take action to approve the March 3, 2016 meeting Minutes.
V New Business
Site Visit – 334 River Street
Members of the Historic District Commission will perform a site visit at 334 River Street to close out
permits.
Close out permit for 334 River Street
Upon their return the Commission will review and close outstanding permits for 334 River Street.
VI Old Business
Permit Review
At this time the Commission may take action to close out any outstanding permits.
VII Public Comments and Communications concerning Items not on the Agenda
At this time the Chair will ask if there are any public comments.
VIII Correspondence
At this time the Chair will ask if any correspondence has been received to be read into the record.
IX Reports
Museum Curator
Museum Director
Planning & Zoning Administrator
X Members Discussion
At this time the Chair will ask members of the Historic District Commission if they have any items they
want to discuss.
XI Worksession
XII Adjournment
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MEMORANDUM
231.398.2805
City of Manistee Planning & Zoning Administrator Fax 231.723-1546
dblakeslee@manisteemi.gov
www.manisteemi.gov
TO: Historic District Commissioners
FROM: Denise Blakeslee, Planning & Zoning
DATE: July 26, 2016
RE: Historic District Commission Meeting August 2, 2016 (NOTE CHANGE IN DATE)
Commissioners, the August Historic District Commission meeting was rescheduled to Tuesday, August 2,
2016 so we could perform a site visit at 334 River Street to close out permits. The Brownfield
Redevelopment Authority will also be performing a site visit to the property.
Our meeting will be held in the Second Floor Conference Room (across the hall from my office) at City
Hall. The meeting will begin at 2pm and after approving the agenda/minutes we will go to 334 River
Street and review outstanding permits so we can close them out. Please wear comfortable shoes since
we plan to walk down to the site.
Attached is a list of outstanding permits that includes comments from a walkthrough that Mark Fedder
and I performed on July 14, 2016.
If you are unable to attend the meeting please call me at 398-2805.
HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
Council Chambers, City Hall
70 Maple Street, Manistee, MI 49660
MEETING MINUTES
March 3, 2016
A Meeting of the Manistee City Historic District Commission was held on Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 3:00 p.m. in
the Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street, Manistee, Michigan.
Meeting was called to order at 3:10 p.m. by Chair Kracht.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Dave Carlson, Teena Kracht, John Perschbacher, Lee Trucks
Members Absent: Aaron Bennett (excused), T. Eftaxiadis (excused, Mary Russell (excused)
Others: Mark Fedder (Museum Director) Steve Harold (Museum Curator) and Denise Blakeslee
(Planning & Zoning Administrator) and others
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by Dave Carlson that the Agenda be approved as prepared.
With a voice vote this motion passed unanimously.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION by Dave Carlson, seconded by John Perschbacher that the Minutes of the February 4, 2016 Meeting be
approved as prepared
With a voice vote this motion passed unanimously.
NEW BUSINESS
Kit Holmes and Cynthia Millonzi, 346/348 River Street – Inquiry on secondary egress
Kit Holmes and Cynthia Millonzi own the building at 346/334 River Street and are planning to construct three
residential livings spaces on the upper level of the building. They are asking for input from the Historic District
Commission for secondary egress (fire escape) on the rear (north side) of the building.
Staff contacted the State Historic Preservation Office regarding the inquiry. There is not a preservation brief
that addresses fire escapes, but they indicated the design and location should be compatible with the historic
character of the building and that the local Fire Department should be contacted regarding Fire Code. The main
issue they address relating to fire escapes is relating to removing them.
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Staff discussed the request with Brent Haskins the Inspector for the Fire Department and he said he did not have
an issue if it were built to meet the code requirements. The Fire Department would like to review the drawings
and perform a site visit as they move along with the process.
Discussion by the Commission included:
o There is not a way to install an interior staircase for the second means of egress
o Would be supportive of either a fire escape or porches on the rear of the building
o Concerns about potential damage from a metal fire escape if not properly maintained can rust and
stain the brick on the building
o The DDA encourages the development of the properties with waterfront in the district and suggested
sending photos of other buildings with porches overlooking the river for the owner to review.
o Suggested the applicant send photos or specifications for their review prior to having engineered
plans developed.
OLD BUSINESS - None
PUBLIC COMMENTS AND COMMUNICATIONS CONCERNING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA - None
CORRESPONDENCE - None
STAFF REPORTS
Mark Fedder, Museum Director – Issued a permit to 336 River Street - Certificate of Appropriates for a
Window/Door Sign for “Dwelling Realty” Issued Permit #PHDC-16-005
Denise Blakeslee, Planning & Zoning Administrator – spoke about window wraps and asked if the commission
had any concerns with the installation of a window wrap vs a window display on the building at 332 River Street.
MEMBERS DISCUSSION - None
The Next meeting of the Historic District Commission will be on Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 3:00 p.m. in the
Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by Lee Trucks that the meeting be adjourned. Motion passed
unanimously.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 3:30 pm
MANISTEE HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
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Denise J. Blakeslee, Recording Secretary
City of Manistee Historic District Commission
Meeting Minutes March 3, 2016 Page 2
Outstanding permits for 334 River Street
With notes/photos from walkthrough 7/14/16
Denise Blakeslee/Mark Fedder
River Street Façade – PHDC09028
Permit PHDC09028 was issued on January 7, 2010 and had received an extension until December 31,
2013 for the following:
Remove East Entrance and install a garage door where a garage door previously existed.
Removal of the existing window and replace with an entrance door where an entrance door was
previously located
Both garage and entry door were installed.
Demolition – PHDC10012
Permit PHDC10012 was issued on June 3, 2010 for the demolition of a portion of the building as
submitted with application HDC-2010-12 with the understanding that the building footprint will be as
proposed when reconstruction is completed and had received an extension until December 31, 2013.
Demolition is complete. Note Commission approved shed/pool addition with permit PHDC1020.
Outstanding permits for 334 River Street
With notes/photos from walkthrough 7/14/16
Denise Blakeslee/Mark Fedder
Rear of Building (north Façade) – PHDC1020
Permit PHDC1020 was issued on September 22, 2010 and had received an extension until December 31,
2013 for the following:
Windows will be 6 over 6 or 6 over 1.
The proposed egress door on the west side of the building and two doors on the riverwalk will be six
panel steel security doors.
o A double half sized window was installed on the west side of the building, over the kitchen
sink area (second uppers story window from the riverwalk)
o Fourth upper story window from the riverwalk is a double window (original opening was a
double window that was revealed once siding was removed).
o Lower level third window and door were not installed due to neighboring staircase.
The privacy wall will reuse the existing 5 feet of concrete and 3 feet of existing brick. The step wall
will reuse existing brick. In the event that a portion of the wall needs to be rebuilt then the
applicant will need to come back to the commission for approval of finish materials.
o Step wall was not constructed as submitted due to addition of shed/pool addition a gate was
installed to provide egress from area.
The corrugated galvanized siding is to be painted within one year of installation.
o On July 11, 2013 the Commission discussed if the siding needed to be painted as specified in
the permit, they said they did not feel it would be required, but will wait for the site visit.
Outstanding permits for 334 River Street
With notes/photos from walkthrough 7/14/16
Denise Blakeslee/Mark Fedder
The egress doors on the two decks will either be glass doors with grids as submitted with the
application or a six panel steel security door.
The Shed/pool will have French doors with grids as submitted with the application.
The shed/pool addition with skylights will be acceptable as submitted with a reduction in the roof
pitch as recommended by the Commission.
o Skylights were not installed in the shed/pool addition.
o Second story balcony has wrought iron spindles
o First floor deck/ is smaller than proposed in request
Complete list of changes to permit PHDC10020 that were noted by Denise Blakeslee/Mark Fedder
o A double half sized window was installed on the west side of the building, over the kitchen
sink area (second uppers story window from the riverwalk)
o Fourth upper story window from the riverwalk is a double window (original opening was a
double window that was revealed once siding was removed).
o Lower level third window and door were not installed due to neighboring staircase.
o Step wall was not constructed as submitted due to addition of shed/pool addition a gate was
installed to provide egress from area.
o Determined that the corrugated galvanized siding does not require painting.
o Skylights were not installed in the shed/pool addition.
o Second story balcony has wrought iron spindles
o First floor deck/ is smaller than proposed in request
Outstanding permits for 334 River Street
With notes/photos from walkthrough 7/14/16
Denise Blakeslee/Mark Fedder
French Door & Balcony NE Corner of the rear of Building PHDC12-015
Permit PHDC12-015 was issued on August 2, 2012 and had received an extension until December 31,
2013 for a French Door and Balcony with a 4’ x 10’ deck on the North East Corner of the rear of the
building.
o The applicant had to expand the deck to extend on both side of the windows to attach it to the
building.
PHDC12-016 – Skylight
Permit PHDC12-016 was issued on August 2, 2012 and had received an extension until December 31,
2013 to restore skylight in area that was previously the auto shop.
o Skylight was been installed
OUTSTANING PERMITS ISSUED BY MUSEUM DIRECTOR
Paint Colors – PHDC10021
Paint Colors – Window Frames – Marvin Bahama Brown
o Window frames were painted in accordance with permit.
Museum Director Mark Fedder closed out permit and a Certificate of Compliance will be issued.
Front Façade – Tuck point PHDC14-008
Tuck point brick work front lower half of the building where needed. Type “N” mortar to be used
(Nominal compression strength approx. 750)
o Tuck point brick work front lower have of the building was completed in accordance with
permit
Museum Director Mark Fedder closed out permit and a Certificate of Compliance will be issued.
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