Historic District Commission
Regular MeetingManistee, MI · January 5, 2017
Minutes
HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
Council Chambers, City Hall
70 Maple Street
Manistee, MI 49660
MEETING MINUTES
January 5, 2017
A Meeting of the Manistee City Historic District Commission was held on Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 3:00 p.m.
in the Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street, Manistee, Michigan.
Meeting was called to order at 3:00 p.m. by Chair Kracht.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Aaron Bennett, Teena Kracht, Jim Matthews, John Perschbacher, Mary Russell, Lee
Trucks
Members Absent: T. Eftaxiadis (excused), Lee Trucks
Others: Mark Fedder (Museum Director), Denise Blakeslee (Planning & Zoning Administrator)
and others
Commissioners welcomed new member Jim Matthews.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
MOTION by Mary Russell, seconded by John Perschbacher that the Agenda be approved as prepared.
With a voice vote this motion approved unanimously.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by Mary Russell that the Minutes of the December 1, 2016 Meeting
be amended as follows:
UNDER NEW BUSINESS- HDC-2016-24, Hollander Development, 400 River Street – Request for Certificate of
Appropriateness
Amend Paragraph 2 to read as follows:
Chair Kracht wanted to interject before the Commission discussed the request. She asked that Mark Fedder,
Museum Director discuss the research that he performed on the site. Mr. Fedder researched the property and
the building was constructed in 1954 as the Kennedy’s Store, the property was purchased in 1964 by Milliken’s
renovated and opened in 1965. In 1988 they demolished buildings to the west and constructed an addition and
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recovered the existing store. Chair Kracht stated that this new information demonstrates a portion of the
building is may be over 50 years old and as such if so should be treated as a contributing building.
Insert following paragraph before MOTION
Due to time restraints an immediate response was requested. The request was via telephone. Chair Kracht’s
response was predicated on information from three independent credible sources that nothing remained of
the Kennedy Store beneath the false stucco siding of the 1988 renovation. Further professional historical
research done in the museum archives by Director Mark Fedder cast doubt on this assumption. Given this
new information and given HDC Policy #8 “Defining a Contributing Building,” and precedent (the Planning Mill
and the Ice House) Chair Kracht asked the commissioners how they wished to proceed.
Insert following paragraph before Chair Kracht asked for Public Comments on request.
Chair Kracht reminded all present that the Historic District Commission is concerned only with the exterior
appearance of the buildings in the context of the Historic District and approval of projects is based on meeting
the Standards established by the United States Department of the Interior.
Remove emphasis from Kenneth Borenitsch Comment as follows:
Kenneth Borenitsch, 394 & 415 River Street – This is a 1,000% improvement over existing non-contributing
building; this is a great project that would bring more activity downtown!.
Amend Comments from Tamara Buswinka to read:
Tamara Buswinka, Community Development Director, Alliance for Economic Success – Ms. Buswinka spoke of
previously serving on the Historic District Commission “historic district commission” and thanked the
commissioners for their service… [The Commission wanted this change because Mrs. Buswinka served on the
Historic Overlay Committee not the Historic District Commission.]
Insert following paragraph before the request was reviewed against Guideline #8 Infill Construction.
Chair Kracht thanked the speakers. She then reminded the commissioners that the commission is concerned
only with the exterior appearance of the buildings in the context of the Historic District and applying the
Standards established by the United States Department of the Interior. Chair Kracht read the following from
the Historic District Reference Book. “Though commissioners may face pressure from individuals…to make a
certain decision, commissioners must remember that their role is to protect the community’s historic
resources. That is why they are appointed; Commissioners should keep in mind that they are only reviewing
the proposed work that is presented to them – not the personal life or the financial situation of the applicant.
The Commission should always make their decisions based on the Standards. It should be aware of any
precedence it may be setting with its decision and; work to develop a record of consistency.”
With a voice vote this motion passed unanimously.
PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA RELATED ITEMS
None
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NEW BUSINESS:
None
Commissioner Bennett entered the meeting at 3:10 pm
OLD BUSINESS
Routine Repair and Maintenance
At this time the Historic District Commission discussed the process for Routine Repair and Maintenance requests
in the district and oversight by the Museum Director. The Commissioners express confidence in having Museum
Director Mark Fedder continue to approve requests for Routine Repair and Maintenance and reminded him that
if any issues arise that he feels needs to go back to the Commission not to hesitate with having the applicant
make that request.
Expired Permits: 347& 349 River Street, Paula Rozmarek and 411 River Street, Jeff Gordon
Jeff Gordon met with Staff on August 29, 2016 to discuss outstanding permits for 347-349 River Street and 411
River Street. All of the permits have expired and staff is asking the Commission if they want to approve the
extension of the permits.
After a lengthy discussion the staff will contact Mr. Gordon to verify completion dates for outstanding permits.
With receipt of the information the Commission will take action. Items will be placed on the February 2, 2017
agenda.
PUBLIC COMMENTS AND COMMUNICATIONS CONCERNING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA
None
CORRESPONDENCE
None
STAFF REPORTS
Tyler Leppanen, DDA Executive & Economic Development Director – Mr. Leppanen introduced himself to the
Commissioners and spoke of how he is looking forward to working with them in the future.
Denise Blakeslee, Planning & Zoning Administrator – Reminded the Commissioners that the City Council will
discuss the Historic District Commission at the January 10, 2017 Council Worksession.
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MEMBERS DISCUSSION
Chair Kracht expressed concerns of the length of time it is taking to paint the marquee at the Ramsdell Theater
and the noise the lift is making when work is beginning at 4 am.
The Next meeting of the Historic District Commission will be on Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 3:00 p.m. in the
Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by Mary Russell that the meeting be adjourned. Motion passed
unanimously.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 3:45 P.M.
MANISTEE HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
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Denise J. Blakeslee, Recording Secretary
City of Manistee Historic District Commission
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Agenda
MANISTEE CITY HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
Meeting of Thursday, January 5, 2017
3:00 p.m. - Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street,
Manistee, Michigan
AGENDA
I Call to Order
II Roll Call
III Approval of Agenda
At this time the Historic District Commission can take action to approve the January 5, 2017 Agenda.
IV Approval of Minutes
At this time Historic District Commission can take action to approve the December 1, 2016 meeting
Minutes.
V New Business
VI Old Business
Routine Repair and Maintenance
At this time the Historic District Commission will discuss the process for Routine Repair and Maintenance
requests in the district and oversight by the Museum Director.
Expired Permits: 347& 349 River Street, Paula Rozmarek and 411 River Street, Jeff Gordon
Jeff Gordon met with Staff on August 29, 2016 to discuss outstanding permits for 347 & 349 River Street
and 411 River Street. All of the permits have expired and staff is asking the Commission if they want to
approve the extension of the permits.
At this time the Historic District Commission will discuss the expired permits for 347 & 349 River Street,
Paula Rozmarek and 411 River Street, Jeff Gordon
Permit Review
At this time the Commission may take action to close out any outstanding permits.
VII Public Comments and Communications concerning Items not on the Agenda
At this time the Chair will ask if there are any public comments.
VIII Correspondence
At this time the Chair will ask if any correspondence has been received to be read into the record.
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IX Reports
DDA Executive & Economic Development Director
Museum Curator
Museum Director
Planning & Zoning Administrator
X Members Discussion
At this time the Chair will ask members of the Historic District Commission if they have any items they
want to discuss.
XI Worksession
XII Adjournment
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MEMORANDUM
231.398.2805
City of Manistee Planning & Zoning Administrator Fax 231.723-1546
dblakeslee@manisteemi.gov
www.manisteemi.gov
TO: Historic District Commissioners
FROM: Denise Blakeslee, Planning & Zoning
DATE: December 22, 2016
RE: Historic District Commission Meeting January 5, 2017
Commissioners, the next Historic District Commission will be on Thursday, January 5, 2017. We have the
following items on the agenda:
Routine Repair and Maintenance - At this time the Historic District Commission will discuss the
process for Routine Repair and Maintenance requests in the district and oversight by the Museum
Director.
Expired Permits: 347& 349 River Street, Paula Rozmarek and 411 River Street, Jeff Gordon - Jeff
Gordon met with Staff on August 29, 2016 to discuss outstanding permits for 347 & 349 River
Street and 411 River Street. All of the permits have expired and staff is asking the Commission if
they want to approve the extension of the permits.
The request for 400 River Street will be on the February 2, 2017 meeting for consideration. City Council
will be discussing the Historic District Commission at their Worksession on January 10, 2017. If you have
time you may want to attend the worksession to hear the discussion.
If you are unable to attend the meeting please call me at 398-2805.
HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
Council Chambers, City Hall
70 Maple Street
Manistee, MI 49660
MEETING MINUTES
December 3, 2016
A Meeting of the Manistee City Historic District Commission was held on Thursday, December 3, 2016 at 3:00
p.m. in the Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street, Manistee, Michigan.
Meeting was called to order at 3:04 p.m. by Chair Kracht.
ROLL CALL
Members Present: T. Eftaxiadis, Teena Kracht, John Perschbacher, Mary Russell, Lee Trucks
Members Absent: Aaron Bennett (excused), Vacancy
Others: Joe Hollander (Hollander Development), Steve Hassevoort (In Form Architecture), Ken
Borenitsch (394 & 415 River Street), Tamara Buswinka (AES), Eric Gustad, Thad Taylor
(City Manager), Lynda Beaton, Mark Fedder (Museum Director) Steve Harold (Museum
Curator) and Denise Blakeslee (Planning & Zoning Administrator)
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Staff asked that the agenda be amended to allow for public comments on the request before the commission
begins deliberation.
MOTION by T. Eftaxiadis, seconded by Mary Russell that the agenda be approved with the addition to allow
public comments after the developer makes their presentation on their request.
With a voice vote this motion passed unanimously.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by Mary Russell that the minutes of the November 3, 2016 meeting
be approved as prepared
With a voice vote this motion passed unanimously.
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NEW BUSINESS
HDC-2016-24, Hollander Development, 400 River Street – Request for Certificate of Appropriateness
A request has been received from Hollander Development, 400 River Street for a Certificate of Appropriateness
for demolition of the existing building to street level and construction of a three story building as submitted with
plans on file.
Chair Kracht wanted to interject before the Commission discussed the request. She asked that Mark Fedder,
Museum Director discuss the research that he performed on the site. Mr. Fedder researched the property and
the building was constructed in 1954 as the Kennedy’s Store, the property was purchased in 1964 by Milliken’s
renovated and opened in 1965. In 1988 they demolished buildings to the west and constructed an addition and
recovered the existing store. Chair Kracht stated that this demonstrates a portion of the building is over 50
years old and as such should be treated as a contributing building.
Denise Blakeslee handed out a copy of the Executive Summary from the 2007 survey report. Only one building
was identified as potentially being considered a contributing building that was not identified on the National
Register of Historic Places nomination form and that was 449 River Street which ultimately was not added as a
contributing building because the architectural style and its significance are different from historic context of the
Manistee Commercial Historic District. Therefore, it is not recommended as a contributing structure to the Local
Historic District.
When the request was received Ms. Blakeslee had asked the Chair if the request for demolition could be
included with the request for a Certificate of Appropriateness or if a Demolition Permit was needed. Chair
Kracht said she did not believe so. If Ms. Blakeslee had known that it was required she would have had the
applicant include it in their request.
MOTION by T. Eftaxiadis seconded by John Perschbacher to proceed with the request for an Application for a
Certificate of Appropriateness and if approved it would be subject to receipt and approval of a demolition
permit.
With a roll call vote motion passed 3 to 1.
Yes: Eftaxiadis, Perschbacher, Kracht
No: Russell
Chair Kracht stated the request is for a Certificate of Appropriateness but the cover letter from the applicant
reads:
As we discussed, we need approval of the overall concept of the design, including size and configuration,
massing, relationship to the sidewalk, material types, window configurations, etc. to allow us to proceed with the
more detailed design that will follow and to allow us to continue to pursue funding sources for the project. We
are happy to come back to the commission with additional detail on final materials, colors. light fixtures, door
hardware, signage, mortar color, coping details, etc. as this information is developed.
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Ms. Blakeslee asked that they request clarification from the Applicant.
Joe Hollander, Hollander Development – Said that they need concept approval to move forward with the
project, they will be brining information back to the commission for final approval. They want to work with the
Commission.
Steve Hassevoort, In Form Architecture – reviewed the major changes to the design since last meeting
including:
o Added masonry on the corner, creating a three story brick component
o The connecter (main entry to the apartments) was moved to the east slightly and is recessed
aprox. 12 feet.
o Added bulkheads under the storefront windows, doors will be added to the stores once tennats
are identified and needs for space is addressed.
o West Side – they have discussed making it a little more residential in appearance i.e. townhouse
design and will be brining that back to the commission; masonry on first level with be designed
to create a more vertical feeling; use similar materials, bay windows.
o Maple Street – extended the storefront component
o North Façade/River – lower level windows were reconfigured, looking to add a deck, still
working on final design, added brick to break up façade
Commissioner Trucks entered the meeting at 3:38 pm
Reviewed the streetscape photos showing the current building vs the new building. Mr. Hassevoort brought
samples for the commission including windows, siding, brick, storefront framing.
Chair Kracht asked if there was any public comment on the request.
Kenneth Borenitsch, 394 & 415 River Street – This is a 1,000% improvement over existing non-contributing
building; this is a great project that would bring more activity downtown!
Tamara Buswinka, Community Development Director, Alliance for Economic Success – Ms. Buswinka spoke of
previously serving on the Historic District Commission and thanked the commissioners for their service. She
spoke economic prosperity and listening to the needs of the community including need for more housing,
employers in the area cannot attract employees due to the lack of housing. This is a great economic
opportunity for our community and AES strongly supports this project, the eyes of Michigan are on how we
move through this process. She also spoke of the economic positivity this project brings and the economic
benefits of people living downtown and how more people want to live downtown and how the members of the
Coast Guard are living in Ludington who serve in Manistee because there is not affordable housing.
Eric Gustad, previously served on the Planning Commission, City Council and serves on various boards. Spoke of
the need for this project and thanked Mr. Hollander for wanting to invest in our community and the
Commissioners for their service. His father worked downtown in the 70’s and he spoke of the changes that have
occurred over the years. Providing housing downtown will continue to promote the character and charm, but
we need to move forward with new opportunities and it is key to work together. Manistee needs to be
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competitive to get development, there are challenges for development including financing, it is critical for
cooperation, compromising for projects. He did the math 45 units at income between $40,000 and $45,000
would generate $1.8 million in salaries in downtown. Manistee cannot attract workers without housing and
there is a need for new housing for the community to grow.
Thad Taylor, City Manager thanked the commission to allow the public to speak, the commission is to focus on
the exterior of the building, building components and allowing the use of alternate materials that are allowable.
For this project to be successful the City Council, Planning Commission and Historic District Commission have to
be partners and focus on how to make it happen and be a success for our community.
Lynda Beaton, speaking as a realtor thanked Mr. Hollander for investing in the community. The design is
impressive and she really likes the appearance of the front of the building. Spoke of how lakefront homes
always shows pictures of how the waterside of the buildings looks and the importance of the riverfront façade.
A little more definition would be nice.
Joe Hollander invited the commission and public to contact him directly with any questions.
The request was reviewed against Guideline #8 Infill Construction.
Chair Kracht spoke of the height not being broken up enough; roof line needs to be broken up more, expressed
concerns about brick, use of horizontal siding, too much railing.
Commissioner Eftaxiadis used the Secretary of the Interiors Standard #9 for his review, The State Historic
Preservation Office has the name of the Historic District as being the Manistee Commercial District; applicant did
a nice job on the new design to incorporate comments from last meeting. Eastern/South façade reflects what
was discussed but is not compatible with River Street. The east portion of the south façade is ok. West 60 % of
building is incompatible with the district, breaking the mass would be appropriate; height massing particularly is
incompatible with the character of the buildings across the street or the buildings that were historically there.
Expressed concerns about the massing of the north side of the building and the importance of the riverfront
façade. The applicant should rework the designs similar to what was done on the east portion of the building on
River Street.
Commissioner Trucks has no strong objections, noted that storefronts are typically inset in the district, no
concerns about the residential component.
Steve Hassevoort, In Form Architecture – spoke of how the north side of the building has a very different
character, this side of the building traditionally was utilitarian/industrial in appearance and simpler less intricate.
Chair Kracht – expressed concerns about not enough brick, horizontal siding, too much railing.
Final comments from the commission were as follows:
Commissioner Trucks – has a favorable impression of the project.
Commissioner Russell – has a favorable impression of the project.
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Commissioner Perschbacher – favorable and that we can work together to get a good project.
Commissioner Eftaxiadis – expressed his concerns about compatibility with the district.
Chair Kracht – Some problems, massing is an issue, appreciates changes that were made. Northside could have
an industrial look, with tweaking there is a possibility that it could meet the standards, appreciates the efforts to
develop the building that would enhance the downtown. This is an anchor corner and noted the view coming
from the north entrance to the downtown.
The Commission did not take formal action on the request.
Election of Officers 2017
According to the By-Laws of the City of Manistee Historic District Commission their annual election of Officers is
held at the December Meeting for the following year.
Chair - At this time the meeting was turned over to Denise Blakeslee who asked for nominations for the Position
of Chair.
T Eftaxiadis nominated Teena Kracht for the position of Chair. Nominations were asked for three times. There
being no further nominations were closed.
With a roll call vote, Teena Kracht was elected Chair of the Historic District Commission for 2017, 5 to 0..
Yes: Perschbacher, Eftaxiadis, Russell, Trucks, Kracht
No: None
Vice-Chair - Denise Blakeslee asked for nominations for the Position of Vice-Chair.
Teena Kracht nominated John Perschbacher for the position of Vice Chair. Nominations were asked for three
times. There being no further nominations were closed.
With a roll call vote, John Perschbacher was elected Vice - Chair of the Historic District Commission for 2017, 5
to 0.
Yes: Eftaxiadis, Russell, Trucks, Perschbacher, Kracht
No: None
Appointment of a Recording Secretary 2017 - The Historic District Commission will appoint a Recording
Secretary to handle the administrative functions of the office.
Motion by Teena Kracht, seconded by Mary Russell that Denise Blakeslee be appointed Recording Secretary for
the Historic District Commission for 2017.
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With a roll call vote, Denise Blakeslee was appointed Recording Secretary of the Historic District Commission for
2017, 5 to 0.
Yes: Perschbacher, Eftaxiadis, Trucks, Russell, Kracht
No: None
By Law Review - Annually the Historic District Commission shall review their By Laws at their regularly scheduled
meeting in January. No changes were made to the By Laws.
OLD BUSINESS
Due to the time items Routine Repair and Maintenance and Expired Permits: 347& 349 River Street, Paula
Rozmarek and 411 River Street, Jeff Gordon will be added to the January meeting agenda for discussion.
PUBLIC COMMENTS AND COMMUNICATIONS CONCERNING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA
None
CORRESPONDENCE
None
STAFF REPORTS
Denise Blakeslee, Planning & Zoning Administrator – Commissioners were invited to the RRC Certification on
January 20, 2017.
The Next meeting of the Historic District Commission will be on Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 3:00 p.m. in the
Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by T. Eftaxiadis that the meeting be adjourned. Motion passed
unanimously. MEETING ADJOURNED AT 4:49 P.M.
MANISTEE HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
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Denise J. Blakeslee, Recording Secretary
City of Manistee Historic District Commission
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