Planning Commission
Regular MeetingMaple Grove, MN · October 25, 2021
Minutes
MAPLE GROVE
PLANNING COMMISSION
October 25, 2021
CALL TO ORDER A meeting of the Maple Grove Planning Commission was held at
7:00 p.m. on October 25, 2021 at the Maple Grove City Hall,
Hennepin County, Minnesota. Chair Lamothe called the meeting to
order at 7:00 p.m.
PLEDGE OF
ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL Planning Commission members present were Chair Craig
Lamothe, Chris Ayika, Lorie Klein, Susan Lindeman, Chuck
Lenthe, Michael Ostaffe, and Joe Piket. Present also were Peter
Vickerman, Planning Manager; and Scott Landsman, City
Attorney.
ITEMS TO BE None.
REMOVED FROM
THE AGENDA
CONSENT ITEMS The following Consent Items were presented for the Commission’s
approval:
MINUTES
A. Regular Meeting – September 27, 2021
Motion by Commissioner Ayika, seconded by Commissioner
Lenthe, to approve the Consent Items as presented. Upon call
of the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no
nays. Motion carried.
CONSIDERATION None.
OF ITEMS PULLED
FROM CONSENT
AGENDA
REVIEW OF THE Mr. Vickerman reviewed with the Commission what items the City
CITY COUNCIL Council approved that was given direction at the Planning
Commission level.
MINUTES FROM
THEIR REGULAR
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MEETING OF
OCTOBER 18, 2021
OLD BUSINESS No items to present.
NEW BUSINESS
Mr. Vickerman stated the applicant is requesting a short plat
PUBLIC HEARING
review of his proposal to split the lot at 8202 Walnut Grove Lane
North into two lots. The subject property is located within the R-1
LOUKUSA
Single-Family Residential District. Staff discussed the plans in
ADDITION
further detail and made the following recommendation.
DAVID LOUKUSA
STAFF RECOMMENDATION:
8202 WALNUT
GROVE LANE Motion to recommend that the City Council direct the City
NORTH Attorney to draft a Resolution approving the Loukusa Addition
short plat subject to:
SHORT PLAT FOR
THE PURPOSE OF 1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the city any
PLATTING THE remaining applicable comments contained in the
PROPERTY INTO memorandums from:
TWO PARCELS a. The Community & Economic Development
Department dated September 20, 2021
b. Water Resources dated September 16, 2021
c. The Parks & Recreation Department, dated October
5, 2021
The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation to the
Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent board action.
Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each month.
The applicant was at the meeting to answer questions.
Chair Lamothe opened the public hearing at 7:03 p.m.
The public was asked by Chair Lamothe if they had any comments
to make regarding this application.
No one wished to address the Commission.
Motion by Chair Lamothe, seconded by Commissioner Piket,
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to close the public hearing at 7:04 p.m. Upon call of the
motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no nays.
Motion carried.
Motion by Commissioner Ayika, seconded by Commissioner
Lenthe, to recommend that the City Council direct the City
Attorney to draft a Resolution approving the Loukusa
Addition short plat subject to:
1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the city
any remaining applicable comments contained in the
memorandums from:
a. The Community & Economic Development
Department dated September 20, 2021
b. Water Resources dated September 16, 2021
c. The Parks & Recreation Department, dated
October 5, 2021
The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation
to the Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent board
action. Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each
month.
Upon call of the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven
ayes and no nays. Motion carried.
Mr. Vickerman stated the applicants are proposing to subdivide the
PUBLIC HEARING
parcel at 12101 93rd Avenue N into four separate lots to build two
twin homes (for a total of four units.) Existing conditions of the
HANSEN SHIH
property show a lot area of 28,595 square feet (0.66 acres) and a lot
MAPLE ADDITION
width of 200 feet along County Road 30 (93rd Avenue N) The site
12101 MAPLE LLC is guided for medium density residential which has a density range
of four to ten units per acre. The development is modeled after the
12101 93RD
twin home lots lining 92nd Avenue N located just south of this
AVENUE NORTH proposed development site. Each of those lots are approximately
PLANNED UNIT 45 feet wide. This allows the two townhome structures to be closer
DEVELOPMENT so that there is enough room to accommodate guest parking/turn
RESIDENTIAL around areas at the ends of the private driveway. Vehicular access
CONCEPT STAGE to the site is proposed off of County Road 30 with a shared private
PLAN, driveway. The units and driveway are arranged so that residents
leaving the site will not need to back onto County Road 30 but can
DEVELOPMENT
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STAGE PLAN AND turn around onsite. This property received a variance on
FINAL PLAT FOR September 3, 1991 which allowed the residential lot direct access
THE PURPOSE TO onto a minor arterial street. The variance was approved in
CONSTRUCT TWO combination with the Wellington Crest 3rd Addition plat that
changed this lot from an outlot to lot and block status. Staff
SEPARATE TWIN
discussed the plans in further detail and made the following
HOME recommendation.
STRUCTURES
THAT CONTAIN STAFF RECOMMENDATION:
TWO UNITS EACH
Motion to recommend that the City Council direct the City
Attorney to draft a Resolution and a Planned Unit Development
agreement approving the Hansen Shih Maple Addition PUD
concept stage plan, development stage plan and final plat subject
to:
1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the city any
remaining applicable comments contained in the
memorandums from:
a. The Parks & Recreation Department, dated October 5,
2021
b. Hennepin County Public Works dated September 30,
2021
c. Hennepin County Public Works dated October 28,
2020
2. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the
Engineering Department all applicable comments contained
in the drawing dated October 15, 2021.
The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation to the
Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent board action.
Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each month.
Discussion
Commissioner Lindeman asked what the plans were for this site in
1991. Mr. Vickerman commented the plans were to have one
twinhome on the property.
Commissioner Piket questioned if the property lines would run
through the middle of the twinhomes. Mr. Vickerman reported this
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was the case.
Commissioner Lenthe inquired if an easement would run along the
front of the property for the driveway. Mr. Vickerman commented
a shared access easement would be in place for the driveway.
Commissioner Ostaffe asked how deep the turnaround would be.
Mr. Vickerman explained staff worked with the applicant on this
and noted these spaces were 20 feet deep, along with the area in
front of the garages.
Commissioner Ostaffe questioned if the City had different guiding
back in 1991 versus today to allow for one twinhome versus two.
Mr. Vickerman commented he was uncertain if the guidance was
different. He noted the rest of the neighborhood was guided low
density which allowed for one to four units per acre.
Commissioner Ostaffe inquired if the curb cut onto County Road
30 would cause a speed reduction for a greater distance. Mr.
Vickerman reported this was looked at by the traffic folks and
there was not concern.
Chair Lamothe discussed the cross section of County Road 30
back in 1991 and asked if adjustments would be made to the
painted median to provide safe access into this property. Mr.
Vickerman commented Hennepin County would be painting the
median to allow a left turn into the property. He indicated
Hennepin County did not have concerns about access in and out of
the property given the low density and number of units on the site.
The applicant was at the meeting to answer questions.
Chair Lamothe opened the public hearing at 7:18 p.m.
The public was asked by Chair Lamothe if they had any comments
to make regarding this application.
Carman Laing, 9261 Ives La N, questioned if the twinhomes would
be slab on grade. She inquired if the twinhomes would be rented
or owned and what the value of the units would be. Lane Hansen,
4925 Ridge Road in Edina, explained the twinhomes would be 34’
by 68’ and would be two stories from the back. He reported the
twinhomes would be 2,000 square feet in size with three
bedrooms. He indicated the twinhomes would be rented but may
be owned eventually. He stated the lawn and snow would be
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contracted out for the two twinhomes.
Ms. Laing expressed concern with these units being rented noting
she wanted her neighborhood to be protected. She requested the
existing trees be protected as well. Mr. Hansen noted the proposal
would be to add seven additional trees and not to remove any trees.
Ms. Laing indicated she did not want the existing culvert to be
impacted because this was a drainage outlet for her neighborhood.
She noted this culvert is cleaned out every three to four years.
Mr. Hansen reported he was mowing this area.
Chair Lamothe recommended staff speak with the Public Works
Department regarding this matter to ensure the culvert area would
not be disturbed and have this matter resolved prior to the City
Council meeting on Monday, November 1. Mr. Vickerman stated
this would be his intent.
Jessica Hammer, 9278 Ives Lane North, expressed concern with
the amount of traffic that would be turning in and out of this
property and how pedestrians using the walking path would be
impacted.
Mary Anderson, 12029 92nd Avenue, reported she lived down from
the cul-de-sac on the corner. She stated she has lived in her home
since 1984. She noted she was concerned about the fact these
would not be owner-occupied luxury townhomes, like she was told
would be on this site. She explained this development would
generate a lot of traffic and were not luxury townhomes. She feared
how her property value would be adversely impacted.
Motion by Chair Lamothe, seconded by Commissioner Piket,
to close the public hearing at 7:35 p.m. Upon call of the
motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no nays.
Motion carried.
Chair Lamothe requested the applicant address the comments or
concerns that were raised.
Mr. Hansen explained the twinhomes would be very upscale with
varying rooflines with tall windows and solid surfaces in the
kitchen. He indicated the garages were oversized to allow for
ample storage.
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Commissioner Ostaffe asked if the end parking would be for guests
only. Mr. Hansen reported this was the case.
Commissioner Ostaffe recommended the waste canisters be
properly screened from public view or be stored within the garage.
Motion by Commissioner Lenthe, seconded by Commissioner
Ayika, to recommend that the City Council direct the City
Attorney to draft a Resolution and a Planned Unit
Development agreement approving the Hansen Shih Maple
Addition PUD concept stage plan, development stage plan and
final plat subject to:
1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the city
any remaining applicable comments contained in the
memorandums from:
a. The Parks & Recreation Department, dated October
5, 2021
b. Hennepin County Public Works dated September
30, 2021
c. Hennepin County Public Works dated October 28,
2020
2. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the
Engineering Department all applicable comments
contained in the drawing dated October 15, 2021.
The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation
to the Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent board
action. Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each
month.
Commissioner Lindeman stated she did not care for this
development. She did not believe this property was zoned properly
and the four homes were a concern to her. She indicated she
would be voting to approve the request because it met the City’s
requirements and not because she supported the request.
Commissioner Piket agreed this property was zoned wrong and
there were too many units being proposed for this site, especially
given the fact the site only had one entrance and exit. He explained
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he would be much more supportive if there was only one
twinhome. He stated he would be voting against this request.
Commissioner Ostaffe indicated he was concerned with how this
site was be accessed. He discussed the location of the new median
that was installed near this property and feared this median would
impact traffic trying to enter and exit this property. He stated he
also did not support these units being rental given the fact the
surrounding properties were all single family homes.
Chair Lamothe stated he was in agreement with Commissioner
Lindeman. He indicated the zoning was wrong, but this was
something the Commission could not change. He explained he
would be supporting this request, but had concerns.
Commissioner Piket discussed how difficult it would be for eight
vehicles to enter and exit this property during peak traffic hours.
Commissioner Ostaffe noted that if these were rental units, there
could be four to six cars per unit, which was an even greater
concern to him.
Chair Lamothe called the question.
Upon call of the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were five
ayes and two nays (Commissioners Ostaffe and Piket). Motion
carried.
DISCUSSION There were no discussion items.
ITEMS
ADJOURNMENT Motion by Chair Lamothe, seconded by Commissioner Ayika,
to adjourn the Planning Commission meeting. Upon call of
the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no
nays. Motion carried.
Chair Lamothe adjourned the meeting at 7:50 p.m. to the next
regularly scheduled meeting of the Planning Commission
scheduled for November 8, 2021.
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