Planning Commission
Regular MeetingMaple Grove, MN · September 9, 2024
Minutes
Maple Grove Planning Commission
meeting minutes
September 9, 2024
Call to order A meeting of the Maple Grove Planning Commission was held at
7:00 p.m. on September 9, 2024 at the Maple Grove City Hall,
Hennepin County, Minnesota. Chair Lamothe called the meeting
to order at 7:00 p.m.
Pledge of Allegiance
Roll call Planning Commission members present were Chair Craig
Lamothe, Chris Ayika, Lorie Klein, Chuck Lenthe, Michael Ostaffe,
Joe Piket and Stephanie Tomlinson. Present also were Peter
Vickerman, Planning Manager; and Scott Landsman, City
Attorney.
Items to be removed None.
from the agenda
Consent items The following Consent Items were presented for the
Commission’s approval:
A. Regular Meeting – July 29, 2024
B. 9201 and 9211 Forestview Lane North Short Plat – TABLED
C. 7102 Trenton Lane North Variance – TABLED
D. Elm Creek Vista Planned Unit Development Concept Stage
Plan, Development Stage Plan, Rezoning, and Preliminary Plat
– TABLED
E. Zoning Ordinance Text Amendment – Two Stall Garage
Requirements - TABLED
Motion by Commissioner Ayika, seconded by Commissioner
Klein, to approve the Consent Items as presented. Upon call of
the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no
nays. Motion carried.
Consideration of items None.
pulled from consent
agenda
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Update on city council Mr. Vickerman reviewed with the Commission what items the City
meeting Council approved that was given direction at the Planning
Commission level.
OLD BUSINESS No items to present.
NEW BUSINESS
Public hearing Mr. Vickerman stated the applicant is proposing a freeway
frontage development stage plan in order to replace the existing
Minnesota Rural Electric
building, garage and parking area on site with a new two-story,
Association freeway
13,454 square foot building and parking lot. The site constrained
frontage development
by overhead power lines from the adjacent substation and is
stage plan
somewhat hidden from view due to grades and vegetation along
the on-ramp from Hemlock Lane to I-94/694. The proposed
building sits on the northern portion of the site (the only
buildable area due to the power line easements), with the
parking lot on the south and east sides of the site. The proposal
meets all setback and parking requirements (57 stalls are
provided whereas 44 are required by code). Architecturally the
south and east sides are showing a combination of windows, EIFS,
decorative metal, and Nichiha fiber cement panels. The north and
west sides are proposed to be all EIFS of similar colors as the
south and east sides. Staff discussed the plans in further detail
and made the following recommendation.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION:
Motion to recommend that the City Council direct the City
Attorney to draft a resolution and a planned unit development
agreement approving the Minnesota Rural Electric Association
freeway frontage development stage plan subject to:
1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the city any
remaining applicable comments contained in the
memorandums from:
a. The Community and Economic Development
Department dated September 4, 2024
b. The Engineering Department dated August 16, 2024
c. The Parks & Recreation Department dated August 16,
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The applicant shall acknowledge that park dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation to
the Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent board
action. Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each
month.
The applicant was at the meeting to answer questions. There
were no questions for the applicant.
Motion by Commissioner Ayika, seconded by Commissioner
Lenthe, to recommend that the City Council direct the City
Attorney to draft a resolution and a planned unit development
agreement approving the Minnesota Rural Electric Association
freeway frontage development stage plan subject to:
1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the city
any remaining applicable comments contained in the
memorandums from:
a. The Community and Economic Development
Department dated September 4, 2024
b. The Engineering Department dated August 16, 2024
c. The Parks & Recreation Department dated August
16, 2024
The applicant shall acknowledge that park dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation to
the Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent board
action. Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each
month.
Commissioners Lenthe indicated he was not impressed with the
architecture on this building. He was of the opinion the exterior of
the building was not all that inspiring. He asked what EIFS was.
Mr. Vickerman reported this was a concrete, smooth face finish.
He explained EIFS was a pretty common finish in this part of the
City.
Commissioner Tomlinson stated she had the same concerns
regarding the architecture for this building. She indicated this
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building has no character at all.
Commissioner Ostaffe believed the proposed building was an
upgrade to what was there currently. He appreciated that this
company was looking to remain in the community. He indicated
he was not an architect and noted this building would be adjacent
to the freeway and transformer farm.
Chair Lamothe discussed what was being done on the north side
of the freeway noting there was appealing architecture. He
questioned if the top of this building would be visible from the
freeway. Mr. Vickerman stated he had conversations with the
applicant, noting additional windows on the north side were
discussed. He anticipated it would be difficult to see the building
from the north side of the freeway but may be visible from the
south side.
Chair Lamothe questioned how staff compares this building to the
buildings that have been approved on the north side of the
freeway. He commented on how appealing the Keller Williams
building was from the freeway. He asked how the proposed
building compares in terms of quality of building materials. Mr.
Vickerman stated the building materials were similar, but the
Keller Williams building may have more brick. He indicated some
of the newer buildings have tip up EIFS panels, while the Boston
Scientific building has metal. He commented there was a range of
building materials that have been used along the corridor and
reiterated that this building was not as visible from the freeway.
Commissioner Piket stated this building was very similar to the
early learning center that was constructed on Wedgewood and
the Planning Commission supported that building.
Commissioner Ostaffe reported everything that has been built to
the east of Lowe’s was constructed out of concrete tip up panels.
He indicated the proposed building would be more of the same.
He stated the childcare center was constructed in a similar
manner and the Commission fully supported that project in an
industrial setting.
Chair Lamothe asked if the applicant wanted to address the
Planning Commission.
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Melissa Sagovich, Director of Finance at MREA, introduced herself
to the Commission. She explained MREA has been housed in
Maple Grove since the late 1980’s. She reported her organization
was a non-profit that was 100% member owned. She indicated
her staff loves working in Maple Grove.
Jennifer Kaden, Kaden Architecture, introduced herself to the
Commission and discussed how MREA, as a non-profit, was
looking to construct a building that reflected its rural clients. She
reviewed the exterior renderings in further detail and thanked the
group for the Commission for their consideration.
Commissioner Lenthe explained the residents driving on 73rd
Avenue would see this building while those driving on I-94 would
not. He encouraged the developer to place awnings on the
windows or to find some other way to breakup and enhance the
elevations. Ms. Kaden reported there was a canopy over the front
entrance that sticks out 10 to 12 feet.
Commissioner Ostaffe questioned how many employees MREA
had. Ms. Sagovich explained MREA currently has 15 employees.
Commissioner Ayika inquired if MREA would be the sole occupant
of this building. Ms. Sagovich reported this was the case.
Upon call of the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven
ayes and no nays. Motion carried.
Public hearing Mr. Vickerman stated the applicant is requesting a planned unit
development concept stage plan amendment, development stage
Norheim Maple Grove
plan and preliminary plat approval for 53 rental townhomes
planned unit
instead of the conceptual 200-unit apartment building in the
development concept
Nörsq Maple Grove development. The applicant received PUD
stage plan amendment,
approval in October of 2023 for 155 rental townhomes which are
development stage plan,
currently under construction. In addition, a site in the northwest
and preliminary plat
corner was approved for 200 apartments and a site in the
southwest corner was approved for a retail building. The
applicant has stated in their narrative that providing the required
parking for the apartment building on the site was proving to be
economically unviable and so they are proposing to change this
portion of the project to 53 additional rental townhomes. The
conceptual retail building is not proposing to change. We note
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that, per the applicant, the amenities proposed (clubhouse, pool,
fitness center, playground, etc.) were oversized to account for
200 units at the apartment site so there will ample private
amenities for the additional 53 units. We also note as part of this
proposal, the proposed dog park is shifting locations. Staff has no
major issues with the proposed change as it is fewer units overall
and essentially extends the original plan into the area in question.
Additional guest parking is provided, and the overall traffic
impacts are now lower. The overall density is within the range set
in the mixed-use development land use guiding. Staff discussed
the plans in further detail and made the following
recommendation.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION:
Motion to recommend that the City Council direct the City
Attorney to draft a resolution and a planned unit development
agreement approving the Norheim Maple Grove planned unit
development concept stage plan amendment, development stage
plan, and preliminary plat subject to:
1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the city any
remaining applicable comments contained in the
memorandums from:
a. The Community & Economic Development Department
dated August 15, 2024
b. The Engineering Department dated August 16, 2024
c. The Building Department dated August 8, 2024
d. The Parks & Recreation Department dated September
4, 2024
The applicant shall acknowledge that park dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation to
the Parks and Recreation Board and their subsequent board
action. Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each
month.
Discussion
Commissioner Piket requested further information regarding the
parking challenges. Mr. Vickerman stated with the 200 unit
apartment building, one of the requirements was for the
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developer to provide two parking spaces per unit. He indicated the
developer was finding it would be difficult to make this work on
the smaller site. For this reason, the developer was proposing to
more townhomes.
Chair Lamothe stated the apartment building parking standards
would have required the developer to create a multi-level
underground parking structure, which would have been quite
expensive. Mr. Vickerman explained this was often what the City
has seen with smaller sites that have apartment buildings.
Commissioner Piket inquired if staff could review the old concept
plan in order to provide further information on what had changed.
Mr. Vickerman reviewed the previous concept plan in further
detail with the Commission and noted the changes within the new
plans for the site.
Commissioner Ostaffe expressed concern with the new proposal
noting there was very little guest parking. Mr. Vickerman
reviewed the location and number of guest parking spaces that
were proposed, noting nine guest parking spaces would be
provided.
Commissioner Ostaffe indicated there were concerns with the lack
of guest parking with the previous plan for this property and the
developer now had even fewer guest parking spaces per unit
within the new development.
Chair Lamothe questioned how much guest parking was included
within the apartment complex. Mr. Vickerman stated the
developer would have had to provide two parking spaces per unit,
which would have been used by both tenants and guests. He
explained the City did not have guest parking requirements within
City Code.
Commissioner Ostaffe recalled there were only 23 guest surface
parking stalls that would have been provided, which was very few
for an apartment complex with 200 units. He indicated he still had
parking concerns for this development given the fact this was a
high density neighborhood. He did not believe the nine guest
parking stalls would meet the needs of the 53 housing units. Mr.
Vickerman commented there would be parking spaces in front of
the garages for each unit.
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Chair Lamothe questioned if this property would be managed by
the developer. Mr. Vickerman stated that was his understanding.
Chair Lamothe reported if this was the case, the management
team would have the ability to govern the space in front of the
garage for these rental units. He stated he agreed with
Commissioner Ostaffe that guest parking was a concern, and he
wanted to see garages being used as garages and not as storage
units. Mr. Vickerman stated he would allow the applicant to speak
to this.
Commissioner Tomlinson questioned where the snow would be
stored within this development. She feared the visitor parking
would be overrun with snow in the winter months. Mr. Vickerman
reviewed the snow storage plan that was provided by the
applicant. He reiterated that if there was not enough space,
developers typically haul the snow off site.
Commissioner Ostaffe asked what control the City had over snow
storage and when it had to be removed from the site. Mr.
Vickerman stated the expectation would be that no guest parking
stalls were used for snow storage. He indicated if there were
issues or complaints, the City would have to visit the site to ensure
lanes were clear for emergency access.
Commissioner Ostaffe explained many townhome associations are
run by HOA’s. However, he noted this townhome association
would be run by a management organization that would be
responsible for ensuring the snow was properly cleared.
Commissioner Tomlinson indicated there has been a lot of talk in
the community about housing in the middle. She asked what the
price point would be for these townhome units. She stated she did
not want the price point to be too high for Maple Grove residents.
Mr. Vickerman explained he would let the applicant speak to this.
Commissioner Piket expressed concern with how the shift away
from the apartments to townhomes would create higher rental
rates. He commented on how difficult it was to get workers in the
community given how expensive housing was in Maple Grove. He
discussed how the previously proposed apartments would be
cheaper than townhomes. He was of the opinion the City needed
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more apartments in the community.
Commissioner Ostaffe stated he had concerns with the fact 150
families would now not have the opportunity to put down roots in
Maple Grove because this development has moved away from the
original plan of 200 apartments and has shifted to 53 townhomes.
He indicated the City was not building affordable townhomes,
which meant it would be increasingly difficult for young families to
move into the community.
Commissioner Lenthe indicated he was concerned about this
development from the beginning because there was so little
greenspace. He reported when the apartment complex was
proposed, there would have been a little bit of greenspace,
however with the townhomes, this greenspace has been
eliminated. He stated he would not be supporting this change, and
he asked the developer to reconsider his plans for this site. He
explained he would like to see a smaller apartment building on
this site.
Commissioner Ostaffe agreed with Commission Lenthe’s concerns
regarding greenspace. He commented on how there was very little
room for families to be outside within the proposed townhome
development.
The applicant was at the meeting to answer questions.
Jeff Cook, Norsq Companies, introduced himself to the
Commission. He explained each unit would have four parking
stalls available, which meant the development had a total of 228
parking stalls. He reviewed the parking that was available within
the Norsq project and indicated this would be the most
overparked development in the City of Maple Grove. He stated he
understood the concerns of the Commission when it comes to
parking and reported the garages would be 24 feet deep in order
to accommodate larger vehicles along with garbage containers. In
addition, he noted the driveways would be 22 to 25 feet deep. He
indicated the concept before the Commission was for 53 units
versus 200 units, which would require less parking and traffic
counts. He commented on the snow removal plan for the
development and noted the management company would
oversee snow removal in a prompt fashion. He reviewed the
proposed rental rates noting the two bedrooms will rent for
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$2,685 and the three bedroom units will rent for $3,130. He
discussed the proposed density for this property and noted he
could pack more units onto this site, but this would bring more
parking and traffic concerns. He indicated the proposed dog park
was 30% larger within this plan and noted this development
would also have a tot lot, pickleball court along with trails to
access local City parks. He commented further on how a diverse
housing stock would meet the needs of the community. He stated
the proposed rental townhomes would be geared towards
families and active adults.
Commissioner Picket asked if the developer looked at reducing
the number of apartment units in order to meet the City’s parking
requirements. Mr. Cook stated he had considered this, but noted
inflation and interest rates were making the costs for a pre-cast
parking structure not economically viable.
Chair Lamothe opened the public hearing at 7:59 p.m.
The public was asked by Chair Lamothe if they had any comments
to make regarding this application.
No one wished to address the Commission.
Motion by Chair Lamothe, seconded by Commissioner Picket, to
close the public hearing at 7:59 p.m. Upon call of the motion by
Chair Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no nays. Motion
carried.
Motion by Commissioner Picket, seconded by Commissioner
Ayika, to recommend that the City Council direct the City
Attorney to draft a resolution and a planned unit development
agreement approving the Norheim Maple Grove planned unit
development concept stage plan amendment, development
stage plan, and preliminary plat subject to:
1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the city
any remaining applicable comments contained in the
memorandums from:
a. The Community & Economic Development
Department dated August 15, 2024
b. The Engineering Department dated August 16, 2024
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c. The Building Department dated August 8, 2024
d. The Parks & Recreation Department dated September
4, 2024
The applicant shall acknowledge that park dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation to
the Parks and Recreation Board and their subsequent board
action. Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each
month.
Chair Lamothe requested the applicant speak to how the rental
agreements speak to the use of the garage. Mr. Cook explained
the rental agreements to not speak specifically to the use of the
garage.
Commissioner Piket inquired if the rental agreement requires
vehicles to be located in garages and not permanently stored on
driveways. Mr. Cook stated there was no language that spoke to
this specifically.
Commissioner Tomlinson asked if the rental agreement spoke to
the use of portable storage units being stored on driveways. Mr.
Cook indicated the general management agreement had
specificities to address this concern.
Commissioner Ostaffe questioned if the management team
would be responsible for removing snow from driveways. Mr.
Cook reported this was the case.
Commissioner Ostaffe anticipated it would be difficult to remove
snow from the three bedroom units if there were roommate
situations and multiple cars were located on the driveways. Mr.
Cook explained renters would be notified by text when snow
would be removed from the driveways after a major snow event.
Chair Lamothe indicated he did not support having the rental
agreements not speak to the use of garages specifically for
parking. He discussed how the three bedroom units may have
three vehicles which would become problematic if the garages
were not used for parking, especially in the winter months.
Upon call of the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were three
ayes and four nays (Commissioners Tomlinson, Lenthe, Ostaffe
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and Chair Lamothe opposed). Motion failed.
Motion by Chair Lamothe, seconded by Commissioner Lenthe, to
recommend the City Council deny a planned unit development
agreement approving the Norheim Maple Grove planned unit
development concept stage plan amendment, development
stage plan, and preliminary plat based on the concerns regarding
parking and snow storage.
Commissioner Ayika stated the Commission has not tried to
require parking in garages instead of on driveways in other
townhome developments.
Commissioner Piket indicated the City may not regulate vehicle
parking, but the HOA’s may address this matter.
Commissioner Ayika explained the applicant has met the City’s
requirements and he supported the project moving forward.
Upon call of the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were four ayes
and three nays (Commissioner Klein, Ayika and Piket opposed).
Motion carried.
Discussion items There were no discussion items.
Adjournment Motion by Chair Lamothe, seconded by Commissioner Ayika, to
adjourn the Planning Commission meeting. Upon call of the
motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no nays.
Motion carried.
Chair Lamothe adjourned the meeting at 8:12 p.m. to the next
regularly scheduled meeting of the Planning Commission
scheduled for October 14, 2024.
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