Historic District Commission
Regular MeetingManistee, MI · May 4, 2017
Minutes
HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
Council Chambers, City Hall
70 Maple Street
Manistee, MI 49660
MEETING MINUTES
May 4, 2017
A Meeting of the Manistee City Historic District Commission was held on Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 3:00 p.m. in
the Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street, Manistee, Michigan.
Meeting was called to order at 3:00 p.m. by Chair Kracht.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Aaron Bennett, Teena Kracht, Brandon David, Mary Russell
Members Absent: T. Eftaxiadis (excused), John Perschbacher (excused), Lee Trucks (excused)
Others: Chuck Haemker (Manistee County Library – 95 Maple Street), Dorothy Hayward (340
River Street), Tyler Leppanen (DDA Director), Mark Fedder (Museum Director) Steve
Harold (Museum Curator) and Denise Blakeslee (Planning & Zoning Administrator) and
others
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
MOTION by Mary Russell, seconded by Aaron Bennett that the Agenda be approved as prepared.
With a voice vote this motion passed unanimously
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
MOTION by Aaron Bennett, seconded by Mary Russell that the Minutes of the April 6, 2017 Meeting be
approved with changes:
Correct typos on page 2; Add “or another vendor to second bullet point on top of page 3; correct typo on page
3; Remove Commissioner David as voting in favor of motion for By-Law Amendments because he was not
present at the meeting.
With a voice vote this motion passed unanimously
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PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA RELATED ITEMS
Tyler Leppanen, DDA Director – the DDA is in full support of all the applications and none are applying for tax
credits; spoke of the need for trust and strength in the local economy, two requests need approval for
submission for a façade grants, deadline is tomorrow; he has reviewed the standards and noted they allow for
flexibility by the commission; the subcommittee offered two options.
NEW BUSINESS:
HDC-2017-14 – Tracey Lindeman, 308 River Street – rear deck
A request has been received from Tracey Lindeman, 308 River Street for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the
installation of a covered wooden deck on the rear of the building as submitted with application HDC-2017-14.
Application was deemed complete by the Commission.
Mr. Lindeman was not present and Ms. Blakeslee spoke to the commission about the request on behalf of the
applicant. Mr. Lindeman may shorten the length of the deck to match the proposed covered roof and may wait
to install the roof at a later date depending on financing.
Motion by Mary Russell, seconded by Brandon David that the Historic District Commission approve the request
from Tracey Lindeman, 308 River Street for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of a covered
wooden deck on the rear of the building as submitted with application HDC-2017-14.
Steve Harold noted that the proposed roof is corrugated metal and that the roof on the building is hot tar.
With a roll call vote this motion passed 5 to 0.
Yes: Bennett, David, Russell, Kracht
No: None
HDC-2017-15 – Manistee County Library, 95 Maple Street – rear entrance
A request has been received from Manistee County Library, 95 Maple Street to reconstruct the rear entrance of
their building as submitted with application HDC-2017-15. Application was deemed complete by the
Commission.
Chuck Haemker, Executive Director of Manistee County Library spoke to the commission about the request and
answered questions.
MOTION by Aaron Bennett, seconded by Mary Russell that the Historic District Commission approve the request
from Manistee County Library, 95 Maple Street for a Certificate of Appropriateness to reconstruct the rear
entrance of their building as submitted with application HDC-2017-15.
With a roll call vote this motion passed 4 to 0.
Yes: Bennett, David, Russell, Kracht
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No: None
HDC-2017-16 – Dorothy Hayward, 340 River Street – rear windows and door replacement
A request has been received from Dorothy Hayward, 340 River Street for rear windows and door replacement as
submitted with application HDC-2017-16. Application was deemed complete by the Commission.
Ms. Hayward spoke to the Commissioners about the request and stated that she was able to find a supplier for
wooden replacement windows instead of the vinyl windows that were submitted with the application. Mark
Fedder reviewed the windows and there were no distinguishing characteristics. She answered questions about
the photos that were submitted.
Mark Fedder reported that he had looked at the windows and deferred the request to the commission. He does
not believe the windows are historic to the building.
Ms. Hayward would like to go with a Pella door that is the same series as the windows so that she does not need
to alter the size of the transom window above the door.
Chair Kracht said that requests are to include specification sheets for proposed products.
Ms. Hayward wanted time to download the specifications of the windows that she received from her contractor.
MOTION by Mary Russell, seconded by Aaron Bennett to table the request to allow the applicant time to
download the specifications.
With a roll call vote this motion passed 4 to 0.
Yes: Bennett, David, Russell, Kracht
No: None
OLD BUSINESS
HDC-2017-10 – Gary & Cathy Miller, 389 River Street – window replacement
A request was received from Gary & Cathy Miller, 389 River Street for a Certificate of Appropriateness for
replacement of upper windows and to repair block windows above front entrance at the April 6, 2017 meeting.
The Commission tabled action on the replacement of the upper story windows until an inspection is done by the
subcommittee and reported back to the commission at the May 4, 2017 meeting. The subcommittee inspected
the windows on April 20, 2017. After inspection the subcommittee reconvened at City Hall and drafted a report
for the commission for the May 4, 2017 meeting.
Chair Kracht presented her report on the condition of the windows as follows:
1. The wood is sound.
2. The sills are sound.
3. The joints are tight with two exceptions: The lower joint of the upper sashes on two windows show of
slight separation of the mortise joint with no recent movement indicated by paint condition and no
apparent compromise of functionality.
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4. The windows are painted shut.
5. There is no weather stripping.
6. There are no broken or cracked panes
7. The weight cords are all severed.
Commissioner Perschbacher was unable to attend the meeting and sent in a letter that Chair Kracht read into
the record (attached).
Commissioner Kracht read the meeting notes from the subcommittee meeting that included the report of
findings which read:
Report of Findings 389 River Street upper story windows:
The applicant is provided two options:
Option 1 – The applicant repair the original windows with the option of installing energy efficient glass during
the repair process and if desired install new storm windows.
Option 2 – The applicant is allowed to install energy efficient replacement windows as shown to the sub-
committee with the condition that the original windows, including any trim pieces, weights and pulleys (if
removed) be preserved, labeled and stored on site to allow a future owner the option to repair and replace,
similar to the requirement that was placed on the original entrance doors at the Vogue Theater.
Chair Kracht read a portion of the City of Manistee Historic District Commission Guidelines #4 Windows relating
to replacement windows.
MOTION by Aaron Bennett, seconded by Brandon David that the Historic District Commission denies the request
from Gary & Cathy Miller, 389 River Street for a Certificate of Appropriateness for replacement of upper
windows as submitted with application HDC-2017-10.
With a roll call vote this motion failed 2 to 2.
Yes: Bennett, Kracht
No: Russell, David
MOTION by Mary Russell, seconded by Aaron Bennett that the applicant is allowed to install energy efficient
replacement windows as shown to the sub-committee with the condition that the original windows, including
any trim pieces, weights and pulleys (if removed) be preserved, labeled and stored on site to allow a future
owner the option to repair and replace, similar to the requirement that was placed on the original entrance
doors at the Vogue Theater.
With a roll call vote this motion passed 4 to 0.
Yes: Bennett, Russell, David Kracht
No: None
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HDC-2017-16 – Dorothy Hayward, 340 River Street – rear windows and door replacement
The request from Dorothy Hayward, 340 River Street was tabled earlier to allow her time to download the
window and door specifications. Ms. Hayward provided specifications to the commission for windows, due to a
printing issued they did not print out everything but they are the same design as the same Pella windows series
proposed by Gary and Cathy Miller for their windows she was unable to download the door specifications.
It was noted that in the past the Commission has approved requests by deferring final approval to the Museum
Director for items such as doors and windows.
MOTION by Aaron Bennett, seconded by Mary Russell that the Historic District Commission approves the
request from Dorothy Hayward, 340 River Street for rear windows and door replacement using Pella Architect
Series window and doors with review and approval of the door by the Museum Director.
With a roll call vote this motion passed 4 to 0.
Yes: Russell, Bennett, David, Kracht
No: None
By-Law Amendments
Due to the late hour the commission will discuss the By-Law Amendments at the June Meeting.
PUBLIC COMMENTS AND COMMUNICATIONS CONCERNING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA
Xavier Verna, Executive Director Ramsdell Regional Center for the Arts – Mr. Verna came to the commission to
discuss the lighting that was installed for their new sign. On March 2, 2017 the commission issued a permit to
the Ramsdell Theater for the installation of a new sign and lighting. The application showed that the LED Wall
Wash Lighting (Grazer) unit was to be installed under the dimensional letters (in the brick channel of the sign
area, so it could not be seen from the street). Using low profile black aluminum housing as stated and indicated
on the application.
On Monday Xavier called the City because the sign company installed a light bar that protrudes from the
building with five supports for the installation of a light bar. Staff recommended that they come back to the
commission to discuss the change in lighting.
MOTION by Mary Russell, seconded by Aaron Bennett that the Historic District Commission denies the change in
lighting for the signage at the Ramsdell Theater, 101 Maple Street that was part of application HDC-2017-03.
With a roll call vote this motion passed 4 to 0.
Yes: Russell, Bennett, David, Kracht
No: None
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CORRESPONDENCE
None
STAFF REPORTS
Tyler Leppanen, DDA Executive & Economic Development Director – thanked the commission for upholding the
options from the subcommittee
Denise Blakeslee, Planning & Zoning Administrator - reported that Mark Fedder, Museum Director had issued a
permit to Edgewater for a change in paint colors – Issued Permit PHDC17-013
MEMBERS DISCUSSION
Commissioner Bennett spoke of the temporary signage that is being used by Love Inc. at 401 River Street,
consensus from the commission is that a letter be drafted and sent.
Chair Kracht reported that Commissioner Perschbacher wants a worksession scheduled to discuss duties of the
sub- committee and the commission; By-Laws; training; who should be allowed to fill out applications;
standards; and the role of the DDA.
The Commissioners discussed dates for the proposed worksession and decided to schedule it at 1:00 pm on
Thursday, June 1, 2017 before the regularly scheduled meeting.
The Next meeting of the Historic District Commission will be on Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 3:00 p.m. in the
Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Mary Russell, seconded by Aaron Bennett that the meeting be adjourned. Motion passed
unanimously.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 4:50 P.M.
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