Planning Commission
Regular MeetingMaple Grove, MN · March 29, 2021
Minutes
MAPLE GROVE
PLANNING COMMISSION
March 29, 2021
CALL TO ORDER A meeting of the Maple Grove Planning Commission was held at
7:00 p.m. on March 29, 2021 at the Maple Grove City Hall,
Hennepin County, Minnesota. Chair Lamothe called the meeting to
order at 7:00 p.m.
PLEDGE OF
ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL Planning Commission members present were Chair Craig
Lamothe, Chris Ayika, Lorie Klein, Susan Lindeman, Chuck
Lenthe, Michael Ostaffe, and Joe Piket. Present also were Karen
Jaeger, City Council Liaison; Joe Hogeboom, Community and
Economic Development Director; Peter Vickerman, Planning
Manager; and Scott Landsman, City Attorney.
ITEMS TO BE None.
REMOVED FROM
THE AGENDA
CONSENT ITEMS The following Consent Items were presented for the Commission’ s
approval:
MINUTES
A. Regular Meeting – March 8, 2021
Motion by Commissioner Lenthe, seconded by Commissioner
Lindeman, to approve the Consent Items as presented. Upon
call of the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven ayes
and no nays. Motion carried.
CONSIDERATION None.
OF ITEMS PULLED
FROM CONSENT
AGENDA
REVIEW OF THE Mr. Hogeboom reviewed with the Commission what items the City
CITY COUNCIL Council approved that was given direction at the Planning
Commission level.
MINUTES FROM
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THEIR REGULAR
MEETING OF
MARCH 15, 2021
OLD BUSINESS No items to present.
NEW BUSINESS
Mr. Vickerman stated the applicant seeks approval of a
PUBLIC HEARING
development stage plan for the purpose of constructing a 5,937
square foot one- story medical office building on a 0.85- acre parcel.
THE GROVE 15715
The site is on the western edge of the “ Village” area of The Grove
GROVE CIRCLE development adjacent to Hospital Drive. Although the proposed
TLH HOLDINGS building is slightly larger than is shown on the approved concept
plan, the increased building area is less than a 10% and does not
PLANNED UNIT require an amendment to the concept plan. Staff discussed the
DEVELOPMENT – plans in further detail and made the following recommendation.
DEVELOPMENT
STAFF RECOMMENDATION:
STAGE PLAN TO
CONSTRUCT AN
Motion to recommend that the City Council direct the City
APPROXIMATELY Attorney to draft a Resolution and a Planned Unit Development
5,937 SQUARE agreement approving The Grove 15715 Grove Circle PUD
FOOT MEDICAL development stage plan, subject to:
OFFICE BUILDING
1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the city
any remaining applicable comments contained in the
memorandums from:
a. The Transportation Operations Engineer dated
March 3, 2021
b. The Fire Department dated March 8, 2021
c. The Water Resources Engineer dated February 26,
2021
d. The Parks & Recreation Department, dated March 3,
2021
The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation to the
Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent board action.
Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each month.
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Discussion
Commissioner Piket asked if the building would have a large
atrium. Mr. Vickerman stated this was the entryway and the other
portions of the building would be medical offices.
Chris Whitehouse, architect for the project, commented further on
how the entryway would serve as the waiting room for the medical
offices.
Commissioner Lindeman commended the applicant and architect
for creating an attractive medical office building.
Motion by Commissioner Lindeman, seconded by
Commissioner Piket, to recommend that the City Council
direct the City Attorney to draft a Resolution and a Planned
Unit Development agreement approving The Grove 15715
Grove Circle PUD development stage plan, subject to:
1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the city
any remaining applicable comments contained in the
memorandums from:
a. The Transportation Operations Engineer dated
March 3, 2021
b. The Fire Department dated March 8, 2021
c. The Water Resources Engineer dated February
26, 2021
d. The Parks & Recreation Department, dated
March 3, 2021
The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation
to the Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent board
action. Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each
month.
Upon call of the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven
ayes and no nays. Motion carried.
Mr. Hogeboom stated the applicant seeks the Shoppes at Arbor
PUBLIC HEARING
Lakes is seeking an amendment to its concept plan to allow a
drive-through to be constructed as part of the planned Shake Shack
SHAKE SHACK
restaurant. Shake Shack, which was initially approved in March,
PRISA ARBOR 2020, would be a stand-alone restaurant building located between
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LAKES, LLC the shopping center’ s primary access drive onto Elm Creek
Boulevard and Red Lobster. Shake Shack is a fast-casual restaurant
12459 ELM CREEK that specializes in hamburgers, fries and milkshakes. There are
BOULEVARD currently 249 Shake Shack restaurants worldwide, with Minnesota
NORTH locations in Southdale Center and the Mall of America. Initial
plans for the Maple Grove location were put on hold at the start of
PLANNED UNIT the global pandemic. Staff discussed the plans in further detail with
DEVELOPMENT – the Commission and made the following recommendation.
DEVELOPMENT
STAGE PLAN STAFF RECOMMENDATION:
AMENDMENT TO
Motion to recommend that the City Council direct the City
CONSTRUCT A
Attorney to draft a Planned Unit Development Agreement and a
STAND- ALONE
Resolution approving the Shake Shack PUD non-residential and
3,200 SQUARE development stage plan amendment, subject to:
FOOT
RESTAURANT TO 1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the City
INCLUDE A any remaining applicable comments contained in the
DRIVE- THROUGH memorandums from:
IN THE
a. The Engineering Department dated February 24,
NORTHWEST 2021 and March 24, 2021
QUADRANT OF b. The Fire Department dated March 8, 2021
THE PROPERTY
The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation to the
Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent board action.
Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each month.
Discussion
Commissioner Lenthe commented on the access area to the drive
through area. He questioned if a vehicle entering from the east
could make the circle in the parking lot to the drive through. Mr.
Hogeboom stated this was his understanding. He deferred this
question to the applicant.
Jeff Westendorf, representative for the applicant, explained truck
movements have been done in this area and pick up trucks could
complete this movement.
Commissioner Lindeman stated she was concerned with how busy
the Shake Shack would be upon opening. She understood this
business would be run by the Shoppes at Arbor Lakes and asked if
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the applicant had coordinated traffic control measures in place to
ensure there would not be traffic problems. Mr. Hogeboom
reported he has spoken to Mike Lanstad, the manager of the
Shoppes at Arbor Lakes, there would be plans to control the
parking lot and entry points. He reported staff has had extensive
conversations with management to ensure traffic concerns were
addressed. He commented further on the internal controls and
signage that would be in place.
Commissioner Ostaffe questioned if traffic would back up on to the
entrance road if the Shake Shack drive through were busy. Mr.
Hogeboom explained this drive through will be Shake Shack’ s first
drive through company-wide. He reported if there was a day when
traffic was anticipated to be heavy, the immediate entrance could
be closed and traffic could be looped through the parking lot to
ensure there were not backups on Elm Creek Boulevard.
Chair Lamothe stated he had concerns with this amendment as
related to the drive through. He commented he was not real keen
on the way it was laid out. He was concerned with the loss of
parking at the corner. He indicated parking was important in this
area, along with pedestrian safety. He indicated he was uncertain
how pedestrian traffic was being rerouted. He questioned why the
restaurant was not oriented more parallel with Elm Creek
Boulevard. Mr. Hogeboom deferred this question to the applicant
but stated it was his understanding this orientation preserved the
most amount of parking. He indicated when the building was
shifted more spaces were lost.
Mr. Westendorf stated he tried several different building layouts
on this site and the proposed orientation preserved the most
parking and provided the most snow storage. He explained several
parking studies have been completed and he believed there was
plenty of parking onsite.
Chair Lamothe indicated the space that is furthest from the front
door would be used by employees. He questioned why this space
wasn’ t used versus taking the premium spaces. Mr. Westendorf
stated again the proposed building orientation preserved and
maximized the parking. Mr. Hogeboom added that the plans were
presented to Pot Belly and their staff had no concerns with the
proposed plans.
Commissioner Piket shared the same concerns as Chair Lamothe
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regarding the building orientation and prime parking space loss.
Commissioner Ostaffe reported there was a legal agreement in
place regarding parking and he feared the existing restaurant (Pot
Belly) was being short changed by the new restaurant. He stated
this was concerning to him.
Chair Lamothe commented at this point he could not support
staff’ s recommendation for this request. He recommended the
restaurant be moved down to the corner, away from the existing
building in order to provide better circulation and preservation of
higher value parking. He indicated he could support a drive
through at this location, but not as proposed. He explained the
plans before the Commission were less desirable than the plans
that were approved in February of 2020.
Commissioner Piket reiterated that he would like to see this
building oriented similar to Portillo’ s, versus taking out the
parking that was closer to the other shops and would be sorely
missed. Mr. Hogeboom explained the one difference between
Portillo’ s and this site was there also needs to be accommodations
for Red Lobster.
Commissioner Ostaffe asked what would be the other options for
the building orientation and how would parking be impacted. Mr.
Hogeboom discussed the cross parking agreement that was in
place for Red Lobster at the Shoppes at Arbor Lakes. He reported
he did not have the figures with him as to what was lost and
gained based on the different building orientations. Mr.
Westendorf stated 15 to 20 stalls were lost if the building were
reoriented.
Chair Lamothe reported 15 was not a large number to him and
noted not all parking spaces were created equal. He supported the
building be reoriented for future consideration. Mr. Westendorf
stated he could look at this further. He reiterated that the parking
agreement with Red Lobster called for 264 parking stalls and
currently he was proposing to have 265 parking spaces. He noted
if the building was reoriented the parking requirements with Red
Lobster would not be met.
Commissioner Lenthe stated he too was concerned with loss of
parking near Pot Belly. He suggested this item be tabled in order
to allow the applicant to provide the Commission with alternative
layouts for the Shake Shack in order to preserve more parking for
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Pot Belly.
Chair Lamothe stated he would support this recommendation. He
indicated he would also like to know more about the pre-pandemic
parking needs for Red Lobster to better understand if 264 parking
stalls were required for the restaurants in this area.
Motion by Chair Lamothe, seconded by Commissioner Lenthe,
to table action on this item to the April 12, 2021 Planning
Commission meeting to allow the applicant to reorient the
building for better traffic flow and parking purposes.
Commissioner Ayika asked if the parking agreement between Red
Lobster and the applicant could be renegotiated. Mr. Hogeboom
stated he was uncertain as to the terms of the agreement. He
explained he would have to look into this further with Mr. Lanstad
to better understand the parking terms.
Commissioner Piket questioned how tabling this matter would
impact the applicant. Mr. Westendorf commented this would cut
into the start of construction for the restaurant, which was not
ideal.
Commissioner Piket explained the alternative would be for the
Planning Commission to recommend denial of the request with the
understanding the City Council would have the final say on this
matter.
Chair Lamothe stated he would be willing to remove his motion to
table if the Commission wanted to move to deny. City Attorney
Landsman suggested the Commission keep this motion on the floor
and move forward with a motion to deny. If the motion to deny
fails, the Commission could table action to April 12, 2021.
Chair Lamothe commented his preference would be to allow the
applicant to come back with something different, but if there were
not enough votes to table, he would support denial.
Commissioner Lindeman explained the applicant does not want the
item tabled at this time. For this reason, she recommended the
Commission recommend denial.
Commissioner Piket agreed this was the way in which the
applicant would like to move forward, even if it meant a
recommendation for denial to the City Council.
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Motion by Commissioner Piket, seconded by Chair Lamothe,
to recommend that the City Council direct the City Attorney to
draft a Planned Unit Development Agreement and a
Resolution denying the Shake Shack PUD non-residential and
development stage plan amendment, subject to:
1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the
City any remaining applicable comments contained
in the memorandums from:
a. The Engineering Department dated February 24,
2021 and March 24, 2021
b. The Fire Department dated March 8, 2021
The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation
to the Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent board
action. Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each
month.
Mr. Hogeboom stated if there was a notion the Commission
wanted to approve the request with extra conditions, staff could
take another look at enhanced signage, pedestrian crossings and
parking.
Commissioner Piket indicated he had considered this, but noted
this would be such a significant change to the plans.
Chair Lamothe commented unless staff was considering a
reorientation of the building, he would not be able to make a
positive recommendation.
Commissioner Lenthe requested the applicant speak to the
Commission on how he would like this item to move forward. Mr.
Westendorf stated at this time, he would prefer the Commission to
table action on this item to allow him to come back with an
alternate layout.
Chair Lamothe stated he was open to either motion, but would
defer to the wishes of the applicant.
Commissioner Ayika agreed it would be best to see the building
reoriented versus denying the current design. He thanked the
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applicant for agreeing to this compromise.
Commissioner Piket withdrew his motion to deny the request.
Chair Lamothe withdrew his second to deny the request. He noted
the motion to table this item to April 12, 2021 was now on the
floor.
Commissioner Ayika questioned if the applicant understood the
concerns the Commission has with the request, which had to do
with the building orientation, the drive through stacking, and the
existing parking contract with Red Lobster.
Chair Lamothe stated he would also like the applicant to address
what Red Lobster’ s parking needs are currently and what the
pedestrian connectivity would be to the main aisle into the heart of
the Shoppes at Arbor Lakes. Mr. Westendorf noted the existing
parking lot from Public to Pot Belly would remain as is. He noted
the north end would be pulled off into this site. Mr. Hogeboom
reviewed the site plan in further detail with the Commission noting
the existing sidewalk location and reviewed the concerns of Chair
Lamothe.
Upon call of the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven
ayes and no nays. Motion carried.
PUBLIC HEARING Mr. Vickerman stated the applicant seeks a Planned Unit
Development ( PUD) concept stage plan, development stage plan
PALISADES AT and rezoning approval for a seven lot, single-family detached home
NOTTINGHAM 3RD neighborhood. The total size is approximately 5 acres in size,
ADDITION with .12 acres of wetlands. The proposed density of 1.43 units per
acre is consistent with the low-medium residential guiding of 1-4
PALISADES AT units per acre. Access is proposed via a continuation of Xene Lane
NOTTINGHAM N which will then turn to the east ( becoming 73rd Avenue North)
DEVELOPMENT, and connect with Zanzibar Lane. A sidewalk is provided on one
side of this street as was done in the rest of the Nottingham
LLC
neighborhood. All lots are proposed to be over 10,000 s.f. in size
and at least 85 feet in width. In general, the proposal is almost
7310 ZANZIBAR
identical to the ghost plat that was created for this site when the
LANE NORTH Nottingham neighborhood was developed. Staff discussed the
plans in further detail and made the following recommendation.
PLANNED UNIT
DEVELOPMENT STAFF RECOMMENDATION:
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CONCEPT STAGE
PLAN, Motion to recommend that the City Council direct the City
Attorney to draft a Resolution and a Planned Unit Development
DEVELOPMENT
agreement approving the Palisades at Nottingham 3rd Addition
STAGE PLAN AND PUD concept stage plan and development stage plan, subject to:
REZONING TO
CONSTRUCT 7 1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the city any
DETACHED remaining applicable comments contained in the
SINGLE- FAMILY memorandums from:
HOMES
a. The Community & Economic Development
Department dated March 22, 2021
b. The Water Resources Engineer dated March 10,
2021
c. The Parks & Recreation Department, dated March 9,
2021
Motion to recommend the City Council direct the City Attorney to
draft an Ordinance rezoning property from R-A, Single Family
Agricultural to PUD Planned Unit Development subject to the
approval of the final plat.
The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation to the
Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent board action.
Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each month.
Discussion
Commissioner Piket asked if the Arbor Committee had a chance to
review this request. Mr. Vickerman stated the Arbor Committee
Chair and Vice Chair had reviewed this matter and noted the
request met the City’ s requirements because they were under the
51%.
Commissioner Lenthe questioned what future uses could be
located on the open spaces adjacent to this parcel. Mr. Vickerman
shared his screen with the Commission and discussed the uses that
could locate on these adjacent properties.
Commissioner Ayika inquired if there would be sidewalks on both
sides of the street. Mr. Vickerman commented all of the roads in
the Nottingham neighborhood have sidewalks on only one side of
the street and this would be continued. He explained a second
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sidewalk would not be constructed on the south side of the street.
Chair Lamothe commented the sidewalk would shift to the north
due to property considerations. He asked how this maneuver
would be done safely. Mr. Vickerman indicated this was not
typical. He noted a number of different options were reviewed by
staff and the applicant. He believed that it was better to have some
sidewalk out there rather than no sidewalk. He reported there
would be low traffic in this neighborhood and for this reason, a
mid-block crossing was being proposed.
Commissioner Ostaffe questioned if the sidewalk was moved to the
north, would the road then be shifted and therefore be forcing the
development to have smaller lot sizes. Mr. Vickerman reported the
intent would be to have the road in the same place. He explained
the area would be seeded along the south edge and the lot sizes
would not be limited.
Commissioner Ostaffe inquired what the intent of the developer
would be for the new homes. He discussed the location of the
ravine on this property and asked if walkouts would be
constructed, which could mean additional tree loss. Mr. Vickerman
reported the applicant was proposing walkouts on all of the lots.
He discussed how the lots had been oriented in order to save as
many trees as possible.
The applicant was at the meeting to answer questions.
Eric Zehnder, Zehnder Homes, thanked the Commission for their
consideration. He stated staff had done a great job summarizing his
request and indicated he looked forward to moving forward with
this development in Maple Grove. He noted he had lost one lot by
reorienting the development around the ravine in an attempt to
save more trees.
Chair Lamothe opened the public hearing at 8:01 p.m.
The public was asked by Chair Lamothe if they had any comments
to make regarding this application.
Douglas Pollei, 16357 72nd Place North, explained he lives just
west of this proposed development. He stated he has lived in this
Nottingham neighborhood for the past 15 years. He indicated he
was concerned about the loss of the old growth or historical trees.
He encouraged the developer to build around the old trees. He
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reported these trees would serve as a natural border to the southern
area of the development. He recommended the southern border
adjacent to the road that is old growth be preserved. He stated this
could be done based upon a bylaw put in place by the city that old
growth trees are known as historical trees.
Brian Loftsgard, 7297 Weston Lane, stated he lived just south of
the subject property. He requested the trees be preserved as much
as possible. He questioned why the trees to the west that are not
on the subject property were being removed. Mr. Vickerman
commented there was a condition for approval that any trees that
appeared off the property would have to receive approval from the
landowner prior to being removed.
Mr. Zehnder reported the plans had been adjusted to address this
concern and no trees would be removed that were not on the
property. He noted the tree survey had been revised to reflect this
change.
Mr. Loftsgard requested he receive a copy of the revised tree
survey. He explained on the northwest corner of his property is a
gazebo that was there when he purchased his home. He wanted to
be assured that if the developer were to damage his gazebo that the
developer would make it right. Mr. Zehnder stated this would be
the case. He reported he did not intend to damage property that was
not his and if this did occur, he would make it right.
Kay Carlson, 7250 Zanzibar Lane, reported she lives to the south
of the proposed development. She stated she was concerned with
how the elevation of the walkouts would look from her home. She
estimated the walkout homes would be six feet higher than her
home. In addition, she feared how water would run off these homes
onto adjacent properties. She indicated she had spent thousands of
dollars repairing the prairie on her property and did not want
excessive amounts of water runoff and wet areas destroying her
prairie land. She noted she has already lost two apple trees and
other trees because she has standing water in her backyard from the
drainage coming off adjacent land spilling into her backyard. She
anticipated there would be additional tree loss if more water was
pushed onto her property.
Mr. Vickerman reviewed the drainage plan with the Commission
noting all of the driveways for the new homes would drain to the
road. He explained the engineering department has been in contact
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with Ms. Carlson regarding her prairie area. He noted a storm
sewer inlet was being created to bring water to the stormwater
system. He commented further on the grading within the
development as it approaches Zanzibar Lane. He reported the
specific details would be worked out at a later phase for this
project. He then discussed the elevation difference between the
new homes and the existing homes.
Tom Marchant, 7298 Weston Lane, encouraged the developer to
save as many trees as possible. He stated he and his wife moved to
Maple Grove nine months ago noting he appreciated the City’s
efforts to preserve trees and wildlife. He discussed the beauty that
was found along the Medicine Lake Regional Trail and noted this
development was built along this ridgeline. He thanked Zehnder
Homes for staying west of the ravine. He indicated this was an
admirable move. However, he encouraged the developer to do even
more to preserve more trees.
Shawn Gilligan, 16402 76th Place North, stated he has lived in
Maple Grove since 2005. He discussed how all of Maple Grove
benefits from the trees and wildlife in the community. He
commented on how the neighborhood has developed over the past
20 years, noting this has led to increased traffic and shifts in how
water drains. He suggested the Commission meet with the
neighborhood association prior to moving forward with this
development to ensure all needs were being met.
Mary Parenteau, Chair of the Arbor Committee, explained she had
reviewed the plan and the request was just below the 50%
threshold. She indicated after reviewing the plan further, she
understood there were very large oaks ( 150 years old) in the
southern portion of the property that would be lost. She stated
these trees have great value. She encouraged the developer to work
to save these trees.
Scott Feinberg, 16528 78th Avenue North, agreed a neighborhood
review would benefit this development. He noted the majority of
his neighbors were on spring break right now and would not in
attendance at this meeting. He reported his home backed up to the
trail. He stated he feared how the area would be impacted by the
tremendous tree loss. He encouraged the Commission to hold off
on taking action on this item until more neighbors could offer
feedback.
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Mr. Loftsgard stated the more trees that can be saved the better for
both the new homeowners and the existing homeowners.
Mr. Zehnder responded he understood where the community is
coming from. He pointed out that he was for trees. He explained he
would not be taking trees that were not on his property. He noted
all of the trees on the hill would remain, along with the trees to the
east of the ravine. He reported this natural preserve area would
remain. However, he noted he was requesting a conforming plat
that met all City requirements and was within the density
requirements. He indicated he could have requested an eighth lot,
but voluntarily removed this lot in order to save more trees. He
commented further on the grading plan noting this property was
only two feet higher than the neighboring property. He discussed
how the stormwater and drainage plans for the site would assist in
capturing water runoff from this site that would benefit the
neighboring properties.
Mr. Carlson stated when she spoke to City staff earlier this week,
she was told the elevation of her property was 968 to 970 and that
the elevation on the new homes would be 976, which was a six
foot difference.
Mr. Pollei explained he received a letter from the City two weeks
prior to this meeting so there was no way for the neighborhood to
work as a group to decide whether a common group should come
to this meeting. He recommended action on this item be tabled in
order to allow the community to come together to discuss the
proposed development.
Motion by Commissioner Piket, seconded by Commissioner
Lindeman, to close the public hearing at 8:35 p.m. Upon call
of the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no
nays. Motion carried.
Chair Lamothe asked how many trees were saved by the developer
giving back the eighth lot. Mr. Vickerman stated he does not recall
that a full tree analysis had been done on the eight lots. Mr.
Zehnder commented he does not have a number in front of him,
but noted it was a significant number by reducing the eighth lot.
Chair Lamothe requested further comment on how the applicant
had engaged the neighborhood. Mr. Zehnder reported he was
building the Nottingham 2nd Addition which meant he had been in
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the neighborhood building homes for the past year. He stated he
approached the association and the board knows what he was
doing because he requested his development be annexed into the
neighborhood. He noted he has traded emails with Brian
Loftsgard. In addition, he noted Mr. Marchant and other neighbors
have called him.
Chair Lamothe questioned if any other efforts were made to reach
out to the neighborhood. Mr. Zehnder commented he did not go
knocking on doors, but he had approached the board with his
request. He explained there were only a handful of properties that
abut this development.
Commissioner Lindeman inquired if notices were sent to the
neighbors within the required timeframe. Mr. Vickerman reported
this was the case. He explained city staff followed State Statute on
this matter.
Commissioner Lindeman asked if the applicant would be agreeable
to meeting with the neighbors to address their concerns if the item
were tabled. Mr. Zehnder stated he would be willing to meet with
people, but he was hopeful the item would not be tabled given the
fact this was a conforming plat.
Commissioner Lenthe commented some of the discussion
regarding 71st Place and the old oak trees along this roadway. He
noted the sidewalk was being moved from the south to the north
side and this should save some trees. He questioned if there would
be value in moving the street further to the north to save additional
trees. Mr. Vickerman stated the grading would have to be further
evaluated noting the road would have to be pushed quite a ways
away from the oak trees in order to save their root systems. Mr.
Zehnder commented in looking at the tree survey, there were ash
trees, boxelder trees and basswoods. He noted there were not any
oaks along that property line. He anticipated there were a couple
of oaks in the triangle area that could be saved. He indicated when
the property to the south develops, he noted additional trees would
be lost. He agreed trees are great and he would work to save as
many as possible. He encouraged the adjacent residents to
remember that trees were taken down for their homes to be built.
Commissioner Piket requested further comment from the applicant
regarding the Nottingham 2nd Addition and the trees that were
saved within this development. Mr. Zehnder reiterated that he
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likes trees and he would work to keep the tree protected. He stated
he has had great success in saving a number of trees in the
Nottingham 2nd Addition.
Commissioner Klein commented on the tree removal calculations
and the number of caliper inches that would be removed. She
asked if old growth trees were taken into consideration. Mr.
Vickerman commented the overall number of inches was
considered. He explained the older trees count for more inches if
they are taken down or if they are saved.
Commissioner Klein questioned if there were other cities that take
into account old growth trees versus just looking at inches. Mr.
Vickerman indicated he was not aware of this.
Commissioner Klein stated it was terrible that old growth trees
were being removed, but she also understood people had the right
to develop their own private property. She questioned if the
Planning Commission should be looking to review its tree
preservation ordinance and if old growth trees should be treated
differently in the future. Mr. Vickerman explained staff was in the
midst of updating the T-zone Ordinance and this could be
discussed through this work.
Motion by Commissioner Lindeman, seconded by
Commissioner Lenthe, to recommend that the City Council
direct the City Attorney to draft a Resolution and a Planned
Unit Development agreement approving the Palisades at
Nottingham 3rd Addition PUD concept stage plan and
development stage plan encouraging the developer to work
with the neighbors regarding their concerns and subject to:
1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the city
any remaining applicable comments contained in the
memorandums from:
a. The Community & Economic Development
Department dated March 22, 2021
b. The Water Resources Engineer dated March 10,
2021
c. The Parks & Recreation Department, dated
March 9, 2021.
The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
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requirements are based on staff review and recommendation
to the Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent board
action. Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each
month.
Commissioner Ostaffe noted there were some old growth trees that
could possible be saved. He encouraged the developer to do a walk
through with the neighbors to point how which can be saved and
which cannot.
Commissioner Ayika supported the developer meeting with the
neighbors. He reiterated that the developer had already given up
one lot in order to save trees. He anticipated the developer would
enhance the water runoff by developing the property. He noted the
developer would not be able to save all of the trees, but encouraged
the developer to look at saving as many of the old growth trees as
possible. He commented overall, this looked like a good
development.
Commissioner Lenthe asked if there was a way to require the
applicant to meet with the Arbor Committee or planning staff to
further review the trees along the south lot line in an effort to
preserve more trees.
Chair Lamothe asked if this could be made a condition for
approval. City Attorney Landsman explained the Commission
could amend the motion to include this condition.
Commissioner Ayika stated typically the Commission makes
recommendations when there are specific things to do. However,
when the applicant needs to work items out with staff or the
neighbors, he did not believe an amendment was necessary.
Chair Lamothe agreed that over the past 10 years he did not recall
an amendment that required a developer to speak with the
neighbors. He reported he was supportive of the development
overall. He indicated he was disappointed with the lack of
engagement with the surrounding community, particularly
knowing trees were a sensitive subject. He questioned how the
Commission wanted to proceed.
Commissioner Ayika recommended the item move forward
without an amendment, but rather that the applicant be encouraged
to speak further with the neighbors and staff regarding tree
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preservation.
Commissioner Piket agreed noting he was impressed the applicant
had already given up one lot to save trees.
Commissioner Lenthe noted he would be supportive of the motion
and this item moving forward.
Commissioner Ostaffe explained he can see the west side of this
property from his deck. He understood a number of the trees would
be coming down for the new lots and encouraged the developer to
save as many trees as possible.
Upon call of the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven
ayes and no nays. Motion carried.
Motion by Commissioner Lindeman, seconded by
Commissioner Lenthe, to recommend that the City Attorney
draft an Ordinance rezoning property from R-A, Single
Family Agricultural to PUD Planned Unit Development
subject to the approval of the final plat. Upon call of the
motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no nays.
Motion carried.
Mr. Zehnder encouraged the neighbors to contact him and stated he
would be happy to meet with neighbors on the property on Tuesday
or Wednesday to walk through the property.
DISCUSSION There were no discussion items.
ITEMS
ADJOURNMENT Motion by Commissioner Ayika, seconded by Commissioner
Lindeman, to adjourn the Planning Commission meeting.
Upon call of the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven
ayes and no nays. Motion carried.
Chair Lamothe adjourned the meeting at 9:06 p.m. to the next
regularly scheduled meeting of the Planning Commission
scheduled for April 12, 2021.
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