Planning Commission
Regular MeetingMaple Grove, MN · May 11, 2020
Minutes
MAPLE GROVE
PLANNING COMMISSION
May 11, 2020
CALL TO ORDER A meeting of the Maple Grove Planning Commission was held at
7:00 p.m. on May 11, 2020 at the Maple Grove City Hall,
Hennepin County, Minnesota. Chair Colson called the meeting to
order at 7:00 p.m. Due to the COVID- 19 pandemic this meeting
was held virtually.
PLEDGE OF
ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL Planning Commission members present were Chair Larry Colson,
Vice- Chair Chris Ayika, Lorie Klein, Craig Lamothe, Susan
Lindeman, Chuck Lenthe, and Joe Piket. Present also were Karen
Jaeger, City Council Liaison; Joe Hogeboom, Community and
Economic Development Director; Peter Vickerman, Planning
Manager; Jesse Corrow, Associate Planner; Jupe Hale, Assistant
City Engineer; John Hagen; and Scott Landsman, City Attorney.
ITEMS TO BE None.
REMOVED FROM
THE AGENDA
CONSENT ITEMS The following Consent Items were presented for the Commission’ s
approval:
MINUTES
A. Regular Meeting – April 27, 2020
Motion by Commissioner Lindeman, seconded by
Commissioner Lenthe, to approve the Consent Items as
presented. Upon call of the motion by Chair Colson, there
were seven ayes and no nays. Motion carried.
CONSIDERATION None.
OF ITEMS PULLED
FROM CONSENT
AGENDA
REVIEW OF THE Mr. Hogeboom reviewed with the Commission what items the City
CITY COUNCIL Council approved that was given direction at the Planning
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MINUTES FROM Commission level. He reported the Council put a moratorium in
THEIR REGULAR place for multi-family residential developments for the next 12
months. He thanked the community for helping to raise over 5,000
MEETING OF MAY
masks for essential works, clinics and the elderly.
4, 2020
OLD BUSINESS No items to present.
NEW BUSINESS
Motion by Chair Colson, seconded by Commissioner Ayika, to
PUBLIC HEARING
remove this item from the table. Upon call of the motion by
Chair Colson, there were seven ayes and no nays. Motion
TERRITORIAL
carried.
GREENS
TREK REAL Mr. Vickerman stated the applicant seeks three separate approvals
for the Territorial Greens project. He explained the applicant seeks
ESTATE AND
approval for a Planned Unit Development ( PUD) Concept Stage
DEVELOPMENT Plan to change the proposed uses on the east side from 56 detached
INC. homes to 73 townhomes. Additionally, they seek approval for a
13653 Development Stage Plan, Preliminary and Final Plat for 73
townhomes on the east side. The Applicants seek approval for a
TERRITORIAL
Development Stage Plan, Preliminary and Final Plat for 208
ROAD AND 13501 apartments and 13 villas on the west side. The area in question is
TERRITORIAL bisected by Territorial Road and sits between Elm Creek Park
ROAD Reserve to the north and County Road 81/Minnesota State
Highway 610 to the south. The site received Concept Plan
PLANNED UNIT approval in 2018 as well as Development Stage Plan, Rezoning,
DEVELOPMENT – Preliminary and Final Plat approval for the east side and the 13
CONCEPT STAGE villas on the west side. The apartments only had Concept Plan
PLAN approval in 2018. The rezoning remains valid. Information from
AMENDMENT TO the traffic study was reviewed with the Commission. Staff
commented further on the overall project, reviewed the building
CHANGE THE
elevations and recommended approval of the three requests as
PROPOSED USE
follows:
ON THE EAST
SIDE TO STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS:
TOWNHOMES. Motion to recommend that the City Council direct the City
PLANNED UNIT Attorney to draft a Resolution approving the PUD Concept Plan
DEVELOPMENT – Amendment for Territorial Greens subject to:
DEVELOPMENT
1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the City
STAGE PLAN, any remaining applicable comments contained in the
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PRELIMINARY memorandums from:
AND FINAL PLAT a. Community Development Department, dated
May 5, 2020
FOR 73
b. Transportation Operations Engineer, dated April
TOWNHOMES ON 22, 2020
THE EAST SIDE.
PLANNED UNIT Motion to recommend that the City Council direct the City
DEVELOPMENT – Attorney to draft a Resolution approving the Development Stage
DEVELOPMENT Plan, Preliminary and Final Plat for Territorial Greens East subject
STAGE PLAN, to:
PRELIMINARY
1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the City
AND FINAL PLAT any remaining applicable comments contained in the
FOR 208 memorandums from:
APARTMENT AND a. Community Development Department, May 5,
13 VILLAS ON THE 2020
WEST SIDE b. Arbor Committee, dated April 5, 2020
c. Transportation Operations Engineer, dated April
22, 2020
d. Parks and Recreation Department, dated May 5,
2020
e. Water Resources Engineer, dated April 10, 2020
f. Three River Parks, dated April 24, 2020
g. MnDOT, dated April 17, 2020
Motion to recommend that the City Council direct the City
Attorney to draft a Resolution approving the Development Stage
Plan, Preliminary and Final Plat for Territorial Greens West
subject to:
1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the City
any remaining applicable comments contained in the
memorandums from:
a. Community Development Department, dated
May 5, 2020
b. Arbor Committee, dated April 5, 2020
c. Transportation Operations Engineer, dated April
22, 2020
d. Parks and Recreation Department, May 5, 2020
e. Water Resources Engineer, dated April 13, 2020
f. Water Resources Engineer, Wetland Memo,
dated May 5, 2020
g. The Fire Department, dated April 15, 2020
h. MnDOT, dated April 17, 2020
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The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation to the
Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent Board Action.
Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each month.
Discussion
Chair Colson asked why the applicant had not worked with
MnDOT on the ponding. Mr. Vickerman clarified the applicant
was willing to work with MnDOT, but it was challenging to get
MnDOT to work with the applicant to resolve the ponding
concerns.
Chair Colson discussed how traffic would flow in and out of the
property.
Commissioner Lenthe questioned if the noise from the highway
would be a concern and how would the City address this issue.
Mr. Vickerman explained the buildings would have extra
insulation to address the noise issue, which was State law.
Commissioner Klein asked if traffic in this area was a concern and
inquired when the County would be making improvements. Mr.
Vickerman stated this was a challenge because different entities
were in charge of different parts of the roadway system.
Commissioner Lamothe questioned if the tot lot or playground
area would be fenced. Mr. Vickerman explained this had been
discussed with the applicant and it was determined MnDOT had a
fence in place. He commented on the grade change on the
property and noted this was a good site for the tot lot.
Commissioner Lamothe indicated he reviewed an aerial of the lot
and explained a snow fence was located to the north side of the
creek. However, there was no fencing on the other side of the trail
or creek. Mr. Vickerman commented the snow fencing may have
been put in place by the golf course. He reported he would speak
to the applicant about putting fencing in place.
Commissioner Piket inquired how developed Territorial Woods
was to the west. Mr. Vickerman stated the townhomes were
completed and the apartment building was doing well.
Commissioner Piket asked if staff had traffic data numbers from
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the Territorial Woods development. Mr. Vickerman deferred this
question to the engineering staff. Mr. Hale reported staff had not
completed updated traffic counts. Further discussion ensued
regarding how the new development would impact traffic in the
area. It was estimated the new development would create 1,800
trips on an average week day. Mr. Hagen reviewed past data and
reported the Territorial Woods project would generate 1,040 trips
per day and the Fernbrook Apartments would generate 475 trips
per day.
Commissioner Klein requested clarification on the wetland issue.
She explained staff was recommending the invasive vegetation be
removed and that a native seed mix be planted. She questioned if
the applicant would be purchasing wetland credits for this project
for the wetland that may be mitigated. Mr. Vickerman stated at this
time staff does not know if this was an incidental wetland. He
noted the applicant would need to go through a process and if it is
incidental the filling of this wetland would not require any
mitigation.
Chair Colson asked if any land had to be acquired for the
improvements at Territorial Road and Fernbrook. Mr. Vickerman
reported it was his understanding the City had all necessary land.
The applicant was at the meeting to answer questions.
Beth Hustad, Trek Real Estate and Development, introduced
herself to the Commission.
John Rask, builder and developer, thanked staff for thoroughly
outlining the project for the Commission.
Ms. Hustad explained she had spoken to MnDOT regarding the
noise concerns and indicated the grade change on this site creates a
natural berm for the property.
Chair Colson opened the public hearing at 7:45 p.m.
The public was asked by Chair Colson if they had any comments to
make regarding this application.
Bart Hanson, 13999 102nd Avenue North, asked what action the
Council had taken on the proposed moratorium. Mr. Vickerman
reported the Council approved a moratorium on new multi-family
developments, but noted this did not pertain to projects that were
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already under consideration or had made an application with the
City.
Mr. Hanson questioned if trees or a fence would be installed
between the Villas and Territorial Woods. Mr. Vickerman
discussed the trees that would be removed along the northern
property line and stated shrubs may be added along this edge, so
long as the water line was not impacted.
Mr. Hanson suggested a speed reduction sign be considered in
order to slow cars coming over the hill along Territorial Road. Mr.
Vickerman indicated a speed reduction was considered but
ultimately this was not approved by the City. Mr. Hagen explained
the City of Maple Grove petitioned Hennepin County to request a
speed study be conducted by MnDOT on this segment of
Fernbrook. He commented further on how speed limits are
addressed and set noting MnDOT recommended the speed limit
remain at 55 miles per hour. He commented MnDOT does not
typically like to create reduced speed zones less than a quarter of a
mile long.
Mr. Hanson expressed concern with the fact over 1,800 more cars
would be coming out onto Fernbrook everyday once this
development was completed. He anticipated there would be
additional accidents along Fernbrook. He discussed how fast the
traffic traveled along Highway 81. He questioned what direction
the water from the apartment building would be shed to. Mr.
Vickerman reported the rain would be directed to a stormwater
pond where it would be treated and the clean water would go into
the creek, flowing to the east.
Mr. Hanson inquired if both projects would be completed at the
same time. Mr. Rask reported this would be the case. He noted he
would like to grade the project this summer with construction of
the units beginning yet this fall. He indicated it would take him
two to three years to build out all 73 units within his project.
Mr. Hanson asked if any of the apartment units would be
subsidized. Mr. Vickerman stated the apartment units would not be
subsidized.
Mr. Hanson questioned if the villa units would be rental. Ms.
Hustad reported the villas would be rental.
Mr. Hanson commented there appears to be a great deal of high
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density residential coming into this area and he believed the
neighbors were concerned about how this was impacting his
neighborhood. Mr. Vickerman indicated this property was all
guided for medium density residential.
Scott Hanneman, 13693 Territorial Road, explained he sent an
email to the Commission and noted he has also stood before the
Commission to address concerns he had with Territorial Woods.
He reported in 2018 this project was denied by the Planning
Commission and the City Council approved the townhouses and
conceptual approval of the apartment, pending traffic
improvements. He explained the traffic concerns are real. He
indicated his biggest issue was the lack of safety exiting this area.
He commented further on the dangerous traffic that was occurring
along Fernbrook and Highway 81. He anticipated most people
along Fernbrook were traveling 60 to 65 miles per hour along
Fernbrook and not 55 miles per hour. He commented on the
number of pedestrians that were walking along Territorial and
stated he would like these people protected as well. He discussed
how development was increasing in Dayton and how this was
compounding the traffic concerns. He thanked the City for
protecting the existing wetland and noted this would help preserve
the wildlife in the area. He recommended street lights be
considered for safety purposes and discussed the sidewalk that was
proposed along his property. He finished by commenting on the
differences between medium and high density developments. Mr.
Vickerman stated a light would be placed at the driveway from the
apartment building at Territorial and again at Xenium and
Territorial.
Mr. Hanneman expressed concern with this stating there would
still be large dark areas along Territorial if these were the only
street lights installed. He explained he was worried about the
liability he would have on his property if someone were to slip and
fall on the new sidewalk going across his property given the fact
there would not be good lighting. Mr. Vickerman reported there
was a standard lighting plan in place for the entire City.
Gaye Dean, 13750 102nd Place North, asked why a road was being
considered behind the single family homes for the apartment
dwellers to use as an exit. Mr. Vickerman explained an access was
being proposed onto Zinnia Lane. He stated there was a significant
grade change so access to Xenium Lane would be difficult.
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Chair Colson noted the Commission received several emails and
requested the motion be made to accept these emails as part of the
record.
Motion by Chair Colson, seconded by Commissioner Piket, to
accept the emails and correspondence received as part of the
formal record. Upon call of the motion by Chair Colson, there
were seven ayes and no nays. Motion carried.
Motion by Chair Colson, seconded by Commissioner Lenthe,
to close the public hearing at 8:23 p.m. Upon call of the
motion by Chair Colson, there were seven ayes and no nays.
Motion carried.
Commissioner Piket stated he liked the proposed project but was
proposed by the traffic concerns given the fact nothing has been
addressed. He feared how the area would be impacted if the
amount of traffic in the area were to double. He explained he
would not be able to support this project until the City and County
came together to create a long term solution for this area.
Commissioner Lamothe agreed with Commissioner Piket and
noted he would be voting against this project given the lack of
clarity on the needed transportation improvements. He stated he
was not sure where Hennepin County stands on this project. He
understood grant applications were due with the Met Council this
Friday and these dollars were for 2024 and 2025. He indicated this
roadway would not be fixed by the County in a hurry, but rather
would take time. He stated the City would need to work with the
County in order to get this project programmed.
Commissioner Ayika requested comment from the City’s traffic
engineer regarding when Hennepin County may be addressing this
roadway. Mr. Hagen reported he has been working with the
County for the past two years to identify improvements along
Fernbrook. He explained a temporary fix was to put in a
temporary signal at Territorial Road and Fernbrook. He explained
the County was very much against a permanent signal at Territorial
Road and Fernbrook.
Commissioner Lindeman stated the traffic concerns were also a big
issue for her.
Chair Colson indicated he understood the traffic concerns in this
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area and stated he would also be supporting a recommendation for
denial of this project until the traffic concerns were addressed.
Motion by Commissioner Lindeman, seconded by
Commissioner Piket, to recommend that the City Council
direct the City Attorney to draft a Resolution denying the PUD
Concept Plan Amendment for Territorial Greens due to
ongoing traffic concerns. Upon call of the motion by Chair
Colson, there were five ayes and two nays ( Commissioners
Ayika and Lenthe opposed). Motion carried.
Motion by Commissioner Lindeman, seconded by
Commissioner Klein, to recommend that the City Council
direct the City Attorney to draft a Resolution denying the
Development Stage Plan, Preliminary and Final Plat for
Territorial Greens East due to the ongoing traffic concerns.
Upon call of the motion by Chair Colson, there were five ayes
and two nays ( Commissioners Ayika and Lenthe opposed).
Motion carried.
Motion by Commissioner Lindeman, seconded by
Commissioner Lamothe, to recommend that the City Council
direct the City Attorney to draft a Resolution denying the
Development Stage Plan, Preliminary and Final Plat for
Territorial Greens West due to ongoing traffic concerns. Upon
call of the motion by Chair Colson, there were five ayes and
two nays (Commissioner Ayika and Lenthe opposed). Motion
carried.
DISCUSSION There were no discussion items.
ITEMS
ADJOURNMENT Motion by Chair Colson, seconded by Commissioner Lenthe,
to adjourn the Planning Commission meeting. Upon call of
the motion by Chair Colson, there were seven ayes and no
nays. Motion carried.
Chair Colson adjourned the meeting at 8:36 p.m. to the next
regularly scheduled meeting of the Planning Commission
scheduled for May 26, 2020.
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