Planning Commission
Regular MeetingMaple Grove, MN · May 8, 2023
Minutes
MAPLE GROVE
PLANNING COMMISSION
May 8, 2023
CALL TO ORDER A meeting of the Maple Grove Planning Commission was held at
7:00 p.m. on May 8, 2023 at the Maple Grove City Hall, Hennepin
County, Minnesota. Chair Lamothe called the meeting to order at
7:00 p.m.
PLEDGE OF
ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL Planning Commission members present were Chair Craig
Lamothe, Chris Ayika, Lorie Klein, Chuck Lenthe, Michael
Ostaffe, Joe Piket and Stephanie Tomlinson. Present also were ;
Peter Vickerman, Planning Manager; -and Scott Landsman, City
Attorney.
ITEMS TO BE None.
REMOVED FROM
THE AGENDA
CONSENT ITEMS The following Consent Items were presented for the Commission’s
approval:
MINUTES
A. Regular Meeting – March 27, 2023
Motion by Commissioner Lenthe, seconded by Commissioner
Ayika, to approve the Consent Items as presented. Upon call
of the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no
nays. Motion carried.
CONSIDERATION None.
OF ITEMS PULLED
FROM CONSENT
AGENDA
UPDATE ON CITY Mr. Vickerman reviewed with the Commission what items the City
COUNCIL Council approved that was given direction at the Planning
Commission level.
MEETING
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OLD BUSINESS No items to present.
NEW BUSINESS
SAFETY Mr. Vickerman provided the Commission with safety training.
TRAINING FOR
PLANNING
COMMISSION
PUBLIC HEARING Mr. Vickerman stated the applicant is requesting a planned unit
development (PUD) concept stage plan amendment, development
COTTAGES AT stage plan, and final plat to construct eighteen townhomes (with an
SILVERCREST age restriction of 55+) as the final phase of SilverCrest on Main.
The applicant is proposing to redevelop much of the existing
SILVERCREST parking lot on the west side of their facility as well as the vacant
PROPERTIES portion of land into the 18 townhomes. Residents of the
8200 MAIN townhomes would have full access to the SilverCrest on Main
facilities. The townhomes are proposed to be one-story, with two
STREET NORTH,
and three units each. There would be 16 two-bedroom units and 2
OUTLOT A one-bedroom units. The units are between 1,041 square feet and
PUD CONCEPT 1,437 square feet in size. The units are shown at the closest, 17.1
STAGE PLAN feet from the property line adjacent to Applewood Pointe. No unit
would come closer than 40 feet to the Applewood Pointe building.
AMENDMENT, Staff discussed the plans in further detail and made the following
DEVELOPMENT recommendation.
STAGE PLAN, AND
FINAL PLAT FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION:
AN 18 UNIT
Motion to recommend that the City Council direct the City
INDEPENDENT Attorney to draft a resolution and a Planned Unit Development
SENIOR LIVING agreement approving the Cottages at SilverCrest PUD concept
RENTAL stage plan amendment, development stage plan, and final plat
TOWNHOME subject to:
DEVELOPMENT
1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the city any
remaining applicable comments contained in the
memorandums from:
a. The Community & Economic Development
Department dated March 7, 2023
b. The Engineering Department dated March 13, 2023
c. The Fire Department dated February 9, 2023
d. The Parks & Recreation Department, March 9, 2023
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The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation to the
Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent board action.
Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each month.
Discussion
Commissioner Picket asked if the lighting and shingles would be
addressed through covenants. Mr. Vickerman explained this could
be addressed in a condition for approval if the Commission wanted
to address this.
Commissioner Ostaffe questioned what the issue was regarding the
shingles. Mr. Vickerman reported the City has not typically set or
determined what type of single is used on housing units. He
recommended the residents speak to their concerns regarding this
matter.
Commissioner Lenthe inquired what would happen if the intake
drainage structures were plugged. He questioned if this would
cause water to overflow onto Applewood Pointe. Mr. Vickerman
reported the are emergency overflow area to bring the water to the
street.
Commissioner Lenthe asked if these units would be rented. Mr.
Vickerman noted these would be rental units.
Commissioner Lenthe supported the rear of the buildings have
enhanced building materials. He was of the opinion this was a
really tight building with a large number of units in a small area.
He believed there was a conflict between the landscaping that was
proposed and the internal storm sewer system. He stated he was
pleased the development would be maintained by an HOA for snow
removal purposes given the fact the units were so close together.
Commissioner Ostaffe reported the Donnay Development was
similar to this development. He questioned if there was any
discussion with the developer about making the rear elevations
better looking. Mr. Vickerman stated he has not had this
discussion with the applicant.
Chair Lamothe inquired if the exterior of the buildings would be
fully maintained by SilverCrest. Mr. Vickerman stated it was his
understanding that everything on the outside of the units would be
HOA maintained.
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Commissioner Ayika requested further information regarding the
building setback from Applewood Pointe. Mr. Vickerman
discussed the proposed setback from Applewood Pointe. He noted
the setback would drop under 20 feet in several places.
Commissioner Ostaffe asked if the parking onsite was adequate.
Mr. Vickerman reported staff had reviewed the proposed parking
with engineering and staff believed the proposed parking was
adequate.
The applicant was at the meeting to answer questions.
Sarah Kern, Caswell Architects, reviewed the plans for the water
runoff and noted a berm would be created at the property line. She
reported the landscaping plans will be revised to cover the pipe.
She explained the rear of the units would have a great deal of
landscaping. She noted she would be open to considering stone on
the rear of the units. She discussed how the snow removal would
be addressed by the HOA. She indicated she would be open to
considering a different color for the shingles.
Chair Lamothe opened the public hearing at 7:23 p.m.
The public was asked by Chair Lamothe if they had any comments
to make regarding this application.
Richard Martins, Board President for Applewood Pointe, provided
the Commission with historical information on the Applewood
Pointe building. He noted he met with the City to discuss this
project. He reported his members provided feedback and were
concerned with the rear elevations. He stated he was satisfied with
the proposed drainage. He indicated he was concerned with access,
because of the tight space between the two properties. He
understood the drainage and utility easement could not be used,
but he requested this development be approved, subject to allowing
Applewood Pointe occasional access. In addition, he requested
architectural shingles be placed on the buildings. He requested that
there be no rear lighting, accept for patio lighting. He discussed
how unique this site was because 44 Applewood Pointe units
would be facing the rear of these units. He supported the back
walls being further addressed, along with additional landscaping.
Commissioner Ayika asked how many of these concerns were
discussed with the developer and were not addressed. Mr. Martins
stated the developer responded to several of the matters. However,
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the finish of the rear wall and the need for architectural style
shingles was not addressed.
Commissioner Piket questioned if there was a price difference
between the Applewood Pointe units depending on the location of
the units. Mr. Martins stated there was no price differential for this
building.
Commissioner Lenthe commented on the previous plans for this
property which was for a two-story apartment complex with
parking. He questioned if Mr. Martins was in favor of one option
over the other. Mr. Martins reported he appreciated the benefit of
reducing the density. He commented further on the pros and cons
of both proposals, but noted in the end he supported the reduced
density. He indicated his main concern was the lack of appeal on
the rear elevations.
Commissioner Ayika questioned if the access between the
buildings had to be negotiated between the two private parties. Mr.
Vickerman reported this was the case. Mr. Martins stated he was
willing to work on this with SilverCrest and he was hoping the
developer would have a good faith effort on a private easement
agreement.
Chair Lamothe asked if this could be made a condition for
approval. City Attorney Landsman explained this could be made a
condition for approval, that there has to be a private agreement
worked out between the two parties.
Commissioner Ostaffe inquired if security light with motion
detectors would be allowed on the rear of the units. Mr. Martins
stated he would prefer that the rear patios not have security lights.
Commissioner Ostaffe asked if Applewood Pointe allowed for
holiday lighting. Mr. Martins indicated policy was created and
lighting would be allowed around the holidays.
Sharon Plimeling, 8250 Kirkwood Lane North – Unit 412, stated
her unit would face SilverCrest. She commented on the greenspace
within the proposed development. She explained her development
has been accommodating with its exterior lighting with the
adjacent townhome development. She indicated she appreciated
the privacy she has at Applewood Pointe. She discussed how
SilverCreek took away her privacy and views of nature when they
built within 100 feet of her units. She noted she lost her sunset and
view of the trees. She indicated she appreciates nature and enjoys
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seeing the red maples that line Bridges Park from her window. She
expressed concern with the fact the trees between Applewood
Pointe and the townhomes were not thriving. She asked that the
new small houses be placed in a manner that allows for trees to be
planted in between the two properties in order to improve privacy.
Motion by Commissioner Ostaffe, seconded by Commissioner
Klein, to close the public hearing at 7:51 p.m. Upon call of the
motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no nays.
Motion carried.
Commissioner Ayika requested the applicant come forward to
address several questions he has regarding the singles and
easement access. He asked if the developer would be able to install
architectural style shingles. Mr. Kern reported she would look into
this.
Commissioner Ayika questioned if the developer could support a
private access to the easement area. Mr. Kern stated she would be
happy to work something out.
Commissioner Ayika inquired if the development would be
separately platted or would the development remain one lot. Ms.
Kern explained the townhomes would remain one lot.
Commissioner Lenthe expressed concern with the fact there were
several issues that have yet to be resolved with the developer. He
recommended this project be tabled to May 30. He wanted to see
the issues regarding the rear elevations, shingles, landscaping and
private access easement worked out before this item were
considered for approval.
Chair Lamothe stated he had the same concerns and noted he
would support tabling action on this item. He indicated there were
pros and cons with this request, and he looked forward to the
developer having more time to respond to the concerns that were
raised at this meeting.
Commissioner Piket explained he did not believe it would be right
for the Planning Commission to table action on this item. He
reported the applicant has presented all necessary items and noted
the item could be approved with conditions. He indicated he would
like to understand how the applicant felt about this item being
tabled.
Commissioner Ostaffe stated there were concerns with the fact the
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residents in Applewood Pointe would be looking at housing units
with grass. He was of the opinion this would be better than
looking at a parking lot. He reported the City has never required
architectural shingles or stone on the back of units before. He
questioned if the Commission should or could make these requests.
Chair Lamothe supported the aesthetics being addressed given
what was previously approved in 2019.
Commissioner Ayika stated he was agreeing with both sides of the
Planning Commission. He reported it was not typical for buildings
to be back to front. He noted the building that was approved in
2019 was fully brick and would match the other campus buildings.
He was of the opinion the rear elevation of the units had to be
enhanced. He recommended the applicant be asked if they would
support the item being tabled to May 30.
Commissioner Picket asked if the rear elevation for all of the units
had be addressed, or just the ones that abutted Applewood Pointe.
Chair Lamothe supported the four units that back up to Applewood
Pointe being enhanced.
Commissioner Tomlinson questioned if some of the concerns
regarding the landscaping could be addressed.
Chair Lamothe explained the Commission could make comments
on the landscaping plan.
Jack Collins, SilverCrest Properties, thanked the Commission for
their time and comments. He explained he has worked well with
the City of Maple Grove since 2013 on this development. He
stated he wanted this relationship to continue. He reported he
would support tabling action on this item in order to allow him to
work through the issues that have been raised with the City and
Applewood Pointe.
Commissioner Ayika thanked Mr. Collins for being willing to
work out the remaining issues prior to May 30.
Motion by Commissioner Lenthe, seconded by Chair Lamothe,
to table action on the Cottages at SilverCrest development to
May 30, 2023. Upon call of the motion by Chair Lamothe,
there were seven ayes and no nays. Motion carried.
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DISCUSSION There were no discussion items.
ITEMS
ADJOURNMENT Motion by Chair Lamothe, seconded by Commissioner Lenthe,
to adjourn the Planning Commission meeting. Upon call of
the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no
nays. Motion carried.
Chair Lamothe adjourned the meeting at 8:11 p.m. to the next
regularly scheduled meeting of the Planning Commission
scheduled for May 30, 2023.
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